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Keith Nuttle
Nov 12, 2012, 4:55:05 PM11/12/12
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We are putting a 41" X 33" mirror in the tv hole above our fire place.
The Mirror is 1/4" thick. The TV hole is standard framing 2x4 with
header. The mirror would fit into the hole in the existing framing with
the trim that was applied for the TV hole.
The plan was to put a 1/2 inch sheet of plywood as a backer board for
the mirror. The mirror and the backer board would be held against 1X2
frame attached to the trim of the existing TV hole.
Today I went to get the wood to cut the 41X33 backer board from.
I realized that even 3/4 plywood will warp not a good thing if the
mirror is masticed to it.
What would you recomend for a backer board?
I have talked to several people with ideas all over the board. from
sheet rock to no backer.
The Mirror is 1/4" thick. The TV hole is standard framing 2x4 with
header. The mirror would fit into the hole in the existing framing with
the trim that was applied for the TV hole.
The plan was to put a 1/2 inch sheet of plywood as a backer board for
the mirror. The mirror and the backer board would be held against 1X2
frame attached to the trim of the existing TV hole.
Today I went to get the wood to cut the 41X33 backer board from.
I realized that even 3/4 plywood will warp not a good thing if the
mirror is masticed to it.
What would you recomend for a backer board?
I have talked to several people with ideas all over the board. from
sheet rock to no backer.
SonomaProducts.com
Nov 12, 2012, 5:19:29 PM11/12/12
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On Monday, November 12, 2012 1:55:08 PM UTC-8, keith_...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> We are putting a 41" X 33" mirror in the tv hole above our fire place. The Mirror is 1/4" thick. The TV hole is standard framing 2x4 with header. The mirror would fit into the hole in the existing framing with the trim that was applied for the TV hole. The plan was to put a 1/2 inch sheet of plywood as a backer board for the mirror. The mirror and the backer board would be held against 1X2 frame attached to the trim of the existing TV hole. Today I went to get the wood to cut the 41X33 backer board from. I realized that even 3/4 plywood will warp not a good thing if the mirror is masticed to it. What would you recomend for a backer board? I have talked to several people with ideas all over the board. from sheet rock to no backer.
MDF
> We are putting a 41" X 33" mirror in the tv hole above our fire place. The Mirror is 1/4" thick. The TV hole is standard framing 2x4 with header. The mirror would fit into the hole in the existing framing with the trim that was applied for the TV hole. The plan was to put a 1/2 inch sheet of plywood as a backer board for the mirror. The mirror and the backer board would be held against 1X2 frame attached to the trim of the existing TV hole. Today I went to get the wood to cut the 41X33 backer board from. I realized that even 3/4 plywood will warp not a good thing if the mirror is masticed to it. What would you recomend for a backer board? I have talked to several people with ideas all over the board. from sheet rock to no backer.
chaniarts
Nov 12, 2012, 5:33:40 PM11/12/12
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Larry Jaques
Nov 12, 2012, 5:38:03 PM11/12/12
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:55:05 -0500, Keith Nuttle
<Keith_...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>We are putting a 41" X 33" mirror in the tv hole above our fire place.
>The Mirror is 1/4" thick. The TV hole is standard framing 2x4 with
>header. The mirror would fit into the hole in the existing framing with
>the trim that was applied for the TV hole.
>
>The plan was to put a 1/2 inch sheet of plywood as a backer board for
>the mirror. The mirror and the backer board would be held against 1X2
>frame attached to the trim of the existing TV hole.
>
>Today I went to get the wood to cut the 41X33 backer board from.
>
>I realized that even 3/4 plywood will warp not a good thing if the
>mirror is masticed to it.
It shouldn't warp in the dry inside air, and it shouldn't get hot if
<Keith_...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>We are putting a 41" X 33" mirror in the tv hole above our fire place.
