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mkr5000

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Mar 18, 2012, 8:43:18 AM3/18/12
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I wouldn't ask but I've Googled this to death and nothing. Plenty of places that sell plastic furniture and products but no info on raw materials.

Where do you but this HDPE lumber (in Midwest)?

A place that stocks, with a variety of shapes and colors.

I know I can get deck board but that's not what I'm after. THANKS.

DanG

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Mar 18, 2012, 9:29:24 AM3/18/12
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I think you are confused. Plastic furniture parts are not usually made
from sheets, planks, or sticks of material. The individual parts are
normally cast, injected, or extruded and are unique to each particular
product.

You've not indicated what it is you are trying to make, but you will not
find a source for what I think you're after.

If your needs can be met with acrylic or Lexan, then go to a plastic
supplier like:
Cope
http://www.copeplastics.com/

Another possibility would be to purchase sheets from toilet partition
folks like:
http://www.scrantonproducts.com/#

Man made counter tops are a type of plastic also:
http://solidsurface.com/


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Gordon Shumway

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Mar 18, 2012, 10:25:08 AM3/18/12
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On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 05:43:18 -0700 (PDT), mkr5000 <mike...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I'm not sure HDPE is what you're wanting. If you want plastic
"lumber" you may be looking for products made from PVC. My small-town
lumber yard stocks products made by http://www.versatex.com/. I'm
sure there are many other vendors out there.

dpb

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Mar 18, 2012, 10:44:44 AM3/18/12
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On 3/18/2012 7:43 AM, mkr5000 wrote:
What, specifically, _are_ you after?

Normal lumber yards stock (or can get) products from Azek, Versatex or
one of the other manufacturers of structural/trim lumber replacement
products.(+) As was noted elsewhere, most of these are PVC, not HDPE
(which will be quite expensive in any volume) if that's what you're
looking for. If you really are looking for the cast parts from which
many products are made as individual assemblies, there you're probably
out of luck unless you want to buy them by the car (or container) load
direct from the manufacturer.

Or, try Outwater

<http://www.outwatercatalogs.com/home/index.cfm>


(+) If you're not positive what these are, Fine Homebuilding
(www.taunton.com indirectly) did a comparison article some couple or
three years ago that compared the various products. While similar,
they're not all made alike and have different characteristics depending
on the fabrication technique and materials.

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tiredofspam

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Mar 18, 2012, 11:41:41 AM3/18/12
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You are after the smooth stuff on both sides?

I was unable to come up with a source for a small amount. My SWMBO
wanted a table / umbrella stand (small about 24 " ) for around the pool.
The material is perfect because of the weight. I wound up using TREX
deck board because no one would sell small amounts of the smooth stuff.

Once I started laying it out, she wanted the wood grained side anyway.
So I got lucky.

The stuff works well, but I had problems with screws in endgrain
breaking the pieces. I used liquid nails for all joints with SS screws.
Clamp before driving a screw in endgrain to prevent it from splitting,
of course predrill too.

Kenefick

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Mar 18, 2012, 12:59:15 PM3/18/12
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Humph! My brother built his deck with the plastic lumber. His looks
okay to me. I expected he got it from HD or Lowes, AKA a common
"hardware" store. But we do have Carter's and a few other lumber only
places around Central Ohio. He is asleep know. He will be awake in a
few hours.

Mike in Ohio

On 3/18/2012 8:43 AM, mkr5000 wrote:

mkr5000

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Mar 18, 2012, 2:31:52 PM3/18/12
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http://www.polywoodinc.com/faq.html

This doesn't look like cast material to me and I'm not after PVC -- it's HDPE.

I'm starting to think that they're making these products out of custom HDPE sheet and then cutting to size.

mkr5000

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Mar 18, 2012, 2:29:25 PM3/18/12
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This doesn't look precast to me --

http://www.polywoodinc.com/faq.html

Don't want to use deck boards -- perhaps these guys are using HDPE SHEET and cutting it to size.

I know you do custom colors in HDPE.

PVC is not what I meant or what I'm after.

dpb

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Mar 18, 2012, 2:35:17 PM3/18/12
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Well, if that is what you're after, why

1) didn't you say so in the beginning, and

2) from the link you posted--

> Where can I buy POLYWOOD™?
> POLYWOOD™ dealers can be found using the dealer locator.

which is a live link...

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Mike Marlow

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Mar 18, 2012, 2:57:38 PM3/18/12
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Did you put your zip code into the dealer locator on the web page you posted
here?

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dpb

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Mar 18, 2012, 2:59:35 PM3/18/12
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Why don't you start to think they manufacture the product from recycled
plastics for themselves like their web site says they do?

It appears to me they make parts for themselves; whether they do or
would sell material other than as furniture is indeterminate afaict from
the web site.

I suggest you contact them directly and ask if that's what you want.

