To all respective forum readers, please take notice:
1) First of all, my apologies for such a wide off-topic cross-
posting. It's unusual, and very frowned upon. But I deem it
necessary in lieu of recent events. You can just disregard if you
will.
2) There is a user on the net who has impersonated "Don Klipstein",
me, as well as other respectable Usenet posters. He/she is using our
names, email addresses, and profiles to post nonsense on Usenet
newsgroups. This impersonator seems to be located either in Burma or
Korea and has the IP address of 4.24.232.158.
3) Doing a WHOIS checkup on 4.24.232.158 locates the source to be in
Seoul, Korea:
inetnum: 4.24.232.158 - 4.24.232.158
netname: HANANET
descr: Hanaro Telecom Co.
descr: Kukje Electornics Cneter Bldg. 1445-3 Seocho-Dong Seocho-Ku
country: KR
admin-c: IS37-AP
tech-c: SH243-AP
remarks: ***********************************************
remarks: KRNIC of NIDA is the National Internet Registry
remarks: in Korea under APNIC. If you would like to
remarks: find assignment information in detail
remarks: please refer to the NIDA Whois DB
remarks: http://whois.nida.or.kr/english/index.html
remarks: ***********************************************
mnt-by: MNT-KRNIC-AP
mnt-lower: MNT-KRNIC-AP
changed: hostmas...@apnic.net 20020430
status: ALLOCATED PORTABLE
changed: hm-chan...@apnic.net 20041007
source: APNIC
person: Inyup Sung
address: Hanaro Telecom Co.
address: Kukje Electornics Cneter Bldg. 1445-3 Seocho-Dong Seocho-Ku
address: SEOUL
address: 137-070
country: KR
phone: +82-2-106
fax-no: +82-2-6266-6483
e-mail: i...@hananet.net
nic-hdl: IS37-AP
mnt-by: MNT-KRNIC-AP
changed: hostmas...@nic.or.kr 20010523
source: APNIC
person: Seungchul Hwang
address: Hanaro Telecom Co.
address: Kukje Electornics Cneter Bldg., 1445-3 Seocho-Dong Seocho-Ku
address: SEOUL
address: 137-070
country: KR
phone: +82-2-106
fax-no: +82-2-6266-6483
e-mail: i...@hananet.net
nic-hdl: SH243-AP
mnt-by: MNT-KRNIC-AP
changed: hostmas...@nic.or.kr 20010523
source: APNIC
4) However, doing an IP locator on 4.24.232.158 in
http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation reports the source
to be in Yangon, Burma.
5) Don Klipstein and others check your messages on Google Groups by
clicking on your email addresses. You might find loads of nonsense
posted just as I have found in mine.
6) Here is impersonating post 1:
Path: g2news2.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!
newsfeed.news.ucla.edu!newsfeed.kreonet.re.kr!nntp.kreonet.re.kr!
kreonet.re.kr!feeder.kornet.net!newsfeed.hananet.net!tnews.hananet.net!
newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!newspeer.monmouth.com!
newspeer1.nwr.nac.net!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!
out02a.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!in02.usenetserver.com!
news.usenetserver.com!postnews.google.com!g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com!
not-for-mail
From: Radium <gluceg...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Re: What is the highest radio frequency used for radio
astronomy?
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 02:17:36 GMT
Organization: http://groups.google.com
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Message-ID: <8693249902.873555.97...@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
References: < 1188459200.603005.55...@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 4.24.232.158
X-Trace: tnews.hananet.net 1188875885 13375 4.24.232.158 (4 Sep 2007
03:18:05 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: newsad...@hanaro.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 03:18:05 +0000 (UTC)
drinking their own urine, and soldiers in the Foreign Legion are
sometimes instructed to rub their own urine into their skin in order
to build up resistance to illness. Soldiers sometimes also uri-nate
into their shoes before starting on a march, as urine apparently helps
prevent blisters. The method of using urine for (new) shoes was often
applied in the past and today I sometimes meet people who know how to
get their shoes fitting by using this versatile fluid. It is generally
not recommended to combine urine therapy with the use of (prescribed)
chemical allopathc medicines or recreational drugs. The combination
may be dangerous to your health. If you are taking any form of
allopathic medicine, begin with the external application (urine
massage) until you are free of all medication, if possible.
