Oneida Super Dust Deputy XL 6”

[Aaron G]

Wondering if anyone has installed this? Is it an efficient cyclone when paired with a high merv cartridge filter? Planning on hooking up to a 2 hp single stage.

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[Leon]

On 7/15/2021 7:45 PM, Aaron G wrote:
> Wondering if anyone has installed this? Is it an efficient cyclone when
> paired with a high merv cartridge filter? Planning on hooking up to a 2
> hp single stage.
>

What do you hope to gain?

Genuinely I am interested. MY DC is getting old and I could not ask for
more, I think.

MY DC is a JET 1100 CFM with the pleated canister filter.

I once thought that a cyclone system might be better but I lose no
noticeable amount of suction.

[Aaron G]

I hope to gain cleaner air and easier disposal of sawdust

[Leon]

On 7/16/2021 5:31 PM, Aaron G wrote:
> I hope to gain cleaner air and easier disposal of sawdust
>

Ok, will it actually filter the air better than a pleated filter? I
have a lot of stuff around my DC pleated canister filter. There is
little to no accumulated dust.

And does it really make it easier to dispose of saw dust? Won't you now
have regular and ultra fine dust to deal with. If you still have to
deal with saw dust I do not see how that is easier.

I honestly would like to believe that those would be great attributes
but simply separating fine from coarse dust is not, IMHO, doing anything
but creating more work.

NOW! Take in mind that I also extensively use a Festool Dust Extractor
so the majority of fine dust goes into that. But the Jet DC collects
pretty fine dust from my disk and drum sanders.

Finally if you are more apt to use better dust collection and it
effectively does collect more dust I would say go for it. I was in that
camp for a very long time until I began really looking at what I would
gain. I don't have a dust problem with my set up.

FWIW Jet has a normal looking DC with pleated filter that has some kind
of "Vortex" panel between the dust bag and the pleated filter.
I think it keeps the pleated filter cleaner longer but all of the dust
still ends up having to be emptied at some point.

So here is what Oneida has to say about the unit you mentioned.

For use with single stage dust collectors and 6" piping, this DIY
cyclone eliminates filter clogging, suction loss, and messy dust bags by
removing over 99% of fine dust and debris from the airstream, containing
it safely in a customer supplied container.

To that I ask, is separating fine dust from coarse dust eliminating
having to deal with fine dust? You have to supply a container for the
fine dust. If you do not collect it in a bag and let it go straight
into a can it seems that there will be more of an issue, you have to
pour it out and that will create a lot of dust in air. Yes it will help
keep fine dust out of a pleated filter.

I have a Jet 1100 CFM pleated canister DC. I have had it for 15 years
and have never replaced the canister. The canister does get clogged
with fine dust when I extensively use my drum sander but I spin the
paddles inside and I am back in business. That takes a minute.

The Jet with Vortex might eliminate the fine dust getting into the
canister however. AND all dust goes into a single bag. You don't need
extra space and or an extra dust container.

See the Jet Vortex in the link below. You can skip to nearer the end
when they compare the canister filter of a regular DC to the one with
the Vortex feature.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IglrwQfauJo

IMHO neither the Oneida or the Jet eliminate dealing with dust or make
the air any safer to breath. Both basically keep your filter unclogged
longer.

My shop is a 3 car garage and space is a big consideration for me. The
smaller a foot print the better. You may not have a space issue.

You may build a heck of a lot more than me and the canister staying
clean longer may be a big plus. I build quite a bit, I'm not bragging
here but I have owned a Festool Domino for about 14 years. I have cut
well in excess of 10,000 mortises with it. I stopped counting about 4
years ago.

Thanks for indulging me. Regardless of what you end up doing I would
be very interested in what you decide and later on if you feel that the
set up is a better solution for you.

[k...@notreal.com]

On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 18:52:24 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

Obviously the total dust is the same either way. I think there are at
least three advantages of the cyclone. Many DCs (mine included) are a
RITA to empty. Larger particles, particularly planer shavings won't
make it to the DC. These won't plug up the filter that's really
intended for fines. The bag or drum doesn't fill as fast keeping, the
airflow up.

The other big advance I see is keeping all the large stuff,
particularly metal from entering ye impeller.

[Leon]

Agreed, I would rather not empty my DC but it takes 15 or so minutes a
few time a year. I will say that most of my work is for a client and I
buy reprocessed wood, so not so much planer shavings, but a ton of TS
saw dust.

