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Mr. J.

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Oct 21, 2009, 8:09:43 AM10/21/09
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Define protectionism. Should the US government become more
"protectionist" when it comes to world trade? In addition to some of
the examples used in the book, please use some other more recent
examples to help support your answer.

Finally, after viewing the political cartoons below, descibe each in
your own words. We will discuss the cartoons in class as well.

http://www.inkcinct.com.au/Web/CARTOONS/2009/2009-062--return-to-protectionism.gif

http://assets.comics.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/200000/90000/6000/000/296006/296006.full.gif

Emma Burke

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Oct 21, 2009, 6:52:10 PM10/21/09
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Protectionism is the economic policy of restraining trade between
states, through methods such as tariffs on imported goods, restrictive
quotas, and a variety of other restrictive government regulations
designed to discourage imports, and prevent foreign take-over of local
markets and companies. This policy is also called anti-globalization
and is against free-trade. I do not think that the US government
should become more protectionist because trade a main way that
countries keep relations. When countries trade together, they ally in
the future and are kept on good terms. In that same way, a country can
make a stance against another country by refusing to trade with them.
An example of this is the trade embargo with Cuba. Also, Analysts
believe that keeping a free trade market is overall better for the
growth of the global economy.

In the first cartoon, There is two men in a American government office
saying to buy American goods. And in the Chinese government, the men
are saying to pirate American dvds and cds. Above says "Return to
Protectionism". This is implying if America becomes more protectionist
that the other countries are going to find ways to sell American goods
anyway.

In the second cartoon, Obama and Uncle Sam (representing America) are
driving out of a parking garage that represents the way to free trade.
At the exit there is a sign saying "Caution do not back up. Severe
tire damage". This is implying that if Obama decides to support free
trade that there is no going back.

On Oct 21, 8:09 am, "Mr. J." <glen.jaskelew...@rtsd.org> wrote:
> Define protectionism.  Should the US government become more
> "protectionist" when it comes to world trade?  In addition to some of
> the examples used in the book, please use some other more recent
> examples to help support your answer.
>
> Finally, after viewing the political cartoons below, descibe each in
> your own words.  We will discuss the cartoons in class as well.
>
> http://www.inkcinct.com.au/Web/CARTOONS/2009/2009-062--return-to-prot...
>
> http://assets.comics.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/200...

Kim Sass

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Oct 21, 2009, 8:25:34 PM10/21/09
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Protectionism is when a country protects developing domestic industries from foreign competition through quotas and other restrictive tariffs on imports. Protectionism also stops other countries from taking over regional companies. I don't think that the US should use more protectionism because keeping the markets open for trade is good for the economy because it allows easy trade between countries, and the US depends on a lot of foreign imports in order to function (for example it's hard to find a product that isn't made in Taiwan or China). Plus, there are a lot of American companies in other countries (such as McDonald's being all around the world) it really wouldn't be fair of us to restrict foreign countries from setting up their companies here, too. I think that the economy is just an idea, and if the people think the economy is good, it's good and if they think the economy is bad, it'll be bad. Since Obama has become president people have been having more faith in the economy because Obama gives them hope for change, so I think no matter what we do, the economy will get better as it has during the past few months. People will invest more in stocks, and they will start buying more stuff once they get finacially stable which some households have already begun to do. Think about it; economy is a noun but it's not a person, place or thing, therefore it's an idea (the same goes with government)

The cartoon is trying to say that no matter what America does, China will still try to put "American" products on the shelves. It depicts an american man saying "Buy American" while a Chinese man says "Pirate American" the title of the cartoon is Return to Protectionism. (I'd write more, but I really didn't understand this cartoon.)  
 
This cartoon shows Obama and Uncle Sam trying to cross into free trade but there are tire spikes that will hurt their tires which seems to be implying that if America decides to go through with free trade, it will damage the wheels of economy, that make the economy work. It also has a sign that says one way, implying also that if America decides to do free trade, you could never turn back and change direction.

Erik Hotaling

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Oct 21, 2009, 8:31:06 PM10/21/09
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Protectionism is the actions a government takes to restrict trade with
other countries to protect it's citizens and small businesses from
being boxed out by large foreign companies or skipped over for cheep
foreign labor. Governments use tactics like tariffs, taxes, duties,
quotas, cash subsidies and tax credit in protectionism. I believe that
the U.S should become more protectionist because if we don't secure
the jobs of our citizens then it will be extremely hard for our
country to move froward out of recession better than we went in. I
think that before we start to trade with other countries we need to
set a good foundation. We need to get people employed and new
businesses started so that jobs are secured for the future. Then once
we have a stable economy with people working and earning money then we
can look to other countries and begin trading with other countries.

In the first comic their are two American business men standing in an
office and the one is saying "buy American" in the other their are two
Chinese business men and one is saying "pirate American" on the top of
the comic it says "return to protectionism...". This comic is trying
to say that if we go back to protectionism then it will not benefit us
because other countries will still steal our technology.

In the second comic their is a car that sat U.S.A on it and has Uncle
Sam in it the tires of the car are flat because it has just driven
over a tire slasher which is under a sign that says free trade with a
one way sign. This implies that free trade is a one way street so one
you open your markets to other countries you can't close them because
if you do it will hurt you economy drastically.

Shahrin Islam

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Oct 21, 2009, 8:41:59 PM10/21/09
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Protectionism is the act of securing a nation's economy by giving
priority to domestic products and labor/jobs/people. I think that the
U.S. government should become protectionist to some extent but I don't
think full on protectionism is the way to go. I think protectionism is
needed to fix the unemployment rates which are drastically hurting our
economy. I think that American companies (ex: Levi's) should reserve
job opportunities and give priority to American citizens first because
we are the biggest consumers and that's where majority of their
revenues come from. If Americans have to cut down their spending due
to unemployment, it's going to hurt them in turn. But then again,
trade is one of the main ways to maintain positive international
relations, for example NAFTA (duty free trade between Mexico/Canada/
U.S.). Open trade also allows for economies to grow because then they
have a wider spectrum. I think that we should also try to raise
revenues from overseas as well, instead of just our own. I'm not sure
whether protectionism will be the ray of light in our economic slump
but I think the U.S. needs to start being a little more conservative
with their trade/economic policies.

