I can't find a thing to tell me what color stone ochre is. I can
find references to it, but that's it. I looked up ochre colors. That
told me they were any color from almost white, thru various shades of
yellow, brown, and red, to black. I finally e-mailed Real Milk Paint,
but no response yet. So, I figured I'd do like everyone else, and put
the question to an international newsgroup.
OK, does anyone here know what color stone ochre is? And can offer
some sort of proof? I don't trust you buggers very much.
JOAT
I am as bad as the worst, but, thank God, I am as good as the best.
- Walt Whitman
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 22 Jun 2003. Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/JOATorJackOfAll/page4.html
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"Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT" <Jakofal...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Interesting. Got a reply from the Real Milk Paint Company, and it
says:
"In the Dorner reference he refers to it as a " gray " variety." OK,
"stone ochre" = a gray, sounds reasonable. However, then it goes on to
say that I could probably substitute:
"yellow ochre , golden rod or their mustard".
I think all these names of colors were invented by flaming interior
decorators. Why not just describe the colors, instead of giving them
names no one knows, except them? Gray - mix black and white. Brown -
mix red and black. Light brown - put some white in. Tan - light brown
with more white. Like that.
I think I looked at most of them last night.
I get the message, "contains a type of informaiton you can't use".
> I think all these names of colors were invented by flaming interior
>decorators. Why not just describe the colors, instead of giving them
>names no one knows, except them? Gray - mix black and white. Brown -
>mix red and black. Light brown - put some white in. Tan - light brown
>with more white. Like that.
C'mon, man. Interior decorators don't have much they can set to jargon,
because, after all, it's couches and curtains. But if the set the colors up
with hard to decipher names, they're right there with the rest of the
"professionals," jargonizing up a storm.
Charlie Self
"Everybody is ignorant. Only on different subjects."
Will Rogers
>
>C'mon, man. Interior decorators don't have much they can set to jargon,
>because, after all, it's couches and curtains. But if the set the colors up
>with hard to decipher names, they're right there with the rest of the
>"professionals," jargonizing up a storm.
The color naming thing has been out of control for a long time.
I still don't know what Puce is but it sounds too much like Puke for
me to get interested.
White is the absolute worst. There's more kinds of White than the
Eskimos have names for different kinds of snow.
I don't even want to think about words like Mauve, Teal, Cerulean,
etc.
I was just talking to a customer this morning who was questioning me
about stain choices for her poplar wall unit.
She whips out the ubiquitous and inadequate Minwax Stain Chart. (How
many times have I seen that piece of crap shoved in my face?)
She wanted, "A Walnut Look".
(Then why don't you spring for freakin' walnut and be done with it?)
I told her what I've been telling all of them for a long time:
Most wood is brown. Some of it is light brown. Some of it is
dark brown. Some is in between. Some brown wood is yellowish
brown. Some brown wood is reddish brown. You can't go by the
name on the Minwax chart because your wood will not look like
walnut - just because they call it walnut.
As usual, the response was, "What about cherry".
Sigh.
Don't think she wasn't bright. She picked up on the fact that I don't
care much for Minwax stains.
"So, how do you make your own cherry stain?"
"Two parts medium brown, one part blue, one part yellow, one half part
red."
"I don't want it to look blue."
"Sigh."
"Will it look like my other cherry furniture?"
"Yes."
"So, we're talking about natural cherry, right?"
"Your furniture is not natural cherry."
(shock) "But, it was very expensive, it's Ethan Allen."
"Sigh."
"You mean that Ethan Allen doesn't make their cherry furniture out of
natural cherry?"
"Well, the cherry is pretty natural when it starts out but isn't what
anyone would call natural after it's gone through the finishing
process."
"So, is it particle board?"
"Sigh."
It went on but you guys have suffered enough.
Regards, Tom
Thomas J. Watson - Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
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"Tom Watson" <tjwa...@CLUETOKEN.snip.net> wrote in message
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Hey, why'dya stop? This like one of those Saturday serials we used
to see as kids? Get to a good part, and then continued next episode? I
was ready to fix some popcorn, and you wimped out. I wanna hear more.
