Future releases
David Fletcher
I am wondering, will Revelation be back in the repositories of
Ubuntu/Mint LTS releases in future?
I understand that it was dropped from Mint 20/Ubuntu 20.04 because of
the changes made to Python which you were working to accommodate at the
time.
At the moment I am sticking with 0.5.0 which I have working after a
little advice from yourselves some months ago. I foolishly took the
lazy way out on two computers on which I had done a fresh install of
Mint 20 using the flatpak method. It appeared to work but more slowly
than 0.5.0 installed from source I thought, until I tried to alter or
add a new entry. The flatpak installed revelation then failed to save
the modified file, putting up some obscure error message about not
being able to find the directory or something similar, I can't remember
exactly what it was. What I do remember is that when I tried to
completely remove it, flatpak had crapped all over my freshly set up
hard drives and I had no idea how to tidy it all up so I did a reformat
and install all over again. One of my first administrative actions is
now:-
sudo aptitude purge flatpak
What I don't understand is why you used Python in the first place? I've
never used it but I have heard that it tends to be a moving target as
it goes from one version to the next as with the latest Ubuntu and Mint
LTS. I only do a little bash and C/C++ terminal type programming, never
really got my head around the GUI stuff but I do know of things such as
Qt making it relatively simple to create software such as yours which
runs on multiple platforms.
I shall continue for now to use Revelation because it's the best
password manager I've ever used and moving everything to another one is
a thorough pain. However I'm attempting to get my girlfriend using a
password manager. She sees the sense of it but wants to be able to also
open the file on a Windows 10 computer (no I cannot understand why) so
I'm investigating keepass.
To summarise,
If you could please have a conventional repository install available in
the next LTS Linux releases, that would be great.
If you could do a radical update sometime using Qt or something to make
it available on all platforms that would be absolutely fantastic.
Regards and thanks for reading my email,
Dave Fletcher
A. James Lewis
You can see if you search here:-
https://pkgs.org/search/?q=revelation
Revelation disappeared from the Universe repo after 18.04, but it's back from 21.04 on... I had kept the old version from 18.04 running on upgraded distro through 20.04, but due to python2 being finally removed in 20.04 it was no-longer possible to run the older version as you say.
It's back in the repo tho, and having completed a vanilla install
on a new laptop, it's working just fine... Definitely thanks to
the developers for that one, as I was really worried that a great
program like Revelation would end up being consigned to history.
Regarding the python comments... I'm not sure of the history, it may be that the decision to use python was not made by the current maintainer... and, in fact Python has served the project well.... working for 15 years before needing some maintenance to get it working on Python 3. I guess it's fair to say that the best programming language to use for a project is the one you are familiar with, and which can get the job done... as a project that gets done, is better than one that doesn't.
I've installed 21.10 (impish) development releases with revelation also, with no issue, so I imagine you will have no problem with the next LTS.
Python is available for Windows, so I imagine someone with a little determination could port it to Windows, but there does have to be a developer who wants to... I believe there is an (experimental) Android version tho.
James
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