Larger particles, particularly planer shavings won't
> make it to the DC. These won't plug up the filter that's really
> intended for fines.

I have no issue with large shavings plugging my pleated filter, it is
the dust from my drum sander that seems to do that, and turning the
paddles solves that issue pretty quickly.

In my case, I really have no wants for something different.

BUT IF there was something missing I would certainly want to see an
alternative. So far not so much.

[dpb]

On 7/17/2021 9:52 PM, Leon wrote:
> On 7/17/2021 7:30 PM, k...@notreal.com wrote:

...

> Agreed, I would rather not empty my DC but it takes 15 or so minutes a
> few time a year.  I will say that most of my work is for a client and I
> buy reprocessed wood, so not so much planer shavings, but a ton of TS
> saw dust.

...big snips for brevity...

When, as you note you don't create large shavings then there's not much
point in having a separator for large shavings in the system.

Those of us who use virtually all roughsawn lumber and run it through
the PM 180 or larger planer are another class entirely.

Even if one uses "just" a lunchbox planer and jointer extensively, the
separator is almost a necessity.

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[Leon]

Oh I'm not saying that the set up is not a good one, just that when
considering "my" situation that it might not be an advantage.

That is why I was asking so many questions.

But with that being said, do you have to empty your shavings daily? Is
that how much you are having to dispose of? I could see that and maybe
more often if the planer is running for hours on end.

In my case, the big issue is the fine dust getting into the pleated
filter, and the cyclone does not seem to prevent that. Fortunately that
is quickly and easily dealt with by turning the paddles.

By your comment, I think I see that the cyclone set up is more for
sending larger quantity shavings to an easier to dump container. I can
certainly see a reason for that!

[dpb]

On 7/18/2021 9:38 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 7/18/2021 9:24 AM, dpb wrote:
>> On 7/17/2021 9:52 PM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 7/17/2021 7:30 PM, k...@notreal.com wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>> Agreed, I would rather not empty my DC but it takes 15 or so minutes
>>> a few time a year.  I will say that most of my work is for a client
>>> and I buy reprocessed wood, so not so much planer shavings, but a ton
>>> of TS saw dust.
>>
>> ...big snips for brevity...
>>
>> When, as you note you don't create large shavings then there's not
>> much point in having a separator for large shavings in the system.
>>
>> Those of us who use virtually all roughsawn lumber and run it through
>> the PM 180 or larger planer are another class entirely.
>>
>> Even if one uses "just" a  lunchbox planer and jointer extensively,
>> the separator is almost a necessity.
>>
>> --
>>
>
> Oh I'm not saying that the set up is not a good one, just that when
> considering "my" situation that it might not be an advantage.
>
> That is why I was asking so many questions.
>
> But with that being said, do you have to empty your shavings daily?  Is
> that how much you are having to dispose of?  I could see that and maybe
> more often if the planer is running for hours on end.

...

When really prepping lumber, sure. I'll generally do the first rough
planing on a whole stack at the time of purchase in which case it could
be several times a day -- before the set up now where I can actually
park the big truck under a discharge with an "elephant trunk" made of a
bunch of gunny sacks opened on both ends and sewn together to contain
the outflow. Then I can just take straight to dump or occasionally find
locals wanting for mulch or the like. I've run out of places I want to
dump much more.

That occasional use aside, still when prepping individual pieces and
surface jointing and then thickness planing to final thickness it still
creates enough large chips that if only had the one-stage bag on the
bottom it fills up in a pretty short time to the point of at least
reduced air flow if not immediate dump required.

Then, add in the copious shavings from the 3/4" spindle shaper I use
extensively for panels and/or edgings or from the many feet of
architectural trim I just did for the new windows/door casings in the
house remodel, for example...one can create volume to nearly rival the
planer with it as well.

Many of the particularly earlier designs that folks may still have are a
RITA to get the bag back on -- the first one I had just drove me nuts to
do so -- could spend what seemed an eternity managing to get it back
over the lip. I finally(!) had some handles sewn on the bag so could
get a grip on it that helped.

I upgraded the DC to a used Dayton I found on line from a guy who had
gone big-time and installed a full-shop DC system that is set up with
50-gal drum which is the way it normally works when not doing the "big
stack o' stuff!" routine. But still, even it takes only a couple days
of real work. I can get the little 955 utility tractor to it and set it
in the bucket to then take to the haul-off...

