Table Saw: Ryobi BT3000 vs Delta Contractors II?
Troy D. Buss
I am currently looking for a table saw. I think I have narrowed my
selection to either the Ryobi BT3000 or the Delta Contractors II saw.
I will be using the saw for building garage cabinets, an entertainment
center, bedroom furniture, and quite a few other projects.
(I will not be framing a house with it.)
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** Ryobi BT3000: $500
Nice sliding miter table design which appears to make cross-cutting really
easy. Nice options available: extension table; long miter/rip fence kit;
router mounting kit; quickfold outfeed table, etc.
** Delta Contractors II: $529
I like some of the improvements on the contractors II saw; larger
power on/off switch, an enclosed blade housing making dust collection
hookup easier. It does not appear that the saw can be ordered with the
unifence. I believe it can be upgraded to it and the cost would be an
additional $237 and I toss (sell) the original fence. (total cost $766).
Has anyone upgraded the contractors II to the unifence? Is it worth it or is
the standard fence on this saw pretty good?
** Delta Contractors: $615 $789 w/ 30" Unifence (at time of order)
I have also looked at the Delta contractors saw, but found I would probably
upgrade the standard fence to the 30" unifence (model 34-445) at time of
order. I don't like the standard fence as much as the standard fence on the
contractors II saw. And I don't like the tiny toggle switch or the lack
of concentrated saw dust expulsion. Does the extra weight of this
saw (41 lbs) matter much?
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I have also read the Shop Notes table saw review. The JET was the overall
favorite but I have only found 1 supplier in San Diego that carries the
Jet saw. Service, parts, and options availability are a concern.
Unfortunately the review did not cover the Delta Contractors II or the
Ryobi BT3000 saws.
I am looking for feedback from owners of any of these saws and the pros/cons
of each.
Thanks!
Troy Buss
San Marcos, CA 619-727-9897
tr...@logitek.com
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Red Winderweedle
>
> Table Saw: Ryobi BT3000 vs Delta Contractors II?
>
> I am currently looking for a table saw. I think I have narrowed my
> selection to either the Ryobi BT3000 or the Delta Contractors II saw.
>
> I will be using the saw for building garage cabinets, an entertainment
> center, bedroom furniture, and quite a few other projects.
> (I will not be framing a house with it.)
>
> ---
>
> ** Ryobi BT3000: $500
> ** Delta Contractors II: $529
I recently purchased the Delta, and shopped it against the Ryobi,
much as it appears that you are doing now. While the Ryobi has a lot
of neat bells and whistles, I chose the Delta for one primary
reason:
The Delta is belt driven, the Ryobi is direct drive. IMHO,Belt drives will
last much longer, lacking the wear and tear that a direct drive puts
on the bearings. Also, there is less vibration (and eventual wobble as
the bearings wear out). I have nothing against Ryobi tools, just direct
drive table saws. In making your decision, do you want a toy with
"neat" features or do you want a workhorse. Its your $500.
Bennett Leeds
> I recently purchased the Delta, and shopped it against the Ryobi,
> much as it appears that you are doing now. While the Ryobi has a lot
> of neat bells and whistles, I chose the Delta for one primary
> reason:
>
> The Delta is belt driven, the Ryobi is direct drive.
As has been posted here many times, they are both belt driven. The Ryobi's
belt is quite small and is not as readily visible as the Delta's.
That said, there are still some good reasons for choosing the Delta over
the Ryobi (such as the type of motor).
- Bennett Leeds
ben...@mv.us.adobe.com
Benson
>
> Table Saw: Ryobi BT3000 vs Delta Contractors II?
>
> I am currently looking for a table saw. I think I have narrowed my
> selection to either the Ryobi BT3000 or the Delta Contractors II saw.
>
> I will be using the saw for building garage cabinets, an entertainment
> center, bedroom furniture, and quite a few other projects.
> (I will not be framing a house with it.)
