I remember talking to a friend of mine who does auto paint jobs and
custom helmets and hockey masks. He said that on the occasion he can't
find any 2000-ish grit for his final inspection wet sanding, he'll just
grab some printer paper.
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Yup, an old finisher buddy taught me that trick and it works great.
Brown lunch bag or newspaper works well too
They're also good for removing light surface rust without damaging a
finish such as bluing, I've been told for forever not to cut
cardboard because it is abrasive and will dull a knife. I've been
ignoring this for forever and just sharpening the (various) knives
when they get dull (from whatever reason).
And speaking of rust, the first thing I try on light rust is a coarse
terrycloth rag with some light oil (auto trans fluid works well).
This will usually remove rust with a good scrubbing, but won't harm
bluing or other finish.
Sonny
It's been discussed here a number of times in the past. AAMOF, nothing
work like a brown paper bag on the final coat of shellac a week after it
cures.
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Amazing what I can learn from this site. What a great group. WW
>
I've never used shellac.
What about it makes the paper so good?
What's it doing to the shellac?
Is this a variant of the turner's trick of grabbing a handful of swarf
to burnish the finished workpiece? I thought that was mainly
heat and the resins and sap doing a quick polish. I'm partial to the
waxy-string method, myself.
It is abrasive. The guys that do knives use it for final sharpen/
polish, I believe. A "paper" wheel, IIRC.
>On 11/3/10 4:54 PM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 11/3/2010 1:11 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>> The guy at woodcraft suggested using regular old brown paper grocery
>>> bags, instead of 320-400-ish sandpaper, to knock off the raised grain
>>> after staining. Well, I just tried it and it seemed to do a pretty good
>>> job.
>>
>> It's been discussed here a number of times in the past. AAMOF, nothing
>> work like a brown paper bag on the final coat of shellac a week after it
>> cures.
>>
>
>I've never used shellac.
>What about it makes the paper so good?
>What's it doing to the shellac?
The friction heats the shellac just enough to burnish it, and it is
just rough enough to both cause the friction and then burnish it super
smooth.
Newspaper makes a perfect "polishing cloth" for cleaning window glass.
Doesn't really mater if it has print on it or not.(but some seem to
think the ink actually helps - I've not noticed one way or the other)
Serious? Tell me you're not just making that up (like some guys in
here). :-)
Makes sense to me.
I learned the newspaper window cleaning trick years ago and I will
always use it to clean glass. Just water with a drop of dish soap and
newspaper is sooooo much faster than any other method.
No streaks.
So did I, Basic training.
Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org
>On 11/3/10 8:54 PM, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>> On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:33:05 -0500, -MIKE-<mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/3/10 4:54 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>>> On 11/3/2010 1:11 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>> The guy at woodcraft suggested using regular old brown paper grocery
>>>>> bags, instead of 320-400-ish sandpaper, to knock off the raised grain
>>>>> after staining. Well, I just tried it and it seemed to do a pretty good
>>>>> job.
>>>>
>>>> It's been discussed here a number of times in the past. AAMOF, nothing
>>>> work like a brown paper bag on the final coat of shellac a week after it
>>>> cures.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I've never used shellac.
>>> What about it makes the paper so good?
>>> What's it doing to the shellac?
>> The friction heats the shellac just enough to burnish it, and it is
>> just rough enough to both cause the friction and then burnish it super
>> smooth.
>
>Serious? Tell me you're not just making that up (like some guys in
>here). :-)
>Makes sense to me.
Serious.
>On 11/3/10 8:54 PM, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>> On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:33:05 -0500, -MIKE-<mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/3/10 4:54 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>>> On 11/3/2010 1:11 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>> The guy at woodcraft suggested using regular old brown paper grocery
>>>>> bags, instead of 320-400-ish sandpaper, to knock off the raised grain
>>>>> after staining. Well, I just tried it and it seemed to do a pretty good
>>>>> job.
>>>>
>>>> It's been discussed here a number of times in the past. AAMOF, nothing
>>>> work like a brown paper bag on the final coat of shellac a week after it
>>>> cures.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I've never used shellac.
>>> What about it makes the paper so good?
>>> What's it doing to the shellac?
>> The friction heats the shellac just enough to burnish it, and it is
>> just rough enough to both cause the friction and then burnish it super
>> smooth.
>
>Serious? Tell me you're not just making that up (like some guys in
>here). :-)
>Makes sense to me.
