Ournext question, I've decided to put a number of questions together, because they're genericallydealing with the same thing. So we have sister Rashida from Birmingham, asks that she works in thehealthcare industry, but in her hospital, it is mandatory to wear scrubs, which at times might betoo tight. And also it is the policy of their hospital that the forearms be exposed so that thegloves can come to the forearms. So she's saying what can she do in this regard? Is it permissible?I want to add some more questions your brother Moon writes that when the Quran says to lower thegaze, what level of prohibition? Is this of the opposite gender? Is it a complete blanket
unconditional prohibition? Or is it prohibited only with a desire because he writes, when one is inthe corporate setting, it is not possible to always lower the gaze. And in the course of normalinteractions, one looks and smiles and offers polite conversation. So does this verse apply to that?And brother Rosa asks about alcohol being present in corporate events and meetings and a number ofother questions. So all of these questions I want to give a generic response to working let's see,let's call it the fifth of the workplace, the flick of of corporate environments,
now I want to begin by by stating that we need to distinguish between that which Allah has forbiddenspecifically because of itself, what we say how normally that tea, and that which the Shetty hasforbidden because it leads to how long how long lady? So generally speaking, we all understand thatthere's one thing that is haram Lee, that T and there are many things that haram lady, so classicexample, Xena, that is haram Lydda T. But what leads to Xena, it is the lustful gaze, it isflirtation it is being alone with a woman. All of these are also how long? What is how long did thattea drinking alcohol. But what leads to that selling alcohol and transporting alcohol and, you know,
being in the presence where alcohol is consumed. And not all of them are the same level, by the way,I mean, just give you I'm giving you some random lists here. Obviously each of these is a differentcategory and sin but the point is that there are things that are forbidden in and of themselves. Andthen there are avenues that Allah azza wa jal wants to shut because when you open this door, youknow, you're just gonna go all the way until you get to this actual sin. And so we all know, forexample, that all fascia it starts with the lustful gaze and the lustful talk. So then obviously, weshould stop it from the very beginning, still, the means do not take the same rulings as the ends in
terms of sins. And therefore, and this is well known, especially when it comes to view yourtransactions and I've spoken about this in other lectures that which is forbidden indirectly thatwhich is forbidden not because of itself, but because it leads to how long it may become discouragedMakrooh or strongly disliked the depending on the circumstance. And so the sin will not be there,but the QA will remain. And so here, we get to this reality, this awkward reality. And I broughtthis up quite a few times. And I do I don't like to have to mention these types of things. But whatcan one do in this regard that the internet has made photoshopping just like a buffet, you can find
anything and it is very common to find many groups of scholars especially from lands far far awaylands that are themselves you know, going through their own issues but anyway, that's besides thepoint that you will find websites you know that answer q&a of Islam that pretty much make everythingblanket haram like literally there's hardly anything except that haram haram haram. And the fact ofthe matter is that many people love these fatawa and when I or others come along and try to digthrough and make some things macro and haram and whatnot, even though I quote other olema doesn'tmatter. There is a huge, you know, backlash and liberalization and you're a sellout and this and
that. And generally speaking, the people who are of this ilk, generally speaking their particulardemographics, and I'm sorry to say this, they're young males. That's generally the case. And theyare ultra strict in their ideal utopia.