>
>
> of each.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Troy Buss
> San Marcos, CA 619-727-9897
> tr...@logitek.com
>
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> Troy D. Buss tr...@logitek.com
> Logitek Systems, San Marcos, CA Tel. 619-727-5517 -4508 fax
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
Try looking for a used Contarcters saw. I got mine for $250. It required tuning,
nothing major, just realigning & stuff...... and it taught me how the thing
works. That sure beats $800. I noticed your in San Marcos; the San Diego
Union often has them in the want adds.
Good Luck
Tom
Jack Feldman
Friday April 21 1995 09:04, Troy D. Buss wrote to All:
TDB> I am looking for feedback from owners of any of these saws and the
TDB> pros/cons of each.
I own the Ryobi, Troy. Have had it for a few months now. And have the
router/jig saw mounting kit and use it quite a bit. It's nice to have a router
table and not have to buy/build that too. The attachments make the Ryobi a far
superior purchase in my estimation. I have and use just about all of them,
including the air-flow table.
Built homes for about 12 years and have used quite a few different saws.
The Ryobi is really like a combination table saw and radial arm with that miter
table. I wholeheartedly endorse it due to the options available over the
Delta, or any other "normal" table saw.
Jack
Paul Houtz
: Table Saw: Ryobi BT3000 vs Delta Contractors II?
: ** Ryobi BT3000: $500
: Nice sliding miter table design which appears to make cross-cutting really
: easy.
I hear this a lot from people who talk about the BT3000.
My question is, why? What is it about the table that makes cross-cutting
easy? Is it because there is less friction?
When I did this comparison, I came up with this:
1. The Ryobi sliding table gives no more crosscut capacity than
the Delta or Powermatic Artisan, or the Jet.
2. The overall table size of the Ryobi is smaller--a definite
disadvantage when trying to cut large sheets.
3. The cross-cut table mechanism is more complex and light-weight.
I seemed to me it would wear quickly and go out of adjustment
in normal use and especially if struck.
This is an important point: When I heft a 4' X 8' sheet of
plywood up onto my tablesaw alone, it drops onto the saw
table. Plywood is heavy and MDF is even heavier.
In my opinion, the crosscut table should be capable withstanding
a blow from a 100 lb object dropping 6 - 12 inches--without
ANY loss of accuracy or setting. It should be able to handle
many of these.
So, when I look at the Ryobi, and I think about dropping a
sheet of 3/4" plywood or particle board on it from a foot high,
It looks to me like afterward, the saw won't be able to make a
straight cut.
The cast-iron table of the Delta, and the miter guage slot
mechanism are impervious to this kind of treatment. You can
drop plywood on them all day long and they will not loose their
adjustment. Eventually, the miter-guage bar will wear in the
slot and will need to be peened--that is all.
: I have also read the Shop Notes table saw review. The JET was the overall
: favorite but I have only found 1 supplier in San Diego that carries the
: Jet saw. Service, parts, and options availability are a concern.
JET has been around for a long time. CB Tool and Supply carries the
brand here. However, the Shop Notes review was a blunder for not comparing
the JET to the Delta machine. The JET is not the same quality saw as
the Delta Contractor's saw. Delta uses much better quality motors and
components. I even measured the JET arbor for runout locally and came
up with .02" which I consider totally unacceptable. My Delta runs less
than .01", probably .005".
Resale value on JET and most Taiwan saws is significantly lower than
for Delta equipment too.
The Ryobi is not a horrible or even bad saw. It is lightweight,
easily portable, and for light-duty work on small projects, it has some
nice features.
But if you are going to be doing heavier work, you might want to consider
the extra money for the Delta 34-444 (Contractor's Saw "1").
Steverox
same company owns a retail outlet that sells Delta and Jet equipment. Any
suprise that they didn't like the mail order equipment. My own opinion is
that Jet and Delta are both good pieces of equipment. I just don't like
them doing reviews when they have biased reviews.
Steve
Ed Bennett
<snip>
: Has anyone upgraded the contractors II to the unifence? Is it worth it or is
: the standard fence on this saw pretty good?
: ** Delta Contractors: $615 $789 w/ 30" Unifence (at time of order)
: I have also looked at the Delta contractors saw, but found I would probably
: upgrade the standard fence to the 30" unifence (model 34-445) at time of
: order. I don't like the standard fence as much as the standard fence on the
: contractors II saw. And I don't like the tiny toggle switch or the lack
: of concentrated saw dust expulsion. Does the extra weight of this
: saw (41 lbs) matter much?
