Fly app

[Jean-claude Millet]

Hi every body !

it's not realy to help you,because i'm not a developer,but i was thinking for my personnal use and many other users in the world .

is it possible to anybody to develop an application for paragliding and delta please ?

  the application for ski and snow board contain yet useful informations about locating and ploting moves, speed informations etc ....

a specific need is for exemple altitude and variation (variometer) if the barometric chip is acurate  and able to detec very litle variations,

 it might be possible to do this

if somebody is interested on this project , join me i'll explain the range expected or how it could be nice to be displayed.

for sure both system as to be setable ("metric system" and "bad system" lol ) (i'm french , but very nice and not too proud and fun too)

thank you for your attention

have a nice geek...

[Jean-claude Millet]

Hi

May be a good idea to solve this problem (expensive,unfortunatly)

here is a component called "asi flynet" http://www.asinstrument.ch/pages/flynet-solution

which communicate with an android app installed on  phone or pad  via blue tooth

so now the questions is : is it possible to link both MOD LIVE and component on the phone via blue tooth

and if it is possible to set two connections at the same time. There is only to display what is on the phone dirrectly in the MOD LIVE 

let me know what do you think about this architecture ? will it works ?

thank you

[Simon Beaumont]

Hi Jean-Claude,

I am also a pilot and had the exact same idea when I saw this. I might spend some time digging into the sdk to see what is possible for the Recon and also the MOD live.

Simon

[dan_adv]

We have just developed a flight App called MICRONAV.

[Andrew Stakhov]

What is this app? Can you post link?

I'm currently working on a project to add integration with Flytec 6030 for hang gliding. This is more oriented towards comp flying tho.

[Jean-claude Millet]

hi everyboby 

nice Andrew let me know when it is done.

because i can have 6015 from flytec too do you think your project could be compatible with ?

the only deference is based on embeded calculator isn't it?

was a bit "away" and left this forum down for a week or two but i'm realy interested on this application.

and i till don't have any toys for christmass this could help me to make my choice .

was thinking to replace my "old" gopro hero with hero3 or coutour2+

for sure all thoose ideas are imbricated ....so,that's realy hard to make a choice.

for the ones who own modlive yet, is it so great skiing whith ?even if i can't use it for gliding  ?

 make me dream...

ciao tutti

[Andrew Stakhov]

No, 6015 doesn't have a bluetooth interface so it won't work. I haven't received a recon unit yet so I haven't had a chance to test the resolution of the pressure sensor but I'm guessing it's not as good as the one from flytec. Even a 6030 requires a bluetooth module to be added which is an addon.

I'll be doing integration with another product as well which will provide a high accuracy pitot tube (airspeed) and pressure sensor data. Stay tuned. 

Keep in mind that what I'm doing with the device will be outside of Recon SDK so it's possibly they won't approve it to the appstore. Their api is simply too "primitive" for an aviation based implementation. Further updates on the device will be discussed either at hanggliding.org or ozreport.com forums (I hang out under username macsux).

[Dave Sirockin]

I'm a PG pilot and a software developer. I'd be quite interested in developing something as well if nobody else is doing it, or participating in a group effort.

[Dave Sirockin]

Is this thread dead now? Did anybody do anything about this? I'm still keen!

[Andrew Stakhov]

As I have mentioned in my previous post if you want updates see hanggliding.org forums. I posted update recently http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=27400

First version will focus on integration with Flytec 6030 for secondary sensor data. I rarely come here, so watch any status updates on those forums. The app is still in progress and I'm hoping to have a first prototype out within a month or two.

[Jean-claude Millet]

Hi
Sorry dave and andrew...
Great job Andrew .ithink it will really usefull for many people may be for me ...but 6030 is about 600euros more for sure an app even if it is a bit less acurate would be more interisting... And i:thinking about really inovatives functions sorry i don't tell more....
Dave ,just bought mod live... Gona download sdk
And have a first look ....
I'm till interested on subject and as i told you some inovatives ideas so just ask for what information you need

[Andrew Stakhov]

Next phase of my project I will add support for built in sensors in the goggle however, the resolution of the pressure sensor isn't going to be great, it's about 1m, vs 10cm on 6030. Also you don't have airspeed sensor, so the usefulness of information will be rather limited. Navigation module is something I can add, but free fliers are mostly concerned with vario as primary instrument and I just don't think the goggle's accuracy is good for this kind of thing (better then nothing I guess). At this point I'm focusing on integration with 6030 because the price point of the device and it's usefulness seem to be point towards competition based pilots.

