I have worked on and number of large scale web systems - well large by Australian standards... The idea that your site can have a greater than 1 week maintenance period is ridiculous - the very definition of gas-lighting...
Their social media person, after a couple of days, eventually posted on their mastodon account - that they were not ware of what was happening - and would try and find out. The social media person, after days of outage, was left in the dark as to what was going on! To then come back and try and convince a bunch of techies that this was all part of a plan - that a new website was coming soon - to be patient - beggars belief.
Latest post - a few days ago now - was they were almost done - "doing final testing" - and all will be wonderful!
Huh! Final testing - on production - what?
Just my personal guesses/speculations:
* The dev team, if one even exists, has been seriously under-invested for years - seems to have no technical leadership or required level of competent to operate a web site like Tindie.
* Perhaps they experienced a breach. I feel like there has been an uptick in hacking/breaching of websites globally - but specifically US based sites - since the start of war in the middle east started. Were the team's security practices sufficiently disciplined enough? Was the site and infrastructure reviewed and patched regularly?
* Perhaps it just 'crashed'. From my recent experience with the site - its stability was slowly declining - getting 504 - timeouts, etc. And their forum was being overwhelmed with spam - making that, next to useless to use.
* Whatever this maintenance or migration is - there appears to be no rollback plan - no way to keep the old system running and switch over when ready.
* Backups that can not be restored are not backups! Have they had issues with their database? Did they attempt a migration, screw up the the DB - and now are buggered! Or did the DB just die - and say "I am out of here!"
* Did someone think they could vibe code their way out of this? I left my job as a web developer because I saw more and more devs 'vibe' coding and making lots of technical debt and mess - I didn't want to be involved in that approach - so left the industry. I don't know on this one - I doubt it - but these days - the stories I hear!
* Not only has their main site been offline, so has their forum and blog sites - I would have expected these sites to be on separate infrastructure - not have the same deployment cycles. They all went offline at the same time. Another technical failure? Or a deliberate shutdown to avoid the need to communicate with customers!
Consequences of long outage:
Paypal: It been over a week now - I assume a lot of buyers have started to claim back their payments. The Paypal system is probably noting am uptick in chargebacks for the Tindie a/c. I dont know what Paypal might do in this case - they, and it might happen automatically, block or close Tindie's paypal account.
Google Ranking: at what point will google start to de-list the page ranking Tindie has developed over the years!
Trust: As a seller - can we ever trust the operators of Tindie to not screw-up again - do we want to risk the reputational damage to our customers again! Customers may also not fully trust this platform ever again!
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Its all rather sad. But also kind of weirdly fascinating - to watch a business self-implode and destroy itself...
They seem to technically know how to develop and operate a website -- they are small (although they are probably experiencing recent uptick in numbers). I do think they need a bit more marketing effort -- but maybe if more buyers and sellers move there (that network effect) - it will hit that threshold and come to be the preferred choice.
Now - where's my popcorn......
Dean