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deasmhuin...@gmail.com

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Nov 30, 2016, 8:44:19 AM11/30/16
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My fixed base Porter Cable 5201 router must be at least 25 years old. It is a large 3.5 HP I believe. It still seems to be in excellent condition. However I am concerned about replacing the carbon brushes. This router has been discontinued and PC have no information about it. After some hunting I managed to find a schematic diagram online with a parts number list. I managed to find one replacement brush after searching the entire Internet. The brush part is a simple design. The carbon is held in a holder attached to a spring. My simplistic idea is that it should be easy to trim down a readily available carbon piece to the size of the OEM part. Can anyone advise me if this is a doable approach. I abhor the idea of a perfectly good machine being rendered inoperative for the want of a $3 part.

I am also disappointed by the total lack of support from PC. These American built routers were built for longevity and they should have had a strategy to maintain a supply of parts for the wearable parts such as brushes and bearings.

If anyone has any information on the history of this model router (5201, base 5202) I would love to hear it.

One last query. The model number includes in the name field the designation Type 2. What does this mean ?

Scott Lurndal

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Nov 30, 2016, 9:28:35 AM11/30/16
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deasmhuin...@gmail.com writes:

>I am also disappointed by the total lack of support from PC. These America=
>n built routers were built for longevity and they should have had a strateg=
>y to maintain a supply of parts for the wearable parts such as brushes and =
>bearings.

Sometime during the reagan administration, the tax code was changed such
that it was no longer benificial to keep long-term inventory. My company
at the time dumped warehouses full of useful old parts to avoid additional
federal taxes. I assume that P-C (or its current owners) have similar tax
issues on unsold inventory.

DerbyDad03

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Nov 30, 2016, 10:05:48 AM11/30/16
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On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 8:44:19 AM UTC-5, Desmond Walsh wrote:
> I managed to find one replacement brush after searching the entire
> Internet.

Does that mean you have a Tor Browser? ;-)

Desmond Walsh

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Nov 30, 2016, 10:40:43 AM11/30/16
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OK OK a little hyperbole on my part. But, I did scroll through the entire google results set - about 20 pages. Like dark matter, there is much more out there but sadly inaccessible to standard browsers

Scott Lurndal

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Nov 30, 2016, 11:02:40 AM11/30/16
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Greg Guarino

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Nov 30, 2016, 11:11:54 AM11/30/16
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I don't know if I can dig up his information, but I bought a part for a
Rockwell router that was my Dad's - perhaps 1970 vintage - from a guy I
found in an online post written by someone else. He's a collector of
Rockwell and Porter Cable and doesn't advertise. Dick something, I
think. He didn't take credit cards; let me send him a check AFTER I
received the part. I look around.

Sonny

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Nov 30, 2016, 11:52:14 AM11/30/16
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My local Ace Hardware has a cache of brushes. I've purchased brushes for my 20-30 yr old PC disc sander and 20-25 yr old Delta Sawbuck.

The local Guidry Hardware has a cache of brushes, also.

Both businesses have been around for ages. Check with your local olde-time local hardware stores.

What is the reference number on ther old brushes (not PC's part number)?

Sonny

Desmond Walsh

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Nov 30, 2016, 2:03:09 PM11/30/16
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The PC part number is 695414. That is the only number that I am aware of. I don't understand what you mean by the reference number

Sonny

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Nov 30, 2016, 2:23:38 PM11/30/16
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On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 1:03:09 PM UTC-6, Desmond Walsh wrote:

> The PC part number is 695414. That is the only number that I am aware of. I don't understand what you mean by the reference number

I'm aware of that number. Sometimes, there is a manufacture's number embossed on the brush body, itself. One uses that number for reference, for purchasing at the hardware store.

What is the width, height and length of your remaining brush's body? According to one site, the brush dimensions are width 5, height 5 and length 5. I have no idea what measuring system was used. I can only assume the brush body may be 1/2" X 1/2" X 1/2", according to the above, but that doesn't seem right, as per the PC parts diagram view.... and common sense!

Sonny

Sonny

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Nov 30, 2016, 2:46:27 PM11/30/16
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On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 1:23:38 PM UTC-6, Sonny wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 1:03:09 PM UTC-6, Desmond Walsh wrote:
>
> > The PC part number is 695414. That is the only number that I am aware of. I don't understand what you mean by the reference number
>
My PC disk sander uses PC brush part #802173. The number on the brush, itself, is 223. Ace uses this 223 number for cataloging in their cache.

Last time I bought brushes for the sander, I bought several pairs.... still have them. Measures 1/4" X 1/4" X 5/8" (7mm X 7mm X 17mm).

I thought to go by Ace or Guidry Hardware to see if they have your brushes.

Sonny

dadiOH

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Nov 30, 2016, 2:49:25 PM11/30/16
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<deasmhuin...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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My fixed base Porter Cable 5201 router must be at least 25 years old. It is
a large 3.5 HP I believe. It still seems to be in excellent condition.
However I am concerned about replacing the carbon brushes. This router has
been discontinued and PC have no information about it. After some hunting I
managed to find a schematic diagram online with a parts number list. I
managed to find one replacement brush after searching the entire Internet.
The brush part is a simple design. The carbon is held in a holder attached
to a spring. My simplistic idea is that it should be easy to trim down a
readily available carbon piece to the size of the OEM part. Can anyone
advise me if this is a doable approach.

No reason you can't trim a new carbon to the size/shape of the old one/


Greg Guarino

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Nov 30, 2016, 3:14:49 PM11/30/16
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On 11/30/2016 8:44 AM, deasmhuin...@gmail.com wrote:
Here's the guy I mentioned in another post:

Dick Jarmon, di...@wwnet.net

Really a pleasure to talk to, and he had the part I needed. Here's a
video and article:

http://www.finewoodworking.com/2006/09/07/dick-jarmon-ultimate-tool-collector

Desmond Walsh

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Dec 1, 2016, 12:05:55 PM12/1/16
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> Here's the guy I mentioned in another post:
>
> Dick Jarmon, di...@wwnet.net
>
> Really a pleasure to talk to, and he had the part I needed. Here's a
> video and article:
>
> http://www.finewoodworking.com/2006/09/07/dick-jarmon-ultimate-tool-collector

I tried to send an email to the address di...@wwnet.net but mail delivery said it was undeliverable. It changed the address to di...@tc3net.com

Greg Guarino

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Dec 1, 2016, 12:37:50 PM12/1/16
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did that work?

Desmond Walsh

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Dec 1, 2016, 2:22:02 PM12/1/16
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UPDATE: Found another contact address: pa...@PorterCableCollector.com. This seems to work

Greg Guarino

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Dec 1, 2016, 2:30:48 PM12/1/16
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If you wouldn't mind, keep us posted on how it works out. He seemed to
be only incidentally in the "business" of selling parts, but apparently
has a trove.

Desmond Walsh

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Dec 2, 2016, 10:55:54 AM12/2/16
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Will do. Thanks for the lead

philjak1

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Jun 27, 2022, 11:15:08 PM6/27/22
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I HAVE A NEW MODEL WITH BASE AND 1/2 INCH COLLET

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