[Thomas Hirsch]

Cheers.

I just wanted to give a shout that I'm interested. I'm a paraglider pilot, flying with the FlyNet 2 bluetooth variometer and either Gaggle or XCSoar apps for android. I added FlyNet support to Gaggle myself. 

So, obviously, the next step is to make use of that HUD display, and port some functionality into a Recon app. 

I'm not certain yet whether to cut out the phone in between completely, and integrate core functions like air speed, sink rate and elevation alarm/airspace into recon, or use the phone in-between as an extra storage and computation unit, but I definitely want to see what is possible. Since I use the first version of the flynet, I need my phone to produce sound anyway. 

[Thomas Hirsch]

Since nobody else is posting their code, I'll do it:

https://github.com/relet/Recon-HUD-Paragliding

The app is completely basic at this stage, just displaying Recon data in a more paragliding friendly manner - but communication with bluetooth variometers works already and we can harvest logic from the Gaggle app for android, or just connect to gaggle directly. 

Please feel free to join in, or come with ideas. 

[Stu Smith]

NOTE: my last 2 attempts to post this have been deleted!! Why ?? Please contact me if there is a problem.

Again - I post below:

Thomas - great news. I am building something similar for paramotoring:

My initial plan is to build a simple flying app for it (the app it comes with is very skiing focused).
 
basically:
 
-alti
-speed
-time in air
-distance covered
-distance and direction from takeoff
-direction of travel.
 
But after that I'd be keen to collaborate with the PPGps (Android) and ivariomenter (iOS)  on an interface which would let it connect to an android phone running PPGps and give access to some of it's more advanced features. 
 
I'm thinking we could agree a basic inteface across BT where I could control basic elements of PPGps (via the MOD live and its controller), and allow certain more advanced info to be remotely displayed in the MOD live screen (for example the excellent glide path, wind direction, etc). Also the MOD live has a barometer in it, so could provide baro data to PPGps too (I know you support interfaced like FlyNet2, etc)
 
If possible, I'd like to think about whether they interface could be OS agnostic, so I could also support ivariometer on iOS, but it is just a thought.

Initially I'd also be interested in collaborating with you Thomas ? perhaps sharing code on github, etc.

So.. lets see if third time lucky or if someone deletes this post again, and doesn't even have the decency to email me the reason!!
 

[Bryan Galusha]

I see the post!  I don't think it got deleted this time.  Interested in similar information for HUD of a personal drone, will be watching development with interest.  Too many other projects ongoing right now to help right now, I apologize.

Can't wait to hear more,

Bryan

[Kyle]

Hey Stu,

We haven't been deleting your posts, but Google Groups has been auto-flagging them as spam for some reason. I added your account to the list of trusted accounts so there shouldn't be any problems posting in the future.

Cheers,

Kyle

[Stu Smith]

thanks Kyle.

stu

[Stu Smith]

Hi, just an update on my app:

 

I have completed alpha version ,and now flown with it fitted into my helmet 4 times. All succesfully.

 

I have put together a youtube video showing the fitting to the helmet (I have reversed it and fitted in top left of vision as that works better for flying), and also the features of my app:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGbS5HmVdps

 

summary:

 

Attached is an update of the latest version in 'real size'. the H icon always shows how to get home, and the triangle is wind direction.

Obviously - not a lot of screen real estate so important to keep info clean and quick to see.

So the compass rose rotates so that UP is always your direction (N in the example)

the H rotates to always show the relative bearing to your takeoff (so straight ahead in this case)

the triangle rotates to show the relative bearing of the wind (also straight ahead in this case).

I'll probably tart it up a bit yet, plus make it selectable between ground speed and airspeed.

At the moment I've made it zero out alti at takeoff, and show AGL from takeoff field, but again, can make configurable later.

Status at bottom is just for development, but shows gps lock (Y/N) and battery percentage

stu