AFAIK there isn't another; this is the first I've seen the actual
product altho I do recall some hype about the recycling possibilities
some years ago hadn't ever seen any result(s) therefrom...

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CW

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Mar 18, 2012, 4:33:56 PM3/18/12
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"dpb" wrote in message news:jk5bam$oea$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
=============================================================
There are two more. Renew and Trimax.
http://www.renewplastics.com/
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CW

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Mar 18, 2012, 4:42:51 PM3/18/12
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Found another one. Polyforce.
http://www.belson.com/rpsl.htm

CW

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"CW" wrote in message
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===============================================================
I keep finding more. Rather than list them, just Google recycled structural
plastic.

Richard

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Mar 18, 2012, 6:45:57 PM3/18/12
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On 3/18/2012 7:43 AM, mkr5000 wrote:
Where is this "Midwest" you refer to?

Do you mean that north east corner of the US??

I tend to thing of Texas, Kansas, Colorado, Nebraska, etc as "MID", so
maybe Arizona, Utah, Idaho would be "Midwest" now.


As for HDPE, I think you might find what you want at Regal Plastics
(Texas) http://www.regal-plastics.com/


Gordon Shumway

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Mar 18, 2012, 7:33:14 PM3/18/12
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On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 17:45:57 -0500, Richard <cave...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
Richard, don't be a dick! DAGS.

Swingman

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Mar 18, 2012, 7:35:28 PM3/18/12
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On 3/18/2012 4:45 PM, Richard wrote:
> On 3/18/2012 7:43 AM, mkr5000 wrote:
>> I wouldn't ask but I've Googled this to death and nothing. Plenty of
>> places that sell plastic furniture and products but no info on raw
>> materials.
>>
>> Where do you but this HDPE lumber (in Midwest)?
>>
>> A place that stocks, with a variety of shapes and colors.
>>
>> I know I can get deck board but that's not what I'm after. THANKS.
>
>
> Where is this "Midwest" you refer to?
>
> Do you mean that north east corner of the US??
>
> I tend to thing of Texas, Kansas, Colorado, Nebraska, etc as "MID", so
> maybe Arizona, Utah, Idaho would be "Midwest" now.

The "Midwest is historically:

Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri,
Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, South Dakota and Wisconsin.

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Richard

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Mar 18, 2012, 7:38:46 PM3/18/12
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On 3/18/2012 6:35 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 3/18/2012 4:45 PM, Richard wrote:
>> On 3/18/2012 7:43 AM, mkr5000 wrote:
>>> I wouldn't ask but I've Googled this to death and nothing. Plenty of
>>> places that sell plastic furniture and products but no info on raw
>>> materials.
>>>
>>> Where do you but this HDPE lumber (in Midwest)?
>>>
>>> A place that stocks, with a variety of shapes and colors.
>>>
>>> I know I can get deck board but that's not what I'm after. THANKS.
>>
>>
>> Where is this "Midwest" you refer to?
>>
>> Do you mean that north east corner of the US??
>>
>> I tend to thing of Texas, Kansas, Colorado, Nebraska, etc as "MID", so
>> maybe Arizona, Utah, Idaho would be "Midwest" now.
>
> The "Midwest is historically:
>
> Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri,
> Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, South Dakota and Wisconsin.
>

Yeah yeah yeah.

That was then. This is now...


Bill

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Mar 18, 2012, 7:38:56 PM3/18/12
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Swingman wrote:
> On 3/18/2012 4:45 PM, Richard wrote:
>> On 3/18/2012 7:43 AM, mkr5000 wrote:
>>> I wouldn't ask but I've Googled this to death and nothing. Plenty of
>>> places that sell plastic furniture and products but no info on raw
>>> materials.
>>>
>>> Where do you but this HDPE lumber (in Midwest)?
>>>
>>> A place that stocks, with a variety of shapes and colors.
>>>
>>> I know I can get deck board but that's not what I'm after. THANKS.
>>
>>
>> Where is this "Midwest" you refer to?
>>
>> Do you mean that north east corner of the US??
>>
>> I tend to thing of Texas, Kansas, Colorado, Nebraska, etc as "MID", so
>> maybe Arizona, Utah, Idaho would be "Midwest" now.
>
> The "Midwest is historically:
>
> Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri,
> Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, South Dakota and Wisconsin.
>

Are you going to site a reference for that? ; ) My "midwest" never
went that far north.

Richard

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Mar 18, 2012, 7:47:15 PM3/18/12
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Google USA MAP.


But yes, I suppose you are right.
That would properly be mid north?

:^)

Gordon Shumway

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Mar 18, 2012, 7:55:59 PM3/18/12
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On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 18:38:46 -0500, Richard <cave...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
Huh?

Richard, you're still being a dick!

