Thanks in advance.
I posted a piece a couple of weeks ago about receiving a Unifence with a
bowed fence. The replacement fence came in last week as predicted by
Tool Crib. It is as flat as I can measure it and performing superbly.
For the last ten years I have used a Unifence at a neighbors and though
I researched other fences my experience in that time won through. I
highly recommend the Unifence.
just a little note
blair
> I've finally had it with the original fence I got with my Delta
> Contractor's 10" TS. I was looking at the Biesmeyer (sp?) but I really
> like the features of the Delta Unifence, particularly the lack of need to
> drill new holes in my TS, the lack of mounting hardware on the back of the
> saw and the extruded fence. Any recommendations or expenience, I haven't
> written the check yet (and I really didn't want to spend $600-for the
> fence, wood table and legs) so I'd appreciate any advise anyone could give
> me. BTW I don't want to buy another fence in the foreseeable future and
> I'll be using the fence in a "hoping to someday be a professional
> wordworker" beginning shop. Please post to this group or email me at
> jpe...@ns.net
>
> Thanks in advance.
Check out the latest issue of Fine Woodworking (guy running a Dewalt
router on the cover). They test-drove a new fence for the Delta. Though
they had a bit of trouble with the unit as it came, the overall review was
very positive. It's toward the back of the book where the new product
stuff usually is.
--
paul royko
Toronto, Canada
Life needs a Command-Z key.
>I've finally had it with the original fence I got with my Delta
>Contractor's 10" TS. I was looking at the Biesmeyer (sp?) but I really
>like the features of the Delta Unifence, particularly the lack of need to
>drill new holes in my TS, the lack of mounting hardware on the back of the
>saw and the extruded fence. Any recommendations or expenience, I haven't
>written the check yet (and I really didn't want to spend $600-for the
>fence, wood table and legs) so I'd appreciate any advise anyone could give
>me. BTW I don't want to buy another fence in the foreseeable future and
>I'll be using the fence in a "hoping to someday be a professional
>wordworker" beginning shop. Please post to this group or email me at
>jpe...@ns.net
>Thanks in advance.
I Have A delta Unisaw with the 52" fence and it works very well , It
>John
Consider the Vega - a hell of a lot less money - and the same accuracy.
I love mine. CMR
All these 'board buddies' references lately make me wonder who makes them.
The name is just too similar to another term used to describe two males who
really like each other. I apologize in advance to anyone offended, but it
reminds me every time....
Rich
Just say 'Not that there's anything wrong with that!'
I've got the same saw and the Unifence - the fence is absoutely superb.
It is perfectly accurate, was easy to install - was perfectly square the
moment I put it on the table, all in all I'm very pleased with the
fence. I now just wish my saw had "UniSaw" written on it to match the
fence...
What are your experiences with using hold downs when ripping, especially
on this style of fence that is wide and lifts at the back?
Do you use an auxiliary wood (or other material) fence with this style
of fence? How do you install it (drill and bolt through the aluminum
fence)?
Thanks,
Jim Baker
Andrew:
I have just the opposite opinion. Isn't life wonderful? Anyway, I've had
my 32" Unifence for 4 years and have used the heck out of it. I drilled
3 1/2" holes along the high side to secure an aux. wood fence for dado and
molding head operations with no discernable loss of tolerances. I also
a hold-down device from Letchung (hope I spelled that right) and it clamps
right to the high side with no problem. I also love having both a high
side and a low side for cutting ply and making small rip cuts. The fence
is easy (takes about 1 minute) to move to the left side of the blade for
some molding operations.
Did I mention I love this fence???
Anyway, much reguards, RH
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Bill
>
Hi,
I love my Unifence, and I have used the Bessy fence as well. Is the big
one really $600? Wow. I think the 32" is around $250, but I got mine
as part of a package deal with my CS.
Anyway.
Pro: One of the features of the Unifence I use most often is its
ability to quickly and easily convert from a rip fence to a cross-cut
fence which does not extend as far as the blade. Undo two screws (with
handles on them, no tools), slide the fence back, tighten, and you're
up, exactly at whatever measurement you choose. On the Bessy, to
crosscut you have to clamp a block to the fence and remember to add the
width of the block to your measurement when you set the fence. I
usually forgot to do this, at least once.
Pro: Easy on, easy off, easy slide. The Bessy moved quite nicely on the
table, but I remember it being heavier and bulkier than the Unifence,
and harder to store when it's not on the table.
