Re: Updated Hitachi Consulting RETS Work order

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Chris McKeever

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Mar 17, 2010, 3:08:27 PM3/17/10
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On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Chris McKeever
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> Attached please find the statement of work for compliance tool updates.
>

Sergio Del Rio

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Mar 17, 2010, 3:33:53 PM3/17/10
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No attachment.

Regards,
Sergio Del Rio
Templates 4 Business Inc.

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pob...@ronintech.org

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Mar 17, 2010, 5:06:03 PM3/17/10
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First, thank you Chris for sending us this document!

Two costs stand out as unacceptable to me:

- $12k to parse compact with a delimiter other than tab (a functionality
clearly supported by the spec and handled by all major RETS clients - note
the "DELIMITER" tag in the RETS response!).

- $12k to test that the length of a result value is less than or equal to
its max length in the metadata.

The other amounts are also higher than I'd expect ($2k for fixing an error
message) but these are outrageously so.

During BOD budget discussions, I am tired of hearing from NAR how much
money has been spent to date on this compliance tool. If it costs $30k to
fix five relatively minor errors, this system is unmaintainable.

At these prices, we have no hope of getting NAR to fund additional tests
for the version 1.8 that is being talked about, let alone any deferred
tests.

What the rest of you think? I do not feel comfortable moving forward with
this kind of expense, but it is your call as members of the workgroup to
decide if this expense is justifiable based on the problems presented. We
can discuss this further and have a vote on it Thursday (tomorrow) at 2pm
ET/ 11 am PT.

> Lets try it again ..

Chris McKeever

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Mar 17, 2010, 5:12:18 PM3/17/10
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Paula - thanks for the feedback. I will ask Hitachi to address the
time concerns via some more verbiage in the proposal, and maybe there
is a differing opinion of path of work that is creating the
disconnect.

- Chris

Libor Viktorin

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Mar 17, 2010, 5:19:04 PM3/17/10
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I am with you. One of the principal requirements was that it be easy to
create new tests. If Hitachi claims a quarter of my year's salary to add
a test, that requirement definitely has not been achieved.

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Ryan Bonham

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Mar 17, 2010, 5:24:08 PM3/17/10
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Hi,

Wow.. Not sure what to say about the prices, except 12K to change a
delimiter used in a parser is just wrong.. These prices are all way to
high for what they being asked to do. Also it seems anonymous SVN
access has been disabled.. I wanted to look at why these issues are
going to take so long, but can't.

Ryan

Meissner, Shawn A.

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Mar 17, 2010, 5:32:50 PM3/17/10
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Hi,

I agree with everything that has been said. If this is what it is going
to cost to make minor changes than how are we going to move forward with
enchantments or Client tester, what would that cost be?

What other options are on the table? Who owns the code base? Can we
contract with another company to make these changes?


Thank You,
Shawn Meissner
Data Aggregation Manager
Move Inc.
Phone: 805-557-3603
Cell: 805-217-4034
Email: Shawn.M...@Move.com

Andrew Tillman

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Mar 17, 2010, 5:33:46 PM3/17/10
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Sorry about that Ryan. Try it now.

Sergio Del Rio

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Mar 17, 2010, 5:40:46 PM3/17/10
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I would suggest opening this up to a global RFP and see if anyone in the
community wants to bid on this work instead of Hitachi and we give it to the
most qualified yet lowest bid. You are correct that these all do seem very
high estimates considering what work should be done.

Regards,
Sergio Del Rio
Templates 4 Business Inc.


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