The first political cartoon is showing how whether the U.S. promotes
domestic products and protectionism, other nations, or China in this
case, will still be able to get the sell/export products for a more
"economic" price. Being protectionist won't improve our economy since
there will always be the more economic choice, thanks to cheap labor,
poor conditions, etc. It's not boosting our economy but theirs.

The second political cartoon is showing how if we follow the free
trade route, we have dire consequences to face ahead and there's no
way back once we head on that route. This is signified by the "one
way" sign and "do not back up" sign. The flat tire and "caution!
severetire damage" sign signify the dire consequences that come along
with going the free trade route.

On Oct 21, 8:09 am, "Mr. J." <glen.jaskelew...@rtsd.org> wrote:
> Define protectionism.  Should the US government become more
> "protectionist" when it comes to world trade?  In addition to some of
> the examples used in the book, please use some other more recent
> examples to help support your answer.
>
> Finally, after viewing the political cartoons below, descibe each in
> your own words.  We will discuss the cartoons in class as well.
>
> http://www.inkcinct.com.au/Web/CARTOONS/2009/2009-062--return-to-prot...
>
> http://assets.comics.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/200...

Aish

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Oct 21, 2009, 10:48:45 PM10/21/09
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Protectionism is policy of imposing duties or quotas on imports in
order to protect home industries from overseas competition. I believe
that for now, the US should impose protectionist measures to save our
own economy. Doing so will encourage people to "Buy American" rather
than using their purchasing power to increase other countries' GDP.
This would also encourage companies that have moved operations abroad
(for the cheap labor and the lack of safety regulations in third-world
countries) to move back to the US. This would in turn create jobs,
which would boost the economy. There is also the ethical issue to
consider. When products are made abroad, it is sometimes hard to cross
check the conditions under which the product was manufactured. When
factories are in the US though, it is easier to maintain records of
companies and the method in which goods are produced. We have laws
against child labor and unsafe working conditions in the US. Buying
American could ensure that the things we buy are not made by young
kids under dangerous working conditions in other countries. Finally, a
recent example to support protectionism is Obama's tire tariff. China
was "dumping" their tires in the US, which means that they were
selling tires for a really low price that was made possible because of
Chinese government subsidies. This made sure that US companies
couldn't compete with them. With this tariff, people will buy more US
made tires and US tire companies will get a boost. This will also
prevent China from trying such a measure again.

The first cartoon shows the Americans encouraging each other to "Buy
American". On the other side, China is saying, "Pirate American",
which shows that they are benefiting from pirating copyrighted
American intellectual property. This ad seems for protectionism,
saying that if we don't implement such measures, China will come in
and offer the same products for much less (pirated CD's and DVD's will
obviously not cost as much as the real thing).

The second cartoon shows America's interaction with the free market.
The sign sternly warns drivers not to back up or to suffer sever tire
damage. However, you can clearly see America's tires are all flat.
This shows that the US has been promoting free trade all along, but
that it is now starting to implement protectionist measures. This
seems to be against the whole idea of protectionism, as it seems to
portray Americans as a bunch of hypocrites for supporting free trade
one moment, and then condemning it the next.

On Oct 21, 8:09 am, "Mr. J." <glen.jaskelew...@rtsd.org> wrote:
> Define protectionism.  Should the US government become more
> "protectionist" when it comes to world trade?  In addition to some of
> the examples used in the book, please use some other more recent
> examples to help support your answer.
>
> Finally, after viewing the political cartoons below, descibe each in
> your own words.  We will discuss the cartoons in class as well.
>
> http://www.inkcinct.com.au/Web/CARTOONS/2009/2009-062--return-to-prot...
>
> http://assets.comics.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/200...

Amy

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Oct 21, 2009, 11:05:45 PM10/21/09
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Protectionism is an economic policy that hinders trade with other
countries so as to assist domestic jobs. I don't know the extent to
which the U.S. is protectionist right now, so it's hard to have an
educated opinion on the topic. However, I think it's safe to say that
I don't think that we should be protectionist, but some kind of boost
to American-made goods wouldn't hurt. We need to help foster the
global economy, especially because of how interdependent globalization
has made us. As the book pointed out, our economic breakdown that
began in 2007 quickly became worldwide. The same applies for positive
things; if we help support the global economy by not supporting to
protectionism that can have a positive affect in many places. However,
buying american is a boost to our own economy, and we need to keep
that in mind. For example, if more people had wanted cars from GM and
Chrysler, it's possible that those companies wouldn't have tanked in
the way that they did. To encourage people to buy american, american
goods need to improve their quality so that they can truly compete on
a global scale. If we improve our products, we can thrive while
avoiding protectionist measures.

The first political cartoon shows an American man suggesting to "buy
american" and a Chinese man suggesting to "pirate american", all under
the heading "return to protectionism...." The cartoon is very simply
stating that if we resort to protectionism other countries will still
be able to get ahold of our goods, and it will defeat the purpose.

The second cartoon shows Obama and Uncle Sam in a car representing
America. They have just backed up out of a route labeled 'free trade'
and the spikes have made their tires go flat. Uncle Sam is staring at
the spikes in shock, like he didn't expect for them to be there. It
seems to symbolize that America has tried to back out of free trade
and it has injured us and our economy greatly, without us being truly
prepared for it.

On Oct 21, 8:09 am, "Mr. J." <glen.jaskelew...@rtsd.org> wrote:
> Define protectionism.  Should the US government become more
> "protectionist" when it comes to world trade?  In addition to some of
> the examples used in the book, please use some other more recent
> examples to help support your answer.
>
> Finally, after viewing the political cartoons below, descibe each in
> your own words.  We will discuss the cartoons in class as well.
>
> http://www.inkcinct.com.au/Web/CARTOONS/2009/2009-062--return-to-prot...
>
> http://assets.comics.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/200...

bridget

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Oct 21, 2009, 11:44:02 PM10/21/09
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A protectionist is country is one that does not have free trade and
encourages, by use the use of tariffs or restrictive quotas, it’s
citizens to buy domestically made goods. This type of country would
not support free trade and focus only on the good of its own
manufacturers rather than its consumers. I do not think that the US
should become more protectionist because we already rely heavily on
imported goods and reducing the amount or increasing to cost of those
goods could severely hurt our economy. Adopting this type of policy
could also hurt our diplomatic relations with the major exporters such
as China which is another consequence that would hurt our country in
the long run. The only time such a policy should be used is in
response to a threat from a foreign exporter and we increase the
tariffs as economic punishment. However without becoming a completely
protectionist nation I think to US could benefit from encouraging US
companies to stay in the US and not move overseas with tax breaks.

