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-MIKE-
Oct 22, 2017, 8:03:47 PM10/22/17
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I have a client who wants a couple custom baby/dog gates in their home.
One of them is at the bottom of a walled staircase and the gate will
have to swing around 270° to the other side of the wall.
Here's an illustration of the set-up:
http://www.mikedrums.com/Gate_Hinge_Pic.PNG
I've seen a lot of 270° hinges for cabinets, but they are all designed
to be mounted on a 3/4" cabinet box, while this will have to be mounted
on a 5" sheetrock wall end.
Keep in mind that it needs to be somewhat stylish. I'm building the
baby gates to match the existing stair rail that is stained wood with
white balusters. So something like wrought iron or oiled bronze is what
I'm going for.
My first exploration leads me to perhaps consider exterior gate hardware
or exterior shutter hinges.
Hinge suggestions, anyone?
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
One of them is at the bottom of a walled staircase and the gate will
have to swing around 270° to the other side of the wall.
Here's an illustration of the set-up:
http://www.mikedrums.com/Gate_Hinge_Pic.PNG
I've seen a lot of 270° hinges for cabinets, but they are all designed
to be mounted on a 3/4" cabinet box, while this will have to be mounted
on a 5" sheetrock wall end.
Keep in mind that it needs to be somewhat stylish. I'm building the
baby gates to match the existing stair rail that is stained wood with
white balusters. So something like wrought iron or oiled bronze is what
I'm going for.
My first exploration leads me to perhaps consider exterior gate hardware
or exterior shutter hinges.
Hinge suggestions, anyone?
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
cl...@snyder.on.ca
Oct 22, 2017, 8:20:46 PM10/22/17
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On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 19:03:41 -0500, -MIKE- <mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com>
wrote:
>I have a client who wants a couple custom baby/dog gates in their home.
>One of them is at the bottom of a walled staircase and the gate will
>have to swing around 270° to the other side of the wall.
>
>Here's an illustration of the set-up:
>http://www.mikedrums.com/Gate_Hinge_Pic.PNG
>
>I've seen a lot of 270° hinges for cabinets, but they are all designed
>to be mounted on a 3/4" cabinet box, while this will have to be mounted
>on a 5" sheetrock wall end.
>
>Keep in mind that it needs to be somewhat stylish. I'm building the
>baby gates to match the existing stair rail that is stained wood with
>white balusters. So something like wrought iron or oiled bronze is what
>I'm going for.
>
>My first exploration leads me to perhaps consider exterior gate hardware
>or exterior shutter hinges.
>
>Hinge suggestions, anyone?
Modified strrap hinge, bent so the pivot is in the center of the gate
and tangential to the wall corner. I can provide more detail by email
if you want (a sketch)
wrote:
>I have a client who wants a couple custom baby/dog gates in their home.
>One of them is at the bottom of a walled staircase and the gate will
>have to swing around 270° to the other side of the wall.
>
>Here's an illustration of the set-up:
>http://www.mikedrums.com/Gate_Hinge_Pic.PNG
>
>I've seen a lot of 270° hinges for cabinets, but they are all designed
>to be mounted on a 3/4" cabinet box, while this will have to be mounted
>on a 5" sheetrock wall end.
>
>Keep in mind that it needs to be somewhat stylish. I'm building the
>baby gates to match the existing stair rail that is stained wood with
>white balusters. So something like wrought iron or oiled bronze is what
>I'm going for.
>
>My first exploration leads me to perhaps consider exterior gate hardware
>or exterior shutter hinges.
>
>Hinge suggestions, anyone?
and tangential to the wall corner. I can provide more detail by email
if you want (a sketch)
-MIKE-
Oct 22, 2017, 8:24:54 PM10/22/17
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sketch if you'd like.
Thanks!
mike @ the domain in my sig below.
DerbyDad03
Oct 22, 2017, 9:21:09 PM10/22/17
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On Sunday, October 22, 2017 at 8:03:47 PM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote:
> I have a client who wants a couple custom baby/dog gates in their home.
> One of them is at the bottom of a walled staircase and the gate will
> have to swing around 270° to the other side of the wall.
>
> Here's an illustration of the set-up:
> http://www.mikedrums.com/Gate_Hinge_Pic.PNG
>
> I've seen a lot of 270° hinges for cabinets, but they are all designed
> to be mounted on a 3/4" cabinet box, while this will have to be mounted
> on a 5" sheetrock wall end.
>
> Keep in mind that it needs to be somewhat stylish. I'm building the
> baby gates to match the existing stair rail that is stained wood with
> white balusters. So something like wrought iron or oiled bronze is what
> I'm going for.
