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HeyBub
Feb 23, 2012, 8:06:24 AM2/23/12
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I recently grabbed an ordinary red shop rag to wipe down a bathtub with
Muriatic acid.
The rag turned blue! (really an intense purple)
When the job was finished and I rinsed the rag, it turned back red!
Do I have a Litmus rag? Just out of curiosity, anybody know what went on?
Muriatic acid.
The rag turned blue! (really an intense purple)
When the job was finished and I rinsed the rag, it turned back red!
Do I have a Litmus rag? Just out of curiosity, anybody know what went on?
Mike Marlow
Feb 23, 2012, 8:18:31 AM2/23/12
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HeyBub wrote:
> I recently grabbed an ordinary red shop rag to wipe down a bathtub
> with Muriatic acid.
>
Dude - that's one hell of a cleanliness fetish you have there! Most people
> I recently grabbed an ordinary red shop rag to wipe down a bathtub
> with Muriatic acid.
>
would be happy with a quick swipe with a household cleaner to get the ring
out.
> The rag turned blue! (really an intense purple)
>
> When the job was finished and I rinsed the rag, it turned back red!
>
> Do I have a Litmus rag? Just out of curiosity, anybody know what went
> on?
--
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Doug Miller
Feb 23, 2012, 8:28:02 AM2/23/12
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"HeyBub" <hey...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in
news:Rf2dnZLOu-ZMpNvS...@earthlink.com:
Same principle -- a dye that changes color depending on acidity -- but not litmus. (Litmus is red in
acidic solutions, blue in basic.) Various plant dyes could behave this way; Google "pH indicator" for
more information.
news:Rf2dnZLOu-ZMpNvS...@earthlink.com:
acidic solutions, blue in basic.) Various plant dyes could behave this way; Google "pH indicator" for
more information.
Leon
Feb 23, 2012, 8:43:15 AM2/23/12
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used in automotive shops. If you get battery acid on the rag you don't
want to use that rag to wipe a smudge off of the floor board carpet or
seats.
Leon
Feb 23, 2012, 8:51:35 AM2/23/12
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ALSO automotive shops typically use a uniform service to handle the
clothing and rag needs in the shop. All of these items are rented and a
fee is paid to clean weekly. When the dirty rags are collected to be
cleaned they are excluded from the group if nay have the blue spots on
them and the shop is billed fro a replacement rag. Tossing a red rag
with a blue spot on it in to a group of red rags will contaminate the
other rags and they too will show blue spots. SO, automotive shops
typically throw away a red rag with blue spots on it.
Gerald Ross
Feb 23, 2012, 10:31:45 AM2/23/12
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listing
number of shop rags used and amount of "kitty litter" used on the
floor. Sounded
like a hospital bill. Maybe they ARE car doctors.
--
Gerald Ross
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Swingman
Feb 23, 2012, 10:34:04 AM2/23/12
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On 2/23/2012 7:51 AM, Leon wrote:
> clothing and rag needs in the shop. All of these items are rented and a
> fee is paid to clean weekly. When the dirty rags are collected to be
> cleaned they are excluded from the group if nay have the blue spots on
> them and the shop is billed fro a replacement rag. Tossing a red rag
> with a blue spot on it in to a group of red rags will contaminate the
> other rags and they too will show blue spots. SO, automotive shops
> typically throw away a red rag with blue spots on it.
Damn ... can still learn something new everyday.
> clothing and rag needs in the shop. All of these items are rented and a
> fee is paid to clean weekly. When the dirty rags are collected to be
> cleaned they are excluded from the group if nay have the blue spots on
> them and the shop is billed fro a replacement rag. Tossing a red rag
> with a blue spot on it in to a group of red rags will contaminate the
> other rags and they too will show blue spots. SO, automotive shops
> typically throw away a red rag with blue spots on it.
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Mike Marlow
Feb 23, 2012, 10:43:55 AM2/23/12
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Gerald Ross wrote:
>
> My brother just had some work done on his car. The bill was detailed,
> listing
> number of shop rags used and amount of "kitty litter" used on the
> floor. Sounded
> like a hospital bill. Maybe they ARE car doctors.
My best friend is an insurance adjuster - or appraiser - or something like
>
> My brother just had some work done on his car. The bill was detailed,
> listing
> number of shop rags used and amount of "kitty litter" used on the
> floor. Sounded
> like a hospital bill. Maybe they ARE car doctors.
that. His job is to make sure the shops are doing the right level of work
at the right price. Seems it is becoming more common to detail materials
useage to this level. Kind of silly on one hand, but that's what's
happening. That kind of thing used to fall under "overhead". Must be not
so much now.
