Advice Wanted for Jointer Fence Repair/Replacement
-MIKE-
hmmmm.... I think I forgot to *gloat* about that. :-)
It works great, as far as the motor, cutters, table, and all that go.
The problem is in the adjustable fence. The parts that make it
adjustable are made of that pot-metal that they used for the longest
time. You can see in the following lousy picture that they have cracked.
http://www.mikedrums.com/fencecrack.jpg
I've been using it without the fence. But I'd like to replace these parts.
They ARE NOT available from Delta or online retailers.
My options, as I see them, are to...
a) find old ones
2) build new ones out of hardwood, or
III) find new parts/assembly that fit this
I'm not thrilled about option "a" because I'll just get parts that will
crack, sooner or later.
So shoot... what do you think I should do?
Ideas and advice, let me have 'em!
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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Robatoy
> I picked up a Delta 37-285 Jointer on craigslist for $75....
> hmmmm.... I think I forgot to *gloat* about that. :-)
>
> It works great, as far as the motor, cutters, table, and all that go.
>
> The problem is in the adjustable fence. The parts that make it
> adjustable are made of that pot-metal that they used for the longest
>
> I've been using it without the fence. But I'd like to replace these parts.
> They ARE NOT available from Delta or online retailers.
>
> My options, as I see them, are to...
> a) find old ones
> 2) build new ones out of hardwood, or
> III) find new parts/assembly that fit this
>
> I'm not thrilled about option "a" because I'll just get parts that will
> crack, sooner or later.
>
> So shoot... what do you think I should do?
> Ideas and advice, let me have 'em!
>
> --
>
> -MIKE-
>
> "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
> --Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
> --
> http://mikedrums.com
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Does the anti-kickback porkchop still work?
-MIKE-
>
> Does the anti-kickback porkchop still work?
>
I was waiting for that. :-)
And some better pics (I replaced the original, too)...
http://www.mikedrums.com/fencecrackside.jpg
http://www.mikedrums.com/fencecracktop.jpg
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-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com
joelj...@aol.com
> I picked up a Delta 37-285 Jointer ....
> .... I've been using it without the fence. ....
Yikes!
> But I'd like to replace these parts. ...
> They ARE NOT available from Delta or online retailers.
Check out:
http://www.mikestools.com/Delta-Jointers-Parts-Lists_2284.aspx
This might help -- I've gotten replacements parts from them in the
past.
Joel
Lew Hodgett
"-MIKE-" wrote:
> My options, as I see them, are to...
> a) find old ones
> 2) build new ones out of hardwood, or
> III) find new parts/assembly that fit this
Option IV:
Use broken parts as mold and lay up epoxy & knitted glass to make
replacement parts.
Lew
SonomaProducts.com
Or, consider having something made. Doesn't need to be exactly the
same parts, jsut dream up some simple clamp and angle and have it
fab'd.
On Oct 7, 4:03 pm, -MIKE- <m...@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote:
> I picked up a Delta 37-285 Jointer on craigslist for $75....
> hmmmm.... I think I forgot to *gloat* about that. :-)
>
> It works great, as far as the motor, cutters, table, and all that go.
>
> The problem is in the adjustable fence. The parts that make it
> adjustable are made of that pot-metal that they used for the longest
> time. You can see in the following lousy picture that they have cracked.http://www.mikedrums.com/fencecrack.jpg
>
> I've been using it without the fence. But I'd like to replace these parts.
> They ARE NOT available from Delta or online retailers.
>
> My options, as I see them, are to...
> a) find old ones
> 2) build new ones out of hardwood, or
> III) find new parts/assembly that fit this
>
> I'm not thrilled about option "a" because I'll just get parts that will
> crack, sooner or later.
>
> So shoot... what do you think I should do?
> Ideas and advice, let me have 'em!
>
> --
>
> -MIKE-
>
> "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
> --Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
> --
> http://mikedrums.com
> m...@mikedrumsDOT.com
HeyBub
Yeah, it looks as if they were cast. I bet an aluminum casting company could
knock the sucker out in a few minutes.
As an alternative, see if your local high school or vocational school has a
metal shop. They cast aluminum stuff (i.e., wall plaques, flagpole eagles,
etc.) all the time. I'll bet they would enjoy something different.