The first cartoon shows two American businessmen saying buy American
while on the other side it shows two Chinese businessmen saying Pirate
American with the phase “Return to Protectionism…” above both of the
groups’ heads. I think that this is trying to show that even if the US
government was to return a protectionist mentality the US economy will
still decline because it will only force the rest of the world to
steal and pirate American goods rather than buy them.

The second cartoon shows a car that has driven through an opening that
says “Free Trade” and a car that has driven through and then reversed.
When the car reversed it’s tires were punctured by the spikes in to
doorway. This cartoon is showing how at first the US accelerated
through the “door” to free trade but then we changed direction and
tried to become protectionist once again and it has only harmed us
even further.

Sibtain Bokhari

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Oct 22, 2009, 5:30:25 PM10/22/09
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Protectionism are the acts of promoting the sale of domestic goods and
work, rather than imported goods and overseas work. I do and do not
think that the US should become more protectionist. i do think this
because then more money would go into our economy, and more jobs would
be available. however, i also do not think so because we need to
purchase goods from foreign countries because they are what usually
the people want. also, by stopping the purchase of foreign goods, we
may create bad relations with the countries that we have halted
purchases from. Some examples are how the US government is offering
you extra money if you trade in your car for a new one, and how they
want companies to stop foreign production, and resume with domestic
production.

The first cartoon shows an american saying "buy american", and a
chinese man saying "pirate american". what this means is that even if
we become protectionist, the foreign markets will still be making the
same goods as we are, and then they would import it into the country.
it would also be cheaper, so in a way, they are undoing our
protectionism.

The second cartoon shows Obama and Uncle Sam driving in a parking
garage, but they have backed right back in from the outside. The
outside is free trade, so this cartoon shows that Obama and america
are backing away from free trade.

On Oct 21, 8:09 am, "Mr. J." <glen.jaskelew...@rtsd.org> wrote:
> Define protectionism.  Should the US government become more
> "protectionist" when it comes to world trade?  In addition to some of
> the examples used in the book, please use some other more recent
> examples to help support your answer.
>
> Finally, after viewing the political cartoons below, descibe each in
> your own words.  We will discuss the cartoons in class as well.
>
> http://www.inkcinct.com.au/Web/CARTOONS/2009/2009-062--return-to-prot...
>
> http://assets.comics.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/200...

Sam

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Oct 22, 2009, 6:43:04 PM10/22/09
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Protectionism is the collection of activities a country does to ensure
that its residents buy domestic goods instead of imports and its
employers keep jobs at home rather than abroad. I do not believe that
the United States should become a full protectionist country, but i do
not think that purchasing goods and keeping jobs in the bad thing, in
fact i think it is a very good thing and think the United States
should try to do that as much as possible, but i think becoming fully
protectionist would hurt the United States. By continuing to recieve
imports from other countries and purchase goods from other countries,
it will continue to help stimulate the global economy which will only
help the United States more in the long run versus only helping out
our own economy. The United States relies heavily on many foreign
imports, such as oil, and without them it would put a burden on the
United States, and make things worse because of our lesser amount of
that certain good. When the economy started to fall in late 2007, it
did not just happen to the United States, it happened all over the
world. So if we continue to help stimulate the world's economy, it
will rise and so will ours. I think it is extremely important to
continue to recieve foreign imports, but also i think that we need to
take some pretectionist matters to hand. It is very important that the
United States try and purchase as much American made goods as
possible, such as cars, electronics, and even jobs. Employers need to
hire united States citizens rather than illegal immigrants to give
jobs to the United States and put money back in the hands of our
citizen which would help out our economy greatly, because the more
money people have, the more money they will spend, the quicker the
economy rises. The united states also has to continue to export goods
because if we stop, who is to say that other countries around the
world wouldn't stop?

The first political cartoon is saying that the UNited States should
not return to protectionism because even if we export do not our own
goods countries around the world, such as China, will still manage to
get ahold of them and sell them at cheaper prices. So returning to
protectionism is almost pointless.

The second cartoon dipicts both President Obama and Uncle Sam in a car
that says 'USA' on the side and they are infront of a tunnel that is '
free trade' and their tires are slashed because they went into it and
came back out. This is trying to say that free trade is a one way
optionion and if the UNited States enters free trade, they cannot back
our of it.
On Oct 21, 8:09 am, "Mr. J." <glen.jaskelew...@rtsd.org> wrote:
> Define protectionism.  Should the US government become more
> "protectionist" when it comes to world trade?  In addition to some of
> the examples used in the book, please use some other more recent
> examples to help support your answer.
>
> Finally, after viewing the political cartoons below, descibe each in
> your own words.  We will discuss the cartoons in class as well.
>
> http://www.inkcinct.com.au/Web/CARTOONS/2009/2009-062--return-to-prot...
>
> http://assets.comics.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/200...

John Li

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Oct 22, 2009, 8:04:40 PM10/22/09
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Protectionism is the economic practice of protecting developing
countries from tariffs and quotas on imports to reduce the influence
of other countries in that developing countries economy, and to
prevent the countries that trade with them to take over their economy.
I don't believe that the United States should be protective over other
countries, mainly because it is essentially the antithesis of
Globalization, which I believe to be a good thing. The massive web of
trade throughout the world is what keeps the world economy going, and
to stop that for the benefit of developing countries isn't going to
help the world as a whole. It's just going to restrict trade from some
countries to others, which restricts the global economy as well. In
addition to this, when the other countries sell products to the
developing countries, it's stimulating the developing countries'
economy, which benefits them, but not the country selling the
products. In addition to this, the great web of trade aids all
countries to have better relations with each other-- we are trading
with Egypt and Israel and giving them aid, which gives us a better
relationship with that country-- which is yet another reason why the
big web of trade should stay open.