>
> My first exploration leads me to perhaps consider exterior gate hardware
> or exterior shutter hinges.
>
> Hinge suggestions, anyone?
>
>
Stick with me on this one...
> I have a client who wants a couple custom baby/dog gates in their home.
> One of them is at the bottom of a walled staircase and the gate will
> have to swing around 270° to the other side of the wall.
>
> Here's an illustration of the set-up:
> http://www.mikedrums.com/Gate_Hinge_Pic.PNG
>
> I've seen a lot of 270° hinges for cabinets, but they are all designed
> to be mounted on a 3/4" cabinet box, while this will have to be mounted
> on a 5" sheetrock wall end.
>
> Keep in mind that it needs to be somewhat stylish. I'm building the
> baby gates to match the existing stair rail that is stained wood with
> white balusters. So something like wrought iron or oiled bronze is what
> I'm going for.
>
> My first exploration leads me to perhaps consider exterior gate hardware
> or exterior shutter hinges.
>
> Hinge suggestions, anyone?
>
>
You can submit a picture of a hinge via this website and they will try to
identify it and see if they have it in stock. Now, I know that you don't
have a hinge to take a picture of, but based on how helpful they were
when I needed to match a hinge on a hutch I bought at an antiques dealer,
I'll bet that they would be willing to try and find a hinge for your needs.
http://www.hardwaresource.com/hinge-resource-center/contact-us/
I traded emails with a guy named Dominick from hardwaresource.com for a couple
of days before we settled on a set of hinges that would work for me based on
the hinges I had and a description of how it mounted. Maybe he/they can help
you, even though you don't actually have a hinge, but you do have the drawing
of the desired application.
I'm not going to post his email address in plain text but I will say this:
Dom is a common nickname for Dominick.
Dom works *at* HardwareSource.com
If you want to follow the normal route, you can attach your picture and
include a message at the link I posted above.
-MIKE-
Oct 22, 2017, 9:24:32 PM10/22/17
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I've already been all over their site and was getting ready to email
this pic to them. :-)
No kidding.
DerbyDad03
Oct 22, 2017, 10:56:48 PM10/22/17
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whit3rd
Oct 22, 2017, 11:10:57 PM10/22/17
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On Sunday, October 22, 2017 at 5:03:47 PM UTC-7, -MIKE- wrote:
> I have a client who wants a couple custom baby/dog gates in their home.
> One of them is at the bottom of a walled staircase and the gate will
> have to swing around 270° to the other side of the wall.
So, you want a pin-and-eye hinge. Mount pins, centered, to the door, and
> I have a client who wants a couple custom baby/dog gates in their home.
> One of them is at the bottom of a walled staircase and the gate will
> have to swing around 270° to the other side of the wall.
the eye has to come out of the edge of the wall... get a steel
or aluminum ell section, drill/tap for the threaded-rod eye mount.
picture here:
<https://goo.gl/images/PvNg5o>
cl...@snyder.on.ca
Oct 22, 2017, 11:32:39 PM10/22/17
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On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 20:24:28 -0500, -MIKE- <mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com>
wrote:
The design I have submitted to Mike is very much like a heavy duty
storm shutter hinge based roughly on the design of the hinges I made
for a flush-fitting overhead hinged door I made for my shed attic
(loft door) which I fashioned from a couple of steel angle braces and
a few bolts
wrote:
storm shutter hinge based roughly on the design of the hinges I made
for a flush-fitting overhead hinged door I made for my shed attic
(loft door) which I fashioned from a couple of steel angle braces and
a few bolts
cl...@snyder.on.ca
Oct 22, 2017, 11:39:17 PM10/22/17
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On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 20:24:28 -0500, -MIKE- <mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com>
wrote:
wrote:
degree overlay hinge"
-MIKE-
Oct 22, 2017, 11:59:03 PM10/22/17
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I like your idea and it's definitely a top option for me right now.
cl...@snyder.on.ca
Oct 23, 2017, 12:04:45 AM10/23/17
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On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 22:59:01 -0500, -MIKE- <mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com>
Glad to be of help - I can't make use of all my ideas myself, so I'm
happy to pass them on .
happy to pass them on .
G Ross
Oct 23, 2017, 7:43:15 AM10/23/17
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fastened to the wall and the pins fit in holes in the top and bottom
rails of the gate. You could lift it off when you didn't need it, if
you always wanted it in place you put the top pin upside down into the
hole. To make it a 270 hinge, the pin would have to project out from
the corner.