Doug Winterburn

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Mar 18, 2012, 8:03:59 PM3/18/12
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This is now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midwestern_United_States



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John McGaw

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Mar 18, 2012, 8:25:54 PM3/18/12
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On 3/18/2012 8:43 AM, mkr5000 wrote:
Find a manufacturer who makes what you want (Google for 'HDPE plastic
lumber') and once you locate one or two ask THEM who sells it within your
area. This is far easier than going from the other direction. Sales people
are usually eager to tell you where to buy their products and I've even
known them go arrange free samples if I acted nice - I've scored free
'Lyptus' lumber, loads of hardware, paint, finishes, glue, tools, and other
goodies after talking to sales critters.

Swingman

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Mar 18, 2012, 9:04:02 PM3/18/12
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On 3/18/2012 5:38 PM, Bill wrote:
> Swingman wrote:

>> The "Midwest is historically:
>>
>> Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri,
>> Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, South Dakota and Wisconsin.
>>
>
> Are you going to site a reference for that? ; ) My "midwest" never went
> that far north.

DAGS.

Richard

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Mar 18, 2012, 9:13:56 PM3/18/12
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And?

Richard

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Mar 18, 2012, 9:14:46 PM3/18/12
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On 3/18/2012 7:03 PM, Doug Winterburn wrote:
> On 03/18/2012 04:38 PM, Richard wrote:
>> On 3/18/2012 6:35 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>> On 3/18/2012 4:45 PM, Richard wrote:
>>>> On 3/18/2012 7:43 AM, mkr5000 wrote:
>>>>> I wouldn't ask but I've Googled this to death and nothing. Plenty of
>>>>> places that sell plastic furniture and products but no info on raw
>>>>> materials.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where do you but this HDPE lumber (in Midwest)?
>>>>>
>>>>> A place that stocks, with a variety of shapes and colors.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know I can get deck board but that's not what I'm after. THANKS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where is this "Midwest" you refer to?
>>>>
>>>> Do you mean that north east corner of the US??
>>>>
>>>> I tend to thing of Texas, Kansas, Colorado, Nebraska, etc as "MID", so
>>>> maybe Arizona, Utah, Idaho would be "Midwest" now.
>>>
>>> The "Midwest is historically:
>>>
>>> Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri,
>>> Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, South Dakota and Wisconsin.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah yeah yeah.
>>
>> That was then. This is now...
>>
>>
> This is now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midwestern_United_States
>
>
>
Yep. Made a lot of sens 100 years ago!

Doug Winterburn

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Mar 18, 2012, 9:29:15 PM3/18/12
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Well, you can define it any way you want, but don't be surprised when
people don't know WTF you're talking about.

Keith Nuttle

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Mar 18, 2012, 9:37:47 PM3/18/12
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On 3/18/2012 8:03 PM, Doug Winterburn wrote:
> On 03/18/2012 04:38 PM, Richard wrote:
>> On 3/18/2012 6:35 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>> On 3/18/2012 4:45 PM, Richard wrote:
>>>> On 3/18/2012 7:43 AM, mkr5000 wrote:
>>>>> I wouldn't ask but I've Googled this to death and nothing. Plenty of
>>>>> places that sell plastic furniture and products but no info on raw
>>>>> materials.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where do you but this HDPE lumber (in Midwest)?
>>>>>
>>>>> A place that stocks, with a variety of shapes and colors.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know I can get deck board but that's not what I'm after. THANKS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where is this "Midwest" you refer to?
>>>>
>>>> Do you mean that north east corner of the US??
>>>>
>>>> I tend to thing of Texas, Kansas, Colorado, Nebraska, etc as "MID", so
>>>> maybe Arizona, Utah, Idaho would be "Midwest" now.
>>>
>>> The "Midwest is historically:
>>>
>>> Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri,
>>> Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, South Dakota and Wisconsin.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah yeah yeah.
>>
>> That was then. This is now...
>>
>>
> This is now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midwestern_United_States
>
>
>

I ran into a head hunter once, who refered to the Indiana, Michigan,
Ohio, Illinois areas as the mid-east, vs the mid-west Iowa, Kansas,
Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota and Wisconsin.

Makes logical sense.

Mike Marlow

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Mar 18, 2012, 9:46:13 PM3/18/12
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Huh? How do you figure that?

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Mike Marlow

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Mar 18, 2012, 9:47:34 PM3/18/12
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Richard wrote:

>>
> Yep. Made a lot of sens 100 years ago!

And it would not make sense now? For what possible reason? Was there a big
earthquake that I missed, that changed the layout of the country?

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Martin Eastburn

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Mar 18, 2012, 10:46:42 PM3/18/12
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If you know a town near buy that has a Home Depot or Lowes
they sell several brands.

They also sell stuff on line. Wonder if you could order several
'boards' and have them delivered. Something to look into.

I bought a length for my weather station - out in the direct sun.