Troy,
You mentioned your desire to upgrade the fence on the contractors saw.
Another thing you might want to consider is that you will not be able to
upgrade the components of the Ryobi. In fact, you will not be able to use
any of the common third party accessories. You will have to be satisfied
with whatever Ryobi supplies for the saw. I've never used the BT3000 but
I've examined it extensively for a customer that wanted me to build a
custom alignment fixture for it. That's the only order I've ever had to
turn down. From what I saw, I had no confidance that it could benifit
from precision alignment. I myself would not be satisfied with the
performance of the fence or the sliding table based on the measurements
I made.
On the other hand, I've used the Delta CS and find it to be a very capable
machine when fitted with a good fence (Unifence, Biesemeyer, etc.). You
can get a good sliding table for it if you wish or just use a sliding
cutoff box (a good cross cut solution that's dirt cheap but isn't possible
with the Ryobi).
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Ed Bennett
e...@primenet.com
Inventor of TS-Aligner
(Not an advertisement, just a fact)
Dave Dorfman - New England SE
I am living for the day when I move out of my cramped workshop and remove
the only possible reason for prefering the BT3000. On that day I will
buy a Delta and a unifence and forget my lifetime of experiences with
the deflecto-master BT3000.
Of course if you want to buy it from me at that time I will offer you
a great deal.
Dave Dorfman
WoodyWorkr
as gifts and really like the quickness in which I can reconfigure the
Ryobi to do different tasks in a hurry. I have cut 4x8 3/4" melanie
single handed on it, so the guy who says it can not be done is nuts. The
sliding table really helps support large pieces. If you work in a garage
and have to move the saw around alot you will love the aluminum..., with
casters the saw moves like a wheelbarrow. Unless you are making a living
with this saw I would buy the Ryobi, If I was to make a living with a TS
I would spend 3 times the cost for a Unisaw, do not waste your $ on the
Contractor or anything less in that case.
Bernie Swanson
Bellevue, WA
Ed Bennett
<Lots removed>
: can get a good sliding table for it if you wish or just use a sliding
: cutoff box (a good cross cut solution that's dirt cheap but isn't possible
: with the Ryobi).
How about this! Commenting on my own comments. Actually I received an
email from a BT3000 owner explaining that it IS possible to make a
sliding cutoff box for the machine. He used the sides of the machine
as guides. When I asked him about alignment he related that it wasn't
exactly straight forward but that he had managed to produce a pretty
precise setup.
William DuBroff
BT3000, it is possible (I did it) to make a hardwood slotted board that
works just fine. After doing this, I wrote Ryobi and asked why they did
not make a similar device from aluminum. Their response was to send me
a "beta" device for evaluation. A final production model should be
available shortly.
Paul Houtz
: For those who would like to use a slot-based attachment on the Ryobi
No flame, but let me get this straight: Ryobi comes out with it's
"precision cutting system" which Ryobi claims is an advancement over
previous saws.
Now they are making another advance by providing miter guage slots,
like Delta and Powermatic (etc.) have been doing for years?
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Wm Phillips
>: For those who would like to use a slot-based attachment on the Ryobi
G. Paul Houtz wrote:
> No flame, but let me get this straight: Ryobi comes out with it's
>"precision cutting system" which Ryobi claims is an advancement over
>previous saws.
>
>Now they are making another advance by providing miter guage slots,
>like Delta and Powermatic (etc.) have been doing for years?
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I use the Ryobi and believe it is an advance in saw design, esp in view of
its price range. That they want to offer a miter gauge slot for such things
as Mortising fixtures, etc. merely displays their commitment to continuing
the developement of the machine.
I don't believe this is an indictment of Ryobi, or Delta, et al for that
matter. I find the Ryobi an excellent machine which is not say there is no
room for the others or even that they are not preferable in certain
situations (I would imagine high volume work would be more suitable on a
heavy, iron topped, unisaw with outfeed tables... .)
