Re: [Ripple] How is Ripple being accepted in the bitcoin community?

[Thomas Sherlock]

Hi, guys.

Although I've been interested in ripple for some time I've also been out of the loop for a good long while.

So I need some kind of primer to get up to speed.

How do I get an address such as Victor's below?

How do I establish a PGP trust path with anyone here?

What is being suggested here?  That we use OpenCoin's implementation of ripple to engage in commerce, despite OpenCoin's tight control of ripple?

You're welcome to tell me to RTFM.  You'll just have to point me to several manuals.

Cheers, 

Tom 

On Mar 13, 2013, at 9:16 PM, Victor Escudero Rubio wrote:

Hello guys, I'm a big enthusiast of ripple.

In fact, I'm trying to leverage the web of trust (lines of credit in Ripple) within the Spanish speaking community in bitcointalk: http://bit.ly/RippleBTC

IMHO, Although highly unlikely under the current implementation, ripple is called to shake up our current credit system the same way bitcoin is revolutionizing the payment industry.

Having a good currency like bitcoin is not enough, now we need to build a network to ease the access to the credit.

However, as an old user of Ripplepay, ripplexchange and raindroplet I have to say that the new Ripple.com implementation from OpenCoin will have a difficult time attracting users to their platform. First of all, they have to solve the distribution problem they are having with their newly minted coin (XRP) and release the code of their current ripple server implementation.

As a big fan of FLOSS (Free Libre and Open Source Software), I think it's an unacceptable practice to lock down the source code of the server, just to avoid competitors to make an alternative and better implementation.

I hope they change their minds and speed up the release of the code soon, very soon as I don't feel comfortable having to play by OpenCoin's rules. Most of the people I know from the open source community won't even give ripple a second chance because of the control that OpenCoin is exercising 

Anyway I'm open to start using ripple with small amounts of coins and fiat money. I will like to start growing my list of contacts, so I will add a small line of credit to any person that ask me for it if there is a clear PGP Trust path between us. Please feel free to add me to your Ripple contact lists, my address is rGUrehcNthxydn9RXg7NAFBAiCzr2gQKYQ

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[Seth de l'Isle]

Hi Thomas,

2013/3/13 Thomas Sherlock <t...@ramruva.com>:.

>
> How do I get an address such as Victor's below?

Go to ripple.com and create a wallet. There's a link to "creata a
wallet" right below the big blue button for "Open Wallet"

> How do I establish a PGP trust path with anyone here?

Once you have a wallet created, go to advanced; the open tab will be
"trust" you should see a green plus on the right. Should be straight
forward from there.

Thanks,
Seth

[Thomas Sherlock]

Thanks Seth.

I don't recognize the UI at ripple.com, so I HAVE been away for a while.

I've created a wallet.  Here's my public address:

rfmRPJdTekgKuStFBAeLijV5uBzdGMASU6

My wallet's not funded.  So I have no way of granting trust.

Since it's not clear how to claim free ripples from Bitcoin, I guess I'll just have to wait to figure out how to fund my wallet.

Btw, is there any convention for choosing a name to associate with the wallet?

Thanks,

Tom 

[Kurt Padilla]

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Seth,

I am pretty sure that's not what a PGP trust path is. The PGP/GnuPG web of trust is separate from Ripple. Look it up.

Kurt
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[Seth de l'Isle]

Hi Thomas,

I sent you some ripples to get started.

2013/3/13 Thomas Sherlock <t...@ramruva.com>:

[Thomas Sherlock]

Thanks!

[Melvin Carvalho]

On 14 March 2013 03:43, Thomas Sherlock <t...@ramruva.com> wrote:

Thanks Seth.

I don't recognize the UI at ripple.com, so I HAVE been away for a while.

I've created a wallet.  Here's my public address:

rfmRPJdTekgKuStFBAeLijV5uBzdGMASU6

sent you some too ... feel free to add me to your contacts for testing :)
 

[Thomas Sherlock]

Thanks, Melvin.

Not sure if name matters for the wallet.  I had selected Abel.

If this is considered an obstruction of transparency, I suppose I could always change it.

Though I don't know if have that permission.

Tom

[Thomas Sherlock]

Cool.  About six people sent me ripples.

I'm starting to feel like a kid getting ready to go to the candy shop and maybe buy a few comic books :)

[Thomas Sherlock]

So Seth and Melvin each sent me ripples.

However there are three notifications from each.  The transaction # is the same for each three respectively.

