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baltic birch ply in central Alabama?

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bob

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Jan 11, 2004, 10:50:23 PM1/11/04
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Anyone know where to buy full sheets of 3/4" baltic birch plywood in the
Birmingham, AL area?

Woodcraft is mighty proud of their prices. I need quite a bit and am
willing to drive a bit.

Thanks.


KayCee

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Jan 11, 2004, 11:34:41 PM1/11/04
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Bob-
I buy 3/4" birch plywood (7-ply cabinet grade) in 4'x8' sheets at Lowe's in
Huntsville for $41.00 per sheet.
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John Crea

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Jan 12, 2004, 12:14:25 AM1/12/04
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Don't do what I did and walk into a wood supply and ask for a 4x8
sheet of Baltic birch, or you may be laughed out of the store

As far as I know, it only comes in 5x5

John

Bridger

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Jan 12, 2004, 1:16:06 AM1/12/04
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 23:14:25 -0600, John Crea <john...@knology.net>
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>Don't do what I did and walk into a wood supply and ask for a 4x8
>sheet of Baltic birch, or you may be laughed out of the store
>
>As far as I know, it only comes in 5x5
>
>John

I've seen it in 4 x 8.

David Chamberlain

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Jan 12, 2004, 8:49:09 AM1/12/04
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It is available on the east side of Atlanta at Atlanta Wood Products
Center, AWPC, 5400 Riverview Rd, Mableton GA, 800-954-7804. You come across
I20 and then head north on I-285 to the South Cobb Drive exit. Turn right,
take your first right and it is down about 3/4 of a mile.


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Chris

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Jan 12, 2004, 9:16:21 AM1/12/04
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Bob,

Try your local lumber yard. Mine carries 1/2" but they say they can
get 3/4" in 2 or 3 days. If the volume is enough you can probably cut
a good deal as they just have to place the order - little or no
inventory carry time.

-Chris

mttt

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Jan 12, 2004, 12:19:10 PM1/12/04
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"Bridger" <nos...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>
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> On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 23:14:25 -0600, John Crea <john...@knology.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Don't do what I did and walk into a wood supply and ask for a 4x8
> >sheet of Baltic birch, or you may be laughed out of the store
> >

> I've seen it in 4 x 8.

4'x8' sheets of Baltic Birch or Finish Birch? Not ApplyPly?
Where?


John Crea

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Jan 12, 2004, 12:31:35 PM1/12/04
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You sure that was Baltic or Finnish Birch and not just cabinet grade
plywood??

I know that ApplePly comes in full 4x8 or even 4x10 sheets with the
multiple plys like the foreign stuff

John

Bridger

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Jan 12, 2004, 1:16:32 PM1/12/04
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On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 17:19:10 GMT, "mttt" <do-no...@donotuse.com>
wrote:

at mcewen lumber here in tucson.
it's definitely not a regular stocking item for them. it wasn't even
out on the floor... I suspect that it wasn't even for sale. it was
either one or two lifts worth, stuck back in a corner like it was
someone's personal stash. I don't know what the country of origin was,
but they carry the russian stuff, so I suspect that's what it was.
I had heard that some of the baltic manufacturers were making some 4x8
sheets, but that was the first time I had seen any in the wild. and
the last....

it was definitely 4' x 8' sheets though.

Bridger

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Jan 12, 2004, 2:38:55 PM1/12/04
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On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 11:31:35 -0600, John Crea <john...@knology.net>
wrote:

>You sure that was Baltic or Finnish Birch and not just cabinet grade
>plywood??

yep.


>
>I know that ApplePly comes in full 4x8 or even 4x10 sheets with the
>multiple plys like the foreign stuff

yep too.

kb8qlr

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Jan 12, 2004, 5:33:58 PM1/12/04
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According to the very latest issue of ShopNotes....Baltic Birch plywood
comes from somewhere along the Baltic Sea. Russia I suppose. It's
thicknesses are measured in the metric i.e. 18mm for 3/4 inch. Available in
5'x5' sheets.

Here's some links I found...

http://www.growinglifestyle.com/article/s0/a253326.html

http://www.woodworkerssource.net/ebony/baltic-birch-plywood-c.html

http://www.woodnshop.com/default.htm

Hope this helps.
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Chuck Taylor

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Jan 12, 2004, 8:12:06 PM1/12/04
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:50:23 -0600, "bob"
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Perhaps at Hardwoods Inc. of Alabama, in Jemison (near Clanton).

