Using E block borewll...

[Subhash Gowda]

Team,

Whoever is in charge to send out the mail to owners, please review and send the below mail and put a notice board message to avoid ordering the tankers unnecessarily. The new valve seem to play mischief here and we had to order 5 tankers today.

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Dear Residents,

We have installed Chlorine dosage pump to treat the bacteria during the water treatment and filtration process. As mentioned earlier, mixing the borewell water with Cauvery water in the ratio of 1:2 and above would bring down the hardness. We are going ahead in using the E block borewell since the new Valve from BWSSB is not co-operating and not leaving the water adequately. 

It is our strong recommendation as was stated earlier for you to use your treatment as we cannot guarantee the water quality as we have to procure water from many sources. Thanks for your understanding and co-operation.

Please let us know of any issues or comments with in 2 days.

With Regards,

Interim Committee

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With Regards,
Subhash

[anand jayanthi]

Subhash,

 

It is not advisable to use E-block borewell water for consumption as per the water test report.

We cannot take risk on the health of residents to save money on ordering tankers.

 

Thanks,

Jayanthi KP

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[anand jayanthi]

including Mani and Shiva for their inputs.

 

Thanks,

Jayanthi KP

[Subhash Gowda]

Jayanthi,

Do you mean water coming from tankers is OK for consumption? How do you ensure that? There are many permutations and combinations to ask if we have to debate on this topic. So, it is better to leave it to residents to treat the water themselves for their safety and hence my mail. I can guarantee at least the quality of borewell water but I can't do anything with tankers. 

Hence this message has to go and let us not take any decisions here. It is better we inform and proceed based on the actions that we have taken so far to install chlorine dosage pump. If it is useless and does not address the situation, then it begs the question on why did we spend that money to install it in the first place?

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Subhash

[manivannan arathi]

If something which is not recommended or doubtful straight NO, please do not play with the health of the residents.

I THINK THE RESIDENTS ARE NOT GUINEA PIGS.

regards

Mani

[anand jayanthi]

Subhash,

 

Chlorine dosage pump was installed only to reduce the bacterial level in water. It has no connection with the nitrate content in E-block borewell.

I think I have given much explanation on this topic.

As an owner, I will definetly oppose to using E-block borewell water.

I would sincerely advise Mr Sundaram not to send any message to the owners in this regards, cause the residents are ignorant of the water test analysis report details and they believe the Committee takes decision for the well-being of residents.

 

Thanks,

Jayanthi KP

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Subhash

[Subhash Gowda]

Do you have any suggestions how nitrate content can be reduced? Is it not possible to reduce using my Zero-B at my apartment? Is that not fair enough? Also, some residents who do not trust anything are anyway ordering water from outside for drinking and cooking. I am not sure why you are raising such issues suddenly.

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Subhash

[manivannan arathi]

Just bcoz money spend on pump it is not the justification to use the borewell. Again on the water tanker it is known fact to the residents and adding borewell water having a negative reports means knowingly playing with residents health, lets not add further complicate the matter. If I am right some residents already commented on the report and suggested not to use.



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[Sivaprasad Acharya]

Instead of arguing, better option is to call down an expert in this field and take their suggestion on what can be done in this case; if it hasn’t been done already.

All treatment should however be done in our treatment plant before supplying it to the homes; it is not correct to assume that everyone will filter it using ZERO-B or something.

 

Also after the treatment, we should send the treated water for testing and get it certified for domestic usage. Only then we should supply it to home.

[manivannan arathi]

Jayanthi/stuti

I think we have a report, which residents are aware about, if I am right insane comedian also commented negatively on this report.

regards



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On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 2:15 PM IST Sivaprasad Acharya wrote:

>Instead of arguing, better option is to call down an expert in this field and take their suggestion on what can be done in this case; if it hasn't been done already.
>All treatment should however be done in our treatment plant before supplying it to the homes; it is not correct to assume that everyone will filter it using ZERO-B or something.
>
>Also after the treatment, we should send the treated water for testing and get it certified for domestic usage. Only then we should supply it to home.
>
>
>From: Subhash Gowda [mailto:rsu...@gmail.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 2:10 PM
>To: anand jayanthi
>Cc: rosegard...@gmail.com; rgmc-2...@googlegroups.com; nsunda...@yahoo.in; manivannan; Shivaprasad Acharya
>Subject: Re: [rgmc-2013-14:1397] Using E block borewll...
>
>Do you have any suggestions how nitrate content can be reduced? Is it not possible to reduce using my Zero-B at my apartment? Is that not fair enough? Also, some residents who do not trust anything are anyway ordering water from outside for drinking and cooking. I am not sure why you are raising such issues suddenly.
>

