Delta XL-10?
Dan Scott
behind in reading news.
I've just about convinced myself to buy Delta's 34-670 table saw
when a Williams Tool and Hardware catalog shows up advertising a Delta
XL-10 table saw for about the same price. Is anyone familiar with
this saw? It looks quite similiar to the 34-670. Any information
would be appreciated as I can't find a store that carries either model
locally.
Dan Scott
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24224-guthrie
> I've just about convinced myself to buy Delta's 34-670 table saw
>when a Williams Tool and Hardware catalog shows up advertising a Delta
>XL-10 table saw for about the same price. Is anyone familiar with
>this saw? It looks quite similiar to the 34-670. Any information
>would be appreciated as I can't find a store that carries either model
>locally.
As I've posted before, in more detail, I'd stay away from the 34-670 saw.
I owned one (actually, I still have what's left of it).
The motor screams. The motor in mine self-destructed within three years
of purchase under light use. The design is such that it can only be
replaced with another Delta motor (it's a direct drive). Don't know about
you, but I'm not fond of replacing the motor every three years at a cost
of about $125.
I bought a Grizzly, and so far I'm happy with it. Whatever *you* buy,
I think you'd do well to get one with a belt drive.
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Barry D. Smith
In article <1261mg...@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> dsc...@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Dan Scott) writes:
> I've just about convinced myself to buy Delta's 34-670 table saw
>when a Williams Tool and Hardware catalog shows up advertising a Delta
>XL-10 table saw for about the same price. Is anyone familiar with
>this saw? It looks quite similiar to the 34-670. Any information
>would be appreciated as I can't find a store that carries either model
>locally.
As I've posted before, in more detail, I'd stay away from the 34-670 saw.
I owned one (actually, I still have what's left of it).
The motor screams. The motor in mine self-destructed within three years
of purchase under light use. The design is such that it can only be
replaced with another Delta motor (it's a direct drive). Don't know about
you, but I'm not fond of replacing the motor every three years at a cost
of about $125.
George Patterson
There are 2 Delta table saws that cost about the same. I'm not sure
if the 34-670 is the one with the universal motor or not, but the
XL-10 appears to be an update of the Super 10. The Super 10 has an
induction motor, which is much quieter and more durable than a
universal motor, especially for applications like this. I own a Super
10 and have been reasonably happy with it. I've owned it for the last
3 or 4 years and have had no significant problems, and I use it pretty
heavily. My dust collector is much noisier than the table saw. If
the design or quality was fundamentally flawed, Delta would have
stopped selling it long ago, since they've sold many of them and give
a 2 year warranty. As usual, for every complaint there's someone who
likes it (this includes Grizzly and every other brand I can think of).
Pick the one that appears to be well made and that you can afford.
Barry Smith
24224-guthrie
>There are 2 Delta table saws that cost about the same. I'm not sure
>if the 34-670 is the one with the universal motor or not, ...
That's the one. I also have a Delta mitre saw (chop saw), and it appears
to have the same motor.
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david.boyle
> In article <BDS.92Ju...@maui.linus.mitre.org> b...@maui.linus.mitre.org (Barry D. Smith) writes:
>
> >There are 2 Delta table saws that cost about the same. I'm not sure
> >if the 34-670 is the one with the universal motor or not, ...
>
> That's the one. I also have a Delta mitre saw (chop saw), and it appears
> to have the same motor.
I'm looking to get a mitre saw and would like to get some opinions on the
Delta. I don't think I'll go the big bucks for the sliding type, although
the makita looks nice in that department.
Anyhow, I'm not sure of the model #, but the Delta I saw at a Home Depot
was $220, and it also does compound cuts. Their non-compound model was
$197. Any help appreciated.
Regards,
Dave
24224-guthrie
>Anyhow, I'm not sure of the model #, but the Delta I saw at a Home Depot
>was $220, and it also does compound cuts. Their non-compound model was
>$197. Any help appreciated.
I have the non-compound model. It's adequate for my purposes (I'm doing
trim moulding work with it. I built plywood extensions on both sides,
with 2 x 4 supports, and mounted it on small sawhorses.
A few comments -
1. The motor is quite loud and "screams" (I can't think of a better
way to put it). You won't be popular with the neighbors, and you
will *need* hearing protection.
2. The dust collector port is located on the back of the housing,
where it hits walls and anything else around. It's also made of
plastic. It won't be around long.
3. The dust collector port is also an odd size. By odd, I mean that
*nothing* on the market will connect right up to it. Delta wants
to be able to sell you an adapter to hook up to your shop vac or
your dust collector.
4. As I've said before in more detail, after my experience with my
Delta table saw, I will not do business with Delta. I would
definitely recommend against purchase of their chop saw, since it
has the same motor as my table saw had.
Go for the Makita.
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bill nelson
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: 1. The motor is quite loud and "screams" (I can't think of a better
: way to put it). You won't be popular with the neighbors, and you
: will *need* hearing protection.
Is it the motor, or the blade that screams. To find out, turn it on
without a blade.
Bill
W. B. Ligon III
With universal motors (such as the ones refered to), it is usually
neither ... rather it is the *gears* that these motors employ to reduce
their high RPM that "scream". The sound is quite different from that of
a whiring blade. A much higher pitch and a much more "grating" sound
quality. It is much the same noise you find out of hand power drills,
circular saws, and shop-vacs. This is one of the many nice things
about induction motors, they turn at a naturally lower speed, and
so do not require gears, and so make less noise - and the noise they
do make is of a much lower pitch - and therefore less anoying. On tools
with induction motors, blade noise CAN be significant, but I've yet
to notice blade noise on my circular saw or most of the chop-saws I've
used.
Walt
24224-guthrie
I have and it's the motor.
To give you some idea of the sound; I have my "shop" in the garage of my
house, and the neighbors across the street told my mother (who visited
recently) that they "hear the saw going all the time". Compared to some
areas of New Jersey, mine is not a heavily congested neighborhood, but
it's not real quiet either.
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Doug Cutler
>
>I have and it's the motor.
>
internal belt reduction system. As the blade runs at 5500 rpm I really
don't know what the motor turns at but you can guess that the cooling fan
works just as good as sirien(sp) !!. As for hearing protection, I
havn't put a SPL meter near one but I bet it is up in the high 90's for sure,
though the effect will depend somewhat on your workshop structure.
Doug. Cutler Office of Information Technology,
VM Systems Programmer University of North Carolina.