It may be though, that the stasis in saw developement with some of the more
famous makes reflects a form of "sitting on one's laurels". If so, that is
a dangerous position to take as N.A. industry (e.g. automotive, electronic)
has found out.
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As an aside, A year or so back I was on a woodworking listserv (Possibly
even this one -- can't remember) that I finally stopped subscribing to. A
large part of the discussions seemed to centre on the relative merits of
certain well known woodsy personalities. I am gratified that is not (no
longer?) the case here. The level of discussion I seen since (re)joining
this list is promising... .
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William DuBroff
sliding miter table for about $400.
Bob Knowlton
>tr...@logitek.com (Troy D. Buss) wrote:
>>
>> Table Saw: Ryobi BT3000 vs Delta Contractors II?
>>
>> I am currently looking for a table saw. I think I have narrowed my
>> selection to either the Ryobi BT3000 or the Delta Contractors II saw.
As Bennett noted, this is a much-discussed comparison.
The Ryobi has two belts, actually, side by side. They do break, and
they cost around 11 dollars. Some disassembly required. The fence
roller holder, a plastic part critical for keeping the fence clamped
to the rails, also breaks. It only costs a dollar, but your rip fence
cannot be used until the roller holder is replaced.
The Ryobi is a neat design, but is generally more fragile and more
difficult to tune that the Delta. I have one of each. I bought the
Delta CS while the Ryobi was in Ft. Worth for replacement of a
defective table casting. The misalignment of the table casting/motor
has been corrected in the newer models.
The main reason I have kept the Ryobi is that its resale value is
considerably less, percentagewise, than a Delta's would be. It still
makes great cuts and is a fine tool, but having used both saws
extensively, I would recommend the Delta.
Bob Knowlton
know...@sccsi.com
Paul Houtz
: Yes, Ryobi is coming out with slots like Delta came out with a
However, as I understand it, the Delta sliding table gives you 4 foot
crosscut capacity where the Ryobi sliding table gives no more crosscut
capacity than the standard Delta 34-444 with miter gauge slots (I believe
about 12").
I examined the Delta table locally this weekend. It is pretty solid.
I asked the sales person if it would go out of adjustment if a piece of
plywood were dropped on it. He said, "I dunno, let's try it." and
went in the back and got a piece of 3/4" 4X8 plywood from an old shipping
crate.
We held it 3 feet above the saw and dropped it. We had quite an audience
by the time we had done it 3 times.
The Delta sliding table was in perfect condition afterwards. It was still
in good adjustment and was square to blade.
I asked if he wanted to try it with the BT3000 that was set up on the
other side of the room. That got a pretty good laugh from the audience.
We didn't try it.
Delta has been selling a sliding table for their tablesaws for many years,
but the price was quite a bit higher. Other sliding tables have been
around for quite a number of years, too. In the past, there hasn't been
enough interest in them to justify a lower cost model.
The Ryobi has some nice features, mainly that it is a lightweight saw.
It fills a niche that other saws don't fill. For a moderate price
it is not a terrible saw.
However, a technological breakthrough it ain't.
Any more on this subject from me would have to be considered a flame.
WoodyWorkr
its not what you ride its that you ride. As this pertains to the topic of
a high tech, lightweight, flexible machine versus a solid, cast iron,
tried and trued, but basically unchanged design, reminds me a someone
comparing my Honda VFR crotch rocket to a Hardley-Ableson. No flame here,
just an attempt at humor.
Bernie Swanson
Bellevue, WA
"its not what you cut on, its that you cut"
Paul Houtz
: Another 2 cents worth, If we were talking about motorcycles, I would say
: its not what you ride its that you ride. As this pertains to the topic of
: a high tech, lightweight, flexible machine versus a solid, cast iron,
: tried and trued, but basically unchanged design, reminds me a someone
: comparing my Honda VFR crotch rocket to a Hardley-Ableson. No flame here,
: just an attempt at humor.
Unfortunately, the comparison isn't valid.
* The Delta machine is a tried and true performer that is very high
quality and very reliable. It needs little maintenance or adjustment.
