mugs and stickers missing today

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Kristin wt

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Sep 8, 2008, 1:51:53 AM9/8/08
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Last week we left without scooping up the dirty mugs in the small
kitchen by the bookstore.
We also left the stickers on a roll /dispenser on the coffee table area.

Today they were both missing.

Anyone know where they went to?

ps. today we brought a few mugs incl. Mike's travel mug. the travel
mug was taken-- a positive sign.

Today someone gave the suggestion that we have a tub that would hold
other's personal mugs that no one else would take. He'd wash his own
in the bathroom and would reuse it each week. But same problem we have
now, either storage or transport. I can't do it alone. Is it time to
call an end to mug transport? but I'm not done yet. How come others
are?

Kristin

Joanna & Ken Bakken

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Sep 8, 2008, 9:26:39 AM9/8/08
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I was there yesterday and looked too for mugs/stickers.....

Joanna Bakken
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Kristin wt

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Sep 9, 2008, 12:59:30 AM9/9/08
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Neither was there an ad in the bulletin on stickers or mugs.

Michael Nacrelli

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Sep 9, 2008, 9:29:25 AM9/9/08
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Kristin,
 
I've said many times that I think the ceramic mug logistics are too troublesome. If we don't have enough people specifically committed to handling these important details every week, then it's probably best not to continue. This needs to be either better organized or dropped. We can't keep improvising and just hoping that all the details will somehow take care of themselves. Neither the coffee nor teardown crews are going to take responsibility for gathering used mugs each Sunday, but the coffee crew should be able to handle the stickers. Did anyone ask them last week about leaving the stickers on the table to be packed up with the other coffee supplies?
 
Also, do we have our own visible display sign promoting the use of travel mugs? Has anyone else donated any? I guess our bulletin announcement has run its course, so we need to focus our efforts on jump-starting the travel mug initiative. I'll be teaching a creation stewardship class this Fall, and I'm hoping that it will allow us to recruit others to help make things happen at the grassroots level:
 
 
Mike

Kristin wt

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Sep 10, 2008, 12:46:03 AM9/10/08
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I thought we were doing pretty good.
We went for 2 months with no publicity besides mugs in a box. it
wasn't till this 3rd month that we got a paragraph on the subject. 1
paragraph, no mention of cups.
Still we had people taking them and using them.
We even had someone leave theirs with us for storage
We did not publicize the googlegroups.
We did not solicit drivers. We were an end unto ourselves. That was our fault.

Would you bring mugs if 50 people used them? Would you do it if only
40 people used them? would you do it for 30 people? what about 20? how
about 10? Would you keep a committment if only 10 people used them?
Remember that bible story?

There are different levels of committment. Some will use mugs but
won't drive them. some will sign up for a googlegroups but won't hand
out flyers. Some will take stickers and some will bring their own
travel mug. And some are doing good just to get themselves to church.

No one has donated any travel mugs. If there is no mug station where
would they feel comfortable dropping them off? I think you should do
what you're passionate about.

I spoke with Sarah and Ananda (that previous week's crew) discussing
mugs and stickers, but did not ask them to store them outright.

I'm not expecting tear down crews to gather mugs. However, I do expect
those who feel strongly about environmentalism to be more commited
than I am. I am not the environmentalist. Have to find more people
to rotate.

Have to make it easier on the drivers.

And we should not dialogue with the consumers. Just let them take a
mug if they want or not. Don't watch the crowd or you'll get
disheartened as you see 795 of the 800 take a paper cup.

kwt

Michael Nacrelli

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Sep 12, 2008, 12:19:36 PM9/12/08
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I've just e-mailed Clark expressing my concern that our efforts are floundering, largely due to a lack of support from the church leadership. Not being able to wash or store mugs at Franklin is a major obstacle to reusable mugs catching on and becoming typical. I'm sure that people would start bringing travel mugs if the church were to phase out paper cups altogether. (The same is true for water bottles.) However, if Imago Dei doesn't really believe that environmental sustainability is more important that convenience, then our mug outreach is highly unlikely to have any significant impact. I'm willing to commit time and energy when meaningful results are achievable, but not for the sake of merely symbolic gestures.

 

Mike

 

P.S. Did Jonah ever send you a check? He just told me that he's quitting both Imago and Renovo. Both he and KB have evidently lost hope in our mission.

mnac...@verizon.net

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Sep 14, 2008, 9:32:06 PM9/14/08
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I talked to Scott Seigel today and found the missing mugs and stickers
in the "guest forum" classroom by the auditorium. I asked Scott to
store the stickers with the coffee supplies and took the mugs home.
One of them was so frighteningly nasty that I threw it away; I don't
think it could be cleaned well enough for using again.

I can bring the rest back next Sunday, but our policy now needs to be
that anyone who takes a mug must keep it. Can someone make a sign
clearly saying this?

Ironically, Scott gave me a suggestion that I'd already given to
Clark: Imago should just stop providing paper cups. (I need to ask him
what he thinks about no longer providing bottled water to the setup/
teardown volunteers and pastors.)

Mike
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