What would the beloved members of this fantastic n.g. like to see on this
"Special?"
--
Jim Mc Namara
Future Collectibles
personally, I think norm is great. he has just the right attitude in that
he DOESN'T stick it in anyone's face that he has the things to do the job
right. norm has paid his dues in that he used to be a regular carpenter
and he knows what real work is like. he is not just some actor who they
got to do all the "show" parts. I would imagine they do have helpers who
do part of the job, but so what? is there anything whong with that?
I hope I'm not slamming you too hard but I really admire Norm for his show
and he is probably responsible for many people getting involved in
woodworking.
PS have you ever tried to sell any of your stuff you built?
sincerely
Jim
Jim McNamara wrote in message <01be6a4c$aa2283c0$3f431ed1@jmcn>...
Norm is the woodworking equivalent of "Leave It To Beaver's" Dad! Perfect in
every way?? Always RIGHT?? Everytime?? Solves every problem, got all the
answers, never gets mad or throws stuff!
And, Norm is in the business of "making money"! Not spending it, as his major
league advertisers want US all to do!
Maybe Norm's not perfect after all.......that "Yankee" accent tends to grate
on the nerves of "us-uns" south of the Mason-Dixon Line!! <grin>
Woodchipz
sincerely
Jim
>
> Well I heard that the producers were going to do sub-titles for those of
you who
> couldn't understand the Yankee accent, but they realized that anyone below the
> Mason-Dixon line couldn't read anyway.
>
Well, thanks a lot! See if you can pass our Arkansas 12th grade literacy test.
CM ducks?
MR not!
SMR, CM wangs?
LIB, MR ducks!
CM snakes?
MR not!
SMR, CMEDBD eyes?
LIB, MR snakes!
Good luck!
Doug Stowe
P.S. Why the heck anyone would spend time watching Norm when you could be
in the shop making sawdust, I'll never know.
--
Doug Stowe Visit my website: http://www.DougStowe.com
Author of "Creating Beautiful Boxes With Inlay Techniques"
I tell her it's because he has more clamps.
~8-)}
John
> I won't be happy until, one day, they show a complete program of Norm
> Abram's Bloopers! I would love to see his 2,589 clamps fall on the floor!
> (I've been jealous as hell that he has the ROOM for all those clamps much
> less have the clamps! Does anyone want to sponsor me?) And another thing
> . . . when did he get the need for those bandaids that show up between
> planing and sanding? And who helps him? I know damn well he didn't build
> that gazebo, greenhouse, or even a large entertainment center without the
> cameraman balancing SOMETHING? And what about his jigs? Whereinthehell
> does he store all his jigs? I'm going nuts? HELP ME!
>
> What would the beloved members of this fantastic n.g. like to see on this
> "Special?"
>
> --
> Jim Mc Namara
> Future Collectibles
Couple of thing's that has peeved me is that One, Norm can not seem to rip
ANY type of wood on that massive UniSaw without burning the wood. For a
Master Carpenter, you would think that he would know how to align it, or at
least sharpen his blade. Maybe he needs all that power to just friction cut
his wood. No teeth or gullets left on the blade after running all that
plywood through it. The other is his "specialized" machines, i.e.: gadgets.
Like the 3" resaw bandsaw, that Thickness Sander everyone has been talking
about on here, a radial drill press??? Laser guided chopsaw? Digital fence
on the table saw? Almost no one that watches his show would be able to find
half of these thing, let alone be able to afford them or even find the room
for them. What about the MILES and MILES of "scrap" lumber in his wood bins?