Who's with me? LMAO
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"Jack-of-all-trades - JOAT" <Jakofal...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Wed, Jun 25, 2003, 5:45pm tjwa...@CLUETOKEN.snip.net (Tom Watson)
Who's with me? LMAO
>ey, why'dya stop? This like one of those Saturday serials we used
>to see as kids? Get to a good part, and then continued next episode? I
>was ready to fix some popcorn, and you wimped out. I wanna hear more.
>Who's with me? LMAO
It would be good, but remember, Tom's an old guy (not as old as JOAT and I, but
he's still aging and we're getting childish) with a new outdoor job, so maybe
we can give him until tomorrow evening.
May I? The complete Pionite laminate line and yes, there is
a color (colour David) called 24 Hours of Le Mans.
24 Hours of Le Mans PFA09 N N
Acadia Beech WG101 Y Y
Adriatic Tapestry AV921 N N
Agean Fresco AV771 Y - C N
Alabaster Marmor MW530 N N
Alive in Memphis PFA45 N N
Almond ST655 Y Y
Almond Calf LT230 N N
Almond Contempo WO541 Y - PH N
Almond Jaguar AT881 N N
Almond Woodsong AT541 N N
Amber Curly Maple WM221 Y - P N
Amber Raffia AO351 N N
Amberwood WO361 Y - PH N
Amethyst Impression AP321 N N
Angel White SW826 Y Y
Anigre WX041 Y Y
Anthra Green SV710 Y - P N
Antique Cirrus AT971 Y - P N
Ash Fiesta MG041 Y - P N
Ash Gray SG254 Y Y
Atlantis Pavia MB040 N N
Aubergine Frost AP301 N N
Aztec Blue SB008 Y - P N
Baltic Fresco AB141 Y - C N
Bankers Gray SG214 Y - P Y
Beige ST617 Y - C Y - C
Beige Crepe AT251 Y - P N
Beige Linen AT301 Y - P N
Beige Pavia MT270 N N
Berry Red SR531 Y Y
Bianco Marble MW540 N N
Bisque ST653 Y - P N
Bittersweet SO312 Y - P N
Black SE101 Y Y
Black Granite ME001 Y - P N
Blue Jaguar AB031 N N
Blue Pavia MB050 N N
Blue Sandstone AB191 N N
Blue Spruce SV712 Y - C - PH Y - C - PH
Blush Spektrum AR281 Y - PH N
Blush Talc AR331 N N
Boxwood SV704 Y Y
Breccia Granite MO001 N N
Burgundy SR521 Y Y
Burgundy Crepe AP311 Y N
Butcher Block WB201 N N
Camel Raffia AT261 N N
Cameo ST643 Y Y
Canyon SO308 Y - P N
Caramel ST622 Y - P Y
Caramel Crepe AT111 Y N
Cardamom Fiber AG371 Y - PH N
Carnation White SW806 Y Y
Carrara Marble MG031 N N
Celedon Impression AV731 N N
Celery Fiber AV751 Y - P N
Cerise SR516 Y N
Chamomile Fiber AT291 Y - P N
Charcoal Chromatix AE011 N N
Charcoal Ethos AE031 N N
Chili Fiber AO101 Y - C - P Y - C - P
Chocolate ST637 Y N
Christmas in Nyc PFA36 N N
Cinder Gray Concrete AG471 N N
Cinnamon Fiber AT241 Y - P N
Cinnamon Noce WW601 Y - P N
Clear Ash WA001 Y N
Cloud Spektrum AB041 Y N
Copper SO320 Y N
Copper Mesh AT281 N N
Coriander Fiber AT981 Y N
Creme Peach SO307 Y - P N
Curry Fiber AY102 Y N
Dark Mahogany WY091 Y - P N
Deep Teal SB016 Y N
Dolphin Gray SG246 Y Y
Dresden Blue SB011 Y - P N
Driving at Daytona PFA15 N N
Dusty Aqua SV713 Y Y - PH
Dusty Rose SR512 Y - P N
Eggshell Mosaic AW881 N N
Eggshell White SW803 Y Y
Emerald Santos AV711 N N
Etched Gold AT892 N N