(800) 467-4160 or (205) 646-4160.


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bob

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Jan 12, 2004, 11:15:35 PM1/12/04
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I forgot about Hardwoods Inc. I'll call them tomorrow.

I found 1/2" baltic in 5x5 sheets at Magic City Plywood, downtown
Birmingham, for $21/sheet (good price).

I've been unsuccessful so far finding 3/4" (pending Hardwoods, Inc). Lowes
can special order but you have to buy an entire bundle at $33/sheet. Bundle
is 40 sheets.

Interesting situation with Lowes. They don't stock baltic birch ply. They
can special order it, from a LOCAL wholesaler. You go to Lowes, pay for the
ply, Lowes calls the wholesaler with a PO, and you go to the wholesaler and
pick it up. Lowes priced 1/2" baltic for me at $29/sheet. Magic City is
not the wholesaler. United Plywood is. United won't sell to individuals (I
tried)). Magic City does. Magic gets my business for 1/2".

Bob


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Jan 13, 2004, 10:24:52 AM1/13/04
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Not even if the individual comes armed with a tax i.d. number?

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DeGaDesigns

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Sep 10, 2021, 10:01:16 AM9/10/21
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Magic city plywood has it. We are looking for 1/4" and 1/8" for our laser engraving biz. Know anywhere?

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Leon

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Sep 10, 2021, 11:17:48 AM9/10/21
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On 9/10/2021 9:01 AM, DeGaDesigns wrote:
> Magic city plywood has it. We are looking for 1/4" and 1/8" for our
> laser engraving biz. Know anywhere?
>


I would think to contact ANY local hardwood or lumberyard.

I buy it several sources in Houston, TX. It is not uncommon.

k...@notreal.com

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Sep 10, 2021, 4:17:35 PM9/10/21
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On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 10:17:39 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
I've never seen it anywhere except Woodcraft and Rockler (damned
expensive stuff). All we have for lumberyards are the BORGs and
blue-boxes. I still have to visit the hardwood dealers. They're only
open during normal business hours so it's difficult to get there.

Leon

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Sep 10, 2021, 4:36:27 PM9/10/21
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I am paying about $22.50 per 5'x5' sheet of 1/2" And that is the high
price . :~)

k...@notreal.com

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Sep 10, 2021, 6:23:30 PM9/10/21
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On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 15:36:19 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
Yeah, they want $40 for 24x30.

swalker

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Sep 13, 2021, 3:59:57 PM9/13/21
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On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 14:01:12 +0000, DeGaDesigns
<490cab8f0ac1078a...@example.com> wrote:

>Magic city plywood has it. We are looking for 1/4" and 1/8" for our laser engraving biz. Know anywhere?

I just called Webb Concrete and Building Supply and they dont.

Leon

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Sep 14, 2021, 6:12:04 PM9/14/21
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OK Correction!!! That price just went up to about $65.

k...@notreal.com

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Sep 14, 2021, 6:52:51 PM9/14/21
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On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 17:11:56 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 9/10/2021 3:36 PM, Leon wrote:
>> On 9/10/2021 3:17 PM, k...@notreal.com wrote:
>>> On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 10:17:39 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/10/2021 9:01 AM, DeGaDesigns wrote:
>>>>> Magic city plywood has it. We are looking for 1/4" and 1/8" for our
>>>>> laser engraving biz. Know anywhere?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would think to contact ANY local hardwood or lumberyard.
>>>>
>>>> I buy it several sources in Houston, TX.  It is not uncommon.
>>>
>>> I've never seen it anywhere except Woodcraft and Rockler (damned
>>> expensive stuff).  All we have for lumberyards are the BORGs and
>>> blue-boxes. I still have to visit the hardwood dealers.  They're only
>>> open during normal business hours so it's difficult to get there.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I am paying about $22.50 per 5'x5' sheet of 1/2"  And that is the high
>> price .  :~)
>
>
>OK Correction!!! That price just went up to about $65.

But the floor is dropping out of lumber prices again. $3.25 for 2x4s
at the BORG Saturday. They were $7.50ish just a couple of months ago.
Glad I wasn't speculating on them then.

DerbyDad03

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Sep 15, 2021, 12:50:40 PM9/15/21
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The 1/2" Doug Fir MDO plywood I bought at Lowes a few months ago has
dropped from $79 to $71 (or $73 or $66, depending on location). If I go back
to the same store, it would be $71, but they are out of stock.

