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Mr. J.

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May 13, 2010, 8:59:08 AM5/13/10
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1. Why doesn't Lao-tzu want to give the Tao a name? What are some
illustrations of the Tao?
2. Briefly describe in your own words the concept of wu wei.
3. If a bird's nest fell out of a tree, would a Taoist put it back or
ignore it? Explain your answer.
4. How would a Taoist view hunting regulations in today's society?
5. How do Confucianism and Taoism differ? Provide some advantages
and disadvantages of each outlook.
6. How might Taoism have affected ordinary people in China? Can it be
seen as an anti-establishment philosophy?

Kim Sass

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May 13, 2010, 5:26:30 PM5/13/10
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1. Lao-tzu didn't want to give the Tao a specific name because it is
present in everything and it has no form, so it cannot be named or
defined. Tao is thought to be eternal and harmony with the entire
universe, and by following the principles of wu wei, one could merge
with the Tao. Wu wei is like water. Water has no form but it conforms
many different shapes. Taoists should conform to the way of nature,
and remain unspoiled by society.

2. Wu wei is a princple that says that one must not struggle against
the forces of nature, instead they should follow them. By doing this,
you can be one with nature and not have to follow society's rules.

3. I feel this question is a generalization, and unfair to ask,
because this is questioning how much this Taoist believes in what he/
she is practicing. In theory, if he/she believed in all the ideals of
the Tao, he/she would leave the nest on the ground because the Tao
says that nature runs its own course, and we can't interrupt this
course. Nature put the nest on the ground, and that is how it must
remain. But, on the other hand, a Taoist could also believe that their
compassion towards the bird is also part of the course of nature, and
they should put it back. But, because I don't know this Taoist, it
would be hard to tell how he/she would react.

4. I feel that this question is a generalization, too, for the same
reasons as I said in the previous question. So, in theory, the Taoist
would see the hunting regulations in today's society as restricting on
our actions, and our actions should be free to be natural and
spontaneous. But, we can't truly know this answer unless we ask every
Taoist in the world.

5. Taoism deals with subjects that Confucianism ignores, because
Confucianism deals with conformity and how an individual must conform
to society's rules. Taoism deals with how an individual must free the
imagination and discourage conformity. Taoism also deals with
investigateing with the universe, and learning new things through
curiousity. Taoism has advantages in that it lets a person free their
mind and become one with nature, encouraging their knowledge of the
world around them, which leads to discoveries both scientific, and
spiritual. A disadvantage would be that Taoism can be interpreted many
ways, and one way is that perhaps a Taoist would believe that he/she
must break all the rules in order to become a Taoist. An advantage of
Confucianism is that it focuses on moral improvements that help the
believer make himself/herself have better judgement and values in day
to day life. A disadvantage of Confusianism is that the believer could
be forced into believing in a dictatorship because they can only learn
from what the ruler says, and not learn on their own.

6. Taoism might have let ordinary Chinese people believe that they
could break any regulation, no matter what it was. It could also let
them believe that they didn't have to follow any rule they didn't
like. They could have misinterpreted the Tao, which I believe really
says that if a rule doesn't make sense, you shouldn't have to follow
it. Taoism can be seen as an anti-establishment philosophy because it
is allowing people to free their mind and let their mind think about
the things around them, rather than be told what to think. Societies
usually tell you what to think and how to act, but Taoism allows you
to think for yourself, and thinking for yourself is an anti-
establishment action, and because Taoism is about thinking for
yourself and being one with nature, it can be seen as an anti-
establishment philosophy.

Hannah

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May 13, 2010, 5:58:47 PM5/13/10
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1. Lao-tzu did not want to give the Tao a name because it is present
in everything and cannot be defined. It is an unchanging force that
unifies all of nature, so it should not have a name. Also, Taoists
sought to be identified with the Tao in order to be in harmony with
the entire universe. Some illustrations of the Tao are nature since
they are at one with the universe. (trees, sun, sky, breeze).
2. The concept of wu wei is to basically go with the flow. When one
encounters problems with the world, they should become one with the
problem as opposed to trying to struggle against it. It is basically
being relaxed and dealing with things as they come up by simply
"letting it be".
3. If a bird's nest fell out of a tree, a Taoist would ignore it.
This is because a Taoist is supposed to let things in nature be as
they are. If a human were to change nature, it would almost be corrupt
for the Taoist ideals because something not from nature is changing
the "will" of nature to make the nest fall from the tree.
4. A Taoist would be disgusted with the hunting regulations in today's
society. In a Taoist society, animal's would not be permitted to be
killed by man-made weapons. That disrupts the natural flow and cycle
of nature
5. Confucianism was more focused on people and what their morals,
values, and places should be in society and government, where as
Taoism was more focused on the relationship between the human race and
the universe. Confucanism was also more about conformity, where as
Taoism is more about freedom and being true to yourself/self-
discovery. Some advantages to Confucianism are that it is a more
structured society with regulations. Some disadvantages, however, are
that people might not always be true to themselves if they are told
how they should act. Some advantages to Taoism are that people are
very liberated when taking part in Taoism. They are able to make their
own decisions and discover new things about the world and themselves.
Some disadvantages are that there are not many boundaries, and that it
could get a little bit out of hand if there are no regulations.
6. Taoism may have confused ordinary people in China because of its
almost hippie-like views. It is such a free-formed philosophy, that
many people may not have understood it. I believe that it can be seen
as an anti-establishment philosophy because it gives people the right
to "ignore" laws and boundaries, which could be difficult when dealing
with government.

Annie

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May 13, 2010, 6:35:47 PM5/13/10
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1. Lao-tzu didn't want to give the Tao a name because there was no way
to describe it due to the fact that Tao is present in everything, and
because there was no way to define it, and it has no specific form.
Taoism is based on becoming one with nature and not conforming with
the social order. Wu wei is a concept of Taoism that means acting in
harmony with nature. One of the best illustrations of this is water.

2. Wu wei is a way to describe becoming one with nature, and making
observations about every small aspect of nature while finding deeper
meaning in what nature does. One of wu wei's best illustrations is
water, because it has no form, but fits to its surroundings' shapes,
and while its the most gentle thing on earth, it can have the ability
to erode mountains.

3. I think the Taoist would leave the nest there because they don't
want to interfere with the course that nature takes, because every
force of nature has a purpose, including the nest falling from the
tree. Taoism also conforms with nature, and in order to conform, they
would have to leave the nest on the ground. Another Taoist view,
however, could be that in order to conform with nature he or she needs
to help the bird by putting the nest back, but it is more likely that
they would want to let nature take its course.

4. A Taoist would agree with the hunting regulations today, because
Taoists wouldn't want deer to be killed because they are part of
nature. They probably wouldn't need the regulations in a society of
all Taoists, because if no Taoist was going to kill the deer, so there
would be no need for restriction of hunting privileges.