Martin

On 3/18/2012 10:41 AM, tiredofspam wrote:
> You are after the smooth stuff on both sides?
>
> I was unable to come up with a source for a small amount. My SWMBO
> wanted a table / umbrella stand (small about 24 " ) for around the pool.
> The material is perfect because of the weight. I wound up using TREX
> deck board because no one would sell small amounts of the smooth stuff.
>
> Once I started laying it out, she wanted the wood grained side anyway.
> So I got lucky.
>
> The stuff works well, but I had problems with screws in endgrain
> breaking the pieces. I used liquid nails for all joints with SS screws.
> Clamp before driving a screw in endgrain to prevent it from splitting,
> of course predrill too.

Richard

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Mar 18, 2012, 11:20:23 PM3/18/12
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Because "back then" it WAS the western extremity of the United States.

Now it's more mid eastern.

IF one were to actually look at a map some day...


Larry Jaques

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On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 05:43:18 -0700 (PDT), mkr5000 <mike...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>I wouldn't ask but I've Googled this to death and nothing. Plenty of places that sell plastic furniture and products but no info on raw materials.
>
>Where do you but this HDPE lumber (in Midwest)?
>
>A place that stocks, with a variety of shapes and colors.
>
>I know I can get deck board but that's not what I'm after. THANKS.

HD sells Azek here now, but it's PVC. What's "Midwest"?
What -are- you after? You stated HDPE, so you are probably thinking
about a brand. What brand? Have you called the mfgr? Do you want
virgin vinyl, PVC, composite, or what? What does your lumberyard man
who carries the decking say about it?

If you want sane answers, tell us what you searched for and why.
I searched for HDPE lumber and found dimensional lumber for decking.
MAXiTUF. Ask Resco.
http://rescoplastics.com/maxituf-engineering-specs

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Mike Marlow

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Mar 19, 2012, 7:02:07 AM3/19/12
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Richard wrote:

>
> Because "back then" it WAS the western extremity of the United States.
>
> Now it's more mid eastern.
>
> IF one were to actually look at a map some day...

If that were true, it would have been called "the west" back then. It
doesn't really matter how accurrate the term is or was, there is a standard
definition of what the term has always meant. Sorry if you don't like it.

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Leon

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Mar 19, 2012, 7:08:48 AM3/19/12
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BS it still is the location of MidWest.

Leon

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Mar 19, 2012, 7:10:57 AM3/19/12
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On 3/18/2012 8:47 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Richard wrote:
>
>>>
>> Yep. Made a lot of sens 100 years ago!
>
> And it would not make sense now? For what possible reason? Was there a big
> earthquake that I missed, that changed the layout of the country?
>

None of the states in "his" world are located now where they were 100
years ago.

Leon

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Mar 19, 2012, 7:13:31 AM3/19/12
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Gosh he must be 14 and not had a geography class yet. And the world IS
still flat.

Han

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Mar 19, 2012, 7:34:53 AM3/19/12
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Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:x6WdnWX1SthejvrS...@giganews.com:
<snip>
>>>> Where is this "Midwest" you refer to?
>>>>
>>>> Do you mean that north east corner of the US??
>>>>
>>>> I tend to thing of Texas, Kansas, Colorado, Nebraska, etc as "MID",
>>>> so maybe Arizona, Utah, Idaho would be "Midwest" now.
>>>
>>> The "Midwest is historically:
>>>
>>> Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri,
>>> Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, South Dakota and Wisconsin.
>>
>> Yeah yeah yeah.
>>
>> That was then. This is now...
>
> BS it still is the location of MidWest.

FWIW, I couldn't have exactly named the states of the "Midwest". But
that little map at wikipedia does help ... And I didn't know it was an
official region in the US census.

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mkr5000

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Mar 19, 2012, 9:41:56 AM3/19/12
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Thanks for some new names like Trimax and Polyforce -- I didn't see those.
Big minimums.


The "Midwest", by the way -- is home to TEN of the sweet 16 teams. (suck on that, rest of the country).

It starts in OHIO and ends in ST LOUIS.

Ever hear of the St Louis arch ? "The gateway to the west" ?

We also consider Iowa as part of the Midwest as they're in the Big 10 and they need "some" sort of label, or they get left out completely.

Indiana, Illinois, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa are the MIDWEST.

Richard

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Mar 19, 2012, 11:13:14 AM3/19/12
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Oh golly no. Not by a long shot, Mike.

I'm just fascinated by the psychology involved.

How ideas from long ago get set so well that they defy rational
thought.



Leon

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Mar 19, 2012, 2:36:27 PM3/19/12
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It is an old description of a region in the US. While it does not
necessarily reflect what you would assume not knowing the history of the
US it is similar to the region known as the Deep South, which is way
north of several areas in the US. Then there is the South West, which
is north west of half of Texas, The South which includes states that we
in Texas consider the North. ;~)

Pat Barber

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Mar 19, 2012, 2:36:47 PM3/19/12
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On 3/18/2012 5:43 AM, mkr5000 wrote:
> I wouldn't ask but I've Googled this to death and nothing. Plenty of places that sell plastic furniture and products but no info on raw materials.
>
> Where do you but this HDPE lumber (in Midwest)?
>
> A place that stocks, with a variety of shapes and colors.
>
> I know I can get deck board but that's not what I'm after. THANKS.

