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Which is Better? Makita 14.4V 6337DWDE or Dewalt 14.4V XRP DW983

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Terry Ramsey

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Jan 14, 2003, 10:12:40 AM1/14/03
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My old Mastercraft 14.4V Cordless has died and its time for a
replacement.

I'm currently considering two drills (available locally, within $10 of
each other):

Makita M-Force 14.4V 6337DWDE 1/2" 2 spd 350lb/ft torque

Dewalt XRP 14.4V DW983 1/2" 3 spd 400 lb/ft torque

Both have all metal gears, extended run batteries. Makita's are NiMh
(2.6 ah) - they advertise longer runtime than other brands.

Any experience with either type?

Anybody have any suggestions?

Thanks,
Terry Ramsey

Brad Bender

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Jan 14, 2003, 10:28:20 AM1/14/03
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I have a Dewalt 12V XRP (DW980 I believe). It's a fantastic drill. There
is a huge difference between Dewalt's XRP and "regular" line. Very nice
drill - good balance, sturdy, 3 speed transmission, 350 lb/inch tourque,
etc. I don't have experience with the Makita model you mention.

Brad


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Jesse

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Jan 14, 2003, 3:38:12 PM1/14/03
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I also have the Dewalt and love it. Wouldn't trade it for anything in the
world. ;-)

Jman

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Renata

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Jan 14, 2003, 3:44:34 PM1/14/03
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I really like Makita products - have a couple of their drills and
based on my experience and others who have posted here - they take a
licking (long drops off ladders, for example) and keep on "ticking".
The NiMh batteries do indeed last longer and I think alos pack a
little more whallop than NiCads. Other blue (teal?) tools as well
have gotten praises.

Can't speak to the DeWalt as I avoid yellow (though I do have a bit).

Renata

B a r r y B u r k e J r .

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Jan 14, 2003, 4:24:55 PM1/14/03
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Terry Ramsey wrote:
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> Dewalt XRP 14.4V DW983 1/2" 3 spd 400 lb/ft torque

I've had one of these since Christmas, and I love it. The DeWalt works
well, feels qood in my hands, and overall has a very high quality feel
under use. I have not used the Makita, but I'll bet you can't go wrong
with either one.

I know that's not exactly the most useful reply you'll get, but there it
is... <G>

Barry

Leon

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Jan 14, 2003, 4:36:58 PM1/14/03
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Both make good drills but I would have to say the Makita is probably better
made. That may transfer to longevity. I have both brands and am more
impressed with the build quality and materials of the Makita.

That said, look at the replacement price of the batteries as those will have
to be replaced long before the drills wear out.


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Dave Ballard

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Jan 15, 2003, 1:16:52 AM1/15/03
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FYI, eBay is a *great* place to pick up additional drill batteries.

Dave

C. Westcott

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Jan 15, 2003, 9:42:52 AM1/15/03
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Which on is on sale? Seriously I think it is a toss up. Used an 18v Makita
the thing was great. When the Battery died, it died, there was no almost.
The Dewalt is OK too. have used the 12v, 14v, 18v of the older ones, and
have interacted with the newer 14v. New is better than the old. I think
the Makita has a bit better balance overall. My dad owns a 7.?v Makita
driver of about 11 years old. Been used and abused for projects meant for
12v tools. It has stood up very well.
The engineers can get me on this one, but I am not sure 50lb. of torque
difference is going to make a difference unless you are constantly dealing
with stuff like Purple Heart etc. especially since the Makita power dies so
quickly (therefore the Torque is more constant as apposed to other batteries
that slacken off over time).

--
Young Carpenter

"Save a Tree, Build Furniture"


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David A. Frantz

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Jan 15, 2003, 10:48:33 AM1/15/03
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I will soon find myself in the same boat as you, that is looking for a
new cordless drill. Having used older models from both manufactures I
would have to say that the Makita is the better drill.

Of course that doesn't deal with the present day hardware. One of the
wood working magazines does cover this issue in a current volume of thier
magazine. Unfortunately I can't seem to locate that issue at the
moment. I do believe though that Panasonic won!

Personally I'd look for durability above almost anything else. With
that rational in place I'd reccomend that you get either a Makita or a
Milwaukee.

Thanks
dave

Jeff

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Jan 15, 2003, 2:21:45 PM1/15/03
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I got the Makita a few weeks ago and like it a lot. After hanging
some cabinets I really appreciated the toggle to go from drill to
driver w/o having to spin the clutch. The locking/ratcheting chuck
also made one handed bit changes easy (I think the Dewalt has a
similar chuck).

I also like the NiMh batteries. More run-time per charge and better
for the environment than NiCd. Win-win.

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Tom M.

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Jan 15, 2003, 11:02:37 PM1/15/03
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> Of course that doesn't deal with the present day hardware. One of the
> wood working magazines does cover this issue in a current volume of thier
> magazine. Unfortunately I can't seem to locate that issue at the
> moment. I do believe though that Panasonic won!

The latest "Popular Woodworking" has a 12 volt cordless drill
shootout. Beleive it or not, they rated the Craftsman the best.
Shocked even the staff.