5. Taoism is based on not conforming with society, but Confucianism is
based on the opposite, conforming with society. Taoism is also more
individually based, and largely focuses on nature. A more specific
example of their differences is that the Confucians listened to ritual
music, whereas the Taoists heard the "music of spheres". An advantage
of Confucianism is that it is more structured, and based on social and
political order. A disadvantage of Confucianism is that it does not
let the individual become free and part of nature. The advantage of
Taoism is that it lets the individual explore nature and one's
relation with nature, and does not require one to conform with the
rules of society. It also has led to many scientific inventions and
discoveries. The disadvantage is that it doesn't have a specific
structure and it goes against the norms of society so the Taoists
could get themselves in trouble for breaking laws.

6. Taoism could have bothered the normal people in China because the
Taoists didn't conform to the same rules as everyone else. It also
could have influenced the other people to go against society without
actually being a Taoist. Taoism definitely had positive effects too,
such as the new medicinal and scientific discoveries that it lead to.
Taoism can be seen as an anti-establishment theory because it goes
against society and doesn't call for a typical educational system, but
lets the mind learn through nature and the forces of the universe.


On May 13, 8:59 am, "Mr. J." <glen.jaskelew...@rtsd.org> wrote:

Amy

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May 13, 2010, 7:47:26 PM5/13/10
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1. Lao-tzu didn’t want to name the Tao because it is a universal,
transcendent force. It encompasses everything, but has no shape or
limit. Therefore, it shouldn’t be limited by a name. Wu wei is the way
to harmonize with the Tao, and it is often illustrated by water
because of water’s formless nature.

2. To follow wu wei is to go with the flow. Wu wei is illustrated by
water, because it has many of the same characteristics. Water conforms
to everything around it, and is weak but still destroys stone and
soil. Wu wei is like this, because to follow wu wei is to conform to
everything’s shape, and not to clash with anything.

3. The ideal Taoist would leave the nest where it is, because Taoism
focuses on the force of nature and the interaction of all things on
the earth. I feel like a Taoist would believe that interfering with
that interaction by saving the lives of the birds in the nest would be
to disrupt something sacred.

4. I’m pretty sure that a Taoist would think that hunting regulations
are a good thing, because they would believe it is not for us to
disrupt nature and the Tao by killing animals. It’s possible they
would view it as a bad thing because they could think that humans
should interact with animals without restraint, just like animals
interact with animals.

5. Confucianism focuses on matters like rules, structure, society,
duty, and morals. It is a way of thinking that centers on humans in a
social structure, and disregards the individual. Taoism focuses on
nature, spirituality, the universe, individualism, and observation.
They are two very different ideals, because Confucianism believes in
conforming in society and Taoism believes in blending with nature. The
two scorn each other. Some advantages of Confucianism could be the
ability to prosper in society and improved morality. Some
disadvantages could be the ignorance of individual needs and
individual opinions. Some advantages of Taoism could be a heightened
awareness of nature and an inner peace. Some disadvantages could be an
inability to support oneself in society and too much eccentricity.

6. Taoism could have affected the average person in China in many
ways. Some were probably a little disturbed by it, because the idea of
blending with nature made them uncomfortable. Some were probably
inspired to be more observant of their situation and to care less
about rules. And some were probably influenced by the roots of modern
scientific practice, even intrigued. By ancient China’s standards,
Taoism was definitely anti-establishment, because it endorsed the
scorning of rules and tradition in order to become one with nature.
Especially from the viewpoints of people in ancient China, Taoism
could be looked at as a foil to civilized society.


On May 13, 8:59 am, "Mr. J." <glen.jaskelew...@rtsd.org> wrote:

Robyn

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May 13, 2010, 7:52:44 PM5/13/10
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1. Lao-Tzu didn't want to give the Tao a name because the Tai is the
first cause of the universe, a force that flows through all life.
Since the Tao is everywhere in nature, it is too vast and varying to
be defined. Also, by not giving the Tao a name Lao-Tzu was rejecting
the formality of it, ignoring social norms.

2. The principle of wu wei dictated to Taoist followers that they must
act in harmony with nature. Rather than fight against the current of
life, Taoism preaches to go with the current, to let things be as they
naturally should be and to appreciate them just as they are.

3. If a bird's nest fell out of a tree a Taoist would not put it back
because that would be interfering with what nature had intended.

4. A Taoist would most likely be horrified by the hunting regulations
in today's society because hunting in general disturbs and disrupts
the ecosystem. One cannot discover the nature and rhythm of the
universe when humans are permitted to so violently abuse it.

5. Confucianism and Taoism are very different because Confucianism
preaches conformity to a very strict moral order in society, while
Taoism advocates freedom for individuals and less government, and to
avoid uniformity and conformity. (They are essentially opposites.)
Confucianism is positive because of its major principles of Li, Ren,
Shu, Yi, and Xiao, which dictate that people must be humane,
empathetic, righteous, and must have respect for their elders and
decorum at all times. Confucianism could be seen as negative because
it really pushes women to the way side by giving them insignificant
roles in life; (they are subordinate even to their sons.) Taoism is
positive because it teaches people to release themselves from the
suffering, chaos, and absurdity of the world- to coexist simply and
happily with nature. Taoism could be seen as negative because of it's
concept of wu wei, which includes the art of doing nothing, which
could be seen as counterproductive and a waste of time.

6. Taoism may have acted as an anti-establishment philosophy because
it rejected the formalities of society and dictated to its followers
to ignore political and social laws, which may have led them to do
things that were out of line or inappropriate, using Taoist principles
as their justification for such behaviors.

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Sam

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1: Lao-tzu did not want to name the tao is present in everything, yet
it has no form and cannot be named or defined. Taoists sought to be
indentified with the Tao, to be in harmony with the entire universe.
One illustration of the tao is we wei, and the best way to describe
that is that it is like water and conforms to its surroundings.
Another illustration is natures and everything in nature.

2: Wu wei is becoming one with nature and adapting to what nature
presents you with and go along with it. It is like water because water
goes with the flow and adapts to what ever situation that it is put
in.

3: I do not think that a Taoist would put the bird's nest back in the
tree because that is interfering with the flow of nature and going
against we wei. If it fell out of the tree it must have done so for a
reason, and thus, should not be interfered with. The taoist would let
it be and go along with life as nature presented it to him.

4: I do not think that a taoist would like hunting regulations in
today's society at all. Hunting in the first place is an awful thing,
and it also interferes with nature's cycle. If the animals are killed
the whole cycle of what would happen in nature would change and it
would not be a flowing process. Hunting basically goes against
everything that the tao preaches.

5: Confusionism is more based on the individual and how they can
better themselves and their morals, and taoism is more based off the
relationship with the individual and his or her surroundings and how
they adapt to them. Taoism liberated the imagination of the individual
and encouraged nonconformity while confucianism centered on social and
political order, not on art and invention or science. Advantages of
confucianism are that morally you are more likely to become a better
person and it is for the embetterment of yourself, but it might force
you to live in your own little bubble. Confucianism is good because is
allows the person to be much more open minded and think about things
like they never would have before, but it also may make people
ignorant of many things in the world and society.

