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chrisrose98
Jan 21, 2011, 1:21:56 PM1/21/11
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Hello all,
I just found the Renaissance web page and was sad to see that the shop
had closed.
Got a question for you all. I have a Jack Taylor from '72 that was
refinished by Cycl-Art a couple years ago. I had the frame spread for
130mm components at that time. The bike works great except for the
brakes - I have been having problems with the cantilever brakes not
hitting the wheels properly. After the bike was painted, I noticed
that the 2 canti posts were not welded (from the factory) at the same
height on the front fork - about 5 mm higher on one side.
For a bit of history, years ago I had to get 700c wheels and I had
some Shimano Deore I think ( http://www.stanford.edu/~crose/Bikes/JackTaylor/front2.JPG
is the best picture I have showing them before it was redone) brakes
installed and they worked. The shop told me that 27" wheels were not
available anymore and my hubs had blown out. Those brakes worked, but
now seem to not pull back well so I thought I would try to get some
more modern cantis. I have tried shorty 8's and a couple others but
they all hit the tire instead of the rim. I have tried to clean the
brakes but it seems like the black plastic covers on the back have
deformed over the years. I have searched ebay but have not seen any
NOS Shimanos like this go across.
So, I am wondering if any of you have some suggestions on either 27
wheels with a 130mm rear spread hub or know of any brakes that will
work.
Thanks! Chris
I just found the Renaissance web page and was sad to see that the shop
had closed.
Got a question for you all. I have a Jack Taylor from '72 that was
refinished by Cycl-Art a couple years ago. I had the frame spread for
130mm components at that time. The bike works great except for the
brakes - I have been having problems with the cantilever brakes not
hitting the wheels properly. After the bike was painted, I noticed
that the 2 canti posts were not welded (from the factory) at the same
height on the front fork - about 5 mm higher on one side.
For a bit of history, years ago I had to get 700c wheels and I had
some Shimano Deore I think ( http://www.stanford.edu/~crose/Bikes/JackTaylor/front2.JPG
is the best picture I have showing them before it was redone) brakes
installed and they worked. The shop told me that 27" wheels were not
available anymore and my hubs had blown out. Those brakes worked, but
now seem to not pull back well so I thought I would try to get some
more modern cantis. I have tried shorty 8's and a couple others but
they all hit the tire instead of the rim. I have tried to clean the
brakes but it seems like the black plastic covers on the back have
deformed over the years. I have searched ebay but have not seen any
NOS Shimanos like this go across.
So, I am wondering if any of you have some suggestions on either 27
wheels with a 130mm rear spread hub or know of any brakes that will
work.
Thanks! Chris
Philip Williamson
Jan 21, 2011, 5:01:14 PM1/21/11
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Hi Chris,
My first thoughts on changing the wheels, or changing the brakes:
1. Use a caliper brake in the front, if that hole in the fork crown goes all the way through.
2. Buy some 27" rims and build new wheels on your existing hubs (my LBS tried to sell me some 27" Super Champion Gentleman rims for very cheap). 27" tires are still made, but I don't know how many high-quality choices you have any more. I used to be (8 years ago?) very happy with my Continentals.
3. Buy a set of 27" wheels on eBay and use spacers on the axle to match your spacing (or just squeeze 'em in).
4. Use Paul motolites? you can move the pads up and down the arms. http://www.jrbicycles.com/storefront/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=578
I'm probably advertising my ignorance with some of these ideas, but that's why we have the group!
Good luck,
Philip
Philip Williamson
Chris Burchell
Jan 22, 2011, 11:04:36 AM1/22/11
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Ugh, I hate hearing the "they-don't-make-them-no-more" line. Velocity,
among others, makes several 27" rims. Conti and Schwalbe, even
Bontrager, 27" tires are easy to find.
There are people who could align the canti brake posts for you. Nobody
at the Shop That 27" Wheels Forgot, but somebody somewhere. Cantilever
brakes are enough of a pain to keep aligned under the best of
circumstances.
-Chris B
On Jan 21, 12:21 pm, chrisrose98 <chrisros...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I just found the Renaissance web page and was sad to see that the shop
> had closed.
>
> Got a question for you all. I have a Jack Taylor from '72 that was
> refinished by Cycl-Art a couple years ago. I had the frame spread for
> 130mm components at that time. The bike works great except for the
> brakes - I have been having problems with the cantilever brakes not
> hitting the wheels properly. After the bike was painted, I noticed
> that the 2 canti posts were not welded (from the factory) at the same
> height on the front fork - about 5 mm higher on one side.