The first comic shows that even if protectionism happened, many
countries like China would still find ways to sell American goods,
mostly in illegal ways. This would hurt the US economy, because China
would still be selling the US goods, but probably at a much cheaper
price than the Americans. In a nutshell, this is saying that
protectionism isn't going to help anything, because countries can do
illegal things to achieve the goals they want to.

The second comic shows Obama and Uncle Sam in a car with completely
punctured tires. This is implying that Obama wants to support free
trade, and that it is both the wrong choice to make and a choice that
would hurt us dearly. It's shown to be something that you can't undo
after it is done, and it is something that Obama seems to regret now
that he's done it.

alyssa norton

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Oct 22, 2009, 8:27:30 PM10/22/09
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Protectionism is the theory or practice of shielding a country's
domestic industries from foreign competition by taxing imports.
Protectionism is often considered anti-free trade and I do not believe
that the US should become more protectionist. Free trade supports a
large and competitive open market, entrepreneurship, and prevents
retaliations from foreign markets. A large market allows consumers to
have a vast amount of products to choose from. Not only does it give a
plethora of products but the competitiveness forces companies to keep
their prices low and keep modernizing their technology to keep up with
the new and always improving products of foreign markets.
Entrepreneurship is encouraged with free trade because it allows for
more investing and people feel safer because they know they do not
have to fear the government cutting access to certain markets. Lastly,
is that free-trade prevents retaliations from foreign markets. Many of
those foreign markets come from up and coming countries, where it is
crucial that the US remain in good relations with. Adding tariffs and
other protectionist techniques to their products will make them harbor
resentment towards us.

The first cartoon also exhibits the negative affects of protectionism.
On the cartoon, two sides are displayed one being the Americans and
one being the Chines (shown by each respective countries flags. The
title of the cartoon says "RETURN TO PROTECTIONISM...". The Americans
are discussing on their side saying, "BUY AMERICAN". They are saying
this because they believe protectionist measures will force people to
buy American products, therefore boosting the American economy. But on
the other side, the Chinese are discussing and saying "PIRATE
AMERICAN", while holding a box labeled "CDs and DVDs". This shows a
prediction that if the US enforces protectionism, then other markets
will take US products (such as CDs and DVDs) and obtain them
illegally, which will hurt the US rather than help it, even though
that is the point of protectionism.

The second cartoon is showing that the US cannot back out of free
trade now that they are a part of it. It shows a car labeled, "USA"
with two passengers riding in it, shown to be Barack Obama and Uncle
Sam. It looks as if they are in a parking garage close to an
entranceway. The entranceway has a sign and arrow above it that says,
"FREE TRADE". Signs surrounding the entranceway say "ONE WAY" and
"CAUTION-DO NOT BACK UP-SEVERE TIRE DAMAGE". There also appears to be
one of those machines that punctures your tires when you drive the
wrong way. The US's tires are also flat and clearly damaged,
suggesting that the US has tried to "back out" of free trade.This
cartoon shows that the US has already become a part of free trade, and
they cannot try to back out of it or become against it with
protectionism measures. It shows that the cartoonist or person behind
the cartoon believed that the US trying to start involving
protectionism more will only damage the country (shows this physically
with the tire damage). Obviously the person who created the cartoon
was against protectionism.

abol...@yahoo.com

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Oct 22, 2009, 9:04:29 PM10/22/09
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Protectionism is the defensive policy in which a country restricts
trade with other countries through tariffs or quotas to preserve and
protect local companies and small business by eliminating competition.
I think that we should become more protectionist because we are in our
economic recession and protectionism will be one way to help. If we
protect our US companies and jobs from external trade then we will
have more employed citizens and US companies will profit more,
resulting in more money for our government. Protectionism will also
ensure that we are aware of the quality of the products we are buying
and what type of labor was put into it. However, I think that once we
are out of the recession we should lighten the protectionism
restrictions so that we can promote some globalization in a quantity
that helps the world while not destroying our domestic industries. I
think that if we become more protectionist right now we should not
stop free trade and we should still continue to export goods and
purchase from other countries, but while we do that, we should ensure
that our business is still profiting. Free trade and our income from
exported goods are also important to our economy, possibly even as
important as our industries' incomes. Within the past few years some
of the car industries have been suffering from the recession,
including GM and Ford, and protectionism could have helped.

In the first cartoon it shows one side with the American men saying to
buy American goods and the Chinese men on the other side are saying
that they should pirate American goods. On the top it says return to
protectionism. What it is trying to say is that even if we become more
protectionist other countries will still find a way to pirate our
goods and sell them.

In the second cartoon shows Uncle Sam and Obama in a car labeled US
going through a passage that says free trade. It also has a one way
sign and a do not back up sign. This cartoon is giving the message
that free trade is a one way path and that there are bad consequences
for backing out of it. This is shown by their flat tires that got
popped from "backing up" from the free trade route.

On Oct 21, 8:09 am, "Mr. J." <glen.jaskelew...@rtsd.org> wrote:
> Define protectionism.  Should the US government become more
> "protectionist" when it comes to world trade?  In addition to some of
> the examples used in the book, please use some other more recent
> examples to help support your answer.
>
> Finally, after viewing the political cartoons below, descibe each in
> your own words.  We will discuss the cartoons in class as well.
>
> http://www.inkcinct.com.au/Web/CARTOONS/2009/2009-062--return-to-prot...
>
> http://assets.comics.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/200...