6: I think ordinary people in China may have viewed taoism as an odd
thing because it brings out views of things as people may have never
seen them before. And i do think it can be seen as an anti-
establishment philosophy because it encourages the ignoring of laws.
On May 13, 8:59 am, "Mr. J." <glen.jaskelew...@rtsd.org> wrote:

Sibtain Bokhari

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1. Lao-tzu did not give Tao a name because he says that it is present
in everything, so it cannot be named or defined. Taoists refer to Tao
as the way of the whole observable universe. To the Taoist, his ideal
is a behavior, free to be natural and spontaneous. One way of merging
with the Tao is to embrace the concept of wu wei, which means acting
in harmony with nature. The best illustration of wu wei is water. That
is because water has no shape and conforms to it's surroundings. This
is like how people should conform and merge with nature.
2. Wu wei is acting in harmoney with nature. To achieve Tao, one
should not fight nature, rather conform to and follow it. You should
allow yourself to merge with nature and not let the outside society
spoil it.
3. I think that a Taoist would leave the nest on the floor. Because
Tao is in everything, why would a bird's nest be more important than a
fallen plant? To a Taoist, nature follows a certain course, and they
do not interfere with that course. They hope to merge with it, and
that is the goal of Taoism. What they are not supposed to do is fight
the universe, and this can be interpreted as interfering with the
universe. If a nest falls, it is meant to fall, so that is the way of
the universe and nature. Because of this, a Taoist would not pick up
the nest.
4. A Taoist would view todays hunting regulations as very bad. This is
because Taoists do not want to affect the course of nature, and todays
hunting laws allow for it. Also, hunting is a material act because you
do not need meat to survive, and the Taoists want to abandon material
goods. All in all, Taoists would view these laws as blasphemous.
5. Taoists emphasize the relationship between people and nature, while
Confucians focus on the peoples place in society. Also, Confucianism
promotes the idea of conforming with society. Taoists reject that
ideal, and focus on letting loose people's imaginations and
nonconformity. The ultimate goal of Taoists is to become one with
nature, while the Confucians want a stable social order. There are
many advantages to Taoism. According to this theology, one must ignore
societies laws. What this means is that while on the path to nature,
one must do all that it takes, and not let societies restrictions stop
it. With Confucianism, if observed in the correct way, society will
fall directly into place and there will be stability and order.
6. All of the past theologies in China had a social attachment to
them, such as with Buddhism, people followed the Buddha. With Taoism,
people followed their own paths. No one person could tell them the
true path to Tao, it was all based on your own imagination, and how
you chose to merge with nature and the universe. It can sort of be
seen as an anti-establishment philosophy. This is because it calls for
the ignorance of laws. One needs to ignore the laws when they get in
your way while on the path to Tao. Also, it calls for the individual
to lead their life, not to be inhibited by the actions of others.
Because of this, Taoism can be seen as an anti-establishment
philosophy.


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John Li

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1. Lao Tzu didn't believe that the Tao should be able to be named or
defined because it is an eternal, everlasting and unchanging force
that pervades and unifies all nature. It is also present in everything
and has no physical form. Illustrations of the Tao include primarily
nature, and the best known example of an illustration of the Tao is
water, because of its conformational qualities and its ability to
flow.
2. Wu Wei literally means "going with the flow", or acting in harmony
of nature. This article used water as an example of wu wei. Instead of
going against the forces of nature, one should follow them and use it
to their advantage. Thus, in the example of water, instead of going
against the flow of water in a river, one should go with the flow of
water.
3. Many Taoists would ignore this bird's nest, mainly because it seems
like they'd be "acting against the forces of nature". The Taoist
belief would be that nature had a purpose to putting the birds nest on
the ground, and to put the birds nest back onto the tree it fell off
of would be going against nature.
4. This is a strange question. To be honest, I think this is an
incredibly controversial topic, mainly because it would change with
the different personalities of different people. It seems that some
Taoists would agree with hunting regulations because on one side,
these hunting regulations don't allow the hunting of certain animals.
However, some would completely disagree with these hunting regulations
because they still permit the slaughter of some animals, which
disturbs the flow of nature. Therefore, because the hunting
regulations both permit hunting and prevent hunting, I believe Taoists
have conflicting views on this topic.
5. Confucianism goes off of the notion of conforming to society, while
Taoism goes off of the notion of conforming to nature. Thus, many
Confucianists wouldn't conform to nature and be seen as non-eco
friendly people, while many Taoists wouldn't conform to society and be
seen as rebels and dangerous people. Confucianism was more about the
society as a whole, while Taoism dealt with individual matters.
Confucianism had various advantages, including a stable society and
development of morals, but it also forced the individual to have no
uniqueness and live under a almost authoritarian government. Taoism
stressed the individual, so it was rather pleasing to the individual,
and allowed them to conform with nature and gain knowledge. However,
it also promoted nonconformism, which could be seen as a negative side
effect of Taoism.
6. Taoism could potentially tear apart normal Chinese people because
of the nature of Taoism. Taoism promoted nonconformism that could
potentially lead to eccentricity. This nonconformist belief of the
common person could potentially lead them to believe that they didn't
have to follow the laws of society. This, in turn, could cause major
spikes in crime rates, and China would be in chaos. Because Taoism
promoted this conformation to nature and not society, it could be
interpreted into an invitation to break laws.

Mike Stavrakos

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May 13, 2010, 8:52:45 PM5/13/10
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1. It seems that Lao doesn't want to name the Tao because to do so is
impossible because the Tao is present in everything but it has no
form. They think that the Tao is the entire universe and their goal is
to simply be identified with the Tao. At first this is a ridiculous
thought but it is also similar to in Islam how Allah isn't allowed to
be pictured or drawn because Allah is beyond human comprehension,
similarly to how the Tao is non-identifiable for Taoists.

2. Wu Wei is the concept of "going with the flow" and simply letting
life and situations take you where they are headed, rather than
fighting or attempting to control them. Also, Wu Wei corresponds with
the idea that man-made norms such as laws or traditions should not be
followed because they distance you from the Tao by separating man from
the rest of the natural forces. Water is often used as a perfect
example of Wu Wei because it is undefined, and it takes the shape of
whatever container it occupies.

3. If this were to happen, I don't think a Taoist would either put it
back or just ignore it. In my opinion, Taoists are the same as all
other people, but they look at life and nature differently. Because of
this, a Taoist would most likely notice that the nest fell, think
about it, contemplate doing something, and eventually leave it where
it lie. The rational behind this would be that everything happens for
a reason and you shouldn't try to reverse or prevent things from
happening, but rather let nature adapt and work things out naturally.

4. I think that a Taoist would see hunting regulations as a hindrance
upon the natural order of life and as social norms and laws that are
unnecessary. Based on their belief that things should occur naturally
with little human intervention, hunting laws would probably be seen as
something that is preventing the natural cycle of life and the
universe, where people are meant to hunt to survive.