And why in the hell does ANYone need a 35 foot ceiling in a woodshop? What's
he going use all that height for? Only thing I can think of is to make room
for his big swelled head. I have read a few of his "companion" books. And it
states in the forward of one of them that he does all the work himself, from
his design to building the completed project (before shooting starts) and then
builds another completed one in a week of shooting. There is also a still
photographer on the set to take pictures for his future as yet unpublished
companion books. The only thing he needs helpers for, that the book states is
for minor chores in the shop, like cleaning up, and maybe a jig runner, and a
clamp organizer. All of which HAVE to be full time positions with a medical
plan and a 401k. By the way, anyone care to venture a guess on just how
many hundreds of pounds of brads/drywall screws he goes through? We see the
band aids, so we know that even a master carpenter makes mistakes, and we see
the quick camera angle change on more than a few joint fastenings, and in slow
mo after recording it, you can see the joint does not line up very well, even
when Norm says, "that looks pretty good." I commend his ability to get paid
for what he loves doing. Any of us would love to be in his shoes. All of us
that have ever looked at few bd ft of lumber and had have a gumption to attach
a few of them together and build something out it would LOVE to be in his
shoes, or even have half? Third? Quarter? Maybe a tenth of the shop that he
does. We know he's human, we have seen the clues, camera's don't lie after
all, even editors can't catch all the mistakes that inevitably get shown to
us, the viewing public (wonder if he edits the show himself... have to check)
So why won't they show them while the credits are running? Someone asked this
a while back, and we still have no good answer. Norm has even admitted to a
few of his mistakes in his book on handtool use. "Measure twice, cut once" He
told about the time he left a framing square at the top of a ladder and forgot
that it was there. (first mistake) He remebered it just when he started to
climb the ladder after coming back to work, then looked up while he did so
(second mistake) Of course, that was just in time to see it smack him right
between the eyes. I would love to see that misaligned Unisaw kickback a 3/4"
piece of Teak he decided to resaw (before he got his resawing bandsaw) I
would love to see a 10 penny nail shot into a thumb (or other extremity) from
his nail gun while he was put 4 and 5 nails into each joint on the framing of
his "Kid's Playhouse" project. I would KILL to see the tape of Norm falling
overboard after setting sail for the first time after he built his Clancy
boat. What about all that 6/4 pine he got and had to clean up? Do you
actually think he got all those nails and iron out of it before he sliced it?
Or ran it through his thickness planer? I doubt it. Would have LOVED to see
the reaction on his face when that nail hit those planer knives. We have been
talking about Norm's Bloopers for some time on and off on this group. But
Norm is not the only one. Just recently, Dean Johnson and Robin Hartl started
to put their show bloopers on while running the credits. I was amazed! Robin
hitting her thumb with a finish hammer, Dean falling off a ladder (misstep)
It was great! Makes it all worth while. No one is perfect, everyone does
something stupid, and I have thrown my share of lumber and tools across the
shop. (does no good to do so, but it makes me feel better at the time.) If
he were to just put all his blooper's on one tape (five part series?) and
sell them on his website, I would be the first to buy it. Tape #1: When
Lumber Attacks! Next on Fox! I think it would be a big seller and do nothing
more than make Norm, and the producers, richer. IMHO, It would not instill
any less confidence in him, we KNOW he is doing it already, but it might prove
VERY entertaining, and refreshing. <Quick bow, lights dim and exit: Stage
right.>
--
Robert J. Hoppe
Copperas Cove, TX
reply address: <mailto:half...@hotmail.com>
"Some may say that I'm apathetic... But I don't care..."
Cable box and and TV (both Japanese) are in the shop, remote hangs on the tool peg
board. I can do shaving and watch Norm....
--
Robert J. Hoppe
Copperas Cove, TX
reply address: <mailto:half...@hotmail.com>
"I am not a complete idiot... Some parts are missing..."
> By the way, I got a small black and white in my workshop.
I can top that for "cheap". My shop TV is an old tube type portable (now
nearly 30 years old).
--
Chuck Johnson
Salt Lake City, UT
It's only a TV show of which Norm is just an employee, albiet the
"star". It's not his workshop, or his tools, although he probably has
some degree influence, the sponsors certainly have more.
I really wouldn't get too worked up about this. Norm likely makes a
decent living, but I'm sure that Tim the Toolman gets 50 times the
salary as Norm. And I don't see why you would have a problem with the
helpers having a medical plan or a 401K.
What I'm curious about is why you would even bother to watch. From
your other posts, I can see you are far from being a beginning
woodworker. I personally find the show to be fairly repititious, and
there really isn't much to be learned from it. How many times can you
watch Norm rip wood on a table saw, or brad nail molding on furniture?
The same basic power tool techniques are continually repeated, with
rare deviations . I'm sure that is what Delta wants Norm to do.
Roy is considerably more interesting, informative and entertaining,
IMHO.
Regards,
Marty
> THAT WAS PAINFULLY PAINFUL!!
>
> Jim Mc Namara
> Future Collectibles
What was?
--
Robert J. Hoppe
Copperas Cove, TX
reply address: <mailto:half...@hotmail.com>
"Some may say that I am apathetic... But I don't care..."
What part of Arkansas wuz U frum? I git up that way two 'ta 3 times a year
- usually from Siloam Springs to Eureka Springs.