See the "frugal wood-turner" at
http://books.google.ca/books?id=Dsgb2gZSl3EC&pg=PA122&lpg=PA122&dq=burnish+shellac&source=bl&ots=07LgQnkGBl&sig=jE43yM9Xt5Q8VCSdarkNgFDkVIo&hl=en&ei=ky3STIXxOdPangfF1dwJ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CCQQ6AEwBzge#v=onepage&q=burnish%20shellac&f=false
for a supporting reference. I know, the URL is longer than the
reference!!!!!
>On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:33:05 -0500, -MIKE- <mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On 11/3/10 4:54 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>> On 11/3/2010 1:11 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>>>> The guy at woodcraft suggested using regular old brown paper grocery
>>>> bags, instead of 320-400-ish sandpaper, to knock off the raised grain
>>>> after staining. Well, I just tried it and it seemed to do a pretty good
>>>> job.
>>>
>>> It's been discussed here a number of times in the past. AAMOF, nothing
>>> work like a brown paper bag on the final coat of shellac a week after it
>>> cures.
>>>
>>
>>I've never used shellac.
It really is worth giving a try. I use it all the time on items like
picture frames or furniture that does not get high wear. It is
inexpensive, easy to pad or brush (with the right technique) and dries
fast.
>>What about it makes the paper so good?
>>What's it doing to the shellac?
> The friction heats the shellac just enough to burnish it, and it is
>just rough enough to both cause the friction and then burnish it super
>smooth.
Or to put it another way, the friction warms the shellac and softens
it on the surface. And then the burnishing effect of the paper smooths
the shellac.
That won't work the same on a varnish that cures with oxygen.
But did you learn that a chamois skin works even better for the final
wipes?
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-- Minna Thomas Antrim
Oak rust, suspended in animal fat and rubbed in with Festool
Brownbagpaper™ is the ticket for me.
I learned that there was usually some free and available newspaper any
and everywhere, within reach of windows. Chamois, not so much. :-)
I'm still laughing... it's not getting old. :-)
Brownbagpaper™ sold in packs of one for $24.99.... on sale at Woodcraft,
4 for $100.
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Not a lot of chamois laying around the barracks.
Should work even better if you rubbed a bit of jeweler's rouge
into the paper.
I used it again today, to knock the dust off of the spray satin topcoat
I put over the dye.
Was faster than a synthetic buffing pad I normally use.
So hit the BX/PX, boy. Doubletime!
One of my guys used to, and I emphasize 'used to' clean his glasses
with paper shop towels. Scratched the shite out of the coating on his
polycarbonate lenses. Paper is fibre. Fibres have 'ends' on
them...those are scratchy. Do not use TP to blow your nose for any
extended period of time during a cold, you'll end up looking like WC
Fields.
> Do not use TP to blow your nose for any
> extended period of time during a cold, you'll end up looking like WC
> Fields.
>
Your Dutch heritage shows. I remember Dutch TP as about 80 grit. Ouch ...
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LOL!!...that brown stuff was brutal! (But did the job.)
I have found a better way to clean windows, have tried the news paper with
ok results. Use a window cleaner and wipe off with a microfiber towel. The
micro fiber towel will not swish the dirt around but will capture and
retain the dirt. Additionally car wax will help prevent the window from
getting dirty again as quickly and will remove those tough spots.
> Your Dutch heritage shows. I remember Dutch TP as about 80 grit.
> Ouch ...
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Next thing will be the red corn cob, white corn cob, red corn cob
story.
Lew
I don't know that story, but my imagination is begging you not to tell
it.
> I don't know that story, but my imagination is begging you not to
> tell
it.
--------------------------------
A story that can only truly be appreciated by an out house
connoisseur.
Lew
It is an old bathroom joke consisting of two red corn cobs and one white
- in a box with a cellophane cover and a notice that said "In case of
emergency, break glass." It went on to give instructions something like
"Use red cob first. Then use white cob to see if second red cob needed."
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> One of my guys used to, and I emphasize 'used to' clean his glasses
> with paper shop towels. Scratched the shite out of the coating on his
> polycarbonate lenses. Paper is fibre. Fibres have 'ends' on
> them...those are scratchy. Do not use TP to blow your nose for any
> extended period of time during a cold, you'll end up looking like WC
> Fields.
Preach it brother. Don't people know that's what shirt sleeves are for?
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mmarlo...@windstream.net
Ummmmmm... you're not supposed to use the TP with the brown stuff on it...
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mmarlo...@windstream.net
>> LOL!!...that brown stuff was brutal! (But did the job.)