>On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:53 PM, anand jayanthi <jayanth...@yahoo.com<mailto:jayanth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Subhash,
>
>Chlorine dosage pump was installed only to reduce the bacterial level in water. It has no connection with the nitrate content in E-block borewell.
>I think I have given much explanation on this topic.
>As an owner, I will definetly oppose to using E-block borewell water.
>I would sincerely advise Mr Sundaram not to send any message to the owners in this regards, cause the residents are ignorant of the water test analysis report details and they believe the Committee takes decision for the well-being of residents.
>
>Thanks,
>Jayanthi KP
>
>
>From: Subhash Gowda <rsu...@gmail.com<mailto:rsu...@gmail.com>
>To: anand jayanthi <jayanth...@yahoo.com<mailto:jayanth...@yahoo.com>
>Cc: "rosegard...@gmail.com<mailto:rosegard...@gmail.com>" <rosegard...@gmail.com<mailto:rosegard...@gmail.com>; "rgmc-2...@googlegroups.com<mailto:rgmc-2...@googlegroups.com>" <rgmc-2...@googlegroups.com<mailto:rgmc-2...@googlegroups.com>; "nsunda...@yahoo.in<mailto:nsunda...@yahoo.in>" <nsunda...@yahoo.in<mailto:nsunda...@yahoo.in>
>Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2013, 13:30
>Subject: Re: [rgmc-2013-14:1397] Using E block borewll...
>
>Jayanthi,
>
>Do you mean water coming from tankers is OK for consumption? How do you ensure that? There are many permutations and combinations to ask if we have to debate on this topic. So, it is better to leave it to residents to treat the water themselves for their safety and hence my mail. I can guarantee at least the quality of borewell water but I can't do anything with tankers.
>
>Hence this message has to go and let us not take any decisions here. It is better we inform and proceed based on the actions that we have taken so far to install chlorine dosage pump. If it is useless and does not address the situation, then it begs the question on why did we spend that money to install it in the first place?
>
>
>On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:08 PM, anand jayanthi <jayanth...@yahoo.com<mailto:jayanth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Subhash,
>
>It is not advisable to use E-block borewell water for consumption as per the water test report.
>We cannot take risk on the health of residents to save money on ordering tankers.
>
>Thanks,
>Jayanthi KP
>

>From: Subhash Gowda <rsu...@gmail.com<mailto:rsu...@gmail.com>
>To: rosegard...@gmail.com<mailto:rosegard...@gmail.com>
>Cc: "rgmc-2...@googlegroups.com<mailto:rgmc-2...@googlegroups.com>" <rgmc-2...@googlegroups.com<mailto:rgmc-2...@googlegroups.com>; "nsunda...@yahoo.in<mailto:nsunda...@yahoo.in>" <nsunda...@yahoo.in<mailto:nsunda...@yahoo.in>
>Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2013, 12:59
>Subject: [rgmc-2013-14:1397] Using E block borewll...
>
>Team,
>
>Whoever is in charge to send out the mail to owners, please review and send the below mail and put a notice board message to avoid ordering the tankers unnecessarily. The new valve seem to play mischief here and we had to order 5 tankers today.
>
>***********
>Dear Residents,
>
>We have installed Chlorine dosage pump to treat the bacteria during the water treatment and filtration process. As mentioned earlier, mixing the borewell water with Cauvery water in the ratio of 1:2 and above would bring down the hardness. We are going ahead in using the E block borewell since the new Valve from BWSSB is not co-operating and not leaving the water adequately.
>
>It is our strong recommendation as was stated earlier for you to use your treatment as we cannot guarantee the water quality as we have to procure water from many sources. Thanks for your understanding and co-operation.
>
>Please let us know of any issues or comments with in 2 days.
>
>With Regards,
>Interim Committee
>*************
>
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>With Regards,
>Subhash
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[anand jayanthi]

Subhash,

 

I am not an expert to suggest how nitrate content can be reduced.But I do have knowledge on the possible health hazards caused if it is consumed.

