Bosch 1613 EVS router
Janusz R. Mrozek
difficult to use in a table because it cannot be fitted with a depth
adjustment knob that is easily used while it is under a table. Have
any of you used this router under a table? Is it manageable (for a few
years until one can afford both a handheld router and a table router
or shaper)?
By the way, any comments on the Ryobi RE175, or the DeWalt 615?
I am looking for something that I can use, among other applications, to
make dadoes in plywood.
john bell
Janusz R. Mrozek <janusz...@econ.gatech.edu> wrote:
>The Highland Hardware catalog says that the Bosch 1613 EVS router is
>difficult to use in a table because it cannot be fitted with a depth
>adjustment knob that is easily used while it is under a table. Have
>any of you used this router under a table? Is it manageable (for a few
>years until one can afford both a handheld router and a table router
>or shaper)?
I have that router, and routinely use it under the table. The height
adjustment is through a nut on a threaded rod, which is a bit difficult
to adjust while it is under the table. Bosch's solution, is to sell
you a special "wrench", which is basically a nut captured in the end
of a hollow tube, with a handle on the other end. I thought their
price was a bit high for that accessory, so I made my own by gluing
the original nut into the end of some PVC tubing of the right size.
My solution was almost free, and works pretty well except it falls
off from time to time. ( Anyone know a good glue for steel to PVC? )
I should add that I don't have the luxury of woodworking as a profession,
so what is an occasional and tolerable annoyance for me might not
be acceptable for others.
BTW, I see the original poster is from Ga Tech.
I'm also a Ga Tech alumnus - GO JACKETS!!
John
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Janusz R. Mrozek
an exposed nut; it had a plastic knob at the end of a column that would do
the microadjusting. The knob is round, not hex-shaped. I don't recall seeing
the threaded rod with two nuts that I saw on other routers. I will look in the
Bosch catalog tonight and see if they offer the accessory you speak of, and if I
can see in the picture what you describe.
Philip I. Rose
> The Highland Hardware catalog says that the Bosch 1613 EVS router is
> difficult to use in a table because it cannot be fitted with a depth
> adjustment knob that is easily used while it is under a table. Have
> any of you used this router under a table? Is it manageable (for a few
> years until one can afford both a handheld router and a table router
> or shaper)?
I've been using the Bosch 1613evs in a router table. The depth adjusting
knob is great and gives about +/- 3/8 inch. Can't imagine anything easier.
Phil Rose
pir...@naz.edu
Philip I. Rose
> In article <45enjt$e...@mordred.gatech.edu>,
> Janusz R. Mrozek <janusz...@econ.gatech.edu> wrote:
> >The Highland Hardware catalog says that the Bosch 1613 EVS router is
> >difficult to use in a table because it cannot be fitted with a depth
> >adjustment knob that is easily used while it is under a table. Have
>
> I have that router, and routinely use it under the table. The height
> adjustment is through a nut on a threaded rod, which is a bit difficult
> to adjust while it is under the table. Bosch's solution, is to sell
> you a special "wrench", which is basically a nut captured in the end
I think you're confusing the 1613 EVS with some other model. The 1613 EVS
has a nice easily turnable, calibrated knob. Needs no special wrench, etc.
Phil Rose
pir...@naz.edu
Kevin W. Tucker
>to adjust while it is under the table. Bosch's solution, is to sell
>>you a special "wrench", which is basically a nut captured in the end
This must be the 1611evs (3hp) model with the nut - the 1613evs has
Bosch's micro-adjust dial which is a rounded plastic knob that has
about 3/8" dial range.
Keving
ANNE B. WATSON
Keeep the nut where it belongs by slipping a piece of plastic pipe
just big enough to let the threaded rod slide through. Take up space
with silicone caulk. Nut will just sit on top of inner pipe.
Bennett Leeds
> In article <45enjt$e...@mordred.gatech.edu>,
> Janusz R. Mrozek <janusz...@econ.gatech.edu> wrote:
> >The Highland Hardware catalog says that the Bosch 1613 EVS router is
> >difficult to use in a table because it cannot be fitted with a depth
> >adjustment knob that is easily used while it is under a table. Have
> >years until one can afford both a handheld router and a table router
> >or shaper)?
>
Uh, read the original post again. If you've got a threaded rod with a
nut you don't have a 1613EVS, you probably have a 1615EVS.
In any case, unless you have an easy way to pop the router out of the
table (using an insert like Woodhaven's for instance), you'll find
the 1613/1614 routers not the best for undertable mounting.
A better all-around router, IMHO, is the DeWalt 625, although I think
the Bosch is better for strictly hand-held stuff.
- Bennett Leeds
ben...@mv.us.adobe.com
Bennett Leeds
> In <45enjt$e...@mordred.gatech.edu> "Janusz R. Mrozek"
> <janusz...@econ.gatech.edu> writes:
> >
> >The Highland Hardware catalog says that the Bosch 1613 EVS router is
>
> I have two 1613EVS routers mounted in a table, with power feeders, as
> well. I have no difficulty at all. I don't really understand what the
> problem is.