The sanding and TS dust is nearly inconsequential in comparison to
volume, I pretty-much just ignore the sanding as it gets blown away in
the KS wind if working in the barn and the TS is small enough the old
single-stage DC can handle it easily enough -- although I intended to
run duct work for it, it's just more trouble to do that than I've gotten
around to so far -- and my age now, it's unlikely I'll ever get that
round tuit.

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[Leon]

I can certainly see a need to deal with the shavings are a remote fill
spot when doing that much work.

A lot of past posters have had the small cyclone's on top of a 5 gal
pail, running to their shop vac. I confess I was thinking more along
those lines when I saw the Oneida.

This popped up before I searched the a actual unit the OP was talking about.

https://www.oneida-air.com/dust-deputy/wet-dry-vacuum-kits/dust-deputy-deluxe-cyclone-separator-kit

>
> That occasional use aside, still when prepping individual pieces and
> surface jointing and then thickness planing to final thickness it still
> creates enough large chips that if only had the one-stage bag on the
> bottom it fills up in a pretty short time to the point of at least
> reduced air flow if not immediate dump required.

Understood. I do recall planing 200 bf of rough cut oak 14 or so years
ago. The DC did fill quickly. Before I got the DC I used a 10 bench
top planer, the original Ryobi AP10. I do recall loosing our chocolate
lab under the shavings. She loved to lay under the end of the planer
and disappear.

[dpb]

On 7/18/2021 11:43 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 7/18/2021 10:13 AM, dpb wrote:
>> On 7/18/2021 9:38 AM, Leon wrote:
>>> On 7/18/2021 9:24 AM, dpb wrote:
>>>> On 7/17/2021 9:52 PM, Leon wrote:
>>>>> On 7/17/2021 7:30 PM, k...@notreal.com wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> Agreed, I would rather not empty my DC but it takes 15 or so
>>>>> minutes a few time a year.  I will say that most of my work is for
>>>>> a client and I buy reprocessed wood, so not so much planer
>>>>> shavings, but a ton of TS saw dust.
>>>>
>>>> ...big snips for brevity...
>>>>
>>>> When, as you note you don't create large shavings then there's not
>>>> much point in having a separator for large shavings in the system.
>>>>
>>>> Those of us who use virtually all roughsawn lumber and run it
>>>> through the PM 180 or larger planer are another class entirely.
>>>>
>>>> Even if one uses "just" a  lunchbox planer and jointer extensively,
>>>> the separator is almost a necessity.
>>>>

... snnip...

>>
>> That occasional use aside, still when prepping individual pieces and
>> surface jointing and then thickness planing to final thickness it
>> still creates enough large chips that if only had the one-stage bag on
>> the bottom it fills up in a pretty short time to the point of at least
>> reduced air flow if not immediate dump required.
>
> Understood.  I do recall planing  200 bf of rough cut oak 14 or so years
> ago.  The DC did fill quickly.  Before I got the DC I used a 10 bench
> top planer, the original Ryobi AP10.  I do recall loosing our chocolate
> lab under the shavings.  She loved to lay under the end of the planer
> and disappear.

Never had a dog that liked to be in shop with equipment running -- noise
freaked them out. For a while before getting things set up after we
came back the jointer wasn't on the DC and the cats liked those chips
for bedding...

--dpb

[Leon]

LOL. After many year later the Lab went to doogie heaven to be replaced
by an 8 week old Great Dane.

When the Dane was about 5 months old I brought her out to the shop, it
was Spring, and I tied her to the my jointer. I don't recall what I
turned on but she and the jointer headed out the door. She was a great
dog in every aspect except being in the shop when I was working.

[k...@notreal.com]

On Sat, 17 Jul 2021 21:52:50 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>

Last weekend I was looking for some exotic shorts at Woodcraft. I
thought I was picking through 2x4s at the BORG.

>
>
>Larger particles, particularly planer shavings won't
>> make it to the DC. These won't plug up the filter that's really
>> intended for fines.
>
>I have no issue with large shavings plugging my pleated filter, it is
>the dust from my drum sander that seems to do that, and turning the
>paddles solves that issue pretty quickly.
>
>In my case, I really have no wants for something different.
>
>BUT IF there was something missing I would certainly want to see an
>alternative. So far not so much.
>

Mine has two bags. I can beat it silly but there is always mur in
there. I hope to replace it soon with a HEPA. But I'll have to
replace my truck first. Tough timr to do it but a car, a Mustang
convertible, doesnt haul much wood.

