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Laurence Clark Crossen

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May 30, 2024, 12:00:20 AMMay 30
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"The relativity effect in planetary motions" by Clemence says the advance of Mercury's perihelion is calculated using "dimensionless numbers." I wonder what you all (especially Roger) think of that? I think this must be like dividing by zero or lying with statistics.

Paul Alsing

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May 30, 2024, 1:21:29 AMMay 30
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Just another relativity crank without a lick of evidence... ignore him...

r.j.an...@btinternet.com

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May 30, 2024, 4:32:25 AMMay 30
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People have pointed out - it can be explained by other theories than GR such as -> https://arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/0304104

 

Those who believe in GR never properly address why it can be explained by other theories.

 

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Laurence Clark Crossen

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May 30, 2024, 12:21:47 PMMay 30
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Relativity does not explain Mercury's perihelion advance because it does not assign a physical effect to using the speed of light in the equations. It becomes a huge free variable to crunch and throw out. Newtonian is sufficient to explain the perihelion once oblateness, axial rotation, and the latest data are employed.
 
Thanks for the link.

Laurence Clark Crossen

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May 30, 2024, 1:47:05 PMMay 30
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Fortunately no profound knowledge of physics is required to know relativity is a pseudoscience. For example, curved space is purely illogical nonsense involving reification fallacy as does the sort of non-Euclidean geometry involved in relativity. Non-Euclidean geometry is legitimate to describe surfaces other than planes such as spheres and saddles. It is not legitimate science when it reifies space.

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Laurence Clark Crossen

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May 30, 2024, 1:59:18 PMMay 30
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As you have correctly asked, "what if it's not really hard to understand" but is actually incorrect for obvious reasons.

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r.j.an...@btinternet.com

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May 30, 2024, 2:32:20 PMMay 30
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Exactly.

 

To some people - they look at relativity and realise its nonsense. Then when it comes to claim by its believers that it conforms to experiments - that just means those experiments are being understood by nonsense. 

 

While for those who believe in relativity and don't see it is nonsense - it is a mystery why they don't see it is nonsense. One possibility is - they are just trying to appear clever by pretending it is not nonsense because of the publicity that happened in 1919 that if you believe it then you are deemed clever. 

 

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As you have correctly asked, "what if it's not really hard to understand" but is actually incorrect for obvious reasons. 

 

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Laurence Clark Crossen

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May 30, 2024, 2:43:01 PMMay 30
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Yes, the followers are just as phony as Einstein. They are pretending to be intelligent and doing a bad job of it. Einstein kept the LT and discarded the ether when the only purpose of the LT was to save the ether from the null result. This proves he did not understand at all. How could he have thought of the photoelectric effect?

r.j.an...@btinternet.com

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May 30, 2024, 3:45:50 PMMay 30
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His wife was working in the lab of Lenard. Wiki says of Lenard -> One of his most important contributions was the experimental realization of the photoelectric effect.

 

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Yes, the followers are just as phony as Einstein. They are pretending to be intelligent and doing a bad job of it. Einstein kept the LT and discarded the ether when the only purpose of the LT was to save the ether from the null result. This proves he did not understand at all. How could he have thought of the photoelectric effect? 

 

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Laurence Clark Crossen

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May 30, 2024, 4:23:34 PMMay 30
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Einstein's Nobel Prize was for the photoelectric effect yet he did not discover it.

Laurence Clark Crossen

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May 30, 2024, 4:27:02 PMMay 30
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Einstein even gave his ex wife his Nobel Prize money.

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Laurence Clark Crossen

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May 30, 2024, 4:33:41 PMMay 30
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He also made ad hominem attacks against Lenard.

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Laurence Clark Crossen

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May 30, 2024, 4:37:04 PMMay 30
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I don't have any confidence in the decision of a committee that gave Nobel's to Arafat, Obama and Einstein. That is truly blundering. Arafat was a terrorist who hated Jews. Obama had done nothing to earn it, same as Einstein.

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r.j.an...@btinternet.com

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May 30, 2024, 6:25:02 PMMay 30
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see video: Lenard versus Einstein ->

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=4ZQF0eBh794

 

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He also made ad hominem attacks against Lenard. 

 

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Laurence Clark Crossen

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May 30, 2024, 6:51:05 PMMay 30
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gracias

Laurence Clark Crossen

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May 30, 2024, 7:49:04 PMMay 30
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She starts right off with a mad ad hominem attack on Lenard. The truth is the other way around.

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Laurence Clark Crossen

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May 30, 2024, 7:49:42 PMMay 30
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How about a descent into madness and Zionism?

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Laurence Clark Crossen

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May 30, 2024, 10:25:48 PMMay 30
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According to the video Einstein frequently mentioned Lenard in his work, contrary to plagiarism claims.

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Laurence Clark Crossen

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May 30, 2024, 10:37:19 PMMay 30
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A large part of the video is ad hominem attacks on Lenard.
 So, the law of the photoelectric effect amounts to Einstein's equation.

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Laurence Clark Crossen

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May 30, 2024, 10:51:09 PMMay 30
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The idea of isostasy was originally thought of in 1750 by R.J. Boscovich.

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r.j.an...@btinternet.com

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May 31, 2024, 3:19:46 AMMay 31
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Unfortunately, Lenard was a Nazi

 

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She starts right off with a mad ad hominem attack on Lenard. The truth is the other way around.

 

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r.j.an...@btinternet.com

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May 31, 2024, 3:34:52 AMMay 31
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plagiarism is in relation to relativity.

 

Einstein does mention Lenard - "The usual understanding, that the energy of light is distributed over the space through which it travels
in a continuous way encounters extraordinarily large difficulties in attempts to explain photo-electric
phenomena, as has been presented in the groundbreaking article by Mr. Lenard. " https://sites.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/lectures/Rotman_Summer_School_2013/Einstein_1905_docs/Einstein_Light_Quantum_WikiSource.pdf

 

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According to the video Einstein frequently mentioned Lenard in his work, contrary to plagiarism claims.

 

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r.j.an...@btinternet.com

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May 31, 2024, 3:48:28 AMMay 31
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That's still ongoing - apparently why Hamas took hostages from Israel was because Israel imported/had  red heifers

 

religious signifinace of red heifer at -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_heifer

 

given religious problems like that - there will never be peace in Middle East

 



 

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How about a descent into madness and Zionism?

 

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May 31, 2024, 3:53:02 AMMay 31
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May 31, 2024, 7:10:22 AMMay 31
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Not dealing with this Saturday-

 

But one of the areas that does not make sense with what relativity believers believe is the ether-

 

Einstein 1905 seems to discard ether

Einstein 1920 seems to bring ether back

 

Relativity believers ususally say that there is no ether and cite authority of Einstein.

 

But relativity believers do not explain how that connects with Einstein says - he seems to say opposite to what they say he says.

 

Ether means light medium; light is a wave so needs medium; relativity believers claim light is  a wave without a medium- that does not make sense; and relativity believers fail to explain how it can make sense. So, relativity believers just want to believe things that do not make sense. 

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