--
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mmarlo...@windstream.net
Larry Jaques
Feb 23, 2012, 10:46:20 AM2/23/12
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contaminated with acid, usually battery acid. It helps the mechanic
keep the acid from being passed around to other items. If it turns
blue, toss it in the laundry bin.
--
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based on the labors of other men, living and dead, and that
I must exert myself in order to give in the same measure as
I have received and am still receiving.
-- Albert Einstein
Larry Jaques
Feb 23, 2012, 10:56:47 AM2/23/12
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On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:31:45 -0500, Gerald Ross <gw...@comsouth.net>
wrote:
Labor rates are over $100/hr now, sometimes as much as $150/hr.
Everyone's acting like a doctor now. My oral surgeon got $915 for 14
minutes of work, so that's $3,921.43/hr. That's $157k on a good week,
or $7,843,860 for a full year of services. <thud>
Chiropractors and Veterinarians are easily clearing half a mil a year
these days, too.
wrote:
Everyone's acting like a doctor now. My oral surgeon got $915 for 14
minutes of work, so that's $3,921.43/hr. That's $157k on a good week,
or $7,843,860 for a full year of services. <thud>
Chiropractors and Veterinarians are easily clearing half a mil a year
these days, too.
Steve Turner
Feb 23, 2012, 1:39:31 PM2/23/12
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On 02/23/2012 09:34 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 2/23/2012 7:51 AM, Leon wrote:
>
>> clothing and rag needs in the shop. All of these items are rented and a
>> fee is paid to clean weekly. When the dirty rags are collected to be
>> cleaned they are excluded from the group if nay have the blue spots on
>> them and the shop is billed fro a replacement rag. Tossing a red rag
>> with a blue spot on it in to a group of red rags will contaminate the
>> other rags and they too will show blue spots. SO, automotive shops
>> typically throw away a red rag with blue spots on it.
>
> Damn ... can still learn something new everyday.
Isn't that something? When I was 18 I thought I knew it all, but here
> On 2/23/2012 7:51 AM, Leon wrote:
>
>> clothing and rag needs in the shop. All of these items are rented and a
>> fee is paid to clean weekly. When the dirty rags are collected to be
>> cleaned they are excluded from the group if nay have the blue spots on
>> them and the shop is billed fro a replacement rag. Tossing a red rag
>> with a blue spot on it in to a group of red rags will contaminate the
>> other rags and they too will show blue spots. SO, automotive shops
>> typically throw away a red rag with blue spots on it.
>
> Damn ... can still learn something new everyday.
it is 30+ years later and I'm still being humbled by how little I
actually DO know. I can't remember exactly when I finally realized I
wasn't as smart as I thought I was...
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Swingman
Feb 23, 2012, 1:44:55 PM2/23/12
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On 2/23/2012 12:39 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
> On 02/23/2012 09:34 AM, Swingman wrote:
>> Damn ... can still learn something new everyday.
>
> Isn't that something? When I was 18 I thought I knew it all, but here it
> is 30+ years later and I'm still being humbled by how little I actually
> DO know. I can't remember exactly when I finally realized I wasn't as
> smart as I thought I was...
Had no question about that, myself. My Dad, being not too overly
> On 02/23/2012 09:34 AM, Swingman wrote:
>> Damn ... can still learn something new everyday.
>
> Isn't that something? When I was 18 I thought I knew it all, but here it
> is 30+ years later and I'm still being humbled by how little I actually
> DO know. I can't remember exactly when I finally realized I wasn't as
> smart as I thought I was...
concerned with what is known today as "self esteem", reminded me of that
on a daily basis! :)
Leon
Feb 23, 2012, 1:47:38 PM2/23/12
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$3~$4 more per labor hour.
Leon
Feb 23, 2012, 1:50:58 PM2/23/12
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from having to absorb all of the sales tax on the service provided by
the cleaning service. Itemizing allows for the tax to be collected from
the customer.
Leon
Feb 23, 2012, 1:54:58 PM2/23/12
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On 2/23/2012 9:46 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:18:31 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
> <mmarlo...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
>> HeyBub wrote:
>>
>>> I recently grabbed an ordinary red shop rag to wipe down a bathtub
>>> with Muriatic acid.
>>>
>>
>> Dude - that's one hell of a cleanliness fetish you have there! Most people
>> would be happy with a quick swipe with a household cleaner to get the ring
>> out.
>>
>>> The rag turned blue! (really an intense purple)
>>>
>>> When the job was finished and I rinsed the rag, it turned back red!
>>>
>>> Do I have a Litmus rag? Just out of curiosity, anybody know what went
>>> on?
