Advice on anti-kickback rollers
ha...@skcla.monsanto.com
Ripstrate, Liechtung Workshops, and Shop Helper. is one better? Mailorder
source?
thanks in advance
Rich Haack
niraj n shah
Get the Liechtung Workshop's version. I've found them to be superb! Of course,
I have not used the other types.
But I can readily see the advantage of having two seperate ones ... you can
space them apart to your liking, and you can put them exactly where its needed.
By the way, Fine WoodWorking reviewed all three, and they recommend the L.W.
version. They say the wheels grip the wood better, thus, it will prevent
kickback much better.
I used them to rip a long board about halfway, stop, walk-around to the other
side of the saw, and then pull the board thru the cut. All the while, the
L.W. anti-kickback helpers have a firm grip onto the wood.
-- Niraj
P.S. Liechturn Workshop's phone number is: 1-800-321-6840
Pete Bellas
ha...@skcla.monsanto.com writes:
> I could use some advice on anti-kickback rollers. ive heard of three:
> Ripstrate, Liechtung Workshops, and Shop Helper. is one better? Mailorder
> source?
My vote goes for Liechtung Workshops, alot of the stuff they have is less
that quality but the rollers work great.
-Pete-
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Bennett Leeds
> In article <1993Dec7...@skcla.monsanto.com>,
> ha...@skcla.monsanto.com writes:
> > I could use some advice on anti-kickback rollers. ive heard of three:
> > Ripstrate, Liechtung Workshops, and Shop Helper. is one better? Mailorder
> > source?
>
> My vote goes for Liechtung Workshops, alot of the stuff they have is less
> that quality but the rollers work great.
The Leichtung rollers do work fine, but they sure are bulky. I find it
difficult to use them and my tablesaw guard, for instance. Some of the
other devices appear to have a lower profile that wouldn't interfere as
much.
They are very adjustable, which is nice but can also be a real pain as there's
so many things to fiddle with when setting them up.
- Bennett Leeds
ben...@mv.us.adobe.com
RON TYE
Ripstrate, Liechtung Workshops, and Shop Helper. is one better? Mailorder
source?
thanks in advance
Rich Haack
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Hi Rich,
I've got a set of Liechtung's that have worked very well for me.
I've only used them on my TS; but, they've done a good job.
I espesialy like :
Independed distance from fence adjustment. Also indepedant
fore/aft distance from blade.
Anti kickback divice that lets wood move away from blade
(short distance) before engageing.
Can be adjusted to skew wood into fence.
Very good a holding wood against dado blade. I feel safer with
them over the blade when I can't use my real blade guard.
I'd buy the Liechtung's again if I needed a 2nd pair. However Trendlines
is haveing a very nice sale on there system right now.
Ron Tye (all opinions my own)
Jay Panetta
on the radial arm saw (my only shop saw). They keep the stock nicely
under control, and I have been able to achieve remarkably good
accuracy. The rollers live on a special fence that's inserted just for
the purpose.
Jay Panetta
Music Department
Wellesley College
John Cooper
Well, I couldn't let this thread go by without adding my two cents. I have
two pair of the Shophelper hold-downs. At the time I bought them I had to
choose between Ripstrate and Shophelper. The Ripstrate was priced at
~$70 for a long time and the Shophelper was sold by Griz for $40 (now I
think $30?). At that time I found the Ripstrate to be less versatile and
cumbersome than the Shophelper.
I mounted the hold-downs at a slight angle toward the fence to keep the
stock snug as it is fed (contrary to the installation instructions
included). This works quite well. I would NEVER do any significant amount
of ripping without these.
When I built my house I ripped/dadoed about 2000 linear feet of cedar trim
(on a RAS :-O) with these and they easily paid for themselves in terms of
increased productivity to say nothing of safety. One of the things I like
about the Shophelpers is that the conical wheel makes getting into tight
places possible. If you need to rip narrow stock you can get a wheel on
the out-fed stock between the blade and fence for as small as a 1/4" cut,
WITHOUT exerting lateral pressure that tends to close the kerf. This is
something that I personally find convienent -- YMMV. To be fair the
Leichtung hold-down has some pretty attractive/unique features as well.
Maybe if someone grafted the two together...[1]
Resisting any and all temptations to begin a 'my hold-down is better that
yours' holy war, I think the point is to use a ripping hold-down for any
significant amount of work. They are just too useful, practical and
inexpensive to justify NOT using. About the only thing that out-does
my hold-downs is my power feeder, but the hold-downs are 1/10 the price
of a basic power feeder. Power feeders are bulky to move from machine
to machine, whereas at $30 a pop I can justify a dedicated hold-down for
each machine.
-john
[1] There was a point in time when I considered to make a poor-man's
powerfeeder from a Leichtung's hold-down, a $30 VSR drill, and some
assorted and sundry gears/sprockets/chains available cheap from
lawnmower repair suppliers. However in an unusual moment of sanity
I buckled in and bought the Griz PF during thier summer sale. I still
think this would have been a neat project.
Bryan Faubion
>>Ripstrate, Liechtung Workshops, and Shop Helper. is one better? Mailorder
>>source?
I totally agree with the previous two posters. I purchased the Liechtung
anti-kickback rollers and made a pair of roller stands. I can't
overstate the impact this has had in the comfort, safety, and quality
of the results.
-Bryan Faubion
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