[aaron]

Thank you Leon. I don’t produce as much as you. I am a retired guy in a small workshop in an attached garage with a wife that is very sensitive to PM2.5 particles. Plus, I have a bit of issue with dust too since being a carpenter for 40 years. The SDD doesn’t have the typical cyclone shape that you see when purchasing a complete system so I was wondering if anyone has ever installed one and can comment on it. I will keep you informed when I complete my setup. Thanks, Aaron

[Leon]

On 7/21/2021 8:15 PM, aaron wrote:
> Thank you Leon. I don’t produce as much as you. I am a retired guy in a
> small workshop in an attached garage with a wife that is very sensitive
> to PM2.5 particles. Plus, I have a bit of issue with dust too since
> being a carpenter for 40 years. The SDD doesn’t have the typical cyclone
> shape that you see when purchasing a complete system so I was wondering
> if anyone has ever installed one and can comment on it. I will keep you
> informed when I complete my setup.  Thanks, Aaron
>

Hey Arron, I'm a retired guy in a relatively small workshop in an
attached garage. LOL.

Thanks for the reply! I'll look forward to your decision and how that
works out for you.

I don't know if you have any Festool or like products. But, with this
type system, using one of their dust extractors along with any of their
sanders, dust becomes much less of a problem. Before I used dust
collection on my sanders I would almost have to change clothes to come
into the house. With the Festool setup I can turn the sander off and
walk right in to eat after rinsing my hands.

[aaron]

Leon, I have the MIDI that I use with my Kapex and sanders. Yes, I agree, does it ever collect sanding dust. From my Kapex, not as efficient. I had tried the Festool preseparator with the Kapex but I found it didn’t really do anything. I was using a 10’ 1.5” hose. I later found that it is most effective with routers and dominos.

[Leon]

On 7/22/2021 10:31 AM, aaron wrote:
> Leon, I have the MIDI that I use with my Kapex and sanders. Yes, I
> agree, does it ever collect sanding dust. From my Kapex, not as
> efficient. I had tried the Festool preseparator with the Kapex but I
> found it didn’t really do anything. I was using a 10’ 1.5” hose. I later
> found that it is most effective with routers and dominos.
>

Ah! You have moved to the dark side. LOL.

I have the Kapex too. Mine picks up dust pretty well and then one day
it did not.

I looked for a clog and saw nothing. I even looked dowe into the port
on the saw and only saw the blade. HOWEVER during my exploring a piece
of thin wood fell out on to the saw surface. After that the dust
collection was restored to 95 %. Apparently that small piece of wood
was disturbing the flow.

FWIW I understand the larger diameter hose, that Festool sells, works
better also.

I have not yet gone the Festool router route. I do not often use a
router these days.

While we are drinking the Festool Koolaid, have you seen or tried the
new edge sanding attachment for the Festool sander? I got my hands on
one earlier this year and of course it did not fit any of my Festool
sanders and I had to add a 4th Festool sander.
That edge sander really works well and is fast. I finished a kitchen
remodel in March and the edge sander made edging sanding the 32 doors +
drawer fronts a quick and easy job.

[aaron]

You are a much more productive woodworker than I. I am no longer into
kitchen cabinets so would not have much use for the edge sander. Mind you, I have not even viewed it yet. I built one set of kitchen cabinets early in my career but found it much to competitive so I switched to commercial cabinetry for small retail. It was more profitable and the variety kept the job interesting.
I don’t have a Festool router either. Have have an older Porter Cable 690 with a fixed and plunge cut base but at some point will get a Jessem router lift and compatible router. I purchased A Ridgid professional hose for the Kapex. It is 1.5” in diameter. The end fits perfectly over the Kapex and it came with the fittings to fit into the MIDI. Also, the interior ribbing of the Ridgid hose looks exactly like the interior of the Festool hose. Since the price was a third of Festool, I didn’t mind cutting it down to 6 feet. That said, I have always been a bit disappointed int the dust collection capabilities of my Kapex. From all the hyperbole, I always expected more. However, I have recently learned that I need to hange my cutting technique. No plunge cutting. Slide forward, plunge, and then pull the blade back into the wood for the best dust collection.
And still doing a bit of research on dust collection. I have found a source in Canada for the Wynn Environmental cartfidhe filter that everyone talks about.
So I am going to order one to go with the Oneida SDD XL. The Oneida is the only off the shelf cyclone available that I can find.

