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RonB
Jun 20, 2012, 8:13:53 AM6/20/12
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I am building a couple of Adirondack chairs from Redwood. I found
some nice clear Redwood for most of the visible slats, arms etc.
Under-structure is construction grade Redwood. This stuff is hard to
find in Kansas.
I want to preserve the color and not let it gray out. I have googled
and found lots of recommendations for oils including teak oil and
others. So many variations I am about as confused as when I started.
A suitable penetrating oil seems to be the way to go. Do any of you
guys have experience with a similar project? They will be outdoors.
Thanks
RonB
some nice clear Redwood for most of the visible slats, arms etc.
Under-structure is construction grade Redwood. This stuff is hard to
find in Kansas.
I want to preserve the color and not let it gray out. I have googled
and found lots of recommendations for oils including teak oil and
others. So many variations I am about as confused as when I started.
A suitable penetrating oil seems to be the way to go. Do any of you
guys have experience with a similar project? They will be outdoors.
Thanks
RonB
SonomaProducts.com
Jun 20, 2012, 9:40:13 AM6/20/12
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Penofin oil. It comes in clear but will darken the wood but it is beautiful. Also comes in toned colors so you can shift towards a red. I prefer the clear.
I know a local guy who builds very high-end redwood furniture and you can't get it from him without Penofin. Contractors also swear by it.
Others should confirm on here I believe.
I know a local guy who builds very high-end redwood furniture and you can't get it from him without Penofin. Contractors also swear by it.
Others should confirm on here I believe.
Baron
Jun 20, 2012, 11:31:10 AM6/20/12
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"RonB" <rnrb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I suggest you use the least expensive oil or oil / film finish mixture
you can find that is suitable for outdoor use. None of these finishes will
last more than a year or three. The wood turns gray due to light and water.
You will have to retreat every year. One goal is to use something that you
will not have to apply more than once a year. I do not think you would want
to apply the oil twice or three times during the spring or summer months.
Good Luck.
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you can find that is suitable for outdoor use. None of these finishes will
last more than a year or three. The wood turns gray due to light and water.
You will have to retreat every year. One goal is to use something that you
will not have to apply more than once a year. I do not think you would want
to apply the oil twice or three times during the spring or summer months.
Good Luck.
dadiOH
Jun 20, 2012, 12:14:39 PM6/20/12
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RonB wrote:
> I am building a couple of Adirondack chairs from Redwood. I found
> some nice clear Redwood for most of the visible slats, arms etc.
> Under-structure is construction grade Redwood. This stuff is hard to
> find in Kansas.
>
> I want to preserve the color and not let it gray out. I have googled
> and found lots of recommendations for oils including teak oil and
> others. So many variations I am about as confused as when I started.
That's because the manufacturers are selling snake oil. The preponderance
> I am building a couple of Adirondack chairs from Redwood. I found
> some nice clear Redwood for most of the visible slats, arms etc.
> Under-structure is construction grade Redwood. This stuff is hard to
> find in Kansas.
>
> I want to preserve the color and not let it gray out. I have googled
> and found lots of recommendations for oils including teak oil and
> others. So many variations I am about as confused as when I started.
of the oil finishes are using boiled linseed oil. It protects well, does
darken as it ages. How much it darkens depends upon how much was absorbed.
You wouldn't notice the darkening on redwood assuming it is heart redwood.
Another often used oil is tung oil, comes from the nut of the tung tree. It
doesn't darken, is good stuff. There are other oils derived from trees
too...penofin uses rosewood oil.
Many manufacturers also include some varnish in their product. The names
that manufacturers give their products are frequently misleading (by
design); e.g., you can bet that anything that calls itself "tung oil finish"
is mostly linseed oil with a dollop of tung.
Personally, I am happy with linseed oil, tung if I want to be fancy. It is
more expensive to buy but can be diluted with paint thinner 3-4:1.
Regardless of what you use, expect to renew it as soon as water stops
beading.
--
dadiOH
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Douglas Johnson
Jun 20, 2012, 3:03:16 PM6/20/12
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"SonomaProducts.com" <bwx...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Penofin oil.