--
G Ross
whit3rd
Oct 23, 2017, 4:23:06 PM10/23/17
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On Monday, October 23, 2017 at 4:43:15 AM UTC-7, G Ross wrote:
> whit3rd wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 22, 2017 at 5:03:47 PM UTC-7, -MIKE- wrote:
> > So, you want a pin-and-eye hinge. Mount pins, centered, to the door, and
> > the eye has to come out of the edge of the wall...
> whit3rd wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 22, 2017 at 5:03:47 PM UTC-7, -MIKE- wrote:
> > So, you want a pin-and-eye hinge. Mount pins, centered, to the door, and
> > the eye has to come out of the edge of the wall...
> picture here:
> <https://goo.gl/images/PvNg5o>
> That is similar to the hinges on my last dog gate. The pin part
> fastened to the wall and the pins fit in holes in the top and bottom
> rails of the gate. You could lift it off when you didn't need it, if
> you always wanted it in place you put the top pin upside down into the
> hole. To make it a 270 hinge, the pin would have to project out from
> the corner.
The 'eye' on the depicted unit is not something that can be mortised
> <https://goo.gl/images/PvNg5o>
> That is similar to the hinges on my last dog gate. The pin part
> fastened to the wall and the pins fit in holes in the top and bottom
> rails of the gate. You could lift it off when you didn't need it, if
> you always wanted it in place you put the top pin upside down into the
> hole. To make it a 270 hinge, the pin would have to project out from
> the corner.
into the door edge, but the pin is.
Mounting the pins to the door is workable, and the eyes are going to
have to corner-mount on (apparently) a finished wall, not
a post or door jamb. The pivot point for the hinge just has to hang
out of that corner, but it's gonna take some carpentry or metal
work to make it do so.
Leon
Oct 24, 2017, 4:22:06 PM10/24/17
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On 10/22/2017 7:03 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> I have a client who wants a couple custom baby/dog gates in their home.
> One of them is at the bottom of a walled staircase and the gate will
> have to swing around 270° to the other side of the wall.
>
> Here's an illustration of the set-up:
> http://www.mikedrums.com/Gate_Hinge_Pic.PNG
>
> I've seen a lot of 270° hinges for cabinets, but they are all designed
> to be mounted on a 3/4" cabinet box, while this will have to be mounted
> on a 5" sheetrock wall end.
>
> Keep in mind that it needs to be somewhat stylish. I'm building the
> baby gates to match the existing stair rail that is stained wood with
> white balusters. So something like wrought iron or oiled bronze is what
> I'm going for.
>
> My first exploration leads me to perhaps consider exterior gate hardware
> or exterior shutter hinges.
>
> Hinge suggestions, anyone?
>
>
The Euro Style hinges will do that IIRC. Check the BLUM web site.
> I have a client who wants a couple custom baby/dog gates in their home.
> One of them is at the bottom of a walled staircase and the gate will
> have to swing around 270° to the other side of the wall.
>
> Here's an illustration of the set-up:
> http://www.mikedrums.com/Gate_Hinge_Pic.PNG
>
> I've seen a lot of 270° hinges for cabinets, but they are all designed
> to be mounted on a 3/4" cabinet box, while this will have to be mounted
> on a 5" sheetrock wall end.
>
> Keep in mind that it needs to be somewhat stylish. I'm building the
> baby gates to match the existing stair rail that is stained wood with
> white balusters. So something like wrought iron or oiled bronze is what
> I'm going for.
>
> My first exploration leads me to perhaps consider exterior gate hardware
> or exterior shutter hinges.
>
> Hinge suggestions, anyone?
>
>
-MIKE-
Oct 24, 2017, 5:07:37 PM10/24/17
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1. They mount on a 3/4" surface of wood. I'm dealing with 1/2" of
drywall on the studs so the positioning wouldn't work.
2. I'm trying to use something decorative as opposed to just
functional, since it will always be seen.
OFWW
Oct 28, 2017, 12:02:05 AM10/28/17
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On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 19:03:41 -0500, -MIKE- <mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com>
wrote:
wrote:
>I have a client who wants a couple custom baby/dog gates in their home.
>One of them is at the bottom of a walled staircase and the gate will
>have to swing around 270° to the other side of the wall.
>
>Here's an illustration of the set-up:
>http://www.mikedrums.com/Gate_Hinge_Pic.PNG
>
>I've seen a lot of 270° hinges for cabinets, but they are all designed
>to be mounted on a 3/4" cabinet box, while this will have to be mounted
>on a 5" sheetrock wall end.
>
>Keep in mind that it needs to be somewhat stylish. I'm building the
>baby gates to match the existing stair rail that is stained wood with
>white balusters. So something like wrought iron or oiled bronze is what
>I'm going for.