That depends on where in the world you might be, but here is a typical
plastic sheet product....

http://www.kingplastic.com/products/all-products/king-starboard-family/king-starboard/

I hope you have a large balance credit card.

I seem to recall a 4x8 sheet at around $400.


CW

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"mkr5000" wrote in message
news:7359994.1694.1332164516509.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynkm22...

Thanks for some new names like Trimax and Polyforce -- I didn't see those.
Big minimums.


The "Midwest", by the way -- is home to TEN of the sweet 16 teams. (suck on
that, rest of the country).
============================================================================================


I assume that you are talking about sports teams of some kind. You can have
them. AFAIC, you can have all the rest too.

Lew Hodgett

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Mar 19, 2012, 6:34:55 PM3/19/12
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"mkr5000" wrote:

> Where do you but this HDPE lumber (in Midwest)?
----------------------------------
WISC close enough?

http://tinyurl.com/y976voo

Lew




Mike Marlow

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Mar 19, 2012, 10:29:18 PM3/19/12
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mkr5000 wrote:

>
> The "Midwest", by the way -- is home to TEN of the sweet 16 teams.
> (suck on that, rest of the country).

Oh big freakin' deal. Syracuse is home to Syracuse and that's all that
matters! Those 10 teams are just the number of schools that will fall...


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Mike Marlow

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Mar 19, 2012, 10:33:03 PM3/19/12
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Richard wrote:

>
> Oh golly no. Not by a long shot, Mike.
>
> I'm just fascinated by the psychology involved.
>
> How ideas from long ago get set so well that they defy rational
> thought.

Now you've struck a chord I can identify with. We traverse down some nasty
rabbit trails with this kind of discussion, but I do enjoy them. I'd
suggest that the definition of Mid-West does not dey rational thought. It
had a reason and a purpose, and that's not relevant to any measure today.
It became a standard. So - for me, I'm good with it based on that.

We're going to get in trouble for carrying this thread on too far...


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Mike Marlow

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Mar 19, 2012, 10:34:48 PM3/19/12
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Leon wrote:

>
> It is an old description of a region in the US. While it does not
> necessarily reflect what you would assume not knowing the history of
> the US it is similar to the region known as the Deep South, which is
> way north of several areas in the US. Then there is the South West,
> which is north west of half of Texas, The South which includes states
> that we in Texas consider the North. ;~)


But, but but... Texans consider everything north of the Rio Grande to be
"North"...

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Richard

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Mar 20, 2012, 1:48:01 AM3/20/12
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Some trouble isn't so bad...

Richard

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Mar 20, 2012, 1:54:23 AM3/20/12
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uhh, 'scuse me Mister,
Ya meant to say everthin north of the RED river.
Didn ya?


North of the Rio Grande is Texas!

Mike Marlow

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Mar 20, 2012, 7:45:47 AM3/20/12
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Richard wrote:

>
> North of the Rio Grande is Texas!

Used to be...

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Leon

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Mar 20, 2012, 8:09:50 AM3/20/12
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Right Richard! :~)

mkr5000

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Mar 20, 2012, 8:49:03 AM3/20/12
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Now you're talkin.

Thanks !

John

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replying to DanG, John wrote:
since I am trying to find plastic lumber like 1x8 or 1/2 x6 and none of these
plastic places do not know what dimensioned lumber is they must not make it

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John

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Feb 24, 2018, 3:14:07 PM2/24/18
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replying to Gordon Shumway, John wrote:
evergreen has some also www.rpi2.com but can not seem to get help every body
wants to sell you furnituru I just lookink for lumber that will not rot
thanks John

John

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Feb 24, 2018, 3:44:05 PM2/24/18
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replying to tiredofspam, John wrote:
thank you

John

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replying to dpb, John wrote:
just want to make some bird houses thanks

John

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replying to Martin Eastburn, John wrote:
thank you

John

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John

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replying to dpb, John wrote:
thats what I t5hough thanks again

John

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Feb 24, 2018, 3:44:11 PM2/24/18
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replying to mkr5000, John wrote:
thank you

John

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John

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Feb 24, 2018, 3:44:14 PM2/24/18
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replying to dpb, John wrote:
I did and they would sell me some for , like 1/2x6inch 3.50 ft just though way
to high

John

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Feb 24, 2018, 3:44:15 PM2/24/18
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replying to Richard, John wrote:
Ohio thank you

John

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Feb 24, 2018, 3:44:16 PM2/24/18
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replying to Gordon Shumway, John wrote:
thank you gordon