sami

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Oct 22, 2009, 9:14:27 PM10/22/09
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Protectionism is a trade policy in which a country takes measures to
increase its exports and decrease its imports. Under protectionism, a
country instates tariffs and quotas in the hopes that they will
decrease the consumption of foreign goods in the U.S. and increase
U.S. manufactured products. Another protectionist method is to
subsidize businesses that don’t outsource jobs to other countries.
This is meant to help fight unemployment.
I don’t think that the U.S. should become more protectionist when it
comes to world trade. Although some emphasize the fact that
protectionism can protect American jobs, they fail to take into
consideration the fact that protectionism would result in retaliation
by other countries. If the U.S. puts tariffs on certain countries,
those countries will simply respond by instituting tariffs of their
own against the U.S., thus hurting U.S. exporting businesses and
possibly deepening our recession. The resulting trade war would leave
both countries worse off economically than they started, and would
hurt the consumers who buy foreign products. The problems with
protectionism can be seen by recalling how the U.S. restricted imports
from Europe in the 1930’s, only to receive a retaliation of
restrictions that contributed to the Great Depression.
In the first political cartoon there are two American officials
implementing protectionism and two Chinese people pirating American
goods. This message of this cartoon is that other countries don’t buy
our products anyway, so there is no threat of retaliation if we use
protectionism.
The second cartoon shows Uncle Sam and Obama driving a car that has
just had a flat tire from driving backwards over a tire-damaging grate
in a one way lane labeled “protectionism”. The message of the cartoon
is that protectionism isn’t practical in a global economy. Once you
enter free trade you cannot restrict trade again because it would do
more damage than good.


On Oct 21, 8:09 am, "Mr. J." <glen.jaskelew...@rtsd.org> wrote:
> Define protectionism.  Should the US government become more
> "protectionist" when it comes to world trade?  In addition to some of
> the examples used in the book, please use some other more recent
> examples to help support your answer.
>
> Finally, after viewing the political cartoons below, descibe each in
> your own words.  We will discuss the cartoons in class as well.
>
> http://www.inkcinct.com.au/Web/CARTOONS/2009/2009-062--return-to-prot...
>
> http://assets.comics.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/200...

James

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Oct 22, 2009, 9:36:54 PM10/22/09
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Protectionism is the collection of activities that a country does to
make sure that residents buy domestic goods, and help keep jobs at
home rather than abroad. This includes tariffs, quotas, subsidies,
and tax credits. I think that relying on protectionism is a fine line
to walk. On the one hand, making imports more expensive will make
consumers buy domestic goods, which keeps workers employed in the US,
which helps the economy. But on the other hand, consumers will
respond to the price increases by buying less, which will put other
jobs out of business, hurting the economy. I don’t think that
protectionism should be reverted to unless we get into a really bad
state economically. In the end, it seems that it would hurt us more
than help us unless we are struggling profusely.

In the first cartoon, there is an american businessman telling
somebody to buy american goods. There is also a chineese businessman
telling somebody to pirate american goods. I think that this means
that even if we start becomming more protectionistic, other countries
are still going to find a way to sell their products in our country.

In the second cartoon, the author depicts the doorway leading towards
free trade, with no way to go backwards. But Obama drove the car
backwards with uncle sam, and the tires on the USA car popped. I
think this means that now that we have begun the practice of free
trade, there is no way to go back and change the policies.

Spattni

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Oct 22, 2009, 9:43:48 PM10/22/09
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Protectionism is a country's ability to implement a policy that
allows its small businesses and domestic trade in general to be more
competitive with foreign companies, and other countries' cheaper
imports. This is done mainly through tariffs and subsidies, which
increase the price of foreign imports and give surplus money to
countries. American businesses can then sell their products cheaply,
without their financially stretching themselves. I do not think the
U.S. should become more "protectionist" because the consequences that
could follow, thanks to globalization and free trade, would be
devastating. The U.S is the biggest importer and second largest
exporter of goods, and arguably a core player of globalization. The
implementation of a more "protectionist" policy would put tariffs on
foreign imports, crippling smaller and larger countries such as India,
and African countries that depend on the selling of these imports. The
U.S. would also lose out again because if they become more
protectionist, countries will follow that suit, and backfire leaving
the U.S. with declining exports. The U.S. is also the a part of the
core of globalization, and its slow withdrawal as a major role on the
globe, could wreck; trade agreements that the WTO binds them too,
damage various countries GDPs being the largest importer (China),
encourage this isolationism and consequently cripple the Global
Economy. More harm the help can only come out of protectionist
policies.

Cartoon 1: This cartoon, is pretending to contrast the two countries
(U.S. and China) through the sale of goods. Though the contrast
purposely falls flat when you see the speech bubbles, with U.S. saying
'Buy American' and China just replying 'Pirate American'. This
resembles two sides, first that the it's a pointless for the U.S. to
turn to protectionism because countries will get their products onto
American shelves regardless. Second, the other countries depend on the
U.S. and protectionism will cripple everyone in the end.



On Oct 21, 8:09 am, "Mr. J." <glen.jaskelew...@rtsd.org> wrote:
> Define protectionism.  Should the US government become more
> "protectionist" when it comes to world trade?  In addition to some of
> the examples used in the book, please use some other more recent
> examples to help support your answer.
>
> Finally, after viewing the political cartoons below, descibe each in
> your own words.  We will discuss the cartoons in class as well.
>
> http://www.inkcinct.com.au/Web/CARTOONS/2009/2009-062--return-to-prot...
>
> http://assets.comics.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/200...

Spattni

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Oct 22, 2009, 9:50:34 PM10/22/09
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Sorry forgot Cartoon 2:

Cartoon 2: This cartoon represents the risks America is talking with
free trade, this proven through Uncle Sam's worried look at the tire
spikes and the one way sign. The one way sign signals the no return
point, and any attempt to return as the sign on the right shows, means
that we can be severely damaged. Now if one does try to track back to
protectionist policies, then you will have your tires popped,
representing U.S. economy turmoil.

On Oct 21, 8:09 am, "Mr. J." <glen.jaskelew...@rtsd.org> wrote:
> Define protectionism.  Should the US government become more
> "protectionist" when it comes to world trade?  In addition to some of
> the examples used in the book, please use some other more recent
> examples to help support your answer.
>
> Finally, after viewing the political cartoons below, descibe each in
> your own words.  We will discuss the cartoons in class as well.
>
> http://www.inkcinct.com.au/Web/CARTOONS/2009/2009-062--return-to-prot...
>
> http://assets.comics.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/200...

