Why do you use a framework?

[gabor]

In the past I have used many frameworks... Zend Framework, Code Igniter, Kohana and more..
However IMHO frameworks make things too complex and I feel I no longer really need them.
For instance I don't see the advantages of using Symfony or Zend Framework.
Today I mostly use either a micro framework (http://flightphp.com/) or just a routing library. Then I use RedBeanPHP (of course) for ORM, StampTE (http://gabordemooij.com/se/) for templating, Swift for mailing and jQuery for my Javascript needs (I never use a Javascript framework either, just libraries).

What do you think about frameworks/libraries?

Cheers,
Gabor

[Mochammad Masbuchin]

I used to hate framework too because of many unused, bloated functionality. Then I switched to micro framework. However, since my app became more mature, using micro framework really make stuff messed up. In the end, I used framework-like folder structure for the sake of refactoring.

Guess what? I'm in love with laravel now :)

[bill]

For a beginner/intermediate developer (like me ) , I think frameworks are valuable. Its an all-in-one solution and may help introduce solutions and concepts that a beginner may not be familiar with. Also it can create a large community from which assistance can be provided. I use codeigniter and in future will be working with laravel.

Bill

[Marco Afonso]

Hi,

I agree with Daniel. It depends how complex the project is and how many people will work on them. A popular framework is like a "common language" on a team of developers.

When the project is simple and it is just me, I'm happy with just a Router and RB.

Cheers