[Leon]

On 7/23/2021 6:01 PM, aaron wrote:
> You are a much more productive woodworker than I. I am no longer into
> kitchen cabinets so would not have much use for the edge sander. Mind
> you, I have not even viewed it yet.

Well I am not a pro, so to speak, I just happened into this. I retired
from the automotive business at 40. I have been interested in
woodworking since about the age of 10. Woodworking was a therapy for
me. When I retired friends and neighbors began placing orders.

I have probably only built and helped build 7 complete kitchens and have
replaced doors and drawers of 9 or so. I mostly design and build custom
pieces of furniture for clients that cant find what they are looking for
in a furniture store. I build good quality and have a some what unique
design that sells pretty well. None of what I do would be considered a
living although I am pretty certain that if I advertised I would
probably be working way too much. I am strictly word of mouth and I
hand out the occasional business card.



Snip

> I don’t have a Festool router either.

My mistake.

Have have an older Porter Cable
> 690 with a fixed and plunge cut base but at some point will get a Jessem
> router lift and compatible router. I purchased A Ridgid professional
> hose for the Kapex. It is 1.5” in diameter.

Hummm. I have not considered that possibility.

The end fits perfectly over
> the Kapex and it came with the fittings to fit into the MIDI. Also, the
> interior ribbing of the Ridgid hose looks exactly like the interior of
> the Festool hose. Since the price was a third of Festool, I didn’t mind
> cutting it down to 6 feet. That said, I have always been a bit
> disappointed int the dust collection capabilities of my Kapex.

I am surprised that you are having issue with that. If I cut a 1x8 to
length I have to look for the stray dust. On most all other miter saws,
especially my old Delta, it looks like you spray painted saw dust every
where. Anyway, you might check to see if anything out of sight is
disrupting the air flow. My Kapex was really bad on one occasion until
that small sliver of cut off material fell out.

From all
> the hyperbole, I always expected more. However, I have recently learned
> that I need to  hange my cutting technique. No plunge cutting. Slide
> forward, plunge, and then pull the blade back into the wood for the best
> dust collection.

My technique is to pull the blade out and do a shallow cut and pushing
the blade back towards the fence. Then back out again and going full
depth back towards the fence.

> And still doing a bit of research on dust collection. I have found a
> source in Canada for the Wynn Environmental cartfidhe filter that
> everyone talks about.
> So I am going to order one to go with the Oneida SDD XL. The Oneida is
> the only off the shelf cyclone available that I can find.
>

I'll be anxious to hear what you end up with.

[aaron]

Thanks Leon. I shall try your cutting technique. And closely inspect the dust boot and dust channels for debris.

[Sonny]

Leon wrote:

FWIW Jet has a normal looking DC with pleated filter that has some kind
of "Vortex" panel between the dust bag and the pleated filter.
I think it keeps the pleated filter cleaner longer but all of the dust
still ends up having to be emptied at some point.

The Jet with Vortex might eliminate the fine dust getting into the
canister however. AND all dust goes into a single bag. You don't need
extra space and or an extra dust container.

Leon, Aaron - I just bought the Jet.
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/jet-vortex-cone-dust-collector-2hp-1ph-230v-2-micron-canister-kit-model-dc-1200vx-ck1?via=573621bd69702d0676000002%2C576455d369702d2f2f0013a2%2C5764562369702d3c42000be9

I haven't installed an outlet yet, so haven't turned it on. I'm dealing with a breathing issues which I was told has affected many cabinet makers. Since a teenager I didn't use a dust collector until maybe 15 yrs ago and made my own... worked fairly well for my limited use. Even at this late stage, I decided to get a dedicated collector. Leon, you seem to mention considering Jet's Vortex collector. I may soon have a review.

Sonny

[aaron]

Hi Sonny, I have seen Jet’s “vortex”. It is a shallow inverted bowl installed below the opening into the bag. I think you could easily make one yourself from a metal kitchen bowl. But I am still going to try for a cyclone!

[Sonny]

On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 1:01:30 PM UTC-5, aaron wrote:
> Hi Sonny, I have seen Jet’s “vortex”. It is a shallow inverted bowl installed below the opening into the bag. I think you could easily make one yourself from a metal kitchen bowl. But I am still going to try for a cyclone!