5. Confucianism and Taoism seem to differ greatly, but it said
directly that it was not uncommon for a person to believe in or be
influenced by both. Confucianism was based around a development of
human morality and the social and political society that would
intertwine with it. Taoism, however, was based around rejection of man-
made rules or laws in order to live life naturally and in touch with
the Tao. This did not mean for Taoists to go out and blatantly break
laws or ignore laws, but rather to not let them hinder the natural
order of life.

6. Taoism would have affected people greatly in China because it
allowed them to get in touch with themselves, the universe, and life
as a whole. It allowed for Taoists to live their lives without
boundaries, and to seek out knowledge from every possible source.
Because it was such an open-minded belief system, Taoism was the
driving force behind a plethora of medical, scientific, and biological
advances and discoveries. It did, however, more or less reject all
establishment with laws or traditions or cultural standards, thus it
can be easily seen as an anti-establishment philosophy.

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Shahrin Islam

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1. Lao Tzu did not want to name the Tao because the Tao is eternal, universal and indefinable. It is everlasting and ever changing . It is in everything and therefore, it has no defined form or shape. To name it would be defining it, which contradicts what the concept of Tao is really supposed to be. One can merge with the Tao by following the principles of wu-wei. One of the best examples of wu-wei is water, which has no defined shape and will conform to its container and although a soft force, it has immense power. In this way, it shows that humans should conform to the way of nature and in harmonizing, nature and the person can remain unspoiled by the ills of a defined, hierarchal society.
2. Wu-wei is basically a set of principles that allow a person to become one with the Tao. Therefore, it means one must become one with the nature. The person must go with the flow and stop trying to defy the forces of nature. The best example of wu-wei is water for it has the power to conform, yet it also has the power to create paths and destroy "stone". So a person can conform, yet still have the power to destroy the rules forced upon by a strict ordered society. He or she is soft, yet firm in their principles and beliefs. 
3. Depending on the Taoist, I think that one might believe that the bird's nest falling is part of nature's course. It happened because it had to happen, therefore, one must let nature run its course undisrupted. However, another Taoist might pick up the bird's nest for there might have been a disruption in the equilibrium and harmony of nature, therefore the bird's nest fell. So according to that Taoist, it is their duty to restore the equilibrium and harmony to nature. So this question is relative to the Taoist.
4. I think that hunting regulations are probably a good thing for the Taoist. Hunting also disrupts the equilibrium of nature and in my opinion, hunting is a form of disrespect to nature. By installing hunting regulations, the integrity of the animals is preserved and that in turn, keeps the equilibrium of nature at a balance.
5. Confucianism and Taoism differ quite a lot and probably the biggest difference is that Confucianism focuses on a strict, hierarchial conduct for society whereas Taoism focuses on the individual and they reject a rigid, defined society. Confucians are limited in their ability to explore, imagine, and find a different perspectives by observing and finding rhythm in nature. However, Taoists, by rejecting society and its rule, are ignorant of the other people that also belong to the same society; Taoism invokes a heightened sense of self-centeredness. Confucianism allows society to prosper as a whole by assigning a strict moral code; they provide lines so that society can remain in line. Taoism promotes imagination, exploration and experimentation. It allows the individual to harmonize with nature. Although both are very different, both Confucianism and Taoism have positive aspects and negative aspects.
6. I think Taoism is a two way street. I believe it is anti-establishment, but there could be a Tao, who in light can seen as an "extremist" by "attacking" society in a violent, anarchial, chaotic manner, which defeats the purpose of being Tao. There could also be the Tao who rejects societies strict rules and disciplines, but approaches it in a smart, artful manner, by first observing nature, seeing what could be changed in society and how one can better become a universalist so that society can prosper. In China, Taoism provided people with two very different outlooks. One Chinese citizen might have been repulsed by the ideals of Taoism for essentially, it is an anti-establishment philosophy that invokes chaos and anarchy, which disrupts a peaceful society. They might have believed that rules and regulations exist for a reason and the reason being that it provides order and discipline so that society doesn't disintegrate. However, Taoism also provided creative, imaginative, experimental outlets for other Chinese citizens. Because of observation, imagination and such other ideals that Taoism promotes, Taoists were able to make various advancements in society, such as medicine and technology. These advancements weren't just for Taoists, but for all of China. Since philosophy is so relative, I believe that it solely up to the individual. So I can't really imagine how it might have in reality affected the people of China but from what I've learned about Taoism, i think that it might have been taken in two different ways.

alyssa norton

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1. Lao-tzu does not want to give the Tao a name because it has no form
and cannot be named or defined. Tao is in everything and rather than
be considered Taoists, they would prefer to be identified with the
entire universe, and their goal was to be harmonious with it, and
since Tao is considered eternal, they sought to be at one with
eternity. One of the best illustrations of Taoism is wu wei which is
water. Water has no form, therefore it doesn't follow any boundaries,
but at the same time it conforms to the shape of that which surrounds
it, essentially "going with the flow". Nothing is weaker than water,
but at the same time it has immense power. This is what the Taoists
hoped to achieve. Another illustration of the Tao not included in the
article would be the wind. Wind too goes with the flow, while also
fitting into any space it surrounds. Also similar to water is the fact
that wind at times is one of the weakest things in nature, but at
times it too has immense power, like in a tornado. The big difference
between the two is that wind you cannot see, which almost makes it
more in sync with the Taoist beliefs.
2. Wu wei, like I discussed earlier, is a very good illustration of
the beliefs of Taoism. It means water, and it is a way in which
Taoists could merge with the Tao, which also means acting in harmony
with nature. The Taoists don't believe that people should struggle
against nature, rather they should follow them, which water is the
best representation of.
3. If a bird's nest fell out of a tree, I believe a Taoist would not
put it back in the tree. I think this because they would take it as a
part of nature, and by moving the birds nest they would be messing
with nature. It wouldn't be "going with the flow". But this is just my
interpretation, and I would have to ask a legitimate Taoist to see
their response. But again, that wouldn't be accurate because that
would only be one Taoist interpretation and there are many different
interpretations.
4. I think that Taoist would view hunting in general as a completely
horrid thing. I believe for them, killing animals is completely
against nature because animals will die on their own eventually and by
hurrying the process would be completely going against the flow.
Therefore I think hunting regulations would result in mixed results
for the Taoists. While some would discourage them as being boundaries
and laws, others would encourage them because they would be going
against hunting.
5. Confucianism stresses the imperatives of social order and keeps to
the constraints of Confucian duty. Taoism rejects those imperatives
and disregards the constraints of Confucian duties. Also Confucianism
limits its scope to people and their place in society and government,
while Taoism emphasizes the relationship between people and the vast
and resplendent universe. In this way Taoism is complementary to
Confucianism, meaning that it dealt with subjects that Confucianism
ignored. Also the Taoists mocked prescribed values and compulsory
behaviour, which was the basics of Confucianism. Taoism instead
focused on a mind and a behavior that allowed them to be natural and
spontaneous.
6. Taoism may have affected ordinary people in China because it may
have empowered them to break any law, and then use Taoism as their
excuse for doing so. There also may have been some conflict between
the Confucianists and the Taoists because of their conflicting ideals.
While the Confucianists would believe in a strict set of duties and
social orders the Taoists would have been more easy going and natural.
I think at times, like I explained earlier, this philosophy could be
seen as an anti-establishment because people could use it as an excuse
for breaking laws and regulations when really it does not enforce the
breaking of rules, rather the disregard of one's that do not follow
with Taoist beliefs or do not follow nature.