David Wagner

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Apr 8, 2018, 12:44:07 PM4/8/18
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replying to mkr5000, David Wagner wrote:
Did you ever find a source? Unfortunately nobody on this blog understood your
question. I build adirondack chair from "Northdex" decking from Menards. You
can cut, rip, and rout the edges, but be careful when screwing, it split
easily. I'd like to find something better, like what is used on the finished
polywood products. One by or five quarter would be ideal. I'm in Minnesota

cook...@gmail.com

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Jun 13, 2018, 1:04:20 PM6/13/18
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On Sunday, March 18, 2012 at 8:43:18 AM UTC-4, mkr5000 wrote:
> I wouldn't ask but I've Googled this to death and nothing. Plenty of places that sell plastic furniture and products but no info on raw materials.
>
> Where do you but this HDPE lumber (in Midwest)?
>
> A place that stocks, with a variety of shapes and colors.
>
> I know I can get deck board but that's not what I'm after. THANKS.

Please check out www.PlasticLumberStore.net for all of your needs. We can ship anywhere, although our retail store is located in Ohio. We sell HDPE in various sizes and shapes, not just deck boards.

Ed Pawlowski

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Jun 13, 2018, 3:05:31 PM6/13/18
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On 6/13/2018 1:04 PM, cook...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Please check out www.PlasticLumberStore.net for all of your needs. We can ship anywhere, although our retail store is located in Ohio. We sell HDPE in various sizes and shapes, not just deck boards.
>
The link to the lumber is not working though. Sounds interesting if we
could see it.

Keith Nuttle

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Jun 13, 2018, 3:32:47 PM6/13/18
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I don't know where you live, but I have used this material before. I was
able to purchase it at Lowes, but I have seen it at Home Depot.

One thing I used it for was to replace the sill on our patio doors. It
was easy to cut and shape. We lived there nearly 10 years and it was
as good as it was when I put it in.

Unless you have special requirements you make check your local Lowes or
Home Depot.
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2018: The year we learn to play the great game of Euchre

DerbyDad03

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Jun 13, 2018, 6:14:06 PM6/13/18
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Works just fine for me.

Unquestionably Confused

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Jun 13, 2018, 6:21:15 PM6/13/18
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I've used the PVC boards to replace facia and the PVC brickmold to trim
out replacement doors and windows. Works great and will never rot.
First go around you can fill your nail holes with silicone caulk or just
fill them and paint them. My window trim has been in place for ~ 10
years now and is a bit chalky to the touch. Next time we stain/paint
I'll paint the PVC.

Neat trick I learned last year when I replaced a couple of large
windows. This stuff is dense and if you use a CA "super glue" along
with the activator, you can have miter joints (assuming you measure
THREE times and cut once, that look like they were molded.

I used the 2P-10 stuff from FastCap (great product) but I suppose any
will work equally well. I did a test run cutting the 45 degree miter on
a 2' piece of scrap. Lined them up, pushed them together hand tight and
held my breath for about 20 seconds. The bond was cured at that point.
For giggle I tried to pull it apart. Forget it! I smacked one leg of
it against a concrete sidewalk. . . TWICE and then it broke but, like
any good Titebond glue joint, it didn't break at the joint. The PCV
shattered about 3" out from the joint.

I can't say enough good things about PVC trim boards.

Ed Pawlowski

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Jun 13, 2018, 8:14:41 PM6/13/18
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Well, silly me clicked where it says "click here" It comes up if you
notice the side menu rather than follow the instructions.

DerbyDad03

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Jun 13, 2018, 9:20:37 PM6/13/18
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Hover over the "Click Here" or "Keep Reading" button on the same row.
They both link right back to www.plasticlumberstore.net

Bad website maintenance.

-MIKE-

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Jun 13, 2018, 10:52:44 PM6/13/18
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I use the CA glue on it, too, with great results.
I friggin HATE the saw dust though. It stick to everything.


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"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
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Unquestionably Confused

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Jun 13, 2018, 11:08:17 PM6/13/18
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On 6/13/2018 9:52 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 6/13/18 5:21 PM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
>> On 6/13/2018 2:32 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
>>> On 6/13/2018 3:05 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 6/13/2018 1:04 PM, cook...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please check out www.PlasticLumberStore.net for all of your needs.
>>>>> We can ship anywhere, although our retail store is located in Ohio.
>>>>> We sell HDPE in various sizes and shapes, not just deck boards.
>>>>>
>>>> The link to the lumber is not working though.  Sounds interesting if
>>>> we could see it.
>>> I don't know where you live, but I have used this material before. I
>>> was able to purchase it at Lowes, but I have seen it at Home Depot.
>>>
>>> One thing I used it for was to replace the sill on our patio doors.
>>> It was easy to cut and shape.   We lived there nearly 10 years and it
>>> was as good as it was when I put it in.
>>>
>>> Unless you have special requirements you make check your local Lowes
>>> or Home Depot.
>>
>>


[snip]

>> smacked one leg of it against a concrete sidewalk. . . TWICE and then
>> it broke but, like any good Titebond glue joint, it didn't break at
>> the joint.  The PCV shattered about 3" out from the joint.
>>
>> I can't say enough good things about PVC trim boards.
>
> I use the CA glue on it, too, with great results.
> I friggin HATE the saw dust though.  It stick to everything.