Mike Stavrakos

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Oct 22, 2009, 9:52:40 PM10/22/09
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Protectionism is the variety of strategies that countries practice in
order to ensure that jobs stay in the country and aren't lost of
shipped over seas, and to promote the purchase of domestic products
rather than imports. Protectionism is used in order to keep domestic
jobs by promoting the purchase of products made domestically, rather
than purchasing cheaper, and often times of lesser quality, imports.
I believe that it is important to "buy American" in order to support
local production companies, rather than resorting to cheaper imports,
because it supports the increase of domestic jobs, and keeps money
inside the country. With that said, however, I do not believe that
the US government should become exclusively protectionist or even go
so far as to pass protectionist legislature. While it is being seen
around the world in other countries, I feel that it is important to
partake in a national economy where all the countries depend on each
other. Although, I think it is still important to promote the
purchase of domestic goods that aren't being exported because of other
countries' protectionist tendencies, and to avoid outsourcing of jobs.
There are also exceptions to this feeling, however, including the US
governments trade embargo with Cuba, which is less about protectionism
and more about the US government showing their disapproval of the
Cuban government.

The first political cartoon depicts two scenes, one of a corporation
in the US and one of a similar seeming corporation in China. The
caption says "return to protectionism....". In the US scene, the
leader of the corporation is saying "Buy American", while in the China
scene, which is very similar to the US scene even down to the pattern
of the leaders' neckties, the leader of the corporation is saying
"Pirate American". This is saying how if all countries return to
protectionist measures, China will simply keep copying American goods
and practices, and profit from it within their own country.

In the second political cartoon, two men, seemingly Obama and Uncle
Sam, are in a car labeled USA, which has backed out of the entryway
labeled "Free Trade" and run over tire treadles. There were clear
signs indicating that once you enter the area labeled Free Trade, you
are not able to leave or reverse your actions otherwise serious and
debilitating consequences will occur. The cartoon is showing that
Obama has attempted to remove the country from free trade by getting
the government deeply involved in regulation, but it has only made the
country, in this case the car, worse.

On Oct 21, 8:09 am, "Mr. J." <glen.jaskelew...@rtsd.org> wrote:
> Define protectionism.  Should the US government become more
> "protectionist" when it comes to world trade?  In addition to some of
> the examples used in the book, please use some other more recent
> examples to help support your answer.
>
> Finally, after viewing the political cartoons below, descibe each in
> your own words.  We will discuss the cartoons in class as well.
>
> http://www.inkcinct.com.au/Web/CARTOONS/2009/2009-062--return-to-prot...
>
> http://assets.comics.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/200...

pizz...@aol.com

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Oct 22, 2009, 9:54:35 PM10/22/09
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Protectionism is the act of a nation taking forceful measures to support nationally made products, such as setting up trade restrictions on foreign products. The US should not resort to protectionism. The higher you stand the harder you fall, so yeah, we did take a big hit, but every country was hit in one way or another. Limiting US trade with other countries does not help the US increase on its exports. In fact, for better or for worse, the US is a leader among other nations, and US making restrictions would likely lead to other nations making similar restrictions. That is definitely not a progressive movement. An advantage the US has in this competitive global economy is its technological advancements. Rather than isolate our economy thru “protective” actions, we need to encourage global growth. Instead of targeting US citizens, the US needs to start producing products other nations’ companies and even governments want. How do local companies gain business? They have products with the best quality, products with the most competitive prices, and products that you can’t get anywhere else. I suggest countries act the same way. During the golden age people thought there was nothing left to discover. Since then the first airplanes, textile mills, and computers were built. The government may have had very little to do with the discoveries of each, but here are a few they did fund: the atom bomb, space exploration, and medical research.  Government funded discoveries not only encourage global advances, but they open up jobs for the educated and end in the creation of a product or information that can only be obtain from one source. I fully understand the need to protect our economy, but I provide this example as an alternative that may be considered a more progressive approach, because a business only needs protection if it can’t keep up with the others.
           
            The first cartoon is an American company saying “Buy American goods,” which pretty much sums up the protectionist idea. While the other half shows a Chinese company saying “Pirate American goods”. The second half is a little bit foggy with what it’s trying to depict, and there are most likely many ways to interpret. In fact I’m not even sure if the cartoonist is for or against protectionism, which is defiantly a bad sign, but a possible meaning could be while we’re busy trying to get our own country to buy our products other countries are having no problem selling our products.
            The second cartoon shows the one way road to free trade, and Uncle Sam and President Obama seem to have missed the sign saying backing up will cause extreme damage, because the US-mobile has flat tires. This cartoon mocks how America was a key player in getting free trade up and running and now it has really backfired on us. The attempt to remove ourselves from the global economy is not working out and may even be making things worse.

Hannah

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Oct 22, 2009, 9:55:59 PM10/22/09
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Protectionism is "the collectoin of activites a country does to ensure
that its residents buy domestic goods instead of imports, and that its
employers keep jobs at home rather than abroad. Protectionism includes
tariffs, taxes, duties, quotas, cash subsides and tax credits. It's
basically against globalization and free trade. In my opinion, the US
government should not become more "protectionist" when it comes to
world trade. Open trade with foreign country allows for easy access to
imports and since we rely heavily on imported goods, blocking these
trade agreements could be problamatic to our economy. Although our
economy is already in a sticky situation, adding protectionist
measures would just push us back into a deeper recession. Also,
protectionist measures could negatively effect the U.S's relationships
with other countries by breaking off trade agreements. For example, if
the U.S. refuses to sign new trade agreements with Korea and Cuba, it
might seem like the U.S. is trying to put up trade barriers, even if
there is more to the situation, such as diplomacy issues.

The first political cartoon is clearly for protectionism. It is
showing an American saying "buy American" in one section, and in the
other, a Chinese man saying, "pirate American". This is saying that if
we do not take more protectionist measures, other countries will
basically be stealing our products, while we would be gaining nothing.

