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Redirects have become rampant in these past few months. Many of them are a result of major merges, such as Summon magic (Final Fantasy) into Final Fantasy magic and Compilation of Final Fantasy VII into Final Fantasy VII. These should be fixed and pinpointed (i.e. [[Final Fantasy magic#Summon magicsummon magic]]) where appropriate. Some of them may not be as obvious, and may require disambiguation. Sephiroth is frequently wiki'd in place of Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII) even though it links to a disambiguation page. Be sure to check all articles containing these redirects using the "What links here" option.
As I've already told Hibana, the Dragon Quest articles are in a sorry state. I'm pushing to organize a project to help establish guidelines within these articles, provide badly needed inertia for the editing of the articles, and create a home for discussion that isn't as crowded as the WikiProject Computer and video games. I believe that with well over 30 articles (and more that need to be created), a WikiProject is justified. Hibana mentioned at some point merging these two under one big Square Enix project, and I like the idea. For now, though, I'd encourage any and all of you to sign up at the temporary WikiProject Dragon Quest page and sign your name at list of proposed projects. With at least five members, I'll go ahead and create an actual project out of it; I'd appreciate signups, especially from you guys, since everyone at the FFWikiProject has proven themselves more than competent for editing articles. :) --Tristam 17:10, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
To continue with Hibana's four-square pattern, the obvious placements would be the "S" in the upper left square, the "E" in the bottom right, with the crystal and Slime randomly filling the other two. I have, however, done my own experimenting with a type of crest and the results haven't been very pretty. --Tristam 19:54, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Someone please help, all the work I have done on Link (Legend of Zelda) has been reverted and I don't want to break to 3 revert rule, so someone please stop them from reverting everything I did. Judgesurreal777 03:51, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand why a video game character takes precedence over a large number of other uses (listed at Yuna (disambiguation)). I propose moving the article to Yuna (Final Fantasy), per precedent for Pauline (Nintendo) and King Bowser. I would be bold do it myeslf, but I don't want to incur divine wrath (i.e. spoiler tags question), so I thought I'd ask you guys. Hbdragon88 08:23, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
As I haven't read a real good reason why not to move the page (besdies a concern over "what links here," a generalized statement about Yuna's popularity, and a sarcastic comment) , I think I'll be moving it...I'll leave AMIB To whack anybody who opposes with a cluestick. Hbdragon88 05:24, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I won't be able to this week or next, due to heavy exams and lab report loads, but the week after I plan to turn my attention back to this article, which I wrote earlier this year. My first plan will be to submit it for a peer review for purposes of getting new ideas, then expand the article, then get a formatting peer review, and finally, submit it to GA. Sir Crazyswordsman 05:48, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
To try to get a clear consensus, should this project be merged into WikiProject Square Enix? Or should it stay as a sub-project? Support is merge, oppose is, well, not merge. Discussion heavily encouraged.
Hello. The WikiProject Council is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:
and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory.The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 21:18, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Image:Black mage.svg, used extensively for the Final Fantasy WikiProject, is currently waiting to be deleted as soon as it is replaced/delinked. Although the license tag claims that is released under the GFDL, this claim has been made in error; to quote from commons:Commons:Derivative works:
As an infinitely high-resolution image, the SVG cannot ever qualify for "fair use"; please create a .PNG replacement (a direct rendering from the Wikmedia servers, eg. [4]) at a suitable resolution and replace all usages. You have 7 days before the SVG is deleted. Thanks, [lfəks] 02:00, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for taking the time to notice that only the stub template, out of all of the templates used in WP:FF, used that image. It's been fixed now. I beleive that FX21's userbox is the only thing still linking to it. --PresN 18:58, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Currently, the articles of two of the most controversial characters in FF history, Tifa Lockhart and Aerith Gainsborough (aside from that both need a OOU-perspective rehaul), contain original research and POV. While a brief glimpse of both articles give the illusion that proper citations automatically equals NPOV, on a more in-depth look, it's quite untrue. Most of the statements on the Love sections contain unpublished analysis only "supported" by official texts or statements that do not really offer a confirmed analysis of Square-Enix.
Editors often make the mistake of thinking that if A is published by a reliable source, and B is published by a reliable source, then A and B can be joined together in an article in order to advance position C. However, this would be an example of a new synthesis of published material serving to advance a position, and as such it would constitute original research.
The MotP novella analysis (while it's well-written and sounds reasonable; however, that is not important when regarding OR) in Aerith's article and the analysis of the Reunion files in Tifa's article are examples of using published material to advance a position. However, the last paragraph in the Kingdom Hearts II section of Tifa's article can stay, because Nomura specifically describes two different interpretations.
I also noticed that Love section in Cloud's article is completely gone, which I am glad of. I would really like to get rid the Love sections in both Aerith and Tifa's articles (as well as the whole sex symbol analysis in Tifa's article); however, I was hesistant on it because there has been some controversial edits going on, particularly in Tifa's article... >_<
I agree wholeheartedly. It's a stated FACT by Tetsuya Nomura, not a LT debate view. And last time I checked, Wikipedia was about stating the FACTS only. And come on, the Reunion Files is more proof then those stupid Novellas.
Why in the world would they delete it? Hell, a quote from Tetsuya Nomura stating that Tifa IS Cloud's lover/sweetheart is more important then a long, worthless article about Aeris' "Personality". I thought Wikipedia was strictly "facts only". Looks like I was wrong.
Hello. I would like to request for comment on an ongoing dispute on the Tifa Lockhart talk page. The dispute is on whether or not a certain reverted edit comprises OR, and on what information should be included under the "Love" section in the article.
As with all Final Fantasies, shouldn't the main characters as with the main villain have seperate articles. Can someone create seperate articles for characters like Vaan, Ashe, Basch, Penelo, Balthier, Fran and Vayne only if you feel they are needed. As the game has been released, more information regarding the game is accessible to us, making it easier for us to create these articles. Whaddya say? -- Visual planet 17:59, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
In my opinion, it doesn't look good. So could anyone explain to me why this photo was never changed? I mean it is not bad to make a newer logo, besides those two F Letters, and that hexagon (yeah, I know it's a crystal). Mohamed 11:30, 10 November 2006 (GMT)
Just a quick comment: a lot of article talk pages under our jurisdiction are being afflicted with a veritable ballooning of templates. A number (for example, Talk:Final Fantasy III), include the cvgproj (CVG WikiProject), SEproj (Square Enix WikiProject), and FinalFantasyProject (Final Fantasy WikiProject) templates. This strikes me as a really messy and confusing, since all three projects fall into a rough hierarchy anyway: anything that is part of the Final Fantasy WikiProject is also considered a part of the Square Enix WikiProject, and anything that is part of the Square Enix WikiProject is also considered a part of the computer and video games WikiProject. I would suggest that we modify the templates to reflect this relationship, so that each talk page would need to present only the template for the most specific project it is associated with. Something like this:
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