>>
>> No clue. But - Pity the person that climbs into that bathtub next...
>
> Yes, shop rags are treated to show you when they've become
> contaminated with acid, usually battery acid. It helps the mechanic
> keep the acid from being passed around to other items. If it turns
> blue, toss it in the laundry bin.
Really? The shop management let the mechanics mix acid contaminated
> On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:18:31 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
> <mmarlo...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
>> HeyBub wrote:
>>
>>> I recently grabbed an ordinary red shop rag to wipe down a bathtub
>>> with Muriatic acid.
>>>
>>
>> Dude - that's one hell of a cleanliness fetish you have there! Most people
>> would be happy with a quick swipe with a household cleaner to get the ring
>> out.
>>
>>> The rag turned blue! (really an intense purple)
>>>
>>> When the job was finished and I rinsed the rag, it turned back red!
>>>
>>> Do I have a Litmus rag? Just out of curiosity, anybody know what went
>>> on?
>>
>> No clue. But - Pity the person that climbs into that bathtub next...
>
> Yes, shop rags are treated to show you when they've become
> contaminated with acid, usually battery acid. It helps the mechanic
> keep the acid from being passed around to other items. If it turns
> blue, toss it in the laundry bin.
rags with soiled rags? It would be less expensive to throw a rag with
blue witness spots away.
Swingman
Feb 23, 2012, 2:09:34 PM2/23/12
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using a calculated rate; and a "direct cost", as when itemized above, is
associated with a specific job/project.
Hell, I don't know! ... ask that CPA son (or Dad) of your's. :)
Scott Lurndal
Feb 23, 2012, 2:22:40 PM2/23/12
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Steve Turner <bbqb...@swtacobell.net> writes:
>On 02/23/2012 09:34 AM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 2/23/2012 7:51 AM, Leon wrote:
>>
>>> clothing and rag needs in the shop. All of these items are rented and a
>>> fee is paid to clean weekly. When the dirty rags are collected to be
>>> cleaned they are excluded from the group if nay have the blue spots on
>>> them and the shop is billed fro a replacement rag. Tossing a red rag
>>> with a blue spot on it in to a group of red rags will contaminate the
>>> other rags and they too will show blue spots. SO, automotive shops
>>> typically throw away a red rag with blue spots on it.
>>
>> Damn ... can still learn something new everyday.
>
>Isn't that something? When I was 18 I thought I knew it all, but here
>it is 30+ years later and I'm still being humbled by how little I
>actually DO know. I can't remember exactly when I finally realized I
>wasn't as smart as I thought I was...
It's true that the more one learns, the less one knows.
>On 02/23/2012 09:34 AM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 2/23/2012 7:51 AM, Leon wrote:
>>
>>> clothing and rag needs in the shop. All of these items are rented and a
>>> fee is paid to clean weekly. When the dirty rags are collected to be
>>> cleaned they are excluded from the group if nay have the blue spots on
>>> them and the shop is billed fro a replacement rag. Tossing a red rag
>>> with a blue spot on it in to a group of red rags will contaminate the
>>> other rags and they too will show blue spots. SO, automotive shops
>>> typically throw away a red rag with blue spots on it.
>>
>> Damn ... can still learn something new everyday.
>
>Isn't that something? When I was 18 I thought I knew it all, but here
>it is 30+ years later and I'm still being humbled by how little I
>actually DO know. I can't remember exactly when I finally realized I
>wasn't as smart as I thought I was...
scott
Steve Turner
Feb 23, 2012, 2:49:14 PM2/23/12
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HHSupply
Feb 23, 2012, 3:01:57 PM2/23/12
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Looking over a bill a few years ago for truck under body work. Along with clock
time and parts. There was a line item for: Hydraulic Lift Usage Fee ... $20.-
time and parts. There was a line item for: Hydraulic Lift Usage Fee ... $20.-
Lew Hodgett
Feb 23, 2012, 4:08:06 PM2/23/12
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"Scott Lurndal" wrote:
> It's true that the more one learns, the less one knows.
The further I go, the behinder I get.
Lew
Larry Jaques
Feb 23, 2012, 4:45:05 PM2/23/12
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On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:44:55 -0600, Swingman <k...@nospam.com> wrote:
>On 2/23/2012 12:39 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
>> On 02/23/2012 09:34 AM, Swingman wrote:
>
>>> Damn ... can still learn something new everyday.
>>
>> Isn't that something? When I was 18 I thought I knew it all, but here it
>> is 30+ years later and I'm still being humbled by how little I actually
>> DO know. I can't remember exactly when I finally realized I wasn't as
>> smart as I thought I was...