No lie! I look enough like the Pillsbury Dough Boy without the coating
of "flour: ;)



Leon

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Jun 14, 2018, 9:09:25 AM6/14/18
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I just pictured a fluffy donut with coconut sprinkles stuck to it. :~)

k...@notreal.com

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Jun 14, 2018, 9:55:21 PM6/14/18
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"I tried to think of the most harmless thing. Something that I loved
from my childhood. Something that would never ever possibly destroy
us. Mr. Stay-Puft."

john.h.t...@gmail.com

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Sep 19, 2018, 11:40:56 AM9/19/18
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On Sunday, March 18, 2012 at 8:43:18 AM UTC-4, mkr5000 wrote:
> I wouldn't ask but I've Googled this to death and nothing. Plenty of places that sell plastic furniture and products but no info on raw materials.
>
> Where do you but this HDPE lumber (in Midwest)?
>
> A place that stocks, with a variety of shapes and colors.
>
> I know I can get deck board but that's not what I'm after. THANKS.

I know this is a ridiculously old post, but since nobody ever gave a good answer..... I expect this is what you were looking for https://www.markstaar.com/recycled-plastic-lumber/poly-high-density-hdpe-plastic-lumber/

jlbar...@gmail.com

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Oct 11, 2018, 11:08:18 PM10/11/18
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Bedford Technology; mostly for commercial
Message has been deleted

Puckdropper

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Jun 8, 2020, 2:50:13 PM6/8/20
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plasti...@yahoo.com wrote in
news:b8b8097e-cd2c-46fd...@googlegroups.com:

>
> spam site dot com has a full selection of lumber in most wood
> sizes & strengths. Premium grade (nicest finish) Structural grade,
> Molded grade. Custom sizes ok. I had great success with the solid
> plastic lumber the supply. Check them out. Hope this helps.

Where do they grow the plastic trees?

Eli the Bearded

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Jun 8, 2020, 2:52:37 PM6/8/20
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In rec.woodworking, Puckdropper <puckd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Where do they grow the plastic trees?

Legoland.

Elijah
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at least some of them

Leon

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Jun 8, 2020, 3:19:12 PM6/8/20
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Same region as the rubber trees.

DerbyDad03

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Jun 8, 2020, 5:13:48 PM6/8/20
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That material is useful (Plastic)

In fact it's amazing (Fantastic)

I'm a really big fan (Lover)

(Channeling Grace Slick)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1Hvp1Z10TI

Spalted Walt

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Jun 8, 2020, 6:12:29 PM6/8/20
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mkr5000 wrote:

> I wouldn't ask but I've Googled this to death and nothing. Plenty of places that sell plastic furniture and products but no info on raw materials.
>
> Where do you but this HDPE lumber (in Midwest)?
>
> A place that stocks, with a variety of shapes and colors.
>
> I know I can get deck board but that's not what I'm after. THANKS.

Lonnie's Lumber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnM60fWSXzI

John McGaw

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Jun 8, 2020, 7:47:38 PM6/8/20
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They grow in various locations in the US and around the world. There are
heavy concentrations around Los Angeles and Miami where almost everything
you see is likely to be plastic.

--
Bodger's Dictum: Artifical intelligence
can never overcome natural stupidity.

Leon

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Jun 9, 2020, 1:01:41 PM6/9/20
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On 6/8/2020 6:47 PM, John McGaw wrote:
> On 6/8/2020 2:50 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
>> plasti...@yahoo.com wrote in
>> news:b8b8097e-cd2c-46fd...@googlegroups.com:
>>
>>>
>>> spam site dot com has a full selection of lumber in most wood
>>> sizes & strengths. Premium grade (nicest finish) Structural grade,
>>> Molded grade. Custom sizes ok. I had great success with the solid
>>> plastic lumber the supply. Check them out. Hope this helps.
>>
>> Where do they grow the plastic trees?
>>
>
> They grow in various locations in the US and around the world. There are
> heavy concentrations around Los Angeles and Miami where almost
> everything you see is likely to be plastic.
>

Don't leave out Hollywood! LOL

k...@notreal.com

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k...@notreal.com

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Jun 9, 2020, 2:24:00 PM6/9/20
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On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 19:47:35 -0400, John McGaw <Nob...@Nowh.ere> wrote:

>On 6/8/2020 2:50 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
>> plasti...@yahoo.com wrote in
>> news:b8b8097e-cd2c-46fd...@googlegroups.com:
>>
>>>
>>> spam site dot com has a full selection of lumber in most wood
>>> sizes & strengths. Premium grade (nicest finish) Structural grade,
>>> Molded grade. Custom sizes ok. I had great success with the solid
>>> plastic lumber the supply. Check them out. Hope this helps.
>>
>> Where do they grow the plastic trees?
>>
>
>They grow in various locations in the US and around the world. There are
>heavy concentrations around Los Angeles and Miami where almost everything
>you see is likely to be plastic.