As suggested by Shiva, please get an expert opinion before you could decide on supplying the E-block borewell water for domestic purposes.

 

 

Thanks,

Jayanthi KP

[Subhash Gowda]

Siva,

Here are my quick observations and may not be able to spend much time on this till 10 PM

1. We have sent out an email and put a notice board message which said that we are going to install chlorine dosage pump to treat bacteria. Until then, we confirmed not to use borewells

2. The experts (Ph. D guy) who tested our water confirmed that we can use the water if it is used in the ratio of 1:2 or above with BWSSB water

3. We have installed the chlorine dosage pump now and until I start using the borewell, I cannot send the water report for further testing to confirm if bacteria is treated.

4. We did not find any nitrate issues in the tap water of an apartment since it is diluted.

So, I believe to have answered your concerns and taken care of your suggestions already.

Regards,

Subhash

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Subhash

[manivannan arathi]

But again opinion should be clear opinion no if's and but's and that too from an accredited agency, not road side Phd.

regards

Mani

[Stuti Jain]

Opinion was from a very recognized agency.... Aqua test report..... they test the water levels as per Aquaguard water purifier levels.

Regards

Stuti

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[anand jayanthi]

Shiva,

 

We stopped using borwell water and then took a sample of  water from one of the apartments and sent it for testing.Hence this report had only bacterial issues.

So point 4 is not correct because this water was not mixed with borewell water.

 

My concern is more on the nitrate content in E-block borewell water. 

[manivannan arathi]

Stuti

That means the water is subject to usage thru aqua guard, correct.  

If I am right there was a comment on the report, can you recollect.

Notwithstanding all the views, I doubt the interim committee cannot sit on the judgement on the quality of the water, mandate given to them to take care of day to day operations, not something which has divergent views. Better to postpone this for time being let the new team take a call basis discussion with the residents. On the grounds of so called " Savings" none of us including interim can take a call which has got impact on residents health. This needs discussion and buy of from the resident, this matters cannot be done on mails by few people at their whims and fancies.

regards

Mani

[anand jayanthi]

FYI

 

What can I do to reduce nitrate in my

drinking water?

The best way to reduce nitrate in your drinking water is to identify any potential sources of nitrate

on your property and find ways to manage those sources. A faulty septic system, fertilizers,

and animal wastes are common sources of nitrate. Make sure your well head is properly

located and has an effective seal.

Other options for managing nitrate include:

•

If your well is contaminated by high levels of nitrate (10 ppm or above), infants and

pregnant or nursing women should stop drinking well water. If you are using infant formula,

make sure that it is prepared with bottled water, or use pre-mixed formula.

•

Reverse osmosis, distillation, or ion exchange systems can all be used to treat water to

remove nitrate. However, these treatment systems are expensive, and require careful

maintenance for effective operation. For more information on these systems, see the

Drinking Water Fact Sheet Drinking Water Treatment Systems.

•

Boiling water does not help because it actually concentrates the nitrate. Charcoal filters,

water softeners, or use of chlorine do nothing to remove nitrate from water.

•

If excessive nitrates are found, monitor nitrate levels at least twice per year (once in the

winter, and once in the summer) and keep records. To protect the health of your family,

annual water tests should also be made for bacteria.

•

Water containing high nitrate levels can be safely used for bathing, cleaning dishes,

washing laundry, or other uses where water is not ingested.

 

 

Stuti Jain
Sr. Manager Branding
BGS Global Hospitals
Kengeri, Bangalore
Mob: 9886087659

www.globalhospitalsindia.com

[manivannan arathi]

Jayanthi

Excellent. No words to express your interest in the welfare of the residents. Hats off to you, gr8.

So drop it forever. All categories of residents are mentioned in that report.

regards

Mani

[Subhash Gowda]

Mani,

I have laughed to my stomach full after reading your mail but we will have to take a wise decision here to move forward. Understand ever ones frustration but there are some people who may also say that we may have vested interests in ordering the tankers!!

Sorry, I have to go for a meeting now and will talk to you further to night.