An even better alternative is to do your own foundry work! Here's a step by
step instruction set (there's probably dozens of similar techniques on the
web). You'll need:
2 large coffee cans
A drill with a 3/8" bit
A steel "tin can"
Some instant-light charcoal
A hair dryer with an air-only setting
Some tongs and leather gloves
A shit-load of aluminum cans
Tin snips
Molding sand (sand + kitty-litter clay)
Container for the sand
Bucket of water
Looks like this set-up can handle a bit less than a pint of molten aluminum,
but it's obvious the technique can be scaled up to handle any reasonable
amount.
Frankly, this looks like fun. There's fire and smoke and noxious fumes and
molten metal and screaming neighbors and all kinds of dangerous stuff.
http://www.instructables.com/id/Build-a-foundry-and-sand-cast-aluminum/
-MIKE-
When I said, they aren't available, I meant it. :-p
-MIKE-
You never know, that might be something I'd get into.
If I had machining tools, I'd go for aluminum.
tom
>
> Does the anti-kickback porkchop still work?
Now I've got to clean my monitor! Of course it won't work without the
fence. Tom
-MIKE-
> An even better alternative is to do your own foundry work!
>
>
Ever since I saw "World's Fasted Indian," I've been wanting to do just
that.
Maybe this is my excuse. :-)
Keith Nuttle
> I picked up a Delta 37-285 Jointer on craigslist for $75....
> hmmmm.... I think I forgot to *gloat* about that. :-)
>
> It works great, as far as the motor, cutters, table, and all that go.
>
> The problem is in the adjustable fence. The parts that make it
> adjustable are made of that pot-metal that they used for the longest
> time. You can see in the following lousy picture that they have cracked.
> http://www.mikedrums.com/fencecrack.jpg
>
> I've been using it without the fence. But I'd like to replace these parts.
> They ARE NOT available from Delta or online retailers.
>
> My options, as I see them, are to...
> a) find old ones
> 2) build new ones out of hardwood, or
> III) find new parts/assembly that fit this
>
> I'm not thrilled about option "a" because I'll just get parts that will
> crack, sooner or later.
>
> So shoot... what do you think I should do?
> Ideas and advice, let me have 'em!
>
>
This may be usefully in finding used parts. If nothing else it is an
interesting site.
I do like the mold-your-own idea.
Swingman
> HeyBub wrote:
>> An even better alternative is to do your own foundry work!
>> http://www.instructables.com/id/Build-a-foundry-and-sand-cast-aluminum/
>
> Ever since I saw "World's Fasted Indian," I've been wanting to do just
> that.
>
> Maybe this is my excuse. :-)
Once you pee on a lemon tree you don't need an excuse ...
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Michael Kenefick
machines .org and .com. A Google search may work as well.
Mike in Ohio
Lew Hodgett
> You never know, that might be something I'd get into.
Be careful, glass and resin is a slippery slope.
Like sex, once you try it.................................
Lew
Sonny
cast one, I'm sure one could be machined.
Sonny
-MIKE-
> -MIKE- wrote:
>> HeyBub wrote:
>>> An even better alternative is to do your own foundry work!
>>> http://www.instructables.com/id/Build-a-foundry-and-sand-cast-aluminum/
>>
>> Ever since I saw "World's Fasted Indian," I've been wanting to do just
>> that.
>>
>> Maybe this is my excuse. :-)
>
> Once you pee on a lemon tree you don't need an excuse ...
>
I pee everywhere else, might as well pee on a lemon tree.
CW
they won't around here.
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*snip*
> An even better alternative is to do your own foundry work! Here's a
> step by step instruction set (there's probably dozens of similar
> techniques on the web). You'll need:
*snip*
> http://www.instructables.com/id/Build-a-foundry-and-sand-cast-aluminum/
>
>
That's a cool idea! I'd be afraid to try it because of the addiction of
yet another hobby. You might be able to use a crusher dust rather than
the sand if it'll lock together better. I know a lot of sand out there
is quite round in shape and doesn't lock together well.
Puckdropper
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reason why all trees have to be grounded..." -- Bored Borg on
rec.woodworking
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HeyBub
> "HeyBub" <hey...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in
> news:GtOdnYLQqcMOr1DX...@earthlink.com:
>
> *snip*
>
>> An even better alternative is to do your own foundry work! Here's a
>> step by step instruction set (there's probably dozens of similar
>> techniques on the web). You'll need:
>
> *snip*
>
>> http://www.instructables.com/id/Build-a-foundry-and-sand-cast-aluminum/
>>
>>
>
> That's a cool idea! I'd be afraid to try it because of the addiction
> of yet another hobby. You might be able to use a crusher dust rather
> than the sand if it'll lock together better. I know a lot of sand
> out there is quite round in shape and doesn't lock together well.