>The Mirror is 1/4" thick. The TV hole is standard framing 2x4 with
>header. The mirror would fit into the hole in the existing framing with
>the trim that was applied for the TV hole.
>
>The plan was to put a 1/2 inch sheet of plywood as a backer board for
>the mirror. The mirror and the backer board would be held against 1X2
>frame attached to the trim of the existing TV hole.
>
>Today I went to get the wood to cut the 41X33 backer board from.
>
>I realized that even 3/4 plywood will warp not a good thing if the
>mirror is masticed to it.
you use your fireplace correctly (flue open). DAMHIKT
>What would you recomend for a backer board?
>
>I have talked to several people with ideas all over the board. from
>sheet rock to no backer.
though. Are you going to make a hidden compartment, too?
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-MIKE-
Nov 12, 2012, 5:42:20 PM11/12/12
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On 11/12/12 4:38 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> MDF, aka Termite Barf. It's more stable. DO seal all faces and edges,
> though.
>
Why?
> MDF, aka Termite Barf. It's more stable. DO seal all faces and edges,
> though.
>
I mean, I know why, but it's overkill.
I've had mdf scraps sitting in my garage and shed for years and they
look like the day I bought it, minus the mouse turns and spider webs.
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Leon
Nov 12, 2012, 11:20:51 PM11/12/12
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dadiOH
Nov 13, 2012, 7:47:13 AM11/13/12
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backing? Hanging mirrors don't have them, not substantial ones at least.
If you just gotta have something behind it, sheetrock, MDF, particle board,
OSB, plywood would all work. My preference would be sheetrock.
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Mike Marlow
Nov 13, 2012, 8:49:26 AM11/13/12
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dadiOH wrote:
>
> As long as the trim retains the morror in its niche, why bother with a
> backing? Hanging mirrors don't have them, not substantial ones at
> least. If you just gotta have something behind it, sheetrock, MDF,
> particle board, OSB, plywood would all work. My preference would be
> sheetrock.
Even 1/4" plywood would be sufficient. The mirror does not need anything
>
> As long as the trim retains the morror in its niche, why bother with a
> backing? Hanging mirrors don't have them, not substantial ones at
> least. If you just gotta have something behind it, sheetrock, MDF,
> particle board, OSB, plywood would all work. My preference would be
> sheetrock.
for rigidty, backings just protect against objects hitting the glass from
behind - which is not a problem in this application. Keith - go look at the
backings found on dressers and like objects with large mirrors. Look at
those cheap mirrors that you hang on bedroom doors - cardboard backing -
and...those are really thin, cheap mirrors.
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Keith Nuttle
Nov 13, 2012, 9:57:01 AM11/13/12
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mirror installed tomorrow, this should be my last post with questions.
I have been working on this project for some time. Yes I have talked
with the man at the place that is cutting the mirror for me. But you
know how it is, you are doing something you want nice that you have
never done before. You get it all straight on what you are going to do
and then something comes up that makes you question what you decided.
Last item was the warped 1/2 plywood. I am going to go with MDF or
similar composite wood. I had thought about sheet rock but because
there will only be the 1X2 around the edges of the hole, I thought that
over time the sheet rock edges would deteriorate and the mirror would
become loose.
Yes I know there is stuff cut for this purpose but I have a lot of 1X2 scrap
Larry Jaques
Nov 13, 2012, 10:59:06 AM11/13/12
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 07:47:13 -0500, "dadiOH" <dad...@invalid.com>
wrote:
>Keith Nuttle wrote:
>> We are putting a 41" X 33" mirror in the tv hole above our fire place.
>> The Mirror is 1/4" thick. The TV hole is standard framing 2x4 with
>> header. The mirror would fit into the hole in the existing framing
>> with the trim that was applied for the TV hole.
>>
>> The plan was to put a 1/2 inch sheet of plywood as a backer board for
>> the mirror. The mirror and the backer board would be held against 1X2
>> frame attached to the trim of the existing TV hole.