The second political cartoon is more against protectionism. It shows
Obama driving a car that says USA on it, with Uncle Sam in the
passenger seat. The tires are flat, and the car can therefore not move
towards the exit which says, "Free Trade", pointing out. A sign in the
parking garage states, "caution, do not back up, severe tire damage."
This shows that we were on a free trade "route" and tried to back up,
hurting our tires, aka our economy. This means that we should have
stayed on the free trade route, rather than implementing protectionist
policies and blocking trade routes, because coming out of free trade
is hurting our economy.

On Oct 21, 8:09 am, "Mr. J." <glen.jaskelew...@rtsd.org> wrote:
> Define protectionism.  Should the US government become more
> "protectionist" when it comes to world trade?  In addition to some of
> the examples used in the book, please use some other more recent
> examples to help support your answer.
>
> Finally, after viewing the political cartoons below, descibe each in
> your own words.  We will discuss the cartoons in class as well.
>
> http://www.inkcinct.com.au/Web/CARTOONS/2009/2009-062--return-to-prot...
>
> http://assets.comics.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/200...

Lauren

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Oct 22, 2009, 10:11:27 PM10/22/09
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Protectionism is the policy of developing domestic industries by
protecting them from foreign competition through duties or quotas
imposed on importations. I think that it would be a very good idea to
impose some more protectionist measures. This will help keep companies
in the United States and also improve the availability of jobs for US
citizens. Improving the amount of jobs will, in turn, improve the
consumption rate of products. It will benefit both the manufacturer
and the consumers. If companies keep their main source in America,
then we will be able to maintain good working conditions and also make
sure all regulations are followed. However, I think that once we re-
boost our economy, we have more leeway in regards to international
trade. Therefore, we should keep trade within our own country to
benefit our ecenomy for the time being, but not become an exclusively
protectionist country in the long run.

The first cartoon depicts America on one side and China on the other.
The heading at the top reads, "Return to Protectionism...". The
American side has a caption that reads, "Buy American", while on the
Chinese side, there is a caption that reads, "Pirate America". This is
stating that no matter what policies of protectionism we impose, China
will find a way to imitate what we do, making profit in their own
country.

The second cartoon depicts two leaders (Obama and Uncle Sam, in this
cartoon) in a car labeled "USA". They have backed out of the entryway
labeled "Free Trade", "One Way" and there is also a sign that says,
"Caution. Do Not Back Up. Severe Tire Damage". This cartoon is saying
that Obama has tried to back up on free trade, in the sense that he
wanted to remove the country from free trade. This has put the leaders
in a predicament, questioning whether free trade is the right way to
go.

On Oct 21, 8:09 am, "Mr. J." <glen.jaskelew...@rtsd.org> wrote:
> Define protectionism.  Should the US government become more
> "protectionist" when it comes to world trade?  In addition to some of
> the examples used in the book, please use some other more recent
> examples to help support your answer.
>
> Finally, after viewing the political cartoons below, descibe each in
> your own words.  We will discuss the cartoons in class as well.
>
> http://www.inkcinct.com.au/Web/CARTOONS/2009/2009-062--return-to-prot...
>
> http://assets.comics.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/200...

Kai

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Oct 22, 2009, 10:30:56 PM10/22/09
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Protectionism is when a country uses tariffs and other forms of trade
regulation to promote domestic goods over foreign goods. I think that
protectionism is a necessary step toward the recovery of the US
economy. The loss of jobs that we have suffered due to cheap foreign
labor has been disastrous. Moving more jobs home will increase
civilian jobs and buying power, and promote spending. Also, by
promoting domestic products, this increased spending will recirculate
through the economy and continue to revitalize it and create new jobs.
The recent collapse of GM is a great sign that protectionism is
becoming a necessity. With thousands of workers laid off, GM's death
caused many people to loose homes, and buying power. By using
protectionism to promote and support our own companies, we can help
prevent this kind of disaster from occurring. Also, the increased flow
in the domestic economy will quickly strengthen our businesses. Then
when the time is right, the US can release protectionism and trade to
the world with a new set of powerful and reliable domestic companies.

The first cartoon is a comparison of China and the US. It shows how
China's piracy and manufacturing industry is hurting the US. The men
on the left side only have a clipboard and are talking about buying
American, while the men on the right have boxes of CDs and DVDs. This
implies the appeal of cheap Chinese goods over domestic US goods.

The punctured tires in Uncle Sam's car is a clear symbol of the
recession. Also Obama is sitting in the car with Uncle Sam. The
punctures and the free trade gate with spikes implies that Obama had
tried to pull America back from total free trade, and has damaged the
economy even further by doing so.

On Oct 21, 8:09 am, "Mr. J." <glen.jaskelew...@rtsd.org> wrote:
> Define protectionism.  Should the US government become more
> "protectionist" when it comes to world trade?  In addition to some of
> the examples used in the book, please use some other more recent
> examples to help support your answer.
>
> Finally, after viewing the political cartoons below, descibe each in
> your own words.  We will discuss the cartoons in class as well.
>
> http://www.inkcinct.com.au/Web/CARTOONS/2009/2009-062--return-to-prot...
>
> http://assets.comics.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/200...

Shannon

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Oct 22, 2009, 10:46:08 PM10/22/09
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Protectionism is the theory, practice, or system of fostering or
developing domestic industries by protecting them from foreign
competition through duties or quotas imposed on importations. I
disagree that the U.S. should become more "protectionist" when it
comes to world trade because trade with other countries gives benefits
to both countries, instead of just one. Also, if we did not have/
increase our trade with our main traders, such as China we will hurt
even more economically than we are now. http://www.cpsc.gov/BUSINFO/intl/china07.pdf
says that 40% of all U.S. merchandise was made in China in 2007. In
addition it will increase demand in U.S. exports, thus creating jobs,
which helps the economy return to prosperity. But also, at the G-20
Summit in November of 2008, 20 nations decided not to resort to
protectionism because they way the economy goes up is if the whole
global economy goes up, which is a huge goal for the U.S. for at least
another decade.

1st Cartoon.) This cartoon is trying to get the point across that
though the U.S. is trying to become more protectionists; China is
still going to be a huge influence in the American market. While the
American men are saying, "Buy American" the Chinese men are getting
around the U.S's protectionism attempt.