Etched Platinum AG232 N N
Etched Silver AG222 N N
Etched Verdigris AV645 N N
Evergreen Tapestry AV841 Y - PH N
Feather Gray SG251 Y - PH N
Filleto Marble MT400 N N
Fine Oak WO951 Y - C N
Flaxseed Chromatix AT631 Y - P N
Folkstone Gray SG241 Y Y
Formal Mahogany WY031 Y Y
Forsythia SY913 Y N
French Blue SB005 Y Y
Gin Joint in Casablanca PFA27 N N
Graphite Spektrum AE021 Y Y
Graphite Talc AG361 Y N
Gray Chromatix AG111 Y N
Gray Contempo WO551 Y N
Gray Cretonne AG391 N N
Gray Ethos AG261 N N
Gray Fiesta AG321 N N
Gray Frost AG271 Y - PH N
Gray Linen AG431 N N
Gray Santos AG291 N N
Gray Spektrum AG251 Y Y
Green Spektrum AV664 Y Y
Greige SG210 Y Y
Greige Mosaic AG401 N N
Greystone MG011 N N
Gridlock in LA PFA51 N N
Gunstock Savoy Walnut WW971 Y Y
Hanging Gardens of Babylon PFA57 N N
Hardrock Maple WM791 Y Y
Hearth Oak WO862 Y N
Honey Maple WM951 Y N
Horizon Blue Frost AB091 N N
Horizon Ethos AB071 N N
Ice Green SV716 N N
Ice Skating in Oslo PFA18 N N
Ice White SW813 Y - C - P Y - C
Indigo Blue SB006 Y - P N
Indigo Chromatix AR261 N N
Indigo Organix AB051 N N
Ingot Gray SG211 Y N
International Oak WB211 N N
Iris SP409 Y Y
Ivory Cirrus AW841 Y - PH N
Ivory Kid LG110 Y - P N
Jade Pavia MV430 Y - PH N
Java Mahogany WY301 Y - P N
Jewel Mahogany WY351 Y - P N
Kale Fiber AV861 N N
Kicks on Route 66 PFA06 N N
Knotty Pine WP101 Y N
Liberty Oak WO201 Y - P N
Light Turquiose SV715 N N
Limestone SG208 Y Y - C
Manila Linen AT231 N N
Mardi Gras in New Orleans PFA24 N N
Marina Granite MB080 N N
Mayan Beige ST648 Y - P - PH N
Melange AR301 Y N
Mercury SG204 Y N
Mikasa SR519 Y N
Millwork Cherry WC431 Y - P N
Mineral Talc AG381 N N
Moroccan Fresco AT121 Y N
Moss Gray SG240 Y N
Mustard SY919 Y - P N
Natural Birdseye WM901 Y - P N
Natural Jaguar AT941 N N
Natural Limestone MT300 N N
Navajo Red SR505 Y - C - P N
Navy Blue SB007 Y Y
Navy Crepe AB111 Y N
Navy Frost AB101 Y - P N
Negotiating in Geneva PFA60 N N
Neptune SV711 Y - PH N
Neutral Santos AT951 Y N
Nubian Brown ST604 Y Y
Oatmeal Fiber AT101 Y Y - P
Oiled Cherry WC421 Y Y
Oiled Walnut WW771 Y - P N
Olive Organix AV674 N N
Olive Serenity AV801 N N
Opal Impression AB121 Y - PH N
Opti Gray SG213 Y Y
Opti Gray Crepe AG341 Y - P N
Opti Gray Jaguar AG241 Y - P N
Oriental Red SR532 Y N
Pale Spruce SV717 N N
Palomino ST650 Y N
Parchment AT383 N Y - P
Peach Glo SO311 Y N
Pearl Tapestry AW130 N N
Pearwood WX031 Y Y
Pebble ST683 Y Y
Pebble Mosaic AT271 N N
Pebble Santos AG301 Y N
Peche Contempo WO531 Y - PH Y - PH
Peppermint Santos AV691 N N
Piazza MW560 N N
Picnic in Pompeii PFA21 N N
Pigeon Blue SB015 N N
Pistachio SV718 Y Y
Plum SP402 Y Y - C
Plum Tapestry AP331 N N
Powder Pink SR518 Y Y
Primary Red SR520 Y - P N
Primary Yellow SY914 Y N
Printed in Tokyo PFA30 N N
Pumice SG203 Y Y - C
Putty Gray SG209 Y N
Pyrenees Marble ME011 Y - C - P N
Raspberry SR522 Y Y
Rhythms of Dakar PFA75 N N
Rose SR533 N N
Rose Ash SR509 Y N