--
Jim Mc Namara
Future Collectibles
Woodchipz <wood...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19990309170318...@ng105.aol.com>...
Worked up?! <sweat, puff,pant!> WHO'S GETTING WORKED UP??!!?? After reading
this over again and seeing my name at the bottom, I have come to the conclusion
that my other personality wrote this. The EVIL Robert is now dead, I killed
him.... The only reason I post on here is to see what I wrote on the screen, like
most people others might know that just talk to hear themselves rattle. On the
serious side of this, I am not an expert woodworker by any stretch, NONE of us who
claim to be actually are. Each of us has something to share, and we are ALL
learning a new way to do something, or an old way to do something new everyday.
This was posted in jest, and since no one close to me shares the love I have of
working with wood, I turn to y'all to vent things I see or notice about our beloved
and sublime "master." Norm may be a master carpenter/craftsman, but he is still
human and makes mistakes, just like the rest of us. One thing you MUST agree with
about my post is the overkill on the gadgets. Okay, a novice woodworker catches
one of his shows, and HAS to have one of those laser guided chop saws. How many
questions about where to get one show up on this group every month? Dunno, but I
have seen quite a few. They know of no other way to make a perfect cut. Thickness
Sander? Same thing. You can do the same thing with an orbital sander for $40 or a
smoothing plane by hand. Just takes longer. Most don't know that. There are
essentials "gotta haves" in a shop, and there are "wannits" pipedreams that very
few of us will ever obtain. The whole process is about wood, and what we can do
with it. Some of us sell our wares, some are professionals, and some of us just
love to escape (for our own reasons) to the shop and do something that we see as
useful, relaxing, and fun. Call us hobbyists. And this is the place where we
exchange ideas, vent our frustrations, share our knowledge, talents, mishaps and
views on the world in general with someone(s) that share the same basic interests
and can understand where we are coming from and how we got here. You asked why I
watch Norm? I enjoy it. He inspires me to get to work and that I have a long way
to go in my methodology, planning, attention to detail and the like. Every mistake
I see him make clicks in my mind to be more careful the next time I cut a joint,
position a brad nailer, rip a board or whatever. He is annoying, not very
entertaining, even (like you said) monotonous at times. I know these things, but
still I tune in. The reason, as I've stated before is I enjoy it, and to see a few
planks that used to be called a tree evolving at the hands of one man into a piece
that will last for years to come. It is a fascinating and beautiful process. Ever
go to a Jr. High or High School Shop and see some of the projects they are working
on? Some are downright terrible and the ugliest and worst made things I have ever
seen. But if you walk up to the kid that made it, and ask him, "Did YOU make
this?" (while staring at the conglomeration appreciatively) and he proudly squares
his shoulders and says, "Yes. I made that." then goes into the details of HOW he
made it, eyes all aglow, only then can you see why one undertakes anything. A
chance to do something, and the longer you/that kid/I do it, the more you/we
improve as confidence builds. Now you have to appreciate a shop teacher that does
this all day, probably very knowledgable in his craft, and trying to pass that on
to this kid that has no talent whatsoever, but the kid/teacher ENJOYS doing it and
is proud of what he accomplishes. Agreed, Norm is driven by his sponsors and
their machinery, new one's come out everyday, and if the company does not sell them
then they are out of a lot R&D, and production money. This programs is on PBS
and HGTV in some locations. A lot of people that watch this show don't even have
cable, and can't afford it. How can they afford a multi-thousand dollar sander? I
have no real answer for that, other than it provides the inspiration, shows what is
available, and what can be accomplished. Roy Underhill is a whole other book I
will tackle at a later date. This was meant as a quick response and turned into
this. My apologies, after all, I just wanted to see what I write, remember?
<grin!> I am sorry if you thought I was worked up, I did not think I was, just
posting a few observations. Could have been worse, though.... I could have added
screen shots and illustrations... :) Take care and keep the splinters out and
fingers on.
--
Robert J. Hoppe
Copperas Cove, TX
reply address: <mailto:half...@hotmail.com>
"Some may say that I am ignorant... But I don't know why..."
Jim McNamara wrote in message <01be6a7f$0911b9a0$3c6c1ed1@jmcn>...
>If we all tried hard enough this evening, we could ALL COMMENT on this
>subject and stretch the thread sooooooooo thin, we could be in the Guiness
>Book!
George
Thousand Oaks, CA
Jim McNamara wrote in message <01be6a81$06503dc0$3c6c1ed1@jmcn>...