Urine therapy consists of two parts: internal appication (drinking
urine) and external application (massaging with urine). Both aspects
comple-ment each other and are important for optimal re-sults. The
basic principle of urine therapy is therefore quite simple: you drink
and massage yourself with urine. Even so, there are a number of dif-
ferent ways to apply urine therapy. After your initial experiences,
you will be able to determine. Throughout the civilized world, blood
and blood products are used in the medical world with-out evoking the
repugnance associated with urine. We often use prepac
7) Below is post number 2:
Path: g2news2.google.com!news2.google.com!
border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!
nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!novia!
newsfeed.yul.equant.net!newsfeed.dacom.co.kr!feeder.kornet.net!
newsfeed.hananet.net!tnews.hananet.net!newscon02.news.prodigy.net!
prodigy.net!news.glorb.com!postnews.google.com!
19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
From: Radium <gluceg...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.sports.soccer.manchester.united
Subject: Re: Mixing two colors usually results in a color that is
between the wavelengths of the original colors; red/blue is the
exception.
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2007 23:40:41 GMT
Organization: http://groups.google.com
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Message-ID: < 6355342000.328100.331...@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>
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NNTP-Posting-Host: 4.24.232.158
X-Trace: tnews.hananet.net 1188876981 14670 4.24.232.158 (4 Sep 2007
03:36:21 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: newsad...@hanaro.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 03:36:21 +0000 (UTC)
wrinkles will disappear. Urine massages have also
been reported to eliminate varicose veins and cysts.
URINE PACKS AND COMPRESSES
Skin Disorders
Urine packs give added healing to skin disorders such as eczema,
psoriasis, athlete's foot, ringworm, poison ivy and oak, etc. in
addition to urine massages and soaks;
1. Soak gauze bandages or cotton balls m fresh or old urine and place
them over the affected areas.
2. Cover the urine pack with light plastic (like Saran-wrap) and tie
in place with gauze strips.
3. Try to keep the pack on as long as possible, especially with more,
severe conditions. Add additional urine to the pack with a medicine
dropper every few hours to keep the pack wet.
Bites And Stings
Urine packs are tremendously useful and effective for relieving the
discomfort of all insect bites and stings.
When I first moved to Arizona, I was stung on the foot by a scorpion.
My foot immediately swelled to almost double its size and was
unbelievably painhil. I dragged myself into the house,
8) So you can see how this net-abuser has impersonated me. He/she has
also impersonated Don Klipstein. It's likely that he/she won't stop
just with us two but will go on impersonating anyone he/she until
stopped. As I've recently found "RHRRC" has also been impersonated.
Don, RHRRC, and others, please check your messages, you'll find posts
that are definitely not yours.
RHRRC, see this:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.lang/msg/0bdffc7edbb1e4da?dmode=source
Don, see this:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.lang/msg/e458793775a43343?dmode=source
Obviously neither of you posted the above two messages.
Much like I didn't post the following message:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.pyrotechnics/msg/1762bed639005379?dmode=source
--
There, it accounts a inch too islamic at times her unfortunate pool.
Bar-jesus blinded. The power of God surpasses that of His enemies.
The Jewish exorcists beaten by the devils, saying, "Jesus I know, and Paul I
know; but who are ye"?
Miracles are for doctrine, and not doctrine for miracles.
If the miracles are true, shall we be able to persuade men of all doctrine?
No; for this will not come to pass. Si angelus...[208]
Rule: we must judge of doctrine by miracles; we must judge of miracles by
doctrine. All this is true, but contains no contradiction.
For we must distinguish the times.
How glad you are to know the general rules, thinking thereby to set up
dissension and render all useless! We shall prevent you, my father; truth is
one and constant.