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Shannon

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1. Lao-tzu did not want to give the Tao a name because since the Tao
is in everything, you can't have one definition for something that is
in everything. Some examples of the Tao is the concept of wu wei,
which means to act in harmony with nature. The wu wei is commonly
illustrated by water.

2. Wu wei is the act of embracing nature and to adapt /be like nature
instead of fight or change it. Wu wei says humans should be like
water, which conforms to its surroundings, remains unspoiled, and is
weak and strong at the same time.

3. I think a true Taoist would leave the nest, because they believe
that in nature everything happens for a reason and works together. The
Taoist would think that if they put the nest back then they would be
altering nature, instead of conforming and flowing with it.

4. I think a Taoist would agree with the hunting regulations, but not
always abide by them. They would agree with the concept of limiting
people from killing to many deer or other creatures because man should
not intervene to much with nature. But Taoist also do not have to
follow laws if they don't want to, since that's one of their
philosophies.

5. Confucianism and Taoism differ in many ways, but complement each
other because of that. Confucianism is focused on a moral and
political society, while Taoism focuses on individual and nonsocietal
matters. Confucian limits people based on their place in society and
government, but Taoism was concerned with the relationships amongst
people and our places in the huge universe. Taoism encourage
imagination, but didn't have control. Meanwhile Confucianism creates a
strong moral leading government, but limits people to many things that
they cannot control, like gender and place in society.

6. Taoism might have affected the ordinary people of China because
their curiosity of nature and the universe they classified and
categorized many aspects of nature like, herbs, minerals, behaviors of
fire, water, and other elements. Then they created many medicines
which were used in many type of situations. Through these science
breakthroughs Taoist created an intellectual environment, which lead
to technologies and theories in years to come, including present day.
Despite its intellectual affects on China today, it can be seen as a
anti-establishment philosophy because it rejects society and tries to
"go with the flow" and not change things.


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James

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1. Lao-tzu didnt want to give the Tao a name because he felt that the
Tao encompassed so much that no specific definition of it would work.
The most fitting illustration of the Tao is water, because it does so
much in nature. A stream is always flowing, no matter what comes in
its way. Even still water moves; it evaporats and become rain, which
then finds its way into a stream and flows.

2. Wu wei means acting in peace and harmony with nature. In order to
follow wu wei, which is essentially a principle of Taoism, you must
not struggle in any way against nature and just go with the flow.

3. A Taoist would leave the nest on the ground, because they would
believe that it was the nest's destiny to fall and that it would
disrupt the natural order of things if they put it back. A major
principle of Taoism is that everything in nature happens for a reason,
and that one should not intefere with these happenings.

4. A Taoist would have mixed views on hunting regulations. They would
disagree with hunting for pure sport, because that is pure destruction
of nature. However, they may encourage hunting for food because that
is a return to nature, having to join in the struggles that the rest
of the creatures of the world undergo.

5. Confucianism and Taoism have one main difference. Confucianism
preaches a firm grasp of traditions and the importance of stability in
a society, where Taoists believe that there should be no rules and
that the only rule to be followed is to become one with nature and
never go against the flow. One advantage of Confucianism is that it
gives parents and elders authority in society, which is where the
authority belongs. However, Daoism gives people an opportunity to
"become one with the force which flows through nature."

6. I believe that in modern-day China Taoism would definately be seen
as anti-establishment because of its preaching of ignoring social and
political laws. But Taoism should not necessarily be seen as anti-
government just because of these teachings. In order to be one with
nature, many of the laws that exist must still be upheld, and on one's
quest to become one with the Dao, there would be little interference
with the government, let alone other people.

Erik Hotaling

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1.lao-tzu didn't want Tao to have a name because it encompasses
everything in the universe an you can't give a name for everything.
Also it is not a tangible thing so it is hard to exactly describe it.
Some examples are the cycle of life and death and how once a organism
dies it's material goes back into the creation of other organisms.
Another example is how water cycles through the air and through all
living things.

2. Wu Wei is not acting against the forces of nature. It is following
your instincts and acting without being effected by human laws or
civilization.

3. No a Taoist would believe that it is interfering with the natural
flow of life and that it was meant to fall so you should not pick it
up. Also they would observe the birds nest because they would be
curious to see how it fit into the tao so that they could further
their understanding.

4. a Taoist would not like the hunting regulations because they
interfere with the natural predation of humans. However they would
also not approve of the over hunting that forced the hunting
regulations. They would see this as a disruption of the flow of things
and they would see it as humans overstepping their boundaries and
responsibilities as part of the Tao

5. Confucians believed in a strict social order and many rules while
Taoists believed in none of these. They believed that a person must be
free to experience the world in as natural a way possible and to
embrace the world outside the boundaries of human society. Other than
the rules thing they share many of the same foundations.

6. Taoism may have affected ordinary people in china because in a time
when their was a large focus on laws and a strong social order Taoists
would have been seen as rebels and most likely would have been either
discriminated against or punished by the government. Taoism can be
seen as an ainti-establishment philosophy because it does tell it's
people not to obey the laws of society which would technically be anti-
establishment. However, Taoism doesn't tell it's people to go and
steal and do bad things. So as long as a Taoist is not using their
religion as an excuse to break normal society's rules it should not be
a problem.


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Brendan

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1) Lao-tzu did not want to give Tao a name because it wasn't a single
identity that could be given a form but was a force that prevailed in
all forms of life. Taoist illustrations could consist of any thing
that was part of the Tao, the unending nature of the universe and
nothing was too lowly or to mighty to be part of this force. Taoist
would also look at certain things in different ways for example they
might see a bowl but its usefulness resides in the pace where the bowl
isn't, where it is hollow and can hold things.

2) Wu wei is the concept of "go with the flow" and "let nature take
its course", meaning that all things in nature work them selves out
and that in order to become one with the Tao we must joint this
flowing of nature and be able to adapt in any way just like nature
does.

3) If a birds nest fell out of a tree i think a Taoist would not pick
it up because they would then be interrupting the flow of nature, the
opposite of their goal. They would see the nest falling for a reason
such as the nest was too unstable so nature caused it to fall so the
bird would lay its eggs in a safer spot and this is the natural way of
things happening.

4)I think Taoists would be against hunting regulations in our society
be cause they constrict upon the forces of nature. It also excludes
humans from becoming one with the Tao by putting up a legal barrier
between man and nature , and one of the principles of Taoism is to
ignore man made laws and customs that restrict one from joining the
Tao. A Taoist might say that by placing hunting restrictions mankind
is causing a misbalance in population that would naturally occur
without a regulation.

