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Great initiative, thanks! +1"Frontend" is a term sometimes used for the web server, as well. So we were trying to replace "polygerrit" rather with "web" or "web application". But I am not sure and don't have a strong opinion on what the best component name is here. Maybe "Frontend & WebApplication" or just "WebApplication"?Optional nit: You could maybe further combine:- Build&CI into one
- Documentation&Homepage into one
- Plugins&Applications&Modules into one: Maybe with some forcing function to set a subcomponent and for the subcomponent to match a repo name?
On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 10:34:56AM +0200, 'Edwin Kempin' via Repo and Gerrit Discussion wrote:
>At a later stage we may make setting a component mandatory. All issues
>without a component will be assigned to the 'Backend' component then.
>
it's not reasonable to force the user to make a selection, as they might
not be qualified. it's better to have a fallback component like "Other"
or "General", and also have it be the default selection.
>Proposed components:
>
> - *UX* (replaces 'PolyGerrit>UX', includes any issues with workflows
> not just UI)
>
this kinda makes no sense, as it operates in another dimension than
actual components. in jira, there are the issue types "user story" and
"epic" which can be used to aggregate subtasks, and i suppose monorail
has something roughly equivalent. if the "master" issue extends over
multiple components, it should be assigned to the fallback component.
On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 11:20:31AM +0200, 'Ben Rohlfs' via Repo and Gerrit Discussion wrote:
>"Frontend" is a term sometimes used for the web server, as well. So we
>were
>trying to replace "polygerrit" rather with "web" or "web application". But
>I am not sure and don't have a strong opinion on what the best component
>name is here. Maybe "Frontend & WebApplication" or just "WebApplication"?
>
i'd suggest WebFrontend.
this explicitly excludes the ssh interface and the git server, which
wouldn't be intuitively the case for "frontend". i wouldn't use
"application", as it's kinda meaningless - it would fit gerrit as a
whole just as well.
>- Build&CI into one
>
not really. that becomes clearer when you give "CI" a more appropriate
name like "QA Infrastructure", which is clearly distinct from the build
system (that is, the bazel files).
>- Documentation&Homepage into one
>
no; same reasoning as above.
>- Plugins&Applications&Modules into one: Maybe with some forcing function
>to set a subcomponent and for the subcomponent to match a repo name?
>
i suppose that makes sense, as it decouples the logical structure from
the physical repo layout and implementation details, which is
particularly interesting from the user perspective. "AddOns" seems like
a good name for that.
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On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 12:55:55PM +0200, 'Edwin Kempin' via Repo and Gerrit Discussion wrote:
>On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 12:39 PM Oswald Buddenhagen <oswald.bu...@gmx.de> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 10:34:56AM +0200, 'Edwin Kempin' via Repo and Gerrit Discussion wrote:
>> >At a later stage we may make setting a component mandatory. All issues
>> >without a component will be assigned to the 'Backend' component then.
>> >
>> it's not reasonable to force the user to make a selection, as they might
>> not be qualified. it's better to have a fallback component like "Other"
>> or "General", and also have it be the default selection.
>>
>Yes, if we do this, 'Backend' will be the default component.
>The triage process will then change the component if it was wrong.
>
the result of that is that some users assign issues to more or less
random components. and given that some components are "not quite as well
triaged", that just increases the overall noise in the system.
>The *UX* component is intended for issues with user experience in the
>Gerrit UI or with Gerrit workflows in general.
>
yes, and my point is that UX isn't a component, but a property of
(possibly multiple) components. having such a "fake" component just
creates a mess. use a hotlist/label/whatever instead, which is
specifically designed to create separate categorization axes.
also, maybe spell out UserExperience?
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Thanks a lot for all your feedback. Much appreciated.We have discussed this in the last community manager meeting and want to proceed like this:
* Follow the initial proposal with the following changes:1. Use a hotlist for UX rather than a component2. Use a more specific name for the Frontend component, we've chosen WebFrontend now.Edwin on behalf of the community managers
On 6 Jul 2022, at 14:17, 'Edwin Kempin' via Repo and Gerrit Discussion <repo-d...@googlegroups.com> wrote:Just to let you know, I started with cleaning up the components in Monorail now.Most components have already been changed as discussed, only some still need to be done (TODO: PolyGerrit -> WebFrontend, PolyGerrit>UX -> UX hotlist, googlesource -> googlesource hotlist).I will probably continue with this only next week.
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On 6 Jul 2022, at 14:17, 'Edwin Kempin' via Repo and Gerrit Discussion <repo-d...@googlegroups.com> wrote:Just to let you know, I started with cleaning up the components in Monorail now.Most components have already been changed as discussed, only some still need to be done (TODO: PolyGerrit -> WebFrontend, PolyGerrit>UX -> UX hotlist, googlesource -> googlesource hotlist).I will probably continue with this only next week.