>
Yeah, the right kind of sand is important for detailed work, as is the
moisture content (imagine pouring molten metal into mud!). It also needs to
be sifted through a suitable mesh. If the object is 3-dimensional, you might
need two interlocking sand-holders and pour/vent channels.
I bet you could hone your technique using lead, which melts at a much lower
temperature. I used to cast lead bullets and fishing sinkers - pretty
trivial but kinda fun.
-MIKE-
> hmmmm.... I think I forgot to *gloat* about that. :-)
>
> It works great, as far as the motor, cutters, table, and all that go.
>
> The problem is in the adjustable fence. The parts that make it
> adjustable are made of that pot-metal that they used for the longest
> time. You can see in the following lousy picture that they have cracked.
> http://www.mikedrums.com/fencecrack.jpg
>
Found a new fence assembly on ebay for 20 bucks that is used on Delta's
newer jointers and disc sanders.
With a couple mods, it works very nicely.
SonomaProducts.com
> m...@mikedrumsDOT.com
-MIKE-
With me, it's the more I google... :-)
Things have been slow, so I had time to look.
Plus, never underestimate the power of ebay's "Make an Offer." :-)
SonomaProducts.com wrote:
> You are one lucky bast$%. Congrats.
>
>>> I picked up a Delta 37-285 Jointer on craigslist for $75....
>>> hmmmm.... I think I forgot to *gloat* about that. :-)
>>> It works great, as far as the motor, cutters, table, and all that go.
>>> The problem is in the adjustable fence. The parts that make it
>>> adjustable are made of that pot-metal that they used for the longest
>>> time. You can see in the following lousy picture that they have cracked.
>>> http://www.mikedrums.com/fencecrack.jpg
>> Found a new fence assembly on ebay for 20 bucks that is used on Delta's
>> newer jointers and disc sanders.
>>
>> With a couple mods, it works very nicely.
>>
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-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com
SonomaProducts.com
coach Elway angrly responded that it wasn't talent, it was the
insistance of always running one more lap when the rest of the team
hit the showers and more hard work that anyone else.
> m...@mikedrumsDOT.com
dpb
> Yeah, in return to a comment about how "talented" his son (John) was,
> coach Elway angrly responded that it wasn't talent, it was the
> insistance of always running one more lap when the rest of the team
> hit the showers and more hard work that anyone else.
That works _up_to_a_point. I'd never made a NBA player no matter how
much I worked on my jump shot... :)
There has to be a certain amount of innate ability in any field before
anybody is going to become top-level performer. Better than just
bumbler?--sure, that's something most people can attain w/ enough effort
but w/o the physical tools to start with there is no amount of effort
that will create a world-class athlete or a Pavarotti or Einstein or...
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magic number.
dpb
> You might be wrong. Read "outliers" and learn about the 10,000 hour
> magic number.
I might be indeed....indeed, there's a finite chance by quantum
mechanics a bowling ball can tunnel through a concrete wall, too, but it
ain't very likely we're any of us going to observe it happening...
:)
--
gtyg...@gmail.com
> I picked up a Delta 37-285 Jointer on craigslist for $75....
> hmmmm.... I think I forgot to *gloat* about that. :-)
>
> It works great, as far as the motor, cutters, table, and all that go.
>
> The problem is in the adjustable fence. The parts that make it
> adjustable are made of that pot-metal that they used for the longest
> time. You can see in the following lousy picture that they have cracked.
> http://www.mikedrums.com/fencecrack.jpg
>
> They ARE NOT available from Delta or online retailers.
>
> My options, as I see them, are to...
> a) find old ones
> 2) build new ones out of hardwood, or
> III) find new parts/assembly that fit this
>
> I'm not thrilled about option "a" because I'll just get parts that will
> crack, sooner or later.
>
> So shoot... what do you think I should do?
> Ideas and advice, let me have 'em!
>
>
>
> -MIKE-
>
> "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
> --Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
> --
> http://mikedrums.com
Ricksastar
You have pictures?
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