* The Harley Davidson has a reputation for being unreliable and requiring
frequent work. Many people (yourself included, aparently) believe that
Harleys spend more time in the shop than on the road. Aftermarket
add-ons like oil cooling and filtering units, etc. are necessary and
should have been part of the original design.
* Honda VFR is a high quality machine made to close tolerances and is
ideally suited to many riding needs. It goes fast, stops quickly,
and is very reliable.
* The BT3000 is a lightweight machine with too much plastic, it has a
glitzey sliding table that offers essentially no benefit over a
standard miter guage except that it must be adjusted more often.
The 15 amp universal motor is noisey and has no overload protection,
so if you overload it, you burn it up.
I think a better comparison would be:
Delta Contractors saw is to a Volvo Station wagon as
the Ryobi BT300 is to a Hyundai Xcel (I was going to compare the
Ryobi to a Yugo, but that was going a bit far...it does work and
it isn't really a bad saw).
WoodyWorkr
Ryobi because of many reasons that made it the right decision for me. TThe
same reason I bought a Honda VFR and not a Harley. On the subject of
capability, I like the support the sliding table gives me when
crosscutting large pieces of wood. That 18inch wide vs 6 inch wide mitre
gauge in no comparison. Try crosscutting a 4x8 sheet with a 6 inch wide
mitre gauge. If a person was to make a living out of a TS then do not
waste your money on either of these saws, Go spend 2 thousand on a Unisaw.
Also, what kinda nut likes to bounce plywood from 3 feet on their power
tools? Did someone drop something on their head?
I think everyone wants to feel that they made the right choice of the tool
they purchased, and you know what, you will... Just take your time and do
not be rushed. Be patient and look at the big picture.
Bernie Swanson
Bellevue, WA. In the Great North Wet (read rust, you cast iron lovers)
Bill DuBroff
Bill DuBroff
Dennis Fallon
>Ryobi because of many reasons that made it the right decision for me.
>subject of capability, I like the support the sliding table gives me
>when crosscutting large pieces of wood. That 18inch wide vs 6 inch
>wide mitre gauge in no comparison.
You're right that the mitre gauge is no comparison. The classic mitre
gauge & 3/8 x 3/4 slot is a flexible system that allows you to change
mitre gauges and use jigs that fit in the mitre slots ... The Delta
gauge has two holes in it designed for you to attach a piece of wood
for auxiliary support. Put an 18 inch auxiliary fence on a Delta mitre
gauge and then tell me which saw has "more support". Better yet, throw
together a crosscutting jig with *two* guides - one on either side of
the blade ... The Ryobi might be able to do some things right out of
the box that a contractor-type saw can't. But a contractor saw can do
everything the Ryobi can and a heck of a lot more if you're willing to
build the jigs. If you don't want to do that, and are happy with the
limitations of the BT3000, or if you need a light weight saw, then
maybe the BT3000 is the way to go.
- Dennis
Paul Houtz
: Please re read my posting, I was not blasting the Delta, I just bought the
: Ryobi because of many reasons that made it the right decision for me. TThe
: same reason I bought a Honda VFR and not a Harley. On the subject of
: capability, I like the support the sliding table gives me when
: crosscutting large pieces of wood. That 18inch wide vs 6 inch wide mitre
: mitre gauge.
Interesting. Can you cross-cut a 4X8 sheet of plywood on the Ryobi
BT3000 sliding miter table? I don't think it will get you more than
about 1/3 of the way through the plywood.
: If a person was to make a living out of a TS then do not
: waste your money on either of these saws, Go spend 2 thousand on a Unisaw.
I doubt it. Tage Frid has been making a living on his contractor's saw
for quite a while. Some of the furniture he has made with this saw is now
in museums. Besides, spending 2 thousand on a Unisaw would be kinda
excessive when they only cost about $1600 :-)
: Also, what kinda nut likes to bounce plywood from 3 feet on their power
: tools? Did someone drop something on their head?
If you really work with a saw, as I do, and you really actually DO cut
plywood your saw (as I do and apparently you do not), then you would
know that hefting big sheets of plywood up onto tablesaws is difficult
work, and sometimes you loose control and it slams down on the table.
In fact, working alone, it happens fairly often. If it knocks everything
out of adjustment every time, it is irritating and time consuming.