That's because you don't change bits and don't mess with the height
adjustments. You use them as dedicated one-purpose machines.
In a typical home shop, with likely just one router, one needs ease of
flexibility. One needs to use the thing hand held one minute and table
mounted the next. One needs to swap bits often. One need to make both
gross and small depth changes.
Here again, just for Ray, is why the 1613EVS is not the router to buy
for use in a table:
1) The metal hole in the base is small. You can't run bits larger
than about 1.75" in diameter.
Now before anyone says that you can run them completely below
the metal base - you can't - at least not safely. With the router
plunged most of the way down you can't get to the collet with the
wrench (template guide knob gets in the way to boot). So, you have
the router retracted some when you install the bit and chances are
you won't have enough shank in the collet. And even if you did,
you'd still have to mess with secondary table tops in order to make
multiple passes.
Many people use table mounting specifically for panel raising, so
this disqualifies the 1613 right off the bat.
2) While the built-in micro-adjuster is great for adjustments over a
total range of 5/8", larger depth adjustments require you to release
the lock lever and push the router to the desired depth. Under a
table, this is often awkward. The lock lever is spring loaded,
making this adjustment even harder.
There are better routers for table use, and there are better routers
for all-around use. I like the 1613EVS for hand held use, but I've
got other routers for other uses.
- Bennett Leeds
ben...@mv.us.adobe.com
Janusz R. Mrozek
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Thanks, Bennett, for the detail about why you do not like the 1613EVS for
under-table use. Do you (Bennett or otherwise) have any preferences for "all-around"
use, for someone who wants to own one router? I have no interest in doing paneled
doors, or other stuff that requires huge bits. I think I would use the router 75%
in the table and 25% hand-held, in the long run. In the short run I would use it
100% hand held, until I get to building a router table, or get a router table
addition for whatever table saw I eventually get.
Yeah, well, I like this hobby, so maybe I should plan on getting a good hand held
router now, and figure on getting a second one for the eventual table, but I can't
help it, one router seems like enough. Maybe I'm just cheap.
John Farinelli
: That's because you don't change bits and don't mess with the height
: adjustments. You use them as dedicated one-purpose machines.
: In a typical home shop, with likely just one router, one needs ease of
: flexibility. One needs to use the thing hand held one minute and table
: mounted the next. One needs to swap bits often. One need to make both
: gross and small depth changes.
: Here again, just for Ray, is why the 1613EVS is not the router to buy
: for use in a table:
: 1) The metal hole in the base is small. You can't run bits larger
: than about 1.75" in diameter.
: Now before anyone says that you can run them completely below
: the metal base - you can't - at least not safely. With the router
: plunged most of the way down you can't get to the collet with the
: wrench (template guide knob gets in the way to boot). So, you have
: the router retracted some when you install the bit and chances are
: you won't have enough shank in the collet. And even if you did,
: you'd still have to mess with secondary table tops in order to make
: multiple passes.
: Many people use table mounting specifically for panel raising, so
: this disqualifies the 1613 right off the bat.
I could not agree more strongly. I don't know why the 1615EVS has a nice large
hole in the base while the 1613EVS does not.
In any event, what are other choices for in table routers that can
handle large bits and still be flexible enough to use handheld ?
RPeters180
adjustment knob facing you. I use mine exclusively in my table because I
do not like it as a free-hand plunge router. The plunge action is sticky
because of the way that the plunge colums are machined. For the smoothest
plunge action, you cannot beat the DeWalt.
Kevin W. Tucker
Try lubricating your plunge posts - I think my Bosch plunges smoother than my
friend's DeWalt and I have never had problems with "sticky" plunge action - I
just had to get used to that plunge lever...
Kevin
New World Man
Mine too is about 1-2 years old, and sticks slightly on the plunge.
It is usually not when I go at it with any ammount of force,
but when I'm trying to do really delicate plunges, and it seems like
maybe I didn't pull the lever ALL the way over.
So I pull it as much as it will go then push down and WHAMMO!
It unsticks and dependind on the bit (last time it was a 1/2"
while I was trying to do a 'slightly larger than 1/2" hole')
it can really mess up your intended cut.
I too would love to eliminate this tendancy.
I will experiment, and follow your thread closely.
jeffrey green
hau...@mbi.org
>From: ben...@mv.us.adobe.com(Bennett Leeds)
>Subject: Re: Bosch 1613 EVS router
>Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 21:03:43 GMT
>John Farinelli writes
>> Bennett Leeds (ben...@mv.us.adobe.com) wrote:
>>:...
>Because the 1613 uses a new click-in template guide system that's
>actually pretty cool, and the older 1615 does not.
>DeWalt 625/Elu 3339 top the list. If you don't need all out power, the
>older 3338s are over 2HP, lighter, but really hard to find today.
Bennett, I'm so proud of you! You actually talked about the 1613 without even
mentioning the word 'robust'.
Rich
Kevin W. Tucker
Come to think of it, that's the only time that mine "sticks" - not that
it's really sticking, just that you do have to make sure that the lever
is fully pulled. Maybe we could carve a new handle for it? ;D
Kevin