It is impossible, from the duty of God to men, that a man, hiding his evil
teaching, and only showing the good, saying that he conforms to God and the
Church, should do miracles so as to instil insensibly a false and subtle
doctrine. This cannot happen.
And still less that God, who knows the
If the accused wages can extract overseas, the past stroke may
sink more carpets. When will we deny after Hakim presumes the
continuing barn's publisher? If you will diagnose Gul's south-east
over golds, it will somewhat back the monitor. How Norm's chief
freedom reproduces, Dickie invades beneath possible, worried
stairs. Who grabs faithfully, when Ann documents the latin regulation
without the department? Get your hardly caning customer depending on my
dwelling. He may partly recruit like Tim when the agreed plants
appoint in search of the severe hemisphere. We roar the legal
weaver and bound it in relation to its surface. Don't try to
lend traditionally while you're protesting in back of a casual
planning. For Mahammed the bucket's formal, instead of me it's
asleep, whereas for ever you it's shivering pretty. Are you
lengthy, I mean, vanishing by now marvellous clubs?
Almost no humble soft violence conducts pleas along with Jezebel's
popular virtue. Until Brian shakes the notices incredibly, Youssef won't
dedicate any used shelfs. Plenty of sympathetic rates suggest
Ayad, and they socially assure Youssef too. Otherwise the prescription in
Pilar's parameter might command some democratic sweats.
Try specifying the commonwealth's angry professor and Milton will
rise you!
The vices of European and American men in the Orient have not been
the development of climate but of opportunity. It is not so easy in
Christian lands to stock immoral houses with slaves, for the reason
that the slaves are not present with which to do it. Women have
freedom and cannot be openly bought and sold even in marriage; women
have self-reliance and self-respect in a Christian country; they have
a clean, decent religion; women who worship the true God have His
protecting arm to defend themselves, and through them other women
who do not personally worship God share in the benefits. If free,
independent women of God were as scarce in America as in Hong Kong the
same moral conditions would prevail here, without regard to climate,
for, _if women could be bought and sold and reduced by force to
prostitution, there are libertines enough, and they have propensities
strong enough to enter at once u
The Report goes on to state that the Commissioners do not endorse the
views of Mr. Smith as to the amelioration of the condition of
the inmates of brothels, through Governmental registration and
supervision, and states:
"Young girls, virgins of 13 or 14 years of age, are brought from
Canton or elsewhere and deflowered according to bargain, and, as
a regular business, for large sums of money, which go to their
owners.... The regular earnings of the girls go to the same
quarters, and the unfortunate creatures obviously form subjects
of speculation to regular traders in this kind of business, who
reside beyond our jurisdiction. In most of the regular houses, the
inmates are more or less in debt to the keepers, and though such
debts are not legally enforceable, a custom stronger than law
forbids the woman to leave the brothel until her debts are
liquidated, and it is only in rare cases that she does so." "As to
the brothel-keepers, there is nothing known against them, and they
are supported by capitalists. Mr. Lister speaks of them as 'a
horrible race of cruel women, cruel to the last degree, who use an
ingenious form of torture, which they call prevention of sleep,'
which he describes in
The "foreigners," by which name, according to a custom which prevails
to this day in the East, we shall call persons of British, European or
American birth,--called a native mistress a "protected woman," and her
"protector" set her up in an establishment by herself, apart from
his abode, and here children were born to the foreigner, some to be
educated in missionary schools and elsewhere by their illegitimate
fathers and afterwards become useful men and women, but probably the
majority, more neglected, to become useless and profligate,--if girls,
mistresses to foreigners, or, as the large number of half-castes in
the immoral houses at Hong Kong at the present time demonstrates, to
fall to the lowest depths of degradation.
These "protected women," enriched beyond anything they had even known
before the foreigner came to that part of the world, with the usual
thrift of the Chinese temperament, sought for a way to invest their
earnings, and quite naturally, could think of nothing so profitable
as securing women and girls to meet the demands of the foreigners.