>When replying to this thread - please keep your comments to a minimum of
>6000 words or less!
Jim McNamara <act...@flash.net> wrote in message
news:01be6a7f$0911b9a0$3c6c1ed1@jmcn...
>If we all tried hard enough this evening, we could ALL COMMENT on this
>subject and stretch the thread sooooooooo thin, we could be in the Guiness
>Book!
>GEEZ!! it's TV! Not reality as we all know it! Too simple, too quick, too
>perfect! The Producers and advertisers DEMAND that!!
Usually I agree that the TV-personality bashing goes a bit far, but in
this case, I don't.
When people complain about the poor quality of a product . . . the
plans he's selling . . . its no different than complaining about buggy
software from Microsoft or a defect in your car. Expressing feelings
of being cheated and not receiving value for your money is not
bashing.
And I'm glad I heard it here before I sent in my money.
...and didja ever notice that there's never any sawdust... ANYWHERE? ... and
you can't even hear the dust collection system (which must have a capacity
of about 3 gazillion CFM !)
Bill
In article <01be6a4c$aa2283c0$3f431ed1@jmcn>, "Jim McNamara" <act...@flash.net>
writes:
>(I've been jealous as hell that he has the ROOM for all those clamps much
>less have the clamps! Does anyone want to sponsor me?)
rbowles96ATaolDOTcom for real E-mail
Measured it 3 times, cut it off twice, and it was still too short
Bob
> When replying to this thread - please keep your comments to a minimum of
> 6000 words or less!
> --
> Jim Mc Namara
> Future Collectibles
What? This was my final college essay!! No grade as of yet.... Norm is my
hero, so I wrote about what I know.... Absolutely nothing.--
Robert J. Hoppe
Copperas Cove, TX
reply address: <mailto:half...@hotmail.com>
"Some may say that I am apathetic... But I don't care..."
I'd love to see that blooper reel. I'd enjoy hearing such choice tidbits
as, "Damn! That was the INSIDE dimension on that miter! Somebody get me
another piece of 12/4 mahogany!" and "We have $50,000 worth of tools in
here. What do you MEAN we don't have a one inch Forstner bit!"
Just once, as he's crosscutting a five-foot board on the tablesaw with no
splitter, no guard, and no crosscut sled, I'd like to see that wood kick
back by him at 100 MPH and smash into his prototype.
Just once, I'd like to see him "Just shoot a couple of brads to hold it
while the glue dries" and see that little 1/4" protrusion he's shooting
the brads into split and come off.
I don't know about everyone else, but I'd pay some good money to get my
hands on that videotape.
-=- Gary -=-
rec.woodworking FAQ: http://www.robson.org/woodfaq/
Closed Captioning FAQ: http://www.robson.org/capfaq/
My Web Site: http://www.robson.org/gary/
Would you please grade this test?
CM ducks? See them ducks?
MR not! Them are not!
SMR, CM wangs? Yes them are, see them wings?
LIB, MR ducks! Well, I be, them are ducks!
CM snakes? See them snakes?
MR not! Them are not!
SMR, CMEDBD eyes? Yes them are, see them itty bitty eyes?
LIB, MR snakes! Well, I be, them are snakes!
We live too close to Arkansas. We sometimes have contact with them
peeple.
Rick Ireland
Rick, In my opinion, there's no such thing as TOO close to Arkansas. This
is a phenomenally beautiful state with wonderful people.
I live in the northwest corner where we have beautiful hardwood and pine
forests. The people here are hardworking but take time to care for one
another. We have an abundance of wildlife and clean water that flows in
crystal clear streams. Winter is just long enough to give a guy a very
deep appreciation of spring. Summer is hot enough to spend afternoons
lounging butt naked beside cold spring fed waters where small mouth bass
wait in the riffles behind limestone boulders .
I don't know where the heck you are, but I think you're missing
something. You ought a pack up the car and come see for yourself. Don't
forget your fishn' pole.
Congrats on passing the test!
Best wishes,
Doug
Now this is the response I was looking for when I started this 6-mile
thread a couple of days ago! Let 'er rip and start it over again!!
Don't tell me you live close to Siloam Springs. That's the part of
Arkansas that my wife and I are wanting to relocate to. Eureka Spgs is
great, but not enough revenue.
Next time you get up to Eureka Springs, if you get a chance stop at "Grandma's
Kitchen" for some pinto beans and cornbread. Tell Mr or Mrs Summers there that
you heard about it from "Brugly Other" on the "puter" .