Thanks,

Subhash

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With Regards,
Subhash

[jain....@gmail.com]

Team,

Please stop writing further on this. Its better to meet face to face and discuss this matter and close it. Each one is right in his / her own sense so let's meet and take a conclusion.

Regards,
Stuti

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From: Subhash Gowda <rsu...@gmail.com>

Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 15:30:16 +0530

To: manivannan arathi<mshre...@yahoo.com>

Cc: anand jayanthi<jayanth...@yahoo.com>; Stuti Jain<jain....@gmail.com>; Sivaprasad Acharya<Sivaprasa...@synopsys.com>; rosegard...@gmail.com<rosegard...@gmail.com>; rgmc-2...@googlegroups.com<rgmc-2...@googlegroups.com>; nsunda...@yahoo.in<nsunda...@yahoo.in>

[anand jayanthi]

Subhash,

 

I don't think there is anything funny communicated here that made you laugh your stomach full.

It only shows that you have considered the health of residents as a joke.

Either you take steps to ensure that you supply potable water to residents or just simply refrain yourself from providing wrong suggestions and ideas.

 

Thanks,

Jayanthi KP

 

 

 

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[anand jayanthi]

Stuti,

 

Who are we to decide? We are not MC members anymore.

Even the interim team can not take any decision on this.

 

Thanks,

Jayanthi KP

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Team,

Please stop writing further on this. Its better to meet face to face and discuss this matter and close it. Each one is right in his / her own sense so let's meet and take a conclusion.

Regards,
Stuti

Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone

[manivannan arathi]

Subhash

We can laugh like what we did after the meeting on sunday, but residents should not laugh at you, calling you as an "Idiot" that is what I am worried.

Is there a way wise decision possible for this issue, i doubt with the information shared. 

I sincerely wish is that one day residents should not call you another "insane comedian" bcoz i am also part of the team we worked. I am least bothered about people talking ridiculously without understanding the impact, like for example your friend insane comedian Kbali, see what happened to him. Your another close friend Malik he went into hiding. This are the clear case of arrogance and you must have seen when i abused insane comedian on 20th meeting i got support from a member who never speaks in any meeting.

I doubt your apprehension on the nexus which you are referring about the water tanker is not real, but I think you are trying to push it in the name of savings no matter how it affects residents (Guinea pigs), which I thing is too harsh a step on the residents.

[manivannan arathi]

Stuti

We do not have right to decide this issue. Let the full fledged team bring it before members.

Jayanthi

It seems subhash showing his frustration not able to stop people abusing his close friends insane comedian, Baskar and Malik, which is understandable it is better to ignore his laugh. And also not able to push the agenda's proposed by his close friends through him. He is working very seriously to become another comedian.

Subhash

Do not laugh alone people around may thing otherwise, careful.

regards

Mani

[Subhash Gowda]

Mani,

You can check my mobile and email communication if you are so interested to see if there is any communication (sent or received) to any of the people that you are referring to and me getting any advice from them. I can tolerate someone calling me a comedian but you please restrict calling me only if you feel like and do not include others who are not really part of our conversation here. I feel unnecessary guilt in me when you refer to them unnecessarily in my mail conversation. Should I stop writing mail or should I drop off from handling this portfolio? Please suggest and am willing to do both of them if it helps.

It looks like they including me are not blessed with necessary qualities or meet your expectations but however I have to make a living in this world till I am gone for good.

Jayanthi, I laughed at the sarcasm of Mani's statement and not on the health of residents as you know it. I know that the next mail from you is to counter me asking where is the sarcasm. There is no end to conversation when we really are not listening to each other. I have understood all of your arguments and let us discuss one-on-one in a meeting as Stuti suggested and close this topic for good.

Fyi, I also have one year old child and 60+ year old parents (my wife's parent who often stays with us) staying in my apartment and hence please don't assume that I take other's health very lightly.

Regards,

Subhash

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With Regards,
Subhash

[SUBHRAJIT GUPTA]

Please everyone sincerely request lets stop this. This is one of the reasons why I did not want to be a part.

 

We may have our differences but please lets not pull each other down or worse try to humilate.

 

I logged in after many days dreading these mails and well we as a group did not disappoint.

 

So long g'night

[Subhash Gowda]

My apologies to start the thread initially writing to the group email id which i had unsubscribed long back. I will take care to write to only those concerned. Thanks!

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With Regards,
Subhash