One of the requirements of working with heavy sheet goods is something
than can take a little punishment. You don't have to be a nut to
understand that.
: I think everyone wants to feel that they made the right choice of the tool
: they purchased, and you know what, you will... Just take your time and do
: not be rushed. Be patient and look at the big picture.
Personally, I don't give a rip about people who have bought a table
saw and now want to feel good about it no matter what it is like.
I am more concerned with people who are about to buy a saw and would
like facts about the saws, rather than hype from people who bought one
and then sold it a year later :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
Like it or not, this forum is one source of information for such people.
Getting religious about BT3000 without SAYING what features make it
good doesn't help anyone. Attacking people who have actually evaluated
and tested the saws and gathered information about them is truly difficult
to understand, at least for me.
Comparing it to a motorcycle helps no one.
Calling people nuts for discussing some of the reasons they actually
prefer one saw to another is pretty bad citizenship. Think about it.
Has anyone called YOU a nut on this forum lately?
WoodyWorkr
one. It also appears you are a LITTLE defensive by your reply. I am not
even going to get into the merits or comparisons of the 2 saw because I
know I made the right decision. Let people make their own, I researched
via libraries and published reviews and bought the best saw for me for
the money. By reading your reply I would figure you for some 275lb hairy,
lazy ,unionized rednecked, beerdrinking kinda jerk. Makes me want to
sell my HP equipment and stock.
Without
Regards
Bernie
Paul Houtz
: Opinions are like assholes and it is obvious that you have a very large
: Without
: Regards
: Bernie
Actually, Bernie, You have it totally wrong. I don't look anything like
that.
Imagine Homer Simpson. Now imagine someone who looks like Homer, but
is uglier and just a little bit more stupid. Got it?
The you have pretty good impression of what I look like. Homer, only
uglier and stupider. Oh, and did I mention the smell?
HP? They made me take my picture off our Web page, because it was so
ugly it was giving the company a bad reputation. Why, the day I put
it on, our stock dropped 2 points. Two days later, when I took it
off, it rebounded 3 points.
Fortunately, HP doesn't let me work on anything really crucial. I just
sweep floors, wipe windows, and fool around on the internet. They are
actually grateful that I bother the productive people less now that I
have found rec.woodworking.
Ed Bennett
: By reading your reply I would figure you for some 275lb hairy,
: lazy ,unionized rednecked, beerdrinking kinda jerk. Makes me want to
: sell my HP equipment and stock.
Heavy, hairy, lazy, rednecked, or beerdrinking maybe, I don't know. But
this I do know: NOT UNIONIZED. HP is a union free company. Keep your
equipment and stock because HP (being non union) can and does compete on
a global level (even selling LOTS of product in Japan).
Raymond Hearn
>
>WoodyWorkr (woody...@aol.com) wrote:
>: Opinions are like assholes and it is obvious that you have a very
large
>: one.
>: By reading your reply I would figure you for some 275lb hairy,
>: lazy ,unionized rednecked, beerdrinking kinda jerk. Makes me want
to
>: sell my HP equipment and stock.
>
>: Without
>: Regards
>: Bernie
>
> Actually, Bernie, You have it totally wrong. I don't look anything
like
> that.
>
> Imagine Homer Simpson. Now imagine someone who looks like Homer, but
> is uglier and just a little bit more stupid. Got it?
>
> The you have pretty good impression of what I look like. Homer, only
> uglier and stupider. Oh, and did I mention the smell?
>
> HP? They made me take my picture off our Web page, because it was so
> ugly it was giving the company a bad reputation. Why, the day I put
> it on, our stock dropped 2 points. Two days later, when I took it
> off, it rebounded 3 points.
>
> Fortunately, HP doesn't let me work on anything really crucial. I
just
> sweep floors, wipe windows, and fool around on the internet. They
are
> actually grateful that I bother the productive people less now that I
> have found rec.woodworking.
>
>--
G. Paul,
Well done, I think you handled Mr WoodyWorker quite correctly, his lack
of manners shows through his grammer, or lack of it.
How in the heck did he get my description???
Ray-Atlanta