So it appears that this is a triplicate for each transaction, yet the total reflects not 2 but 6 transactions.

Tom

[Harald Weber]

Hi,

I have the same problem would somebody please also send a few ripples to me

so that I can start. ;-)

rNYxvuAhafAjPaXHhibEkYNBsnw8RwhXvE

Thanks in advance.

Harald

[Melvin Carvalho]

On 18 March 2013 11:33, Harald Weber <harald....@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I have the same problem would somebody please also send a few ripples to me

so that I can start. ;-)

rNYxvuAhafAjPaXHhibEkYNBsnw8RwhXvE

Sent you some to get started.  If you no longer need them, do feel free to return them :)
 

[Seth de l'Isle]

Hi Ramon,

I have sent you some XRP to get started and extended some trust.

Thanks,

  Seth

Le mercredi 17 avril 2013, Ramon Royo a écrit :

I am sorry guys, it is late here and I forgot to publish my address. If any of you can help me to fund my wallet so I can trust my bitstamp account I would greately appreciate it! Thanks. This is my address:

rHvF1GRf6qD2oYnstKu9TDcJiuWudaJLjV

El viernes, 5 de abril de 2013 04:15:05 UTC+2, David Schwartz escribió:

On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 6:16:38 PM UTC-7, Victor Escudero Rubio wrote:

However, as an old user of Ripplepay, ripplexchange and raindroplet I have to say that the new Ripple.com implementation from OpenCoin will have a difficult time attracting users to their platform. First of all, they have to solve the distribution problem they are having with their newly minted coin (XRP) and release the code of their current ripple server implementation.

We don't think the distribution problem will prevent people from adopting Ripple as a payment platform and that's where we see the growth for at least the next year or so. That said, we want a good distribution because we plan to use the distribution to encourage adoption of Ripple as a payment platform.
 

As a big fan of FLOSS (Free Libre and Open Source Software), I think it's an unacceptable practice to lock down the source code of the server, just to avoid competitors to make an alternative and better implementation.

That's not why we haven't released the source code of the server. Once the server is released, many validators will quickly not be under our control. Of course, that's the whole point. But that will mean that every change to the network's rules will have to obtain a consensus. We've sometimes made those kinds of changes several times a day. By intentional design, Ripple's rules are very hard to change once the network is distributed.
 

I hope they change their minds and speed up the release of the code soon, very soon as I don't feel comfortable having to play by OpenCoin's rules.

We agree that this is something holding back the adoption of Ripple and we plan to remedy that as soon as the advantages exceed the disadvantages.
 

Most of the people I know from the open source community won't even give ripple a second chance because of the control that OpenCoin is exercising 

Right, and OpenCoin wants broad adoption. We all agree it's in our interest to get it open sourced and distributed as soon as possible. That's a major landmark for us and nobody wants us to be there as quickly as possible more than we do. I can assure you, nobody on the team is trying to find ways to do things more slowly.

DS

[Dan Miller]

Seth has done quite the job getting people up and running on the new system!

[Art Mart]

Why are you lying ? You have 10 BTC in your account balance. What small amounts of coin are you talking about ???

Are you aware that people can see your account in a public way :

https://ripple.com/graph/#rGUrehcNthxydn9RXg7NAFBAiCzr2gQKYQ

In the last 2 month, I have seen many people like you. First you pretend to be a beginner, than you ask for free XRP and give your ripple address in everywhere, while honest people like me can not get XRP at all.

Check this guys address, before you send XRP to him !!!

On Thursday, March 14, 2013 2:16:38 AM UTC+1, Victor Escudero Rubio wrote:

Hello guys, I'm a big enthusiast of ripple.

In fact, I'm trying to leverage the web of trust (lines of credit in Ripple) within the Spanish speaking community in bitcointalk: http://bit.ly/RippleBTC

IMHO, Although highly unlikely under the current implementation, ripple is called to shake up our current credit system the same way bitcoin is revolutionizing the payment industry.

Having a good currency like bitcoin is not enough, now we need to build a network to ease the access to the credit.

However, as an old user of Ripplepay, ripplexchange and raindroplet I have to say that the new Ripple.com implementation from OpenCoin will have a difficult time attracting users to their platform. First of all, they have to solve the distribution problem they are having with their newly minted coin (XRP) and release the code of their current ripple server implementation.

As a big fan of FLOSS (Free Libre and Open Source Software), I think it's an unacceptable practice to lock down the source code of the server, just to avoid competitors to make an alternative and better implementation.