5) Taoism is different from COnfucianism in that it focuses more on
the individual and how that specific individual will become one with
the Tao. Advantages that stemmed from this ideology include scientific
advances that people developed to become closer to the Tao such as
medicines to increase ones life span as well as a monitored diet again
to increase life span giving one more chance to join the Tao.
Confucianism on the other hand focused more on the benefit of the
group as a whole and that the only way for everyone to benefit was to
conform to a strict social order. Benefits of this ideology include a
strong political field that works for the people as well as a strong
community that knows that everyone is connected and their decisions
effect one another in the community.

6) Taoism could have both positive and negative effects on the
ordinary people of China. Positives include the increase of scientific
knowledge derived from nature such as monitored diets as well as
certain , medicines all to help people live longer and become closer
with nature. However the principle of ignoring laws and customs that
disrupt nature could be taken in the wrong direction by certain people
to mean break laws that they feel like infringes upon them. This could
potentially lead to an anti-establishment philosophy in which people
forget the most important principle; to be in harmony with the Tao
which most laws should already support because nature worked them so
but only to ignore the one that disturb the balance of nature.

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Kai

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1. The Tao does not have a specific name because it encompasses the
whole universe. By giving it a simple name meaning the Way, he avoids
trying to pull something tangible out of an inherently intangible
idea. One of the best illustrations of Tao is water. Its dynamic form
shows the ever changing natural Tao.

2. Wu wei is acting with nature. It means one should follow what
naturally occurs, never to struggle against it. One should let things
be and just act naturally based on what feels right.

3. Although certainly some Taoists will interpret it differently, I
believe most would decided to leave the nest be. Because they believe
in a free flowing nature that has a course for everything. The Taoist
would consider it nature's will and leave the nest be. However, some
may believe that man is as much part of nature as is everything else.
In such a way, a man who cares about the birds may move the bird's
nest and still be a Taoist because he is following his nature.

4. I think the Taoists would like the hunting regulations because it
preserves nature's flow. By keeping the animals in their habitats and
protecting them from alien dangers, natures flow is preserved.

5. Confucianism and Taoism differ because Confucianism deals with
society and a person's role in society while Taoism deals with the
individual and the individual's role in the universe. Advantages of
Confucianism include good social structure and very civilized conduct.
Advantages of Taoism include being comfortable and one with nature,
and flowing with the natural world.

6. To ordinary people, Taoism was probably influencing their
appreciation for their surroundings. It made them more aware of nature
and of their place in nature, but I do not think it was seen as an
anti-establishment philosophy. It is human nature to make order of
chaos. So Taoism would not go against government because humans
naturally create it.
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sami

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1. Lao-Tzu doesn’t give the Tao a name, because the concept of Tao
transcends worldy concepts like names. To give a name to the Tao would
be to bound it to the social institution that is language. Tao
described to be the eternal, everlasting, and unchanging force that
pervades and unifies all nature.
2. Wu Wei is a Taoist principle that advocates acting in harmony with
nature. To act in accordance with Wu Wei, one must not struggle
against the flow of nature, but rather let follow it and become one
with it’s natural order.
3. If a bird’s nest fell out of a tree, a Taoist would undoubtedly
ignore it. According to Taoism, the nest falling is a part of the flow
of nature. Picking it up would be considered disrupting the flow.
4. I think a Taoist would be in strong support of hunting regulations.
Taoists oppose acts that disturbing the natural and killing animals
for recreation instead of need definitely qualify as a disturbance.
5. Confucianism focuses on how one should fit into a society while
Taoism focuses on the relationship one has with the universe. One
advantage of Confucianism is that it provides its followers with a
clear purpose and direction by giving them a set of universal morals
to abide by.
A disadvantage is that it discourages individual expression and
encourages conformity. Conformity will generally hinder progression in
science, arts, and culture in a society. One advantage of Taoism is
it’s individual expression and intuitiveness. The abstract thinkers
that this ideology created went on to make some of the scientific
communities greatest discoveries. However, one disadvantage that
Taoism possesses is it’s utter rejection of society’s laws and morals.
These anti-establishment ideologies clash with that of the civilized
modern world, and thus make it hard for the religion to survive.
6. I think the Taoism might have appeared strange to the people of
China, when it first emerged because it went against almost every
social norm known to them. I think it is safe to use the phrase “anti
establishment” to describe the Taoist philosophy. Although it doesn’t
directly advocate tearing down the world’s social order, it certainly
tells its followers to reject it. If Taoism were to spread worldwide
and become the world’s primary religion, society would cease to exist.


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Me

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1. Tao is not given a name, because that would be far too limiting. It
is everything. Tao is an abstract and philosophical idea. To name it
would be to simplify it. Tao represents the limitless creative
possibilities open to people. Naming it could never do Tao justice.
The best illustration of Tao is in water. Water clearly represents Wu
Wei the "go with the flow" notion.

2. Wu Wei is doing what feels right. It should not be something you
have to think about. It is being one with nature, not conforming. What
happens happens.

3. If a birds nest fell out of a tree a Taoist would leave it alone.
The event of it falling was part of nature. Of course this also would
depend on the Taoist, because perhaps this Taoist's first instinct is
to put the nest back. Then by not doing so they are disrupting nature,
because they themselves are also a part of nature, and by not acting
they are disrupting the balance. However, if a bird's nest fell out of
a tree a Taoist would most likely observe it...see if the mother
returned or the birds hatched etc.

4. A Taoist would not like or dislike today's hunting regulations.
After all regulations by definition are boundries like laws are
boundries. Boundries are confining and while taoism is conforming it
is not confining. Tao is limitless, so rather than have an opinion of
yes or no a Taoist would ignore the regulation. Thus having no
objection or appreciation of the hunting regulations.

5. While Taoism deals with nature the universe and everything,
Confucianism dealt with people's place in society. These two views can
serve as eachothers ying and yangs. They contrast eachother nicely,
and people can practice both at once. I, however, prefer Taoism.
Taoism is freeing and open. It encourges creativity and individuality.
But mostly I prefer Taoism because if I were confucian I would have
absolutly no respect, since I am a girl.

6. Taoism would have impacted china in many ways. I feel the most
significant would be the scientific advances. Taoism encouraged
research and lead to many inventions like paper and gun powder. It
also encouraged free thinking. This could have stirred up some
trouble. But is Taoism an anti-establishment practice? It could be
called that, and some people most defintly view it as such. I
personally prefer to think of it as a "question authority" kind of
ideology. It is not saying break the rules, but rather question "why
does this rule exist? Is it just reaffirming what the natural thing is
(like not killing people) or is the law only there because the law
maker disliked a certaint behavior (like in Bensalem it is illegal to
advertise bingo prizes). For the most part followers of Taoism won't
commit crimes, because most laws are natural, but they are not
confined by the laws anyway. It is not intended to be anti-
establishment, but it can very easily come across that way.