>
>My first exploration leads me to perhaps consider exterior gate hardware
>or exterior shutter hinges.
>
>Hinge suggestions, anyone?
How about anchoring a board 3/4" x 5" by ?" height on the end of the
>One of them is at the bottom of a walled staircase and the gate will
>have to swing around 270° to the other side of the wall.
>
>Here's an illustration of the set-up:
>http://www.mikedrums.com/Gate_Hinge_Pic.PNG
>
>I've seen a lot of 270° hinges for cabinets, but they are all designed
>to be mounted on a 3/4" cabinet box, while this will have to be mounted
>on a 5" sheetrock wall end.
>
>Keep in mind that it needs to be somewhat stylish. I'm building the
>baby gates to match the existing stair rail that is stained wood with
>white balusters. So something like wrought iron or oiled bronze is what
>I'm going for.
>
>My first exploration leads me to perhaps consider exterior gate hardware
>or exterior shutter hinges.
>
>Hinge suggestions, anyone?
wall, stylized to the gate. Then attach your hardware to that for a
rock solid setup?
-MIKE-
Oct 28, 2017, 1:10:00 AM10/28/17
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DerbyDad03
Oct 28, 2017, 9:26:11 AM10/28/17
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On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 1:10:00 AM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 10/27/17 11:02 PM, OFWW wrote:
> > On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 19:03:41 -0500, -MIKE- <mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I have a client who wants a couple custom baby/dog gates in their home.
> >> One of them is at the bottom of a walled staircase and the gate will
> >> have to swing around 270° to the other side of the wall.
> >>
> >> Here's an illustration of the set-up:
> >> http://www.mikedrums.com/Gate_Hinge_Pic.PNG
> >>
> >> I've seen a lot of 270° hinges for cabinets, but they are all designed
> >> to be mounted on a 3/4" cabinet box, while this will have to be mounted
> >> on a 5" sheetrock wall end.
> >>
> >> Keep in mind that it needs to be somewhat stylish. I'm building the
> >> baby gates to match the existing stair rail that is stained wood with
> >> white balusters. So something like wrought iron or oiled bronze is what
> >> I'm going for.
> >>
> >> My first exploration leads me to perhaps consider exterior gate hardware
> >> or exterior shutter hinges.
> >>
> >> Hinge suggestions, anyone?
> >
> > How about anchoring a board 3/4" x 5" by ?" height on the end of the
> > wall, stylized to the gate. Then attach your hardware to that for a
> > rock solid setup?
> >
>
> That's my backup plan.
Mounting the hinge on a piece of wood...backup plan. I get it! ;-)
> On 10/27/17 11:02 PM, OFWW wrote:
> > On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 19:03:41 -0500, -MIKE- <mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I have a client who wants a couple custom baby/dog gates in their home.
> >> One of them is at the bottom of a walled staircase and the gate will
> >> have to swing around 270° to the other side of the wall.
> >>
> >> Here's an illustration of the set-up:
> >> http://www.mikedrums.com/Gate_Hinge_Pic.PNG
> >>
> >> I've seen a lot of 270° hinges for cabinets, but they are all designed
> >> to be mounted on a 3/4" cabinet box, while this will have to be mounted
> >> on a 5" sheetrock wall end.
> >>
> >> Keep in mind that it needs to be somewhat stylish. I'm building the
> >> baby gates to match the existing stair rail that is stained wood with
> >> white balusters. So something like wrought iron or oiled bronze is what
> >> I'm going for.
> >>
> >> My first exploration leads me to perhaps consider exterior gate hardware
> >> or exterior shutter hinges.
> >>
> >> Hinge suggestions, anyone?
> >
> > How about anchoring a board 3/4" x 5" by ?" height on the end of the
> > wall, stylized to the gate. Then attach your hardware to that for a
> > rock solid setup?
> >
>
> That's my backup plan.
-MIKE-
Oct 28, 2017, 11:59:48 AM10/28/17
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-MIKE-
Nov 10, 2017, 4:12:46 PM11/10/17
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On 10/22/17 7:03 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> I have a client who wants a couple custom baby/dog gates in their home.
> One of them is at the bottom of a walled staircase and the gate will
> have to swing around 270° to the other side of the wall.
>
> Here's an illustration of the set-up:
> http://www.mikedrums.com/Gate_Hinge_Pic.PNG
>
> I've seen a lot of 270° hinges for cabinets, but they are all designed
> to be mounted on a 3/4" cabinet box, while this will have to be mounted
> on a 5" sheetrock wall end.