>
>Had no question about that, myself. My Dad, being not too overly
>concerned with what is known today as "self esteem", reminded me of that
>on a daily basis! :)
One of my fave signs was about teens knowing everything.
>On 2/23/2012 12:39 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
>> On 02/23/2012 09:34 AM, Swingman wrote:
>
>>> Damn ... can still learn something new everyday.
>>
>> Isn't that something? When I was 18 I thought I knew it all, but here it
>> is 30+ years later and I'm still being humbled by how little I actually
>> DO know. I can't remember exactly when I finally realized I wasn't as
>> smart as I thought I was...
>
>Had no question about that, myself. My Dad, being not too overly
>concerned with what is known today as "self esteem", reminded me of that
>on a daily basis! :)
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Larry Jaques
Feb 23, 2012, 4:48:19 PM2/23/12
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On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:54:58 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
Yes, unless it was solid blue, it went in with the others at every
shop I worked for for about 15 years, per the laundry company's
request.
Machinist's rags, with metal shavings/lathe turnings on them went in a
separate can, though. Ever wipe your face with one of those? DAMN,
it hurts.
wrote:
shop I worked for for about 15 years, per the laundry company's
request.
Machinist's rags, with metal shavings/lathe turnings on them went in a
separate can, though. Ever wipe your face with one of those? DAMN,
it hurts.
HeyBub
Feb 23, 2012, 9:41:56 PM2/23/12
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What made this episode more confusing was that the rag had just come out of
(my) washing machine!
Anyway, the mystery is now solved. My appreciation to all who contributed.
Well done, folks.
HeyBub
Feb 23, 2012, 9:45:45 PM2/23/12
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Mike Marlow wrote:
> HeyBub wrote:
>
>> I recently grabbed an ordinary red shop rag to wipe down a bathtub
>> with Muriatic acid.
>>
>
> Dude - that's one hell of a cleanliness fetish you have there! Most
> people would be happy with a quick swipe with a household cleaner to
> get the ring out.
>
It wasn't cleanliness that was the motivating factor; it was trying to find
> HeyBub wrote:
>
>> I recently grabbed an ordinary red shop rag to wipe down a bathtub
>> with Muriatic acid.
>>
>
> Dude - that's one hell of a cleanliness fetish you have there! Most
> people would be happy with a quick swipe with a household cleaner to
> get the ring out.
>
the best way to remove caked-on crud. Had the acid not worked, my backup
plan was a single-edged razor blade.
I now have a female living with me and she's absolutely anal about things
being tidy. She even insists on washing coffee cups between uses.
Why, I have no idea.
Mike Marlow
Feb 23, 2012, 10:15:12 PM2/23/12
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Steve Turner wrote:
>
> Isn't that something? When I was 18 I thought I knew it all, but here
> it is 30+ years later and I'm still being humbled by how little I
> actually DO know. I can't remember exactly when I finally realized I
> wasn't as smart as I thought I was...
It only gets worse with age. You find out that the more you know the more
>
> Isn't that something? When I was 18 I thought I knew it all, but here
> it is 30+ years later and I'm still being humbled by how little I
> actually DO know. I can't remember exactly when I finally realized I
> wasn't as smart as I thought I was...
you don't know...
--
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mmarlo...@windstream.net
Mike Marlow
Feb 23, 2012, 10:20:05 PM2/23/12
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HeyBub wrote:
>
> I now have a female living with me and she's absolutely anal about
> things being tidy. She even insists on washing coffee cups between
> uses.
What the??? Something's wrong with this woman!
>
> I now have a female living with me and she's absolutely anal about
> things being tidy. She even insists on washing coffee cups between
> uses.
--
-Mike-
mmarlo...@windstream.net
Leon
Feb 24, 2012, 7:22:23 AM2/24/12
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replacement rags, right?
Larry Jaques
Feb 24, 2012, 9:54:46 AM2/24/12
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:22:23 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
<g> No, it was a service. We rented them. If it were a problem,
they'd request that we keep them separate and they'd make us pay for
the bluies.
they'd request that we keep them separate and they'd make us pay for
the bluies.
Leon
Feb 24, 2012, 12:02:07 PM2/24/12
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the sign that the rags will have holes in them when they are washed.
The price of replacement rags is added to the bill. Mechanics don't pay
the bills. Soo in my shop the mechanics were instructed to throw away
the rags with blue spots in a special trash bin, so as not to
contaminate those in the laundry hamper. My shop foreman and the
uniform service guy pulled and counted every rag to be sure there were
no blue spots on them.
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