Megan Doherty

Ryan

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1. Lao-tzu didn't want to give the Tao a name because it is
indescribable. It is ever present, all encompassing, indefinable, and
formless. To name this force would be to take away some of the vast
connotations of this force. The Tao is often illustrated through water
because water is also a powerful all natural force that all life
relies on.
2. Wu wei is the art of doing nothing, which is deceptively difficult.
It is to go with the flow of life, not to fight against what is going
to happen, that would make you a hinderance to the flow of the Tao.
3. If a Taoist encountered a fallen birds nest and faced with the
question of whether or not to put it back in the tree, a Taoist would
leave it as it is. He would do this because he would know that he
couldn't know the reprecussions his action would have in nature and
could not be doing an assuredly good thing, but rather likely being
interfering with nature and thus moving against the Tao.
4. A Taoist in today's society would disregard any hunting regulations
and do what is natural for humans to do, hunt his own food. I say this
for two reasons: first being that I am unfamiliar with hunting
regulations, and second because a true Taoist wouldn't care what the
government said he could or couldn't do, he would simply do what it
takes to survive within the laws of nature not the norms of man (ie.
grocery shopping).
5. Confucianism is focused on an individual only in the sense of
morality and how one individually fits into society.Taoism focuses on
the individual living free from the bonds of social acceptance and
conformity, and preaches observation and gaining knowledge of the
universe. Where Confucianism teaches ways for a man to properly and
morally fit into and be an acceptable member of society,Taoist schools
of thought would produce a citizen others would see as a rebel and an
outcast, Confucianism has more social advantages. But Taoism promotes
improvement of the self on a different level, and with complete
disregard to those around him, leaving him with little hinderence.
6. Many ordinary Chinese citizens probably embraced the idea of
blatantly ignoring the government, and embracing nature would not have
been seen as a bad thing. Though it may have created strife for those
governing, it probably had little to no affect on the ordinary Chinese
who didnt't buy into the Taoist ideals. Due to how open to
interpretation Taoism is, many probably adopted the ideas with anti-
establishment notions already in place, but there were probably many
Taoist who beleived they could coexist, albeit seperately, in the same
realm as those who chose to live withing society.

Aish

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1. Lao-tzu doesn't want to give the Tao a name because it is ever-
present and undefined, everlasting and unchanging. Some illustrations
of the Tao are "an eternal life force that unifies all nature" and
a force in harmony with the entire universe". Also, since Tao
literally means "way", the vision and definition could be different
for everyone.

2. Wu wei is to act in harmony with nature. A human being shouldn't
struggle against the forces of nature, but rather accept everything
that goes on in the natural world as exactly that- completely natural.
This is also the concept of following the universe, or going with the
flow.

3. I believe that if a bird's nest fell out of a tree, then a Taoist
would not replace it. First off, a bird's nest that was replaced might
not have a chance of survival anyway, since the mother might not
accept the chicks back into her brood. Second, it would be going
against wu wei, or acting in accordance with nature. If nature has
acted, it is not in a human's place to change it. This is, however, my
interpretation. Obviously, I cannot speak for every Taoist.

4. A Taoist would probably look at hunting regulations as being a good
thing, because they prevent humans from going out and killing animals
with no boundaries or restrictions. On the other hand, they probably
view hunting in itself as a man made past time and possibly look down
on it because it is not in accordance with wu wei. Something as
unnatural as a gun should not have a place in nature, disturbing the
peace of the universe.

5. Confucianism provides a strict social order for people to prescribe
to, and Taoism encourages individuality at all levels. Confucianism is
based on a strict hierarchy, whereas Taoism is lacking exactly that,
preferring to recommend observation of nature rather than attendance
of a king's court. Some good things about Confucianism is that it
shows everyone their place in society, so there is no confusion,
unlike in Taoism where the ignoring of rules is advocated. In Taoism,
however, individuality is stressed, and this is a lot better of a deal
for women and other factions that would essentially be oppressed in a
Confucian society.

6. Taoism might have encouraged the ordinary people of China to think
for themselves, something that other Chinese religions have rarely
done before. Taoism said that the people didn't have to absolutely
listen to their ruler to find themselves. The idea of wu wei and
conforming to nature would force everyone to find their own path in
conforming, and therefore would make the people think. Taoism tells
people to ignore the rules if necessary, and this includes any laws
made by the emperor. This is why Taoism could be seen as very anti-
establishment. If people interpret Taoism the wrong way, it could
almost be seen as propagating anarchy!

~Evidently, I don't sleep~

fv

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1. Lao-tzu doesm't want to name the Tao because it is an undefinable
aspect that is found in everything aroun you. To be a true Taoist one
must become one with the Tao which is to become one with nature and
all life. The Tao also exemplifies an eternal harmony in ones life.
A good illustration of the Tao is nature, because nature is a path to
becoming one with the Tao.

2. The teachings of wu wei say that one must become one with nature to
fully understand life. One must not struggle against nature's laws
but allow them to rule life on earth.

3. If a nest fell from a tree a true Taoist would ignore it because to
pick up the nest and put it back would be interfering with the laws of
nature which is against Taoist teachings. By interfering with the
laws of nature one corrupts the Tao and thus cannnot become one with
it.

4.Taoist's would not like the hunting regulations in todays society
because they would see the involvement of man as an interference of
nature and also a disruption of the Tao.

5. Taoism is about breaking away from society and freeing ones self
from all of the conformity and laws implaced by humans. Confucianism
teaches that structure in society is necessary and advises on how
things should be done within a controlled environment. Advantages of
the Tao are that it allows you to be free and live your life away from
the controlling presence of laws and social norms. Disadvantages of
the Tao are that it gives no room for structure or efficiency and by
being a Tao one forfeits the necessities of life such as a job.
Advantages of Confuciansm are that it promotes a structural society in
which people can thrive socially and economicaly. Disadvantages of
Confucianism are that it leaves no room for a person to be free of
conformity.

6.Taoism could have affected normal people in China by causing them to
leave their jobs and societies and turn to nature in search of the
Tao. This could have seriously affected Chinese economy and
infrastructure and thus could be seen as an anti-establishment
philosophy



On May 13, 8:59 am, "Mr. J." <glen.jaskelew...@rtsd.org> wrote:

Emma Burke

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1. Lao-tzu did not want to give the Tao a name because that goes
aginst the Tao's nature. Tao cannot be defined or named and has no
form, therefore cannot be given a name.

2. Wu wei is the idea of not sucutring r conforming in a society. The
concept is to flow evenly with nature and not let man-made concept and
ideals break you from nature.

3. If a Taoist saw a bird's nest fall out of a tree, a Taoist would
ignore it. This is because Taoists believe that nature needs to take
its course. As nature tkes it course, it is supposed to flowthrough
all aspects of life, according to Taoists. Therefore, it is wrong to
meddle with nature.

4.A Taoists would find hunting as a whole to be wrong because killing
animals for recreation is interupting to natural balance of life nd
death. The regulations would mot likely be viewed as an improvement by
the Taoist, but still not acceptable because it is still hunting.