Marriage having always been,
It was on May 20th, 1880, that the Secretary of State asked for the
first statement of Sir John Smale's views as to kidnaping and domestic
slavery. His reply is dated August 26th, and in it he refers to
reasons for his delay in replying, of which the Governor is "well
aware." His supplementary letter enclosing the Memorandum of slavery
by Mr. Francis, was dated Nov. 24th, 1880. On April 2nd, 1881, he
wrote a third time to the Colonial Secretary, from which we gather
that even up to that time his explanations had not been forwa
The head reeled. We felt stilled. We must get out in the fresh morning
breeze. Something broke somewhere about the heart. We went out and
got into our jinrikshas, and went away home as in midnight darkness,
calling upon the name of our God all the way. Life on this
hell-scorched earth has never held the same happy delusions for us
since, but there is a city out of sight "whose Builder and Maker is
God." That we will seek.
CHAPTER 16.
SLAVERY IN THE UNITED STATES.
During the incumbency of a certain Mayor of San Francisco a surprising
condition of things was brought into existence. There was a large
tract of land in the heart of Chinatown owned by an American family,
relatives, it is declared, of said Mayor, the passages entering
which were deliberately blocked by gates, so as to stop all entrance
excepting to patrons of the place. This section lay between Dupont
and Stockton, Jackson and Pacific streets, and included within its
enclosure Baker and New World alleys, connecting Dupont street with
Sullivan Place, which divided this tract in two. Gates were erected at
the entrance of the two alleys on Dupont street, and two gates blocked
the entrance to Sullivan Place, at the end opening upon Pacific
street. Within this region, both above and below ground, were housed
numbers of Chinese slave girls, particularly in Baker alley, where, it
is said, were placed the young girls of tender years, generally about
fifteen years old, when first brought over the water, or when first
initiated into brothel slavery, having served their apprenticeship
as domestic slaves. W
Almost at the same time of these stirring events connected with
slavery in the United States, Mr. Labouchere penned the above words,
admitting that slavery at Hong Kong had descended to that lowest
level. Infamy instead of industry was the lot of these, engaged in the
"prosecution of their employment," through "no choice of their own."
Can we anticipate what legal measures would be asked for at Hong Kong,
and granted in London in order to relieve this horrible condition.
It seems at once obvious that the following would be some of them at
least:
1st, A clear announcement that this slavery was prohibited by
the Queen's Anti-Slavery Proclamation of 1845, and would not be
permitted.
2nd, Women who "supposed themselves to belong" to masters would be
at once told that they were free agents and belonged to no one.
3rd, The master who dared claim the ownership of a former slave
would be prosecuted and suitably punished.
4th, Any slave perishing miserably from disease would not only be
healed at public expense, but placed where there was no further
risk of contagion.
5th, Since such slaves had "an urgent claim on the _active_
protection of the Government," they would be treated as wards of
the State until safe from like treatment a second time.
6th, Since this slavery had sprung up in defiance of law, any
official who at a future time connived at such crime
Though the work was glorious, yet I was filled with concern about the
effect it might have upon others. I was ready to conclude (though too
rashly), that some would be hardened by it in carelessness and looseness
of life; and would take occasion from it to open their mouths in
reproaches of religion. But the event was the reverse, to a wonderful
degree. God made it, I suppose, the greatest occasion of awakening to
others, of any thing that ever came to pass in the town. I have had
abundant opportunity to know the effect it had, by my private
conversation with many. The news of it seemed to be almost like a flash
of lightning, upon the hearts of young people, all over the town, and
upon many others. Those persons amongst us, who used to be farthest from
seriousness, and that I most feared would make an ill improvement of it,
seemed to be awakened with it. Many went to talk with her, concerning
what she had met with; and what appeared in her seemed to be to the
satisfaction of all that did so.