PS: I really enjoy reading your posts.
John
More newz of the weird.
I've had this business card for around fifteen years. I'd picked it
up at an art show at a woodworker's booth. The guy did some neat glue
laminations with contrasting woods. I mainly got it because I liked
the fact that he had glued up the wood and resawed it to 1/8" thick
and the width and length of a business card. The name of the
woodworker was printed on card stock and glued to the wood. It has
sat on my desk as a decoration for around four years. About six
months after Doug started posting here I flipped it over. Yup, it was
his.
Keith Bohn
Jim McNamara wrote in message <01be6b28$bb46dd40$d8441ed1@jmcn>...
>Okay - so now that I went to your fantastic web site, you DO live in Eureka
>Springs! And now that I saw your picture, we spoke in person back in
>November! Uncanny! I've also got family in Eureka Spgs. As a matter of
>fact, Mike Nichols is a good friend of mine. I strongly recommend that all
>the ng members take a look at Doug's website. IMPRESSIVE!
>...and didja ever notice that there's never any sawdust... ANYWHERE? ... and
>you can't even hear the dust collection system (which must have a capacity
>of about 3 gazillion CFM !)
Norm does indeed have a first class dust collection system. It was
designed and installed by Air Handling Systems
(http://www.airhand.com/index.html). I ordered their catalog, and on
page 3 they summarize the installation with some of the problems they
had to overcome, such as collector background noise, limited floor
space, location of shop tools, etc.. As a bonus, the new system
eliminated the dusting of the camera lens.
The collector, a 5 HP Delta 50-903 cyclone, is located in a storage
room adjacent to the workshop.
Dan Ellenburg
(Remove the 'z' to email)
"Thomas Jefferson was the chief thinker and writer
among a group of men who risked their lives, fortunes
and their honor in fighting against a tradition. This
tradition was that people need to be protected against
themselves by the rich, the wellborn, the educated, or
the powerful" -- Compton's Encyclopedia, 1961
Dan
Jim McNamara wrote:
> I won't be happy until, one day, they show a complete program of Norm
> Abram's Bloopers! I would love to see his 2,589 clamps fall on the floor!
> (I've been jealous as hell that he has the ROOM for all those clamps much
> less have the clamps! Does anyone want to sponsor me?) And another thing
> . . . when did he get the need for those bandaids that show up between
> planing and sanding? And who helps him? I know damn well he didn't build
> that gazebo, greenhouse, or even a large entertainment center without the
> cameraman balancing SOMETHING? And what about his jigs? Whereinthehell
> does he store all his jigs? I'm going nuts? HELP ME!
>
> What would the beloved members of this fantastic n.g. like to see on this
> "Special?"
>
I agree with you that Arkansas is a beautiful in many parts of the
state, particularly the Ozark Mountain areas near Fayetteville, and the
areas near Hot Springs. BTW, there are some really fine woodworkers in
the Ozark areas. Unfortunately, our most frequent experience with
Arkansas is passing through on I-40 driving from Memphis, where we live,
to Colorado Springs. We make this trip 2 or 3 times a year. It is
pretty flat and boring from Memphis to Little Rock. After you leave
Conway things begin to look up.
My only real problem with Arkansas is two of its former residents. I
think you know of whom I speak.
Rick Ireland
Happy to be of service. I wonder if Norm's assistants ever play practical
jokes on him. They'd make great fodder for a blooper reel, too. You know
- the old "rubber blade in the RAS" joke, or misaligning the laser guide
on the CMS. Ever watch how close Norm's fingers come to the blade on the
TS when he's running stuff through with no guard or splitter? What if
someone snuck a little capsule of fake blood on the bottom of the jig, so
it went "spurt" just as his fingers went over the blade? No - that would
probably scare him so badly he really WOULD get hurt. Maybe if it was
combined with the rubber blade...
Someone mentioned in this thread that he made 20K last year doing
woodworking part-time. I would really like to know how to make that much
money. Seriously, this person must not be watching Norm like the rest of
us because he is making money. I haven't sold a thing and I watch Norm.
Sincerely,
Jim Moyseenko
moyse...@osu.edu
OTOH, there's no way that I could finish enough product in the amount of
time I spend watching Norm to make $20K. Maybe if I turned off the
computer and got into the shop ocassionally...
