New at Captcha. Need help getting it on a working GoDaddy form submission page.

[Ohmster]

I am totally new at this captcha stuff and this reCaptcha really looks like the thing I want to use. My issue is that when I put the two basic commands given into the form.html page, it does not work. I can see the captcha come up, I can answer it successfully or fail. In either case, nothing happens. If a visitor or robot clicks the existing "Submit" button, the form is sent and the "Thank You" page comes up in response. I don't know whether to remove the Submit button and allow Captcha to issue the Submit function or even how to do it.

To make this easier, let me show you the web page:
http://www.addictionandrecoverysolution.com/form.html

That is the Form Submission page and I must find a way to keep the spam at bay. Just getting it to work with the GoDaddy webformmailer.php option was a job in itself. Now that I have the form created and tested, it works and has worked quite well for several months, adding catcha to it is very difficult. No matter what I try it either does not look good, does not work, or both.

What I need is someone with experience doing this stuff is to look over my form and show me how or where to insert the Captcha script. To make that a bit easier to do, I have attached the form.html and stylesheet.css in a zip file as the form will look terrible without the style sheet. The top menu will not work w/out the SpryAssetts and graphics, but that is not the point. It is the Form that must work when the correct captcha response is given.

Can somebody with experience help me with this please? Thank you.

[Kevin Hynes]

The widget will not submit the form or keep it from being submitted. The way it's supposed to work is that the widget will add a g-recaptcha-response value to your form, if the recaptcha has been filled out successfully. But you then need to have your code on the server that handles the form validate the value by connecting to google's server and sending the value and your secret. If you do a search you shouldn't have much trouble finding sample code that does that.

I think the thing to understand is that a robot will not be filling out the captcha nor (most likely) be sending any value for g-recaptcha-response, nor will it be bothered by anything your page might do with javascript. So if you don't do any checks of the value on the server, the recaptcha really does nothing but annoy your users.

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[Ohmster]

...server side. Since this is on a GoDaddy low cost Linux server, I seriously doubt that I would get any help from them. I actually did call the GoDaddy tech help line to ask what kind of captcha that they might have available for these accounts. The tech had no idea and no information for how to pages to send me to. I have always used things like Matt's Scripting Archive and his form mailer script. But GoDaddy will not allow any sort of form mail but for their own, in the site root is a script called webformmailer.php. We do not touch it or do anything with it. They give us a sample mail script and I used it to create my own form mail page that works. The recipient of the form mail is not specified in the form, but you must enter that email address into a GoDaddy control panel. Then any form mail submitted is sent to that recipient. Worse, it buffers the form mails and sends them in bulk, rather than instantly as most form mailers do.

I can do html and web pages but am a little new to this server side/client side stuff. Client side, my pages, I create and modify. What exactly would one have to modify or create on "The Server Side"?

Thanks for the prompt reply, Kevin.
Paul

[Ohmster]

Apparently it only took a day for this question to drop off the map.

I do not quite understand Captcha. What I thought is that it would produce a "problem to solve" on the form submission page. If the visitor gets it right, the form is submitted. If the visitor cannot perform the task or gets it wrong, the form is NOT submitted. As far as I know, all of this is a bit of script placed on the form.html page. The rest would "take care of itself". Apparently I am wrong.

Now it was brought to my attention that there are things to be configured on the web server host. What things? GoDaddy has a "Control Panel" of sorts, but nothing regarding captcha. Can someone tell me please what exactly must be done on the web server for captcha to work? Or if you have a URL to an instruction page, that would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time.

[Toni Shortsleeve]

Hi Paul,

I've only just joined the forum and came across our question today. Did you ever get a response that was helpful?

 

I don't think it has to do with GoDaddy. I think that it has to do with the template you are using.

There are errors in your html, and you have 7 items blocked by robots.txt.

I've attached what I found when I researched for your answer.

 

Did you place the required meta tag in your header? Did you place the captcha at the bottom of the form? Did you add the verification code in your post?

 

I know it seems like a lot, but it's all fairly easy to fix. I'd be happy to help...

As to Captcha, I'm still learning, but I'd be happy to share when I find out the answers.

 

Aloha,

Koni

[Paul Baio]

Aloha Koni!

 

Wow, what a nice person you are! Some of these forums really do not help anyone. No, I never got any direct help with this or got it to work right. But I do appreciate ANY help I can get and I too think it will work with GoDaddy. I have been doing “Everything Computer” since 1985 and make good extra money doing it. I really am a top electronic technician, graduated tech school in 1982, top of the class. I have done lots of web mailer forms but I like the Matt’s Scripting Archive CGI files and have had very good luck with them. I can for example, make some fields required such as email address. If the @ symbol is not present it does not pass validation and the user gets an error to fill in the required form field. I thought that Captcha was something like that. I did get the reCaptcha to appear on my page at:

http://www.addictionandrecoverysolution.com/form.html

 

But it did not matter if you solved it or not, pressing Submit sent the message anyway and you got the “Thank You” page. Now it seems that you need a php receiver script in your site root to interact with this captcha and somehow this will validate the form and send it or make you get it right. I have not learned it yet. I use Dreamweaver for Websites for my clients (I struggle to survive as a small homeowner on disability and SSI does not pay anywhere near enough for homeowner bills plus food, gas, clothes, or anything else so ALL of my customers are extremely satisfied to give good references and always call me back as someone they trust, even at $100 a pop to clean up a PC with viruses in it. I also do networks, wifi, offices, workstations, web sites, android stuff, anything they want. I use Dreamweaver to create and edit the sites, and I have a CentOS Linux Server on Samba shares so I can put files on the machine and actually test the site and pages on a real apache web server, I have a FQDN to make this possible.

 

It is time to upgrade my Linux server, too old, and my friend gave me her Pentium 4 3GHz PC. I replaced the CPU with a 3.6GHz 64 bit CPU for $24 at eBay and found the nVidia GeForce 6600 video card was bad, advanced desktop with Compiz would crash so when I replaced the video card, I noticed that over ½ the capacitors were puffed out, split open on top, and leaking. The card was no good and when I installed my GeForce 9600 PCIe x16, the thing came to life with brand new CentOS 7 and all of the servers I want!

 

While playing with yum, the package downloader, I searched for “Captcha” and found tons of stuff for it, the libraries for it and the server side php packages. That means I can experiment with this directly since the site I showed you runs on a GoDaddy low cost Linux server hosting account. Now I can see what I need on the server, get the form right, and then test it right on the apache server to see if it works!

 

Thank you so much Toni, yes I need your help a LOT, maybe I can help you with things you want or need. But I also need your patience. I have things going on right now so I cannot sit and grind out this Captcha thing until I get it right. The client knows this and I have other work to do on that site. Captcha, when and if it happens, is a bonus. Besides building the new Linux computer, I have financial things to work out, medical things to work out (Herniated disks, very painful, pain management and extreme difficulty legally filling my prescriptions in Florida. I have to mail order them from United Health Care, my medical insurance, just to get it. My mom’s 93rd birthday is coming up on June 10th and I plan to make that nice for her. I have to help her a lot with things. So I cannot dive into Captcha full time as I would like. But I will read over your stuff and get back to you real soon. It was very nice hearing from you, Toni/Koni whichever your name is? You are Hawaiian? Please add me to your contacts and I will add you. Never will bug you but nice to make new friends with shared skills. More on this as mails get exchanged.

 

Aloha my new friend!

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