2nd Cartoon.) This political cartoon shows President Obama and the
American icon, Uncle Sam, driving out of a parking lot symbolizing
free trade. This is showing that America backing out of free trade
while we are already in it will only hurt us in the long run.


On Oct 21, 8:09 am, "Mr. J." <glen.jaskelew...@rtsd.org> wrote:
> Define protectionism.  Should the US government become more
> "protectionist" when it comes to world trade?  In addition to some of
> the examples used in the book, please use some other more recent
> examples to help support your answer.
>
> Finally, after viewing the political cartoons below, descibe each in
> your own words.  We will discuss the cartoons in class as well.
>
> http://www.inkcinct.com.au/Web/CARTOONS/2009/2009-062--return-to-prot...
>
> http://assets.comics.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/200...

Kevin Xiao

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Oct 22, 2009, 11:06:01 PM10/22/09
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Protectionism is an economc policy which limits trade with other
countries in order to protect developing domestic companies and
industries. I think that the united states should enforce some level
of protectionism because allowing too much freedom allows companies to
outsource jobs. Our economic recovery depends on more people spending
and if people are jobless, then they cannot do so. The unemployment
rate is around 10%, the highest it's been in many years partly due to
large corporations outsourcing jobs to make products cheaper in order
to compete with more local businesses. Countries like china have had
such large increases in GDP due to our jobs being moved over there. We
need to make sure America is economically stable by enforcing some
level of protectionism, otherwise countries like china willsurpass us
even more

The first cartoon shows an American saying "buy american" while he
other person says "pirate American". This carton is saying that
countries, including America, want to find the cheapest way possible
to get American products. Through outsourcing, we make products
cheaper for ourselves. If we continue to give so much access to china,
then more ways to make products more easily shared like pirating will
come up, hurting businesses at home.

The second cartoon shows amerca backing out of a garage represening
free trade with spikes on the ground. The flat tires imply that if
America enters some free trade agreement, then backing out of it will
hurt us.

On Oct 21, 1:09 pm, "Mr. J." <glen.jaskelew...@rtsd.org> wrote:
> Define protectionism.  Should the US government become more
> "protectionist" when it comes to world trade?  In addition to some of
> the examples used in the book, please use some other more recent
> examples to help support your answer.
>
> Finally, after viewing the political cartoons below, descibe each in
> your own words.  We will discuss the cartoons in class as well.
>
> http://www.inkcinct.com.au/Web/CARTOONS/2009/2009-062--return-to-prot...
>
> http://assets.comics.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/200...

fv

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Oct 23, 2009, 8:59:13 AM10/23/09
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Protectionims is the method of developing domestic industries by
protecting them from foreign competitors through methods such as large
tariffs on imported goods. I do not think that the US should be more
protectionist because as one of the world superpowers its important
for us to maintain a healthy internationaly influenced market. We are
not only supporting the balance of our economy but also the economies
of many other countries. For example our trade embargo with cuba has
all but destroyed their economy and much of their country now
struggles with poverty. If our market became protectionist we would
damage the economy in countries such as China and Taiwan were many of
our goods are produced.

In the first cartoon we see two pictures under the banner of going
back to protectionism, the first cartoon shows two American
buisnessmen with one informing the other to buy American. The second
picture shows two Chinese men with one informing the other to pirate
American. This says that even if the US attemots to return to a
protectionist market the Chinese will still benefit of of our goods.

In the second cartoon we see Obama and Uncle Sam sitting in a car with
flat tires, in front of them is a sign that says Free Trade One Way
Only, on the ground there are a set of tire spikes. This implies that
by backing out of the free trade market America will only make its
economy worse.
On Oct 21, 8:09 am, "Mr. J." <glen.jaskelew...@rtsd.org> wrote:
> Define protectionism.  Should the US government become more
> "protectionist" when it comes to world trade?  In addition to some of
> the examples used in the book, please use some other more recent
> examples to help support your answer.
>
> Finally, after viewing the political cartoons below, descibe each in
> your own words.  We will discuss the cartoons in class as well.
>
> http://www.inkcinct.com.au/Web/CARTOONS/2009/2009-062--return-to-prot...
>
> http://assets.comics.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/200...

Brendan

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Oct 25, 2009, 10:21:32 PM10/25/09
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Protectionism is the policies used by a country to keep jobs at home
rather than abroad and to encourage citizens to by domestically made
goods as opposed to foreign products. When it comes to world trade I
do think that the US government should implement some protectionist
policies but to an extent. Because certain protectionist measures such
as encouraging the consumption of american goods and keeping jobs in
the US are vital steps to help bring the US out of the economic
recession. While most analyst agree that keeping trade free and open
is the best way to move forward but leaders of countries face pressure
to keep jobs at home. And as stated in the current issues book the US
is loosing jobs to other countries that want cheaper labor. To help
the US economy grow the US must make sure that the citizens have jobs
and to buy domestic goods.

The first cartoon depicts two people in the US saying "buy American"
and two people in china saying "pirate american" and over the top of
the two pictures it says "Return to Protectionism". I think that this
cartoon is saying that if the US implements protectionist policies
foreign countries would resort to illegal methods to obtain the US
good that they are no longer getting legally. The artist most likely
doesn't think that protectionist policies will help the US.

The second cartoon is of a car labeled USA being driven by Barrack
Obama with Uncle Sam in the passenger seat. The car has flat tires
because it was driven backwards over road spikes because they had
tried to back out of the "free trade tunnel". I think that this
cartoon is saying that the US can't back out of free trade once they
enter it without causing extensive damage to the country. I think that
the artist feels that now that the US has begun down the road of free
trade the US can't go back.

On Oct 21, 8:09 am, "Mr. J." <glen.jaskelew...@rtsd.org> wrote:
> Define protectionism.  Should the US government become more
> "protectionist" when it comes to world trade?  In addition to some of
> the examples used in the book, please use some other more recent
> examples to help support your answer.
>
> Finally, after viewing the political cartoons below, descibe each in
> your own words.  We will discuss the cartoons in class as well.
>
> http://www.inkcinct.com.au/Web/CARTOONS/2009/2009-062--return-to-prot...
>
> http://assets.comics.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/200...
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