However, according to the first image, the size has increased from 4' x 8' to
7.989' x 8' so I guess it's a good deal. Just not sure how I'm going to get it
home. ;-)

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Medium-Density-Overlay-1-2-CAT-PS1-09-Square-Structural-Plywood-Douglas-Fir-Application-as-4-x-8/1000049011

(I sent lowes.com a message, so maybe that will be changed soon)

Leon

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Sep 15, 2021, 3:09:35 PM9/15/21
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Yes construction lumber is returning to normal..

Leon

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Sep 15, 2021, 3:11:48 PM9/15/21
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Those that place the ads and or information on the web site probably
know diddly about lumber sizing.

DerbyDad03

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Sep 15, 2021, 8:09:57 PM9/15/21
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Nor do the people on the other end of the chat session.

When I sent the chat rep the link and explained the error, the first response
back was "What is your zip code?"

I told him that he doesn't need my zip code. "The image with the incorrect
information is on lowes.com. Did you try the link that I sent you?"

The next response: He sent me back the link that I sent him! No words,
just the link.

Geeeez, why does this have to be so hard!

So I asked him "Why are you sending me the link that I just sent to
you? What do you expect me to do with it?"

Next response: "Please give a minute."

Next response: "Thank you for your feedback."

Chat session ends.

It was such a satisfying experience. ;-)

k...@notreal.com

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Sep 15, 2021, 8:49:04 PM9/15/21
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On Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:11:36 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
Or make "minimum wage" and aren't too interested in doing anything
right.

Leon

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Sep 16, 2021, 1:21:07 PM9/16/21
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I run in to this all the time. This is what the world is turning in to
as those that know a thing or two die of or retire.

Leon

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Sep 16, 2021, 1:22:50 PM9/16/21
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I don't think pay has anything to do with it. An idiot gets paid too
much regardless of how much he is making.

Scott Lurndal

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Sep 16, 2021, 1:28:15 PM9/16/21
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Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> writes:
>On 9/15/2021 7:09 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:

>>> Those that place the ads and or information on the web site probably
>>> know diddly about lumber sizing.
>>
>> Nor do the people on the other end of the chat session.
>>
>> When I sent the chat rep the link and explained the error, the first response
>> back was "What is your zip code?"
>>
>> I told him that he doesn't need my zip code. "The image with the incorrect
>> information is on lowes.com. Did you try the link that I sent you?"

Actually, it is quite likely that he _did_ need your zip code; both
Lowes and Home depot will display content based on zip code (either
explicitly provided by the user or by geolocating the browser IP address).

Particularly, the pricing will differ based on the zip code, as
will availability of the item.

Eli the Bearded

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Sep 16, 2021, 2:51:48 PM9/16/21
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In rec.woodworking, Scott Lurndal <sl...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Actually, it is quite likely that he _did_ need your zip code; both
> Lowes and Home depot will display content based on zip code (either
> explicitly provided by the user or by geolocating the browser IP address).
>
> Particularly, the pricing will differ based on the zip code, as
> will availability of the item.

I've notived Home Depot doing that. They typically think I want to got
to the store that's about 4th furthest away from me, instead of one of
the two local ones. I use the Lowes website less (because the local
store is closer than any Home Depot, so I'm more likely to just drive
there and look).

It also would not surprise me if certain items are not available at all
in certain areas. For me, California regulations may make them want to
hide items they can't or won't want to sell in this state. I know there
are a lot of portable generators which other websites will have notes
declaring "Not for sale in California."

For lumber I can imagine distribution is regional and the selection
and prices may vary a lot between Alabama and where ever the call
center is located.

Elijah
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DerbyDad03

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Sep 16, 2021, 3:21:08 PM9/16/21
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On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 1:28:15 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> writes:
> >On 9/15/2021 7:09 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>
> >>> Those that place the ads and or information on the web site probably
> >>> know diddly about lumber sizing.
> >>
> >> Nor do the people on the other end of the chat session.
> >>
> >> When I sent the chat rep the link and explained the error, the first response
> >> back was "What is your zip code?"
> >>
> >> I told him that he doesn't need my zip code. "The image with the incorrect
> >> information is on lowes.com. Did you try the link that I sent you?"
> Actually, it is quite likely that he _did_ need your zip code; both

He did not. You do not. Try the link. Put in any zip you'd like. It's the
*image* that is incorrect.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Medium-Density-Overlay-1-2-CAT-PS1-09-Square-Structural-Plywood-Douglas-Fir-Application-as-4-x-8/1000049011

> Lowes and Home depot will display content based on zip code (either
> explicitly provided by the user or by geolocating the browser IP address).
>
> Particularly, the pricing will differ based on the zip code, as
> will availability of the item.