Tim Carver

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Jan 15, 2003, 11:35:29 PM1/15/03
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On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 11:12:40 -0400, Terry Ramsey
<tdra...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:

>My old Mastercraft 14.4V Cordless has died and its time for a
>replacement.
>
>I'm currently considering two drills (available locally, within $10 of
>each other):
>
>Makita M-Force 14.4V 6337DWDE 1/2" 2 spd 350lb/ft torque
>
>Dewalt XRP 14.4V DW983 1/2" 3 spd 400 lb/ft torque
>
>Both have all metal gears, extended run batteries. Makita's are NiMh
>(2.6 ah) - they advertise longer runtime than other brands.
>
>Any experience with either type?
>

I've got the 18V XRP, which is essentially the same as the 14.4 XRP
except for the battery. Please don't listen to anybody whose opinion
is based only on the old pre-XRP drills. The XRP is a really good
drill, and it is a major improvement over the old DeWalt drills (and
every other drill I've looked at). I've also got two Porter Cable
drills (14.4 and 19.2), and the XRP is just a lot better. The really
cool thing about the XRP is the clutch. Just pick it up in the store
and play with it, you'll see in about 15 seconds what I'm talking
about. It locks down HARD with one hand, with a really nice
satisfying series of ratchet clicks. I've had mine a year or so, and
I have yet to see it slip.

I like Makita products too, I just think DeWalt really did a great job
with the XRP. In fact, it's happens to be the only cordless product
they make that I like.

Tim Carver
ne...@twocarvers.com

2manytoyz

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Jan 19, 2003, 10:06:54 PM1/19/03
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I've been using Makita cordless tools for over a decade. The contractor
that did my home addition first sold me on them. I was using a Black &
Decker back then (now known as Dewalt!). The difference was a tool compared
to a kid's toy. I bought my first Makita that weekend. Soon bought one for
my father and father-in-law. Later bought a few more for myself. On
assembly work, I keep one setup for drilling, another for countersinking,
another for driving. All are of the 9.6V variety. Rarely found need for
more power. I also have the cutoff saw, flashlight, 90 degree drill, impact
drill, and multiple batteries. The 9.6V stick batteries remain the most
widely available rechargable battery pack, bar none. Cost is about $25-$30
each.
Home Depot had a closeout on the 9.6V impact drills, which are varible speed
and reversible. The impact feature is easily switched off. They were only
$39 but didn't have a charger or battery. Not a problem for those of us
with a full compliment of Makita toys. I bought several of these to add to
my collection of Makita cordless drills.

I use the 14.4V Makita at work. Nice drill. Has plenty of oomph for bigger
jobs. Very well balanced. The drill also sits upright on it's battery on
the bench. Nice feature. However, for day to day woodworking, this drill
is oversized, IMHO. It's heavy and drills holes no better than it's 9.6V
sibling. If you plan on boring large holes, this may be the beast for you.
A smaller 9.6V will drive 3" drywall screws into the side edge of a 2x4
until either the head breaks off, or the screw comes out the other side.
One of my demos I do for my friends and coworkers considering a larger
drill. If you plan on doing any work overhead with the drill, hold one
overhead for a minute... that'll help you decide. I've installed vinyl
soffets on two houses with my drill. My arms still thank me. If your
budget allows, consider having two sizes of cordless drills. My coworker
has a Royobi 9.6V for day to day work, an 18V Dewalt for the really big
jobs. While the Royobi isn't in the same league as the Makita, it's a
bargain for the $39 price, which includes the battery, charger, and case.

Not one of my Makita tools, corded or cordless, has ever failed or had the
performance wane. Well made, and well supported. I did drop a circular saw
onto concrete and break the aluminum blade guard (ouch). Easily found a
replacement part and had it quickly.

Some love Dewalt. Still has the B&D stigma attached for me. I've had over
a dozen of their B&D tools fail before buying better ones.

As usual, YMMV.

Robert


GTO69RA4

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Jan 19, 2003, 11:46:36 PM1/19/03
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The only B&D tools rebadged as DeWalts were the "B&D Industrial" models and
some from the '50s (DW610, DW130, etc). I have a few of both and they are still
going strong. These days, DeWalt no longer sells any cordless tools that were
ever B&D. That went out with the 12V drills that used the "long" batteries.

The older Makitas that I had/have were great, but the newer drill I have seems
flimsy. I also own a couple of recent 18V DeWalts that are rugged as hell.

GTO(John)

B a r r y B u r k e J r .

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Jan 20, 2003, 6:29:09 AM1/20/03
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2manytoyz wrote:
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> I was using a Black & > Decker back then (now known as Dewalt!).

Huh?

Corporate relationships do not automatically mean the tools are the
same.

Barry

David A. Frantz

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Jan 20, 2003, 10:56:56 PM1/20/03
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No experience with the current models but I can say that the Makitas in
the older generations held up a lot better than the dewalts. In fact I
have to wonder how the dewalts got thier reputation.

If your willing to look at the high end you might as well consider
everything else on the market such as PC, Milwaukee, and waht ever else
comes to mind.

Dave


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Jamie Arnold

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Jan 20, 2003, 10:45:20 PM1/20/03
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The Craftsman just got an excellent writeup. My dad bought one and
has used it daily for 2 months so far on remodels and he loves it.

Thomas Kohlman

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Jan 21, 2003, 12:44:35 AM1/21/03
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That would most likely be the Craftsman "Professional" series and not the
run of the mill...

Consider Metabo? I had never heard of it until a trip to the store to
replace my 9 year old Milwaukee 12v that just didn't seem to survive 4 years
in Europe working from a voltage converter. I love the new 15v for its
relatively compact size and excellent balance. Add to that a pulse feature
that is great for driving screws.

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