[Art Mart]

You have got XRP in your account and people still send you some.

https://ripple.com/graph/#rGUrehcNthxydn9RXg7NAFBAiCzr2gQKYQ

I begged for 2 month in vain to get XRP and free-riders like this get it with one sentence !

Tell me how it is not a scam, where insiders send free XRP to each-other and pretend to be generous, before selling to the rest of us ???

[Jaro Larnos]

Don't feed the troll guys, I prefer not have my mobile clogged with trollspam.

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[Everbro Can]

can someone send me some coins to get started? my ripple rPwkqfHRbmnSwEX1WXwtYjEHac2XsvFfW1  thanks

[William Martin]

Hello Everyone,

I am new to the Ripple community and after doing some research I think this could be a fantastic new way of exchanging currencies and crypt o-currencies. I really found no good way to fund my account. why cant you just transfer money into it initially? I live in Canada and finding it difficult to get started. Could anyone send me the minimum amount to get started? it would be much appreciated. my address is...

 rawgai4xFXkVS7xHNG6pMaaw2tdi2xv3Ri

[Dan Miller]

On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 2:55 PM, William Martin <william.go...@gmail.com> wrote:

I live in Canada and finding it difficult to get started.

There is an excellent ripple gateway in Canada that will help you get started, contact the good folks at Ripple Union: http://rippleunion.com/

[William Martin]

Hi dan, thanks for the help. I actually used ripple union to fund my account via gift cards but at this time they don't offer any other way to use them as a gateway to the ripple system to move in and out money. ( that I'm aware of ) they said they were working on this option. Also I looked Into we exchange as they deal in canadian currency but I have read that they are very unreliable right now and are having problems. Not a chance I want to take with transferring money. If you have any other ideas please share, it would be much appreciated. Thanks

Will

[Jeffrey Cliff]

What are you trying to do exactly and where in canada abouts are you?

Le 2013-12-15 10:56, "William Martin" <william.go...@gmail.com> a écrit :

Hi dan, thanks for the help. I actually used ripple union to fund my account via gift cards but at this time they don't offer any other way to use them as a gateway to the ripple system to move in and out money. ( that I'm aware of ) they said they were working on this option. Also I looked Into we exchange as they deal in canadian currency but I have read that they are very unreliable right now and are having problems. Not a chance I want to take with transferring money. If you have any other ideas please share, it would be much appreciated. Thanks

Will

[Dmitri Ivanov]

Help me understand why you people want to get some abstract unit that might have some weird "value" (as debt?) in the future? Are you seriously hoping that these will rise in value? This ripple thing must be good to interface with the existing systems (for bitcoin or alt-coins) but I hardly sense an advantage to having a small number of them in the future. You'd have to like spend then when you want to transact between the bitcoin/crypto finance system and the old system of banks and state backed dollars. And in being that interface it is trying to make some money. That's kind of cold, for me personally, which is a whole other question. I am fine with it helping the transition from old currency system to cryptocurrencies, but I hope that it will not have to be used much in the future, as opposed to bitcoin. On the other hand governments which oppose bitcoin may have banks which deal only with ripple/USD, when bitcoin can still come into the system from overseas, etc. Maybe it is necessary to transition to bitcoin over a longer span of time. Seems possible. 

Dude that was a total 180 right there from start to finish. I'm so high!! Cheers, namaste.

[Jeffrey Cliff]

Protip: whenever you refer to a group as 'you people' and ask why they
do something, and you can't reduce it down to a single reason, just
know that people are most likely motivated by different things. Some
people are going to have what seems to you as good justifiable
reasons, others are going to be in it for the lulz. Some are going to
be in it to 'look good' to people they are attracted to.

There's a large segment of the human population that is underbanked,
unbanked and exploited by their local financial institutions.
Billions of people. We are part of the solution to that, that is
reason enough.

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[Mick Luijcx]

Just like you guys I've decided to create a Ripple wallet, however I can't get started as of I don't have any ripples.. Really eager though.. I guess this is my wallet: rJPW6KLKtKYe1H9hxS8qs2P7LeiEfeqVfY. Could somebody help me to get started?

Op donderdag 14 maart 2013 02:16:38 UTC+1 schreef Victor Escudero Rubio:

[andyatcrux]

Just got my first ripple an hour ago. If you have BTC that is all you need to get started: https://www.ripplewise.com/     An instantaneous funding took place even before the confirmations went through. Could not be easier or quicker.