-- Doug
>Penofin oil.
>Others should confirm on here I believe.
Yep.
-- Doug
Lew Hodgett
Jun 20, 2012, 3:29:42 PM6/20/12
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Snake oil.
What ever brand you choose, expect to apply it at least semi annualy.
Lew
Ed Pawlowski
Jun 20, 2012, 5:39:20 PM6/20/12
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 05:13:53 -0700 (PDT), RonB <rnrb...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Penofin. I've used it on furniture and I'm in the process of
rebuilding my deck with Tigerwood decking. The Penofin oil makes it
look beautiful. Other wood that I've coated once a year still looks
good and has not grayed out.
wrote:
rebuilding my deck with Tigerwood decking. The Penofin oil makes it
look beautiful. Other wood that I've coated once a year still looks
good and has not grayed out.
John Shear
Jun 25, 2012, 10:23:52 AM6/25/12
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I went to the local paint store that contractors prefer, and asked what
they use on house exteriors. Got Sikkens Cetol and have been impressed
by that.
John S.
they use on house exteriors. Got Sikkens Cetol and have been impressed
by that.
John S.
RonB
Jun 25, 2012, 1:05:41 PM6/25/12
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On Jun 25, 9:23 am, John Shear <jsh...@NOSPAMsgi.com> wrote:
> I went to the local paint store that contractors prefer, and asked what
> they use on house exteriors. Got Sikkens Cetol and have been impressed
> by that.
>
> > Thanks
> I went to the local paint store that contractors prefer, and asked what
> they use on house exteriors. Got Sikkens Cetol and have been impressed
> by that.
>
> > RonB
Sikkens is one that has popped up in separate research with the
Penofin that several have mentioned here. Also, I have found several
recipes for exterior finish that are similar to home-brew wiping
finish. The most common recipe is:
- 1/3 Spar Varnish
- 1/3 BLO
- 1/3 Mineral Spirits.
The ratios vary a little but the spar varnish is supposed to provide
the UV protection and flexibility. This reminded me of the Maloof
finish which was very similar and simple. I have chair #2 about 1/2
finished ant then I'm gonna have to do something.
RonB
Ed Pawlowski
Jun 25, 2012, 10:18:45 PM6/25/12
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On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:23:52 -0500, John Shear <jsh...@NOSPAMsgi.com>
wrote:
>I went to the local paint store that contractors prefer, and asked what
>they use on house exteriors. Got Sikkens Cetol and have been impressed
>by that.
>
>John S.
Good luck, I hope it works better for you than for me. It is supposed
to be very good, but the only outdoor wood (cypress) that ever rotted
on me had Cetol on it. Maybe I got a bad batch of wood or Cetol.
wrote:
>I went to the local paint store that contractors prefer, and asked what
>they use on house exteriors. Got Sikkens Cetol and have been impressed
>by that.
>
>John S.
to be very good, but the only outdoor wood (cypress) that ever rotted
on me had Cetol on it. Maybe I got a bad batch of wood or Cetol.
RonB
Jul 1, 2012, 7:51:48 PM7/1/12
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On Jun 20, 7:13 am, RonB <rnrbro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Thanks for a lot of good input. I finished the chairs last week and
opted to go with a home-blended mixture of equal parts mineral
spirits, BLO and spar varnish. I have four coats applied and will
sand lightly for the second time tomorrow and put on a fifth and
probably final coat. The home-brew provides a beautiful finish on the
redwood, each coat slightly darker and more red.
Of course time will tell on durability.'
RonB
Thanks for a lot of good input. I finished the chairs last week and
opted to go with a home-blended mixture of equal parts mineral
spirits, BLO and spar varnish. I have four coats applied and will
sand lightly for the second time tomorrow and put on a fifth and
probably final coat. The home-brew provides a beautiful finish on the
redwood, each coat slightly darker and more red.
Of course time will tell on durability.'
RonB
in...@best-redwood.com
Feb 26, 2020, 2:07:50 PM2/26/20
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