>
> For a bit of history, years ago I had to get 700c wheels and I had
> some Shimano Deore I think (http://www.stanford.edu/~crose/Bikes/JackTaylor/front2.JPG
among others, makes several 27" rims. Conti and Schwalbe, even
Bontrager, 27" tires are easy to find.
There are people who could align the canti brake posts for you. Nobody
at the Shop That 27" Wheels Forgot, but somebody somewhere. Cantilever
brakes are enough of a pain to keep aligned under the best of
circumstances.
-Chris B
On Jan 21, 12:21 pm, chrisrose98 <chrisros...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I just found the Renaissance web page and was sad to see that the shop
> had closed.
>
> Got a question for you all. I have a Jack Taylor from '72 that was
> refinished by Cycl-Art a couple years ago. I had the frame spread for
> 130mm components at that time. The bike works great except for the
> brakes - I have been having problems with the cantilever brakes not
> hitting the wheels properly. After the bike was painted, I noticed
> that the 2 canti posts were not welded (from the factory) at the same
> height on the front fork - about 5 mm higher on one side.
>
> For a bit of history, years ago I had to get 700c wheels and I had
Jeremy Till
Jan 26, 2011, 11:16:51 PM1/26/11
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As the others have said, good 27" rims and tires are still available.
My current project is converting an old Takara "overland" touring bike
with 27" wheels and cantilevers to a fixed gear. Instead of trying to
retrofit 700c wheels I just bought 27" sun CR18 rim and formula hub
from Harris cyclery. I haven't laced, much less ridden, it yet but it
looks like a quality double wall/single eyelet rim. The geared wheels
that came on the bike are also contemporary, with Weinmann RM19 rims i
believe--i'll just use the front wheel from that set.
In terms of tires, Panaracer makes the Pasela in sizes up to 32mm for
27", Schwalbe makes a Marathon, Conti a Gatorskin--there's even a 40mm
knobby if you can fit it.
If it were me, i'd buy a pair of the 27" CR18 rims from harris and
have them laced to the 130mm hubs of your choice.
On Jan 21, 10:21 am, chrisrose98 <chrisros...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I just found the Renaissance web page and was sad to see that the shop
> had closed.
>
> Got a question for you all. I have a Jack Taylor from '72 that was
> refinished by Cycl-Art a couple years ago. I had the frame spread for
> 130mm components at that time. The bike works great except for the
> brakes - I have been having problems with the cantilever brakes not
> hitting the wheels properly. After the bike was painted, I noticed
> that the 2 canti posts were not welded (from the factory) at the same
> height on the front fork - about 5 mm higher on one side.
>
> For a bit of history, years ago I had to get 700c wheels and I had
> some Shimano Deore I think (http://www.stanford.edu/~crose/Bikes/JackTaylor/front2.JPG
My current project is converting an old Takara "overland" touring bike
with 27" wheels and cantilevers to a fixed gear. Instead of trying to
retrofit 700c wheels I just bought 27" sun CR18 rim and formula hub
from Harris cyclery. I haven't laced, much less ridden, it yet but it
looks like a quality double wall/single eyelet rim. The geared wheels
that came on the bike are also contemporary, with Weinmann RM19 rims i
believe--i'll just use the front wheel from that set.
In terms of tires, Panaracer makes the Pasela in sizes up to 32mm for
27", Schwalbe makes a Marathon, Conti a Gatorskin--there's even a 40mm
knobby if you can fit it.
If it were me, i'd buy a pair of the 27" CR18 rims from harris and
have them laced to the 130mm hubs of your choice.
On Jan 21, 10:21 am, chrisrose98 <chrisros...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I just found the Renaissance web page and was sad to see that the shop
> had closed.
>
> Got a question for you all. I have a Jack Taylor from '72 that was
> refinished by Cycl-Art a couple years ago. I had the frame spread for
> 130mm components at that time. The bike works great except for the
> brakes - I have been having problems with the cantilever brakes not
> hitting the wheels properly. After the bike was painted, I noticed
> that the 2 canti posts were not welded (from the factory) at the same
> height on the front fork - about 5 mm higher on one side.
>
> For a bit of history, years ago I had to get 700c wheels and I had
Chris Rose
Feb 1, 2011, 4:11:06 PM2/1/11
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Thanks for all the suggustions, guys. I will look into the 27 in rim. I have to test fit my brakes again to see if the extra couple mm is what I need first. I will let you know when I get this all figure out.
Chris
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