5. Confuscianism is based on finding moral order in society and
finding peace for all in a society. Taoism, however, is more about the
individidual finding themselves. Taoism is about a person becomeing
one with nature and avoiding all conformitis of societies. The
advantages to Confucianism is that the follower is becoming a more
moral and better person. Another advantage is that no matter what the
followers social rank is they can become an educated gentleman. A
disadvantage is that some people may not like the filal piety aspect
of Confuscianism; they may feel that respect has to be earned and that
not all elders are the wiser. Some advantages of Taoism is that nature
becomes a part of you. The follower gets to work towards being a part
of a working, perfect planet. A disadvantage is that it is an
individual journey to become own with nature.

6. Taoism could have a great affect on people in modern-day China
because the people of China would try to avoid the conformit of the
government. But in modern China, the goverment tries to control almost
every aspect of the citizens' lives. Also, people would want to become
one with nature, but major cities are developing in China and industry
is become a large aspect of thier economy. Taoism could be seen by
some as an anti-establishment philoshpy, but I see it as more of a
philosophy in seeing the earth as a whole and working for the planet.
On May 13, 8:59 am, "Mr. J." <glen.jaskelew...@rtsd.org> wrote:

bridget

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1. Lao-tzu doesn’t give Tao a name because he does not want to
restrict how Taoists define it. He believes that Tao is eternal,
everlasting, and unchanging force that is the entire universe. If Lao-
tzu were to give Tao, a name it would limit how it was viewed and take
away from its immeasurable nature.

2. Wu Wei means one should not struggle against the natural course of
the world and should allow natural forces to act uninterrupted.

3. If a bird’s nest fell out of a tree a Taoist would have to take
into account how it fell. If the nest had fallen due to human
interference they would most likely place it back into the tree to
preserve the natural order of the world, but if they nest had fallen
because of wind or another natural phenomena the Taoist would have to
leave it on the ground in accordance with wu wei.

4. A Taoist would ignore hunting regulations himself but I think that
one would support the goal of the regulations. By making it illegal to
hunt in many areas humans are supporting the natural food chain and
stopping human from killing all of one type of animal. However if the
hunter was hunting for necessary food and not sport the Taoist would
support their goal of survival.

5. Confucianism and Taoism differ on several basic principles.
Confucianism preaches conformity to help the greater good and knowing
ones place in a society’s hierarchy. Confucianism is focused on moral
and political systems development. Taoism is mainly focused on the
individual and ones relationship to the world in general. Taoists also
encourage nonconformity and individual imagination. The Confucianism
philosophy is good for a society as a whole because it forces all
those in the society to do as they are told. Confucianism gives the
power to men and boys and creates a subservient position for women.
Taoism would be horrible if every member of a society practiced it
because no laws would be respected or created but on an individual
level Taoism offers great liberation especially for women.

6. Taoism could be seen as an antiestablishment philosophy especially
in a Confucian society because it exalts individualism and
nonconformity. Taoism probably showed the people of China that the
individual should not always be subservient to the group and that
nature should be respected and valued.


Spattni

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1. Lao-tzu did not give the Tao a name because its an eternal,
everlasting, and unchanging force that unifies all nature. Therefore
it is present in everything, giving it no form, and making it
undefinable. Since Taoism's goal is to be one with nature it would be
fitting that its best illustrations occur in nature. The water flowing
in a river, the leaves on a tree, or the rocks that sit at the bottom
of a stream.

2. The principle of wu wei is to act in peaceful accordance with
nature. Really, it is to live in nature to a point that your mind and
the natural surroundings around you are indistinguishable. There is no
attempt to resist the power of the universe, but to blend and become
apart of it.

3. I think that a true Taoist would leave the nest as it is, and not
interfere. They would let nature run its course by allowing for the
nest to stay there, and it can be noted that this would be a test for
a practicing Taoist. Especially if the nest fell because of man made
creations, should nature run its course even if its been corrupted by
man or should an intervention occur to fix what man has broken?

4. It must first be said that a Taoist would be absolutely horrified
that hunting is still allowed in our world. People are shooting the
universe life force that exists in all creatures, and presenting it as
a prize or object of pride. The Taoist opinion would that the hunting
regulations are not strict or enforced enough. If people are allowed
to get away with illegal hunting, let alone legal hunting, then they
are destroying the very surroundings that form the Tao.

5. They differed in the way that both philosophies focused on
different parts of the individual's life. Confucianism focused on the
structure of society and tradition, while the Tao concentrated on the
individual's non social matters which were mainly their belief in a
divine force. Confucianism's advantages included giving everyone a
place in society, a sense of order, and a stable foundation in which
to base your moral values. This also reveals some of its faults, such
as discouraging differences, no uniqueness, and no freedom to think
outside of the box. With Taoism it encouraged the individual to think
for them self, to explore the world around them, and embrace nature
and its universal life force. Taoism's disadvantages were that it did
not conform to society's rules creating problems for the individual
and its abstract thoughts became less appealing then rational
thinking.

6. Taoism forced an individual to observe the world around them, and
from there think about their place in the world and see the flaws of
man. Therefore it can be seen as an antiestablishment philosophy
because it encourages the rejection of society and individual thinking
that may not be encouraged by the current government. It goes against
man and sides with nature therefore in any instance Taoism will always
be with nature and will never encourage man's customs and traditions.

On May 13, 8:59 am, "Mr. J." <glen.jaskelew...@rtsd.org> wrote:

Kevin Xiao

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1. Lao-tzu did not want to give the Tao a name because the Tao has no
one defined form because it is present in everything around us. The
Tao can be described as all of the forces in the Universe

2. Wu wei is the idea of going with the flow. One who practices Wu wei
should just follow nature and what it offers, embracing it, rather
than trying to change what is already there.

3. If a bird's nest fell out of a tree, a Taoist would leave it there
because the forces of nature intended for the nest to fall out of the
tree. Putting it back would mean interfering with the natural forces
and going against the basic ideas of Taoism.

4. A Taoist would most likely not like hunting itself, let alone
hunting regulations. Hunting itself disrupts the balance of nature
because it man does not absolutely need to kill an animal, there
should be no reason for him to kill it.

5. Taoism and Confucianism differ in that Confucianism focuses on
society and order within society. It sets rules for how people should
behave towards one another and provides order and morals in the social
and political system. An advantage to this is that there is order in
society and rules to be followed so that there is not chaos. However,
one disadvantage to Confucianism is that one cannot break society's
laws and may find him or herself ignorant of some Taoist ideas such as
nature and freedom. Taoism focuses on nature, freedom, and harmony
with the forces of nature. It advises that one ignores rules if they
get in the way of the natural order of things. This may lead to
conflict with society for those who completely ignore rules. However,
Taoism allows its followers to be free and open minded, which is an
advantage.

6. I think ordinary people in China may have viewed Taoism as an odd
religion or one that encouraged law breaking because of its ideas
about nature and ignoring society's laws. Many ordinary people in
China needed social and political order and would not be able live in
a society without rules like Taoism might promote.


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