But that's not the way the world works. And these fatawa, they might be popular in terms of YouTubelinks or viewers. But they are simply ignored when it comes to actual Muslims living in and workingin the workplace here in the corporate side of things. And they have no relevance to the lived livesof people who are working in
the workplace in all western lands, dare I say, even in eastern lands, but let's not go over there.So the point is that when fatawa simply become non viable, and when a fatwa becomes utterlymeaningless for all practical purposes, then firstly, those who love such fatawa should open theireyes and smell the coffee as the saying goes. And secondly, it becomes obligatory on those people ofknowledge or students of knowledge, like myself, to really then chime in and say, with utmostrespect to our room, and 3000 miles away, 5000 miles away, you know, we have to ask them to mindtheir own societies, and we have to speak to our peoples, how many people come to me in the
corporate office. And by the way, FYI, I have also dabbled, as I've said, multiple times in thecorporate world, and I have worked in the corporate world for a while. And also when I was inacademia, and I'm still in academia, you know, it's not as if academia is separate, we also have todo you know, things that people in the masjid communities, or Chu who live separate, maybe not fullyunderstand or realize. So my point being that with humility and respect, I say that I am fairlyfamiliar with that type of environment and those who have never lived or worked it, it is mucheasier for them to be idealistic, and to give these very nice sounding fatawa that resonate amongst
college kids who have never worked and resonate amongst people who would like to see such a worldbut don't inhabit the real world. But it doesn't resonate with the people who are actually workingin the office, themselves. So I'm going to bring up a number of issues here that we should be awareof, first and foremost, that perhaps the most important is that our fuqaha have discussed somethingthat is called mammoth B Hill Belvoir, that, that which everybody in society is doing, even thoughthey should not do it, and that when an evil or when something that is macro becomes the norm, theshadow a ruling has to be adjusted in light of the norm for people who interact with that. And this
you know, training by people who haven't studied or trained, it has caused so much damage in thesocial media, and people are so confused. But the fact of the matter is that this is a real issue offic, a real issue of the scholars of Islam that they're well aware of, and that is, when an evilbecomes commonplace, you cannot expect to apply the exact same ruling, then when the evil was notcommonplace. And there are specialized treatises and books written there's you know, dissertationswritten about this issue of my mama to me or Mohamed El Belvoir. And no doubt, when our scholarsdiscuss these issues, they too need to fear Allah and not open up the floodgates. But still, let us
be realistic here. We're living in a society at a time and a place where the rules of hijab do notexist in the Western world, frankly, even in the Eastern world, they do not exist the rules have. Inthe Western world, alcohol is rampant everywhere, in every gathering almost in every businessmeeting or whatnot, people are drinking, if you wish to live in these lands. And by the way, it'snot as if going somewhere is going to solve all these problems, you're going to have another set ofproblems, there is no utopia anywhere in the world. If you wish to work in corporate lifestyles,you're going to be exposed to things that there is no running away from. And therefore, we need to
keep in mind a number of things first and foremost that which is how long in and of itself versusthat which is how long because it leads to how long Secondly, the issue of that which is when tissuethat which is commonly practiced doesn't take the same ruling as that which is not practiced. Andthirdly, the fact that somebody is forced to do something because of social pressure because ofawkwardness is not the same as somebody who willingly goes out of his way and embraces something.And the last point of the Gen generic rule, which is the most important rule, Allah says in theQuran for Temple Law, Mr. vitam fear Allah, as much as you can fear him as much as it's possible to
Under no circumstances should you cave under pressure because it's awkward unless somebody werethreatening to kill you obviously then you're forgiven. Otherwise that which is how normally that tohear right Xena is how long did that take drinking is how long did it under no circumstance shouldyou feel awkward and then fall into these things. On the other hand, that which you are pressuredsocially to do for some, you must love being in the environment where there's alcohol, it is not thesame sin nowhere near the sin as of course drinking alcohol. So to answer these questions, again,generically, our sisters asking about wearing scrubs and you know, the the forearms exposed and
whatnot. And again, the response is look at what can I say there, you being in the healthcaresystem, I understand they have the rules. And frankly, the rules are put for a reason I understandthat they want your hands to be constantly washed. So you cannot be wearing stuff here, you're goingto put the gloves on all the way there. The scrubs are there because they want to be moving about soyou try your best to wear the loosest scrubs that you can try your best maybe to get an exceptionfor yourself and by the way, talk to your bosses a lot of times the rules might be there but any ona one on case they might just let you wear a full you know sleep or whatnot if it's not allowed to
and they're making you under they say the rule is going to be applied then any What can I say youdon't live your lifestyle, you know, based upon that clothing and any when you're finishing work andgo back home then obviously go more and more modest. But at that point in time. Yeah. And what elsecan I say? I mean, if you're a law as much as you can, I'm not going to tell you to give up yourcareer because your forearms are exposed. I'm not going to tell your whole money is haram. I willsay that you should try within your job to try to find as much you know handle as you can. And ifit's not possible, then something like this does not take the same ruling as blatant haram. And by
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