>>
>> Today I went to get the wood to cut the 41X33 backer board from.
>>
>> I realized that even 3/4 plywood will warp not a good thing if the
>> mirror is masticed to it.
>>
>> What would you recomend for a backer board?
>>
>> I have talked to several people with ideas all over the board. from
>> sheet rock to no backer.
>
>As long as the trim retains the morror in its niche, why bother with a
>backing? Hanging mirrors don't have them, not substantial ones at least.
Because if someone trips in the area, their hand going through the
mirror would guarantee it being (neatly or nearly) hacked off if there
were no backing.
wrote:
>Keith Nuttle wrote:
>> We are putting a 41" X 33" mirror in the tv hole above our fire place.
>> The Mirror is 1/4" thick. The TV hole is standard framing 2x4 with
>> header. The mirror would fit into the hole in the existing framing
>> with the trim that was applied for the TV hole.
>>
>> The plan was to put a 1/2 inch sheet of plywood as a backer board for
>> the mirror. The mirror and the backer board would be held against 1X2
>> frame attached to the trim of the existing TV hole.
>>
>> Today I went to get the wood to cut the 41X33 backer board from.
>>
>> I realized that even 3/4 plywood will warp not a good thing if the
>> mirror is masticed to it.
>>
>> What would you recomend for a backer board?
>>
>> I have talked to several people with ideas all over the board. from
>> sheet rock to no backer.
>
>As long as the trim retains the morror in its niche, why bother with a
>backing? Hanging mirrors don't have them, not substantial ones at least.
mirror would guarantee it being (neatly or nearly) hacked off if there
were no backing.
dpb
Nov 13, 2012, 11:03:58 AM11/13/12
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On 11/13/2012 9:59 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 07:47:13 -0500, "dadiOH"<dad...@invalid.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Keith Nuttle wrote:
>>> We are putting a 41" X 33" mirror in the tv hole above our fire place.
...
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 07:47:13 -0500, "dadiOH"<dad...@invalid.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Keith Nuttle wrote:
>>> We are putting a 41" X 33" mirror in the tv hole above our fire place.
>> As long as the trim retains the morror in its niche, why bother with a
>> backing? Hanging mirrors don't have them, not substantial ones at least.
>
> Because if someone trips in the area, their hand going through the
> mirror would guarantee it being (neatly or nearly) hacked off if there
> were no backing.
Trip and fall _OVER_ the fireplace up into the TV niche above it????
That's some "trip"... :)
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Leon
Nov 13, 2012, 11:09:27 AM11/13/12
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dadiOH
Nov 13, 2012, 11:55:03 AM11/13/12
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-MIKE-
Nov 13, 2012, 12:34:24 PM11/13/12
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On 11/13/12 9:59 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> As long as the trim retains the morror in its niche, why bother with a
>> backing? Hanging mirrors don't have them, not substantial ones at least.
>
> Because if someone trips in the area, their hand going through the
> mirror would guarantee it being (neatly or nearly) hacked off if there
> were no backing.
>
You have a knack for exaggeration. :-p
>> As long as the trim retains the morror in its niche, why bother with a
>> backing? Hanging mirrors don't have them, not substantial ones at least.
>
> Because if someone trips in the area, their hand going through the
> mirror would guarantee it being (neatly or nearly) hacked off if there
> were no backing.
>
Dave
Nov 13, 2012, 1:06:30 PM11/13/12
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:34:24 -0600, -MIKE- <mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com>
people can't see where they're going. So naturally, he should protect
against anyone reaching out and putting their hand through the mirror.
:)
>> Because if someone trips in the area, their hand going through the
>> mirror would guarantee it being (neatly or nearly) hacked off if there
>> were no backing.
>You have a knack for exaggeration. :-p
Well, after a nice long shower, the bathroom is filled with steam and
>> mirror would guarantee it being (neatly or nearly) hacked off if there
>> were no backing.