Pro: The Unifence can flip sideways so you can rip thin materials
without the thin materials sliding under the fence. I have never used
this feature, but I suppose it's nice that it's there.
Con: It is harder to clamp things and screw things to the Unifence than
it is to the Bessy fence (and those like it). Is it impossible? No.
Is it harder? Yes. The Bessemeier fence has a flat surface facing the
blade, and a flat surface on the other side of the blade, and the
fence's width is constant both vertically and horizontally. If you do a
lot of work where you have to clamp or screw fixtures to your fence, or
ride fixtures over the top of it, you might consider one of the others.
Con: The little piece of plastic with the line on it which indicates
where the fence is located is hard to read. It has a plastic
"magnifying" area, but the magnifying area is too small to read enough
of the scale to figure out exactly which /32 you're looking at, but too
big to get that information from the rest of the clear, flat parts of
the plastic. I have heard you can get this replaced by Delta, but I
haven't done it yet.
Good luck. Hope this helps.
jc
The only difficulties I had were with a poorly fitting hardware package
that needed primary fasteners to be replaced and a measuring tape that
does not fare well in cold temperatures. The tape tends to lift and once
sawdust enters under the tape you accuracy is toast.
Good luck.
I keep the allen wrench in it....I think the manual mentions it.
later, Bill
Yup, it's for the allen wrenches. But unless you replace the cheesy
little flexible magnets Delta sorta glues in there, the wrenches'll
fall out.
Gary
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Gary Snelson Arcadia, California
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: Check out the latest issue of Fine Woodworking (guy running a Dewalt
: router on the cover). They test-drove a new fence for the Delta. Though
: they had a bit of trouble with the unit as it came, the overall review was
: very positive. It's toward the back of the book where the new product
: stuff usually is.
Actually, the fence is not "for the Delta". It is from Foxpro, I believe,
and it is just another aftermarket fence, made for any saw.
The author of the article did install it on a Unisaw--but with quite a bit
of trouble.
This review amazed me, because it said it was a good fence at $275.00.
As far as I could tell, this fence had NO SCALE. A serious flaw making
it vastly inferior to all the other aftermarket fences on the market.
I have wanted to replace my toggle switch for some time, as I have
had probems with the switch not turning off the saw and the switch is not
in the best of positions.
I noticed that to the right of the blade and on the under side of
the Unifence rail, there is a threaded hole. The hole is the same thread
as that used for conduit and junction boxes. I purchased a metal box and
broke out one off the knock out holes and screwed it tight to the
underside of the Unifence rail. Now with the appropriate rated switch
and wired, grounded, and sealed from sawdust, into the original toggle
switch box; it works great. The switch is now convenient, safer to
operate (from the right hand side) and no more "turn the saw off and it
keeps on running". I just wanted to let those know who may not of
noticed this threaded hole and how it makes switch attachment much
easier. Good Luck,
Bill
The Password is "RESPECT"
I installed a set of board buddies on my Unifence by fabricating a set
of alum. brackets (I have a small milling machine.) to mount the base
plates to. I find they work very well for ripping when I have no one to
assist with a cut. They seem to hold the board down/back against the
fence and were well worth the effort to install. (I wish the manuf. had
included mounting brackets tho) I use a qwik clamp on the back end of
the fence to hold it down after everything is setup.
One thing I wish I could find tho is a much longer fence than the one
that came with the saw, anyone heard of one about 6' or better? (a
longer extrusion like the original.)
Thanks
Mike
I put a square on 3 other Mitre Saws including a Ryobi and only the $600
job was the table flush with the base.
Is my observation unusual? How am I supposed to get an accurate cut if the
parts are not flush?
Thanks,
Dan
L-shaped well?
+-------+
| |
| |
| |
|____+_______+
^
+--- You mean this part?
This part is for cutting laminates, where the edge of the laminate may be
neither parallel to the edge of the workpiece, nor straight. You adjust
the fence to be a bit off the table so that the laminate can slide under
the fence and the | part to the left, above, rides on the edge of the
workpiece, which hopefully will be straight. DO NOT put anything in there
especially something like an allen wrench which could bounce into the path
of the blade and and up embedded in your face.
If this isn't what you mean then what?
--Al Amaral--
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I had the same problem with the switch on my Delta Contractors saw and
solved
it in a similar way. I remember reading about a couple other people who
had
switch failures a year or so ago and I'm curious about how many others
have
had the switch on the Delta CS fail.
Gary
I bought the Delta. Whereas the switch didn't fail, I hated the small
size and location. Late last summer when I had an electrician add some
circuits to my workshop he said that he had a Delta too and liked
everything about it except the switch.