Yes. In Leon's case, if he already has the canister, all he needs is the cone (Jet part # DC1100-47) , the hex cap screw (part #TS-1490021), hex nut (Part # TS-1540061) and flat washer (part # TS-1550061) for attaching the cone to the support bracket. Any correct size screw, nut and washer will do, so just need the cone.

Sonny

[Leon]

Great! I would like to hear how bag changes go. When I change the bag,
non vortex version, I reach through the center and work the band and
bag. I would wonder if the vortex shield would inhibit changing bags
this way.

FWIW I do not use the clear bags either. Once a bit if dust gets in
there along with static cling it is difficult to see how full the bag is
anyway. I use the 44 gallon black contractor bags. Just feel the bag
to determine how full it is.

[Leon]

Ah! Thanks for the part numbers!

[Sonny]

Shield won't be in the way. Just pull the ring down, probably similar to what you do with your contractor bag/ring. You wouldn't need the screw, nut and washer... any appropriate screw, nut & washer will do. You might need the cone support bracket (part # DC1100-47-1). Probably could make a wooden bracket. I'll take pics of that assembly.

These might help. JPEG format, copy, save, enlarge as a pic.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/51344623355/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/51344622570/in/dateposted-public/

Sonny

[Sonny]

After thinking a bit, with the canister off you reach through the top, center hole. With the cone you couldn't reach through the top. I would probably reach from the bottom, just below the housing, to remove the ring/bag... i.e., reverse the installation procedure. I don't think that will be difficult. Might be a while before I have to empty my bag, but I may do a trial run..... I have sawdust at the jointer.

Here's some pics. Pretty straight forward, easy cone installation.
With the canister off, looking down into the housing. Black bar is the cone support bracket.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/51344794670/in/dateposted-public/

A closer view.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/51344001293/in/dateposted-public/

You can see the cone support bracket is bent on the ends, matching the bevel of the inner housing plating. If your housing plating doesn't have holes for the screws, shouldn't be hard to drill some
https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/51344001768/in/dateposted-public/

Sonny

[Leon]

On 7/29/2021 4:45 PM, Sonny wrote:
> After thinking a bit, with the canister off you reach through the top, center hole. With the cone you couldn't reach through the top.

Yeah, I find it easier to reach through the top. But maybe a bolt
through the vortex panel, from the bottom, and a nut to hold it on
place. Then the bolt can come up through the bracket hole and a wing
nut on top to hold it in place.


Does yours use the fabric covered metal band that you wrap the bag
around too?

Id so , a word of caution. Guide the bag ut through the center of the
metal band over the top of the band and down the out side of the band.
Running the other way becomes messy when changing bags. The band fabric
gets impregnated with dust.

[Sonny]

On Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 6:08:10 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:

> Does yours use the fabric covered metal band that you wrap the bag
> around too?

Yes. Thanks for the bag-tackling info.

Either Jet discovered or got feedback for wrapping the bag around the ring as you described. The owners manual has those instructions.

Another potential issue: On Jet and Woodcraft (probably other outlets, also) websites, my unit is described as Item #849651, Model 710702K and Model DC-1200VX-CK1, the 2 micron canister unit. It's ordered by item number 849651.
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/jet-vortex-cone-dust-collector-2hp-1ph-230v-2-micron-canister-kit-model-dc-1200vx-ck1?via=573621bd69702d0676000002%2C576455d369702d2f2f0013a2%2C5764562369702d3c42000be9

On my unit, itself, the tag is labeled Stock #710701, Model DC-1200VX, which may be an original earlier number and Jet hasn't updated the tags on the machines, themselves. For their collector number website listings, this model and stock number is for a 30 micron unit with a bag on top, not the canister.
https://www.jettools.com/us/en/p/dc-1200vx-bk1-dust-collector-2hp-1ph-230v-30-micron-bag-filter-kit/710701K

When assembling, the instruction manual used the updated numbers to reference the 849651 ordered unit, model 710702K and DC-1200VX-CK1. I was confused because my unit didn't have those numbers. Took me a while to figure things out, but I need to call Jet to make sure I have the 2 micron canister, not the 30. I suppose the serial number will determine, maybe. There is no tag/numbers on the canister, itself, to indicate which it actually is. As per the numbers on my tool indicate, I don't have the 849651 unit as denoted on the websites. Not so important - These differing numbers are problematic for filling out the tool registration form, also.

Sonny

[Leon]

If it makes you feel any better, I am not sure a canister filter has
openings at 30 micron. that sounds more like the old stile bag that
acted as the filter.