Yes, the pricing will differ. The availability will differ. The image will not.
Try the link.

(As of the time of this posting, it has not been fixed)


Eli the Bearded

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Sep 16, 2021, 4:50:43 PM9/16/21
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In rec.woodworking, DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 1:28:15 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> Actually, it is quite likely that he _did_ need your zip code; both
> He did not. You do not. Try the link. Put in any zip you'd like. It's the
> *image* that is incorrect.

Ah. I missed that part. I expect no one at Lowes really cares if all of
the images are right. That's a hard task when there are so many images
to manage. Face it, web sites really suck for some sorts of purchases.

> (As of the time of this posting, it has not been fixed)

I don't know what it should look like. I see a picture of a piece of
plywood. That's about what I'd expect for a listing for a piece of
plywood, even it it is a special type.

Elijah
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ask me about software with code to supply generic default images

k...@notreal.com

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Sep 16, 2021, 8:33:26 PM9/16/21
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2021 18:51:44 -0000 (UTC), Eli the Bearded
<*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:

>In rec.woodworking, Scott Lurndal <sl...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> Actually, it is quite likely that he _did_ need your zip code; both
>> Lowes and Home depot will display content based on zip code (either
>> explicitly provided by the user or by geolocating the browser IP address).

VPNs work.

>> Particularly, the pricing will differ based on the zip code, as
>> will availability of the item.
>
>I've notived Home Depot doing that. They typically think I want to got
>to the store that's about 4th furthest away from me, instead of one of
>the two local ones. I use the Lowes website less (because the local
>store is closer than any Home Depot, so I'm more likely to just drive
>there and look).

I just tell them the zip code for the store I want to shop in. If
it's not in stock there, they'll tell me where it is, anyway.
>
>It also would not surprise me if certain items are not available at all
>in certain areas. For me, California regulations may make them want to
>hide items they can't or won't want to sell in this state. I know there
>are a lot of portable generators which other websites will have notes
>declaring "Not for sale in California."
>
>For lumber I can imagine distribution is regional and the selection
>and prices may vary a lot between Alabama and where ever the call
>center is located.

HD's call center is in AL? That would be weird. I'd think it would
be in GA (Atlanta corporate headquarters), IN(dia), or PA(kistan).

k...@notreal.com

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Sep 16, 2021, 8:42:03 PM9/16/21
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2021 12:22:42 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
You get what you pay for (in theory, anyway).

There are signs in almost every store, restaurant, and littering the
highway around here. I tell my wife that they just aren't paying
enough or are shit employers. The restaurant we go for Sunday brunch
hires all the time (mostly kids for bussing or as runners) but never
has a problem with having enough wait staff on the floor. He treats
his people right. The place is full => tips are good => service is
good => place is full. The owner doesn't screw with success.

Eli the Bearded

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Sep 17, 2021, 1:30:35 AM9/17/21
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Place from subject, just for contrasting locations.

Elijah
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DerbyDad03

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Sep 17, 2021, 7:56:22 AM9/17/21
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I'm assuming you are seeing a piece of plywood with some text
superimposed on it. It's the text that is the issue.

Read the superimposed dimensions carefully, compare them
to the dimensions shown under the price and I'm sure you'll
be able to figure out what it should look like.

You'll also understand why I said "Just not sure how I'm going
to get it home." ;-)

Leon

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Sep 17, 2021, 11:19:48 AM9/17/21
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In this example IIRC the named 1/2x 4x8 sheet is described with near
square dimensions.

Imagine trying to haul an 8'x8' sheet of plywood! LOL

5'x5' Baltic birch is at the extreme of my limits for handling.


Leon

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Sep 17, 2021, 11:26:47 AM9/17/21
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You may be in a unique location. In Texas, restaurants are offering
"signing" bonuses to get staff to come back to work. So I doubt the pay
is an issue, at least here.
My nephew, 7 years my junior, is one of those free loaders. He took out
a government loan to restart a landscape business early last year and he
bought a trailer. That trailer is at his parents house and has not been
used for earning money. His parents house is in another state.


Until the stimulus checks and unemployment checks stop going out people
are not eager to go back to work.
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