All the best,
Rob Weaver
Post us a photo of some of your best "country primitive" handywork in
the alt.pictures.binaries.furniture... group. I'd like to see some of
these reproductions. If I could make that much part time I'd do it
too. Don't worry I'm no where near Houston so you're safe :) .
John
On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 14:55:41 GMT, "Jim McNamara" <act...@flash.net>
wrote:
Note: To respond by email please remove "REMOVE.this" in my address.
John Flanagan
jflanganR...@usit.net
Kevin
J. E. Brown wrote in message <7c4jho$r...@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net>...
>If you reeeallllllly want to stretch out this thread, just toss in the
words
>"Bob Vila."
>
>
>Jim McNamara <act...@flash.net> wrote in message
>news:01be6a7f$0911b9a0$3c6c1ed1@jmcn...
>>If we all tried hard enough this evening, we could ALL COMMENT on this
>>subject and stretch the thread sooooooooo thin, we could be in the Guiness
>>Book!
See them snakes?
Them are not?
Yes them are, see them little beady eyes?
Well I'll be, Them are snakes!
Well, do I get my Arkansas diploma?
Glen,
Transplanted Tennessean to California
Doug Stowe wrote:
> In article <36E571E6...@hitchcock.org>, "Andrew G. Bacchi"
> <andrew....@hitchcock.org> wrote:
>
> > Well I heard that the producers were going to do sub-titles for those of
> you who
> > couldn't understand the Yankee accent, but they realized that anyone below the
> > Mason-Dixon line couldn't read anyway.
> >
>
> Well, thanks a lot! See if you can pass our Arkansas 12th grade literacy test.
>
> CM ducks?
> MR not!
> SMR, CM wangs?
> LIB, MR ducks!
>
> CM snakes?
> MR not!
> SMR, CMEDBD eyes?
> LIB, MR snakes!
>
> Good luck!
>
> Doug Stowe
>
> P.S. Why the heck anyone would spend time watching Norm when you could be
> in the shop making sawdust, I'll never know.
R.J. Hoppe wrote:
> Doug Stowe wrote:
>
> > In article <36E571E6...@hitchcock.org>, "Andrew G. Bacchi"
> > <andrew....@hitchcock.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Well I heard that the producers were going to do sub-titles for those of
> > you who
> > > couldn't understand the Yankee accent, but they realized that anyone below the
> > > Mason-Dixon line couldn't read anyway.
> > >
> >
> > Well, thanks a lot! See if you can pass our Arkansas 12th grade literacy test.
> >
> > CM ducks?
> > MR not!
> > SMR, CM wangs?
> > LIB, MR ducks!
> >
> > CM snakes?
> > MR not!
> > SMR, CMEDBD eyes?
> > LIB, MR snakes!
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Doug Stowe
> >
> > P.S. Why the heck anyone would spend time watching Norm when you could be
> > in the shop making sawdust, I'll never know.
> >
> > --
> > Doug Stowe Visit my website: http://www.DougStowe.com
> > Author of "Creating Beautiful Boxes With Inlay Techniques"
> >
>
> Cable box and and TV (both Japanese) are in the shop, remote hangs on the tool peg
> board. I can do shaving and watch Norm....
> --
> Robert J. Hoppe
> Copperas Cove, TX
> reply address: <mailto:half...@hotmail.com>
>
> "I am not a complete idiot... Some parts are missing..."
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He never claimed to build things the old fashioned way. He does say that he
uses new technology when it is suitable.
Of course I could never own most of his equipment, but at least he shows that
it does exist and how it saves time and makes for accuracy. If I built stuff
for a tv show for a living, I might have those time saving devices also.
I try to watch his show whenever I can because it does inspire me to go down
and make some sawdust and being on PBS, it is rather free of commercialism.
And for Roy... Now he does things the hard way. It's entertaining as well,
but I'm more likely to use a Norm technique than an antique Roy hand tool.
So - they're both enjoyable, just different.
We bash Norm 'cause he's too technologically oriented, and uses power tools,
even when the procedure screams for a hand tool. However, if Norm were as
"power-mad" as we make him out to be, he wouldn't use hand-guided, portable
tools, at all, and everything would be produced by CNC machines.
Roy, on the other hand, gets thrashed for never finishing a project, and for
all the self-inflicted wounds, from having to rush to demonstrate a
procedure, 'cause hand tools are so slow! If he were a REAL neanderthal,
he'd only use the jawbone of an ass, and a couple of flint axes!
What you're lamenting is the fringe element in the newsgroup. The rest of
us fall somewhere in between.
Kevin
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