>
> Keep in mind that it needs to be somewhat stylish. I'm building the
> baby gates to match the existing stair rail that is stained wood with
> white balusters. So something like wrought iron or oiled bronze is what
> I'm going for.
>
> My first exploration leads me to perhaps consider exterior gate hardware
> or exterior shutter hinges.
>
> Hinge suggestions, anyone?
>
>
Here's what I went with. It's actually a hinge for shutters.
> I have a client who wants a couple custom baby/dog gates in their home.
> One of them is at the bottom of a walled staircase and the gate will
> have to swing around 270° to the other side of the wall.
>
> Here's an illustration of the set-up:
> http://www.mikedrums.com/Gate_Hinge_Pic.PNG
>
> I've seen a lot of 270° hinges for cabinets, but they are all designed
> to be mounted on a 3/4" cabinet box, while this will have to be mounted
> on a 5" sheetrock wall end.
>
> Keep in mind that it needs to be somewhat stylish. I'm building the
> baby gates to match the existing stair rail that is stained wood with
> white balusters. So something like wrought iron or oiled bronze is what
> I'm going for.
>
> My first exploration leads me to perhaps consider exterior gate hardware
> or exterior shutter hinges.
>
> Hinge suggestions, anyone?
>
>
http://mikedrums.com/shutter_hinge_composite.PNG
Not cheap, but super strong, fits the requested styling, and allows for
easy "lift off" of the baby gate.
Now, to build this silly thing. :-)
hub...@ccanoemail.ca
Nov 10, 2017, 4:28:44 PM11/10/17
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On Fri, 10 Nov 2017 15:12:42 -0600, -MIKE- <mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com>
wrote:
>On 10/22/17 7:03 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> I have a client who wants a couple custom baby/dog gates in their home.
>> One of them is at the bottom of a walled staircase and the gate will
>> have to swing around 270° to the other side of the wall.
>>
>> Here's an illustration of the set-up:
>> http://www.mikedrums.com/Gate_Hinge_Pic.PNG
>>
>> I've seen a lot of 270° hinges for cabinets, but they are all designed
>> to be mounted on a 3/4" cabinet box, while this will have to be mounted
>> on a 5" sheetrock wall end.
>>
>> Keep in mind that it needs to be somewhat stylish. I'm building the
>> baby gates to match the existing stair rail that is stained wood with
>> white balusters. So something like wrought iron or oiled bronze is what
>> I'm going for.
>>
>> My first exploration leads me to perhaps consider exterior gate hardware
>> or exterior shutter hinges.
>>
>> Hinge suggestions, anyone?
>>
>>
>
>Here's what I went with. It's actually a hinge for shutters.
>http://mikedrums.com/shutter_hinge_composite.PNG
>
>Not cheap, but super strong, fits the requested styling, and allows for
>easy "lift off" of the baby gate.
>
>Now, to build this silly thing. :-)
Ah-Hah ! .. once you know what to google - "shutter hinge" -
there is a world of possibilities ..
http://www.houseofantiquehardware.com/shutter-hinges
Good to know - even better to remember .. :-)
John T.
wrote:
>On 10/22/17 7:03 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> I have a client who wants a couple custom baby/dog gates in their home.
>> One of them is at the bottom of a walled staircase and the gate will
>> have to swing around 270° to the other side of the wall.
>>
>> Here's an illustration of the set-up:
>> http://www.mikedrums.com/Gate_Hinge_Pic.PNG
>>
>> I've seen a lot of 270° hinges for cabinets, but they are all designed
>> to be mounted on a 3/4" cabinet box, while this will have to be mounted
>> on a 5" sheetrock wall end.
>>
>> Keep in mind that it needs to be somewhat stylish. I'm building the
>> baby gates to match the existing stair rail that is stained wood with
>> white balusters. So something like wrought iron or oiled bronze is what
>> I'm going for.
>>
>> My first exploration leads me to perhaps consider exterior gate hardware
>> or exterior shutter hinges.
>>
>> Hinge suggestions, anyone?
>>
>>
>
>Here's what I went with. It's actually a hinge for shutters.
>http://mikedrums.com/shutter_hinge_composite.PNG
>
>Not cheap, but super strong, fits the requested styling, and allows for
>easy "lift off" of the baby gate.
>
>Now, to build this silly thing. :-)
there is a world of possibilities ..
http://www.houseofantiquehardware.com/shutter-hinges
Good to know - even better to remember .. :-)
John T.
-MIKE-
Nov 10, 2017, 5:20:35 PM11/10/17
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finding a better option for me, here...
https://jwright.com
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