Including the people, particularly their faces.

Eli the Bearded

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Jun 10, 2020, 1:26:36 AM6/10/20
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In rec.woodworking, <k...@notreal.com> wrote:
> DerbyDad03 > <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
>> That material is useful (Plastic)
>> In fact it's amazing (Fantastic)
>> I'm a really big fan (Lover)
>> (Channeling Grace Slick)
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1Hvp1Z10TI
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dug-G9xVdVs>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyhrYis509A

Elijah
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or https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0377092/

k...@notreal.com

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Jun 10, 2020, 8:19:33 PM6/10/20
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Tell me you don't watch that!

DerbyDad03

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Jun 10, 2020, 10:12:15 PM6/10/20
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Better yet, tell me how we morphed from Grace Slick to *that*!

Spalted Walt

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DerbyDad03

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That's painful first thing in the morning.

Eli the Bearded

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In rec.woodworking, DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 8:19:33 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyhrYis509A
>>> or https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0377092/
>> Tell me you don't watch that!
> Better yet, tell me how we morphed from Grace Slick to *that*!

I'm riffing on plastic, not trying to keep Grace Slick in your head.

Elijah
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Barbie -> plastic; "Plastics" -> name of clique

Spalted Walt

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DerbyDad03

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On Thursday, June 11, 2020 at 7:20:57 AM UTC-4, Eli the Bearded wrote:
> In rec.woodworking, DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 10, 2020 at 8:19:33 PM UTC-4, k...@notreal.com wrote:
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyhrYis509A
> >>> or https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0377092/
> >> Tell me you don't watch that!
> > Better yet, tell me how we morphed from Grace Slick to *that*!
>
> I'm riffing on plastic, not trying to keep Grace Slick in your head.
>

When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead
And the White Knight is talking backwards
And the Red Queen's off with her head
Remember what the Dormouse said
Feed your head, feed your head

k...@notreal.com

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Jun 11, 2020, 8:50:29 PM6/11/20
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Speaking of Grace Slick... Long (long) time ago at a college campus
far, far, away, SWMBO and I went to a horrible JA concert. Grace was
high as a kite and was constantly singing a different song than the
band was playing. Papa John was so pissed that he walked off the stage
at one point. At the end, they hadn't played White Rabbit. Grace
said that she didn't want to play it. "It's like eating a peanut
butter an jelly sandwich every day for ten years." The audience
wasn't happy.

Anyway, a month later there was a Moody Blues concert in the same
hall. At the encore they asked for requests. Some wise guy from the
back of the hall yelled out "White Rabbit". All hell broke loose. One
of the stage hands let the very confused group in on the joke, after
which they played another hour.

DerbyDad03

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Jun 12, 2020, 8:51:31 AM6/12/20
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Clever guy yelling White Rabbit. :-)

Grace Slick not wanting to play White Rabbit is like Yes leaving Roundabout
out of the set or King Crimson saying no to "Court..."

Damn...I'm surprised I even remember those concerts. Actually, they are etched
(multiple times) into my brain.

lindsay.h...@gmail.com

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Jul 17, 2020, 11:23:47 AM7/17/20
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On Sunday, March 18, 2012 at 8:43:18 AM UTC-4, mkr5000 wrote:
> I wouldn't ask but I've Googled this to death and nothing. Plenty of places that sell plastic furniture and products but no info on raw materials.
>
> Where do you but this HDPE lumber (in Midwest)?
>
> A place that stocks, with a variety of shapes and colors.
>
> I know I can get deck board but that's not what I'm after. THANKS.

I too am looking for it, I have seen deck chairs, swings, etc., made from it and cannot find the RAW poly-lumber. The Amish are selling the finished products in a multitude of colors, it looks like wood by texture and even war marks. Nice looking stuff. It is NOT cast or extruded.It is from a product that looks just like wood.

Markem

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On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 08:23:43 -0700 (PDT), lindsay.h...@gmail.com
wrote:

>On Sunday, March 18, 2012 at 8:43:18 AM UTC-4, mkr5000 wrote:
>> I wouldn't ask but I've Googled this to death and nothing. Plenty of places that sell plastic furniture and products but no info on raw materials.
>>
>> Where do you but this HDPE lumber (in Midwest)?
>>
>> A place that stocks, with a variety of shapes and colors.
>>
>> I know I can get deck board but that's not what I'm after. THANKS.
>
>I too am looking for it, I have seen deck chairs, swings, etc.,

Menard's sells PVC 1 by lumber in varied widths.
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