K. C. Moser: Memories and Assessment

[Jim McMillan]

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From: Rushford, Jerry <Jerry.R...@pepperdine.edu>
Date: Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 1:41 AM
Subject: RE: [STONE-CAMPBELL] Moser's Way of Salvation & Whitesides Sound Doctrine
To: "stone-c...@acu.edu" <stone-c...@acu.edu>


Bobby and Listers,

I have enjoyed all of the posts on K. C. Moser.

At the Pepperdine Bible Lectures in 2000, Steve Lemley presented a paper entitled "K. C. Moser: Memories and Assessment."  I have asked Steve for permission to share this document with the SC List.  Attached is his 13-page document on Moser and a brief letter from Steve explaining the document.

For those who are interested in Moser, please read Steve's letter first and then the 13-page document on Moser.

Jerry Rushford

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From: bobby.v...@paloverdechurch.org [bobby.v...@paloverdechurch.org]
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 7:08 PM
To: stone-c...@acu.edu
Subject: Re: [STONE-CAMPBELL] Moser's Way of Salvation & Whitesides Sound Doctrine

Is it the original Gospel Advocate edition?? or Gospel Light?  The Gospel Light
edition includes the review by G.C. Brewer and the forward by Cled Wallace but
omits the original Intro by Moser for some reason.  If it is and u have a
desire to get rid of it I know at least one person who will take it off your
hands  ;-)

Shalom,
Bobby Valentine
Tucson, AZ



Quoting RLLay...@aol.com:

> I discovered among two boxes of books that were given to me an  autographed
> copy of K. C. Moser of The Gist of Romans.
> LL
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> In a message dated 1/1/2011 4:39:33 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> gregl...@yahoo.com writes:
>
> Harold,
>
> Of course all I can offer is my opinion  but it helps me to know when and
> where you were at the times of things  you write about.  It provides context
>
> especially since your  spiritual journey has led through several paths.  So,
>
> as far as I  am concerned, please continue to make the historical
> references.
>
> I do have one question for you.  Who else from  S-C roots studied at
> Tuebingen? (my memory may fail me but it seems Ron  Highfield is in that
> group)
> While do not agree with much that came  out of the Tuebingen School of
> thought it certainly has been a major  player in NT studies.
>
> Happy New Year to  all.
>
> Greg
>
> --- On Sat, 1/1/11, Harold Straughn  <harolds...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
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> From:  Harold Straughn <harolds...@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re:  [STONE-CAMPBELL] Moser's Way of Salvation & Whitesides Sound
> Doctrine
> To: stone-c...@acu.edu
> Date: Saturday, January 1,  2011, 1:19 PM
>
>
> Listers,
>
> I am very conscious of the danger of being misunderstood  when I try to
> write not only about the conclusions I've reached  regarding religious
> matters,
> but also how I came to my  convictions.
>
> Many times I write about my childhood in the Twin City CoC  in Kansas City,
> Kansas, as well as my studies and experiences at  Abilene Christian
> College. I disagree with the view that all the  experiences I write about in
> the
> CofC are negative or that all  the posts about my life that reaches beyond
> the
> CoC are all  positive.
>
> Necessarily, since my education  in the CofC did not mark the end of my
> story, I also bring in narratives about my studies at Harvard  and Tuebingen.
>
>
> In addition to my academic life, I've spent several  decades in religious
> communciations and pulpit  ministry. Among the communications ministries I've
>
>  worked with are Sweet, Christian Chronicle, Herald of  Truth, Word, the
> Religious Book Club, and Liguori--invaluable  experiences where I was
> privileged to work with outstanding  spiritual leaders in the CofC,
> evangelicalism,
> mainstream  Protestantism, and the Roman Catholic Church. I think that any
> lister who wants to search my posts will find many that  express these
> influences on my life and thought.
>
> Another chapter in my pilgrimage concerns my  gradual move toward being
> ordained in The Christian  Church (Disciples of Christ)--a decision I made
> without  rejecting my life and ministry in the CofC. I find it a bracing
> challenge to be in touch with spiritual siblings who were  forced apart by a
>
> church divorce that happened a hundred years  ago, without our consent.
>
> Instead of criticizing some of the influences I write  about, I encourage
> listers to do their own soul-searching about  their own spiritual
> pilgrimages.
>
> I especially urge these disciplines for those whose posts  consistently are
> reduced to here-I-stand statements, filled with  biblical passages and
> doctrinal positions that may or may not be  the only right approach.
>
> Alan, with due respect, I've never read a post from you  where you explain
> how you came to your conclusions about a  doctrine or a passage of
> Scripture, or whether you've ever  changed your mind since your first
> indoctrination
> experiences.  It takes courage and wisdom to do so. I encourage you to  try.
>
> Harold Straughn
>
>
> --- On Sat, 1/1/11, Alan Highers  <ahig...@charter.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> From:  Alan Highers <ahig...@charter.net>
> Subject: Re:  [STONE-CAMPBELL] Moser's Way of Salvation & Whitesides  Sound
> Doctrine
> To: stone-c...@acu.edu
> Date:  Saturday, January 1, 2011, 9:51 AM
>
>
>
>
> ---- Tom Olbricht <tom-ol...@comcast.net>  wrote:
>
> =============
> C. J.
>
> I agree that the  views of the professors were lurking in the background.
> But if  you didn't know on other grounds you had to struggle hard to  figure
>
> it out.
>
> But I am puzzled by this statement "Yet,  you and Tom invariably talk about
> the HDS experience as though  it was so exhilarating that nothing
> traditional in the CoCs  lasted 5 minutes."
>
> I am not a judge of whether or not  Harold exhibits this trait. I'm sure he
> can speak for himself.  But I do not know any grounds on which you can
> accuse me of  this.
>
> Jumping  in where I probably shouldn't, I must say that I have not seen
> this trait exhibited in Tom. Tom mentions HDS or University of  Iowa when it
>
> relates to some factual matter, but I have never  felt he consciously flaunts
>
> the connection. Another lister can  hardly restrain himself, however, in
> brandishing his Hah-vad  and Tubigen experiences, especially when deprecating
>
> the  training, beliefs, and intellectual abilities of "the great  unwashed,"
>
> particularly those of conservative credentials or  convictions. I have
> known Jack Lewis for about fifty years,  and I never recall hearing him
> mention
> his training at  Harvard. I have heard many others speak of it, but I think
> Dr.  Jack generally allows his knowledge to speak for itself. When  one
> feels the necessity of continually reminding people of the  magnitude of his
>
> intellect and academics, the feeling emerges  that one realizes people would
>
> not recognize it without  prompting.
> Alan  Highers
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