>You have a knack for exaggeration. :-p
people can't see where they're going. So naturally, he should protect
against anyone reaching out and putting their hand through the mirror.
:)
Mike Marlow
Nov 13, 2012, 3:44:22 PM11/13/12
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-MIKE-
Nov 13, 2012, 5:21:09 PM11/13/12
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that I advocated a mirror backing for that very reason. Moot point in
this matter, however.
The exaggeration I thought was obvious to anyone reading, was the part
about hacking ones hand off.
Sonny
Nov 13, 2012, 7:07:06 PM11/13/12
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On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 4:21:11 PM UTC-6, -MIKE- wrote:
> > If you followed another recent thread on this very subject ....
Same thread, same poster, as on Oct 22nd. Maybe next month we'll get it again.
That job should have been completed, already.
Sonny
> > If you followed another recent thread on this very subject ....
Same thread, same poster, as on Oct 22nd. Maybe next month we'll get it again.
That job should have been completed, already.
Sonny
Keith Nuttle
Nov 13, 2012, 7:33:32 PM11/13/12
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reaching through and pulling me into their dimension??
This should be the last on this particular project. I am great full
that I have all of you to assist with these projects, as it allows me to
do thing I have never done before.
To night I have all of the things necessary to install the mirror.
However, I have a real bad head cold, the type that effect your
equilibrium. Since this project is ladder work with a large mirror, I
decided it would be best to wait until my equilibrium returns
Puckdropper at dot
Nov 13, 2012, 8:29:58 PM11/13/12
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"Mike Marlow" <mmarlo...@windstream.net> wrote in news:k7ub98$4t4$1
@dont-email.me:
>
> They shower in the living room? Kinky...
>
Maybe it's a true one-room apartment. ;-)
Puckdropper
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>
> They shower in the living room? Kinky...
>
Puckdropper
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Nov 13, 2012, 8:53:59 PM11/13/12
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Mike Marlow
Nov 13, 2012, 9:48:04 PM11/13/12
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Keith Nuttle wrote:
>
> OP: Will the backer board protect me from someone behind the mirror
> reaching through and pulling me into their dimension??
No - however it has apparently already been determined that when they reach
>
> OP: Will the backer board protect me from someone behind the mirror
> reaching through and pulling me into their dimension??
through, the mirror will shatter, and the shards will dismember them, making
perhaps a bloody mess in the living room, but leaving you otherwise
unscathed.
>
> To night I have all of the things necessary to install the mirror.
> However, I have a real bad head cold, the type that effect your
> equilibrium. Since this project is ladder work with a large mirror, I
> decided it would be best to wait until my equilibrium returns
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mmarlo...@windstream.net
Martin Eastburn
Nov 14, 2012, 10:04:34 PM11/14/12
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I would suggest cement board that is used in bathrooms and such.
Fiberglass and cement. Won't wiggle in water.
Martin
On 11/12/2012 3:55 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
Fiberglass and cement. Won't wiggle in water.
Martin
On 11/12/2012 3:55 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
Keith Nuttle
Nov 14, 2012, 10:06:33 PM11/14/12
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On 11/14/2012 10:04 PM, Martin Eastburn wrote:
> I would suggest cement board that is used in bathrooms and such.
>
> Fiberglass and cement. Won't wiggle in water.
>
> Martin
>
Since this mirror is over my fireplace it it is in the water, I have
> I would suggest cement board that is used in bathrooms and such.
>
> Fiberglass and cement. Won't wiggle in water.
>
> Martin
>
much bigger problems.
Preston
Feb 21, 2021, 11:31:03 AM2/21/21
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Where can I buy a black mirror backing 35"*35"
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Leon
Feb 21, 2021, 12:26:53 PM2/21/21
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On 2/21/2021 10:30 AM, Preston wrote:
> Where can I buy a black mirror backing 35"*35"
>
Glass shop.
> Where can I buy a black mirror backing 35"*35"
>
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