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Dear Saints,

Posting link to video by Michael Brown speaking on hyper grace.

Blaine

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Date: Fri, Mar 15, 2013 5:13 PM

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGYUc4qsuo&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DHhGYUc4qsuo

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[Merle Weaver]

FYI.  Cheap grace has been around since the 50's.  The missionaries wrote back to the schools and said send us no more of your students schooled in cheap grace, they are usesless to us.

Just a thought/comment.

Merle W.

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[Dawn Eden]

Re Hyper Grace
 
The people who throw around the term hyper-grace need to define it. At what point does plain old grace go too far and become hyper-grace? I have a feeling that there is no disagreement with regard to salvation, justification, and regeneration. We are saved by grace apart from works. I have a feeling that the disagreement exists when discussing sanctification. This is the age-old heresy of Galatianism. The idea that now that we are saved we need to keep the law of Moses to be acceptable to God. Grace + Law. The law was and is good. It declares the unimpeachable holiness of Almighty God. Romans declares that the problem is with us. The flesh is at enmity with God and cannot please God no matter how hard it tries. At salvation God births us anew by implanting His Holy Spirit in our spirit. Thus God writes in our hearts what is pleasing to Him. We as New Testament believers do not need a list of do's and don'ts to govern our conduct. We have the Spirit.

While I believe that both groups place high emphasis and importance on holy living, conduct and behavior, they approach it differently. Those who wish to place NT believers under the law as a rule of life apparently think that by practicing holy and righteous conduct and behavior, they themselves become holy. They are focused on externals (the outside of the cup). Jesus tells us that our behavior and conduct come forth out of what is already in our hearts. 1 Corinthians tells us that Jesus Himself is our sanctification. The definitive imputed holiness of Christ which we receive at the new birth by grace is the LIFE and power we need to have a holy walk, or progressive sanctification.

Legalists want to make righteous and holy conduct the condition on which acceptance and approval with God comes to us. Grace posits that we are transformed from the inside by the new birth of the Spirit within our Spirit and as we yield and submit to the Spirit within and reckon ourselves dead to the old Adamic life we once were, we will bear the fruit of the Spirit in our conduct and speech.

Let us also keep in mind that there are many tares (false converts) among the Body of Christ. They heard a false or watered-down gospel and think they are saved because the "believe in Christ." When pressed on what that means, they say that they believe all the facts about Jesus found in the Bible to be true. While important, this answer falls woefully short of what is required to be born again. Admitting guilt before God and repenting of the lifestyle and attitude of sin against God must come first. Believing the Gospel of grace freely given to sinners by Christ must come next. Any person who claims to proclaim the Gospel without pressing the message of "all have sinned" and the need to repent is presenting a false gospel. Let us not rail against preachers of the true gospel because there exists some individuals who only hear what they want to hear (the grace part) and skip the repentance part. When presenting the gospel, I think it is important to explain that in one sense salvation is absolutely free. But in another sense, it will cost you everything. What I mean is that if you purposely withhold anything from the one you call your LORD, you cannot be a disciple. Look at the rich young ruler. But if you are willing to let the Lord strip you of anything and everything that displeases Him, you can receive the free gift of salvation in Christ and have true riches.


The spirit of man is the candle of the LORD, searching all the inward parts of the belly. Proverbs 20.27
 

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