Rose Brown ST633 Y - PH Y
Rose Chromatix AR221 N N
Rose Ethos AR291 Y - C - P N
Rose Granite MR130 N N
Rose Jaguar AR271 N N
Royal Blue SB009 Y Y
Royal Burgundy SP401 Y N
Royal Purple SP414 Y N
Ruby Granite MR140 N N
Running in Pamplona PFA66 N N
Sable Tapestry AT501 N N
Sage SV720 Y N
Sage Coral AV781 Y - PH N
Sailing to Catalina PFA12 N N
Salsa Red SR534 Y - PH N
Samba in Rio PFA69 N N
Sand Chromatix AT641 N N
Sand Plexus AT621 N N
Sand Spektrum AT921 Y N
Scandia Teak WT601 Y - C - P N
Scrubbed Oak WO991 Y - PH N
Searching for Atlantis PFA63 N N
Seaside Maple WM861 Y Y
Select Butcher Block WB071 Y - P N
Shaker Cherry WC521 Y - C Y - C
Sherwood Oak WO891 Y - C - P Y
Singing the Chicago Blues PFA39 N N
Sipping Seattle Java PFA48 N N
Slate SG228 Y Y
Slate Crepe AG351 Y - P N
Slate Element AV791 N N
Slate Impression AV741 Y N
Smoke Granite MG021 N N
Spice Walnut WW561 Y - P N
Springtime SV709 Y - P N
Springtime in Paris PFA33 N N
Spruce Ethos AV684 N N
Spruce Frost AV701 N N
Spruce Talc AV200 N N
Squash ST610 Y - C - P Y - C - P
Stonedust SG224 Y Y
Stonedust Crepe AG331 Y - P N
Storm Cirrus AG281 Y N
Streets of San Francisco PFA54 N N
Sugar Maple WM971 Y N
Summit Ash WA011 Y Y
Taj Teak WT741 Y N
Tapioca ST613 Y N
Taupe ST606 Y N
Taupe Serenity AG441 N N
Tawny White SW812 Y Y
Tea Party in Boston PFA42 N N
Teal SB010 Y - PH N
Terra Cotta Organix AT931 Y - P N
Terrazzo MG051 N N
Thyme Fiber AV721 Y N
Vanilla Fiber AW871 Y - P N
Venetian Fresco AB251 N N
Verde Jaguar AV654 N N
Verde Sandstone AV931 N N
Vermont Granite MB060 N N
Victorian Cherry WC331 Y N
Viva Las Vegas PFA03 N N
Waltzing in Vienna PFA72 N N
Warm White SW841 Y - PH N
Wheat Fiber AT991 Y - C N
White SW811 Y Y
White Chromatix AW831 Y N
White Decor Maple WM872 Y - P N
White Elm WE261 Y N
White Ember AW861 N N
White Ethos AW801 N N
White Fiesta MW550 N N
White Jaguar AW775 N N
White Parisian Maple WM871 N N
White Spektrum AW785 Y Y
White Talc AW851 Y N
White Tundra AW812 N N
Wild Orchid SP410 Y - PH N
Winter Americana AT521 N N
Winter White SW836 Y - C Y - C
Wisconsin Oak WO581 Y N
Color Name No. 1MM PVC 3MM PVC
Yorkshire Cherry
"Unisaw A100" <Unisa...@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Tom Watson wrote:
> >It went on but you guys have suffered enough.
>
> May I? The complete Pionite laminate line and yes, there is
> a color (colour David) called 24 Hours of Le Mans.
>
>
> 24 Hours of Le Mans PFA09 N N
> Acadia Beech WG101 Y Y
<snip a ridiculous number of stupid sounding names for colors>
I'm thinking they just mixed left over paint together, got drunk,
and started making up names. I wan't drinking, but I've got a can of
paint out in my shop I came up with by mixing leftover paint, I call it
S**t Brindle Brown. I use it as a primer coat sometimes.
:-) Let's be politically correct and call it Martha Steward Baby Shit
Yellow!
Jim
I love the sound of "Savoy" walnut in plastic ?????