>
> Ummmmmm... you're not supposed to use the TP with the brown stuff on
> it...
Dutch TP used to have a greyish-brown color, like faded brown bag paper.
Color like that. Texture indeed close to 60-grit sandpaper.
Pulp paper is made from wood, rag paper is made from
cloth. Pulp paper is going to scratch a LOT more than
100% rag, as my test on shellac with a sheet of printer
paper bore out last night. Use it for smoothing anything
short of the final glaze coat on French polish.
I never could figure out outhouses with two holes... what...take a
dump with a buddy? Wha?
I did hear of a Newfoundlander who stuck a leg down each hole and
crapped his pants...but...
Yeah - I took that from the original discourse - I was trying to be funny...
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mmarlo...@windstream.net
>
> I never could figure out outhouses with two holes... what...take a
> dump with a buddy? Wha?
>
I always thought they were a his-n-hers concept. But then I met my wife...
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mmarlo...@windstream.net
"Robatoy" <counte...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> I never could figure out outhouses with two holes... what...take a
> dump with a buddy? Wha?
>
For you city folks, who don't have much experience in outhouse design and
implementation, it may seem a mystery.
But as a country boy, who had to dig and build outhouses from time to time,
there is a practical consideration. It has to do with volume. If enough
people use one hole, you will fill up the ground hole and make the whole
outhouse experience extremely uncomfortable. By going to two holes, you get
a more even distribution of, cough, cough, well, you know.
Back in the day, they just used to drag the outhouse to a new hole/location
when one started to fill up. But when folks (and livestock) started to fall
in to the old holes, somebody came up with the two hole design. By the way,
I have seen three and four hole designs.
And for the real classy outhouses in snow country, they have styrofoam
seats. Much warmer on the behind when using the facility sitting down in
sub zero weather.
Yup.
I've been using the brown paper bag idea for quite a while.
Only slightly off topic: newspaper is probably the best thing to use
to clean glass (eg, your windshield). Seems the ink acts like a fine
pumice.
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Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA
A cliche is a bright new original
thought with tenure.
>"Mike Marlow" <mmarlo...@windstream.net> wrote in
>news:b1fc1$4cd43248$adbc2f3c$91...@ALLTEL.NET:
>
>>> LOL!!...that brown stuff was brutal! (But did the job.)
>>
>> Ummmmmm... you're not supposed to use the TP with the brown stuff on
>> it...
>
>Dutch TP used to have a greyish-brown color, like faded brown bag paper.
>Color like that. Texture indeed close to 60-grit sandpaper.
The pink crap you get in large parts of Africa is no better (I think
it's actually french).
The brown/yellow stuff is "scottish" TP, isn't it??? (hung out to dry
and re-used)
Never notice the difference in size in a "classic" two-holer????
One hole was for the broader of beam adults, while the smaller one was
for the smaller tykes, so Mom didn't have to fish them out when they
slipped.
<snip>
> Back in the day, they just used to drag the outhouse to a new
> hole/location when one started to fill up. But when folks (and
> livestock) started to fall in to the old holes, somebody came up
> with the two hole design. By the way, I have seen three and four
> hole designs.
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Now that 10/31 has pasted, guess it is safe to post an old country boy
Halloween trick.
A pick up truck and a 300 ft length of 3/4", 3 strand rope are
required.
Back truck up to within 50-60 ft of chosen privy.
With one end of rope secured to rear bumper of truck, pick up other
end and circle target privy staying at least 50 ft away just in case
owner had moved privy a few feet to expose pit.
When back to truck, hook rope over bumper and drive away.
On a good night, bagging 30 privys is not unreasonable or so I was
told.
Lew
According to Nevada Barr, the Park Service just keeps the seat next to
the heater, and whoever needs to use it takes it out and brings it back.
>
>
The UK variety used to be incredibly slick. Not really what one looks for in
a TP ...
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Previous post it was 80. Do I hear 40?!
Back in the tenements with the lav on the landing it was mostly the
newspaper minus the racing form and pools.
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Ain't it amazing, the depths of scatological depravity to which a
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I didn't take me long to realize you get about 24hrs for any useful
information, then you can literally stop reading. :-)
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THAT, in a word, is why I love this place. A little nudge....and
ZINGGGG off the rails it goes.
.
.
.
HOW many fingers does one use to punch down a loaf of freshly raised
bread dough?
See?
I thought that was the cutting board recipe. Does that work for
everything Robatoy? I think I'll try it on my next set o' cabinets...
RP