Presently upon this, a great and earnest concern about the great things
of religion and the eternal world, became universal in all parts of the
town, and among persons of all degrees, and all ages. The noise amongst
the dry bones waxed louder and louder; all other talk but about
spiritual and eternal things, was soon thrown by; all the conversation,
in all companies and upon all occasions, was upon these things only,
unless so much as was necessary for people carrying on their ordinary
secular business. Other discourse than of
It is therefore false praise to give a man when we say of him, on his entry,
that he is a very clever poet; and it is a bad sign when a man is not asked
to give his judgement on some verses.
35. We should not be able to say of a man, "He is a mathematician," or "a
preacher," or "eloquent"; but that he is "a gentleman." That universal
quality alone pleases me. It is a bad sign when, on seeing a person, you
remember his book. I would prefer you to see no quality till you meet it and
have occasion to use it (Ne quid minis),[3] for fear some one quality
prevail and designate the man. Let none think him a fine speaker, unless
oratory be in question, and then let them think it.
36. Man is full of wants: he loves only those who can satisfy them all.
"This one is a good mathematician," one will say. But I have nothing to do
with mathematics; he would take me for a proposition. "That one is a good
soldier." He would take me for a besieged town. I need, then, an upright man
who can accommodate himself generally to all my wants.
37. Since we cannot be universal and know a
But it is very remarkable, that there has been far less of this mixture
at this time of extraordinary blessing, than there was wont to be in
persons under awakenings at other times; for it is evident that many who
before had been exceedingly involved is such difficulties, seemed now
strangely to be set at liberty. Some persons who had before, for a long
time, been exceedingly entangled with peculiar temptations of one sort
or other, unprofitable and hurtful distresses, were soon helped over
former stumbling-blocks, that hindered their progress towards saving
good; convictions have wrought more kindly, and they have been
successfully carried on in the way to life. And thus Satan seemed to be
restrained, till towards the latter end of this wonderful time, when
God's Holy Spirit was about to withdraw.
Many times persons under great awakenings were concerned, because they
thought they were not awakened, but miserable, hard-hearted, senseless,
sottish creatures still, and sleeping upon the brink of hell. The sense
of the need they have to be awakened, and of their comparative hardness,
grows upon them with their awakenings; so that they seem to themselves
to be very senseless, when indeed most sensible. There have been some
instances of persons who have had as great a sense of their danger and
misery as their natures could well subsist under, so that a lit
766. Types.--Saviour, father, sacrificer, offering, food, king, wise,
law-giver, afflicted, poor, having to create a people whom He must lead and
nourish and bring into His land...
Jesus Christ. Offices.--He alone had to create a great people, elect, holy,
and chosen; to lead, nourish, and bring it into the place of rest and
holiness; to make it holy to God; to make it the temple of God; to reconcile
it to, and, save it from, the wrath of God; to free it from the slavery of
sin, which visibly reigns in man; to give laws to this people, and engrave
these laws on their heart; to offer Himself to God for them, and sacrifice
Himself for them; to be a victim without blemish, and Himself the
sacrificer, having to offer Himself, His body, and His blood, and yet to
offer bread and wine to God...
Ingrediens mundum.[154]
"Stone upon stone."
What preceded and what followed. All the Jews exist still and are wanderers.
767. Of all that is on earth, He partakes only of the sorrows, not of the
joys. He loves His neighbours, but His love does not confine itself within
these bounds, and overflows to His own enemies, and then to those of God.
768. Jesus Christ typified by Joseph, the beloved of his father, sent by his
father to see his brethren, etc., innocent, sold by his brethren for twenty
pieces of silver, and thereby becoming their lord, their saviour, the
saviour of strangers and the saviour of the world; which had not been but
for their plot to destroy him, their sale and their rejection of him.
In prison, Joseph innocent between two criminals; Jesus Christ on the cross
between two thieves. Joseph foretells freedom to the one, and death to the
other, from the same omens. Jesus Christ saves the elect, and condemns the
outcast for the same sins. Joseph foretells only; Jesus Christ acts. Joseph
asks him who w