I called Delta's 800 parts number and ordered the "safety switch" which,
according to the rep with whom I spoke, is now standard on the cs. It
costs $48, is a huge improvement, and is very easy to install. I'm not
getting a commission, but for those who are interested the part number
is 422396260003 and the telephone number is 800-233-7278.
The improved switch makes the saw much more enjoyable to use and because
of its size and location is much safer.
Regards,
ms
No, I meant the well on the top of the body, or guide or whatever the
blue triangular thing is called (not the fence itself). Several others
have indicated that it is indeed for holding an allen wrench, and
mentioned a magnet liner that is glued in there to hold the wrench(es)
in place (that doesn't work to well)... no such magnet in mine. Hmmm..
maybe a model change?
jc
Ron
My 2 Cents,
Jonathan,
I am guessing that you purchased your fence used with no manuals. If
you take the time to R.Y.F.M. (Read Your F... Manual) almost every
picture in the manual shows an allen wrench stored in it. To be more
exact Page 14 Paragraph ! Figures 43 and 44 titled WRENCH STORAGE, shows
the locations of 2 allen wrenches being stored. One wrench adusts the
fence to the blade, the other adjusts the cursor.
Next week....
The definition of an "Allen Wrench."
G.K.(Grant) Engelstad
Engelstad Enterprises
Custom Woodworking
Excerpts from netnews.rec.woodworking: 21-Nov-96 Re: Delta Unifence
Experience by "G.K. Engelstad"@sk.symp
>
> My 2 Cents,
>
> Jonathan,
>
> I am guessing that you purchased your fence used with no manuals. If
> you take the time to R.Y.F.M. (Read Your F... Manual) almost every
> picture in the manual shows an allen wrench stored in it. To be more
> exact Page 14 Paragraph ! Figures 43 and 44 titled WRENCH STORAGE, shows
> the locations of 2 allen wrenches being stored. One wrench adusts the
> fence to the blade, the other adjusts the cursor.
>
> Next week....
>
> The definition of an "Allen Wrench."
>
> G.K.(Grant) Engelstad
> Engelstad Enterprises
> Custom Woodworking
Actually, I purchased it new, and read every last page of the manual.
None of the pictures show any wrenches stored in the well, and there are
no sections or figures that refer to this either, not on p.14 or
anywhere else. My manual is dated 1-10-96. When is yours dated? I am
now pretty well convinced that, as I guessed in my previous post, there
has been a model change. This is further suggested by the fact that the
adjustment screws for the fence are either flat or phillips head screws.
jc
P.S. - Grant, you might consider recalibrating the default levels of
respect you hold (or at least show) for your colleagues out here... your
2 cents felt pretty cheap to me.
> I am guessing that you purchased your fence used with no manuals. If
>you take the time to R.Y.F.M. (Read Your F... Manual) almost every
>picture in the manual shows an allen wrench stored in it. To be more
>exact Page 14 Paragraph ! Figures 43 and 44 titled WRENCH STORAGE, shows
>the locations of 2 allen wrenches being stored. One wrench adusts the
>fence to the blade, the other adjusts the cursor.
>
>Next week....
>
> The definition of an "Allen Wrench."
>
>G.K.(Grant) Engelstad
>Engelstad Enterprises
>Custom Woodworking
Oh! My hero! Why Mr. Grant - you know all about everything! Thank you
soooo much for you valuable contribution to the group. CMR
: L-shaped well?
: +-------+
: | |
: | |
: | |
: |____+_______+
: ^
: +--- You mean this part?
: This part is for cutting laminates, where the edge of the laminate may be
: neither parallel to the edge of the workpiece, nor straight. You adjust
: the fence to be a bit off the table so that the laminate can slide under
: the fence and the | part to the left, above, rides on the edge of the
: workpiece, which hopefully will be straight.
The low fence is meant to be short enough so that the laminate can
go OVER the fence lip. There is no need to raise the fence up.
_____
laminate | |
-------------------- \ |
STOCK | +-+ | | Fence
| | |_____/ |
---------------+ +------------+
This way you can trim your stock to approximate size, glue on the
laminate, and then use the original edge to trim off the laminate
on the opposite edge.
It is also very useful for holding onto thin, narrow stock when
cutting on the tablesaw. You can get your hands down closer to the
work. I mostly use the fence in this position. Note that the
reticle has 2 hairlines so you can read directly from the scale with
the fence in either position.