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Max

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Jan 29, 2005, 5:54:19 PM1/29/05
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I have a friend who knows Robin. Here's the real scoop.

Hometime offered to renew her contract for the 13th season last
August-04. Throughout 2004, Dean and Robin participated as
spokespersons for Little Giant Ladder and shot an infomercial
demonstrating the product. Within months, the infomercial was ranked
among the top 10 in the country.

Little Giant Ladder replaced Dean with Richard Karn (Al from the sitcom
Home Improvement) and asked Robin to continue as a spokesperson and
shoot a new infomercial with Richard. As I understand it, because of
her contract with Hometime, she had to leave the show in order to take
the deal with Little Giant.

Apparently the deal was too good to pass up. So she declined the offer
to renew with Hometime for a 13th season.

Max

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Jan 30, 2005, 3:05:40 AM1/30/05
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I have a friend who knows Robin. Here's the real scoop.


Hometime offered to renew her contract for the 13th season l­ast

August-04. Throughout 2004, Dean and Robin participated as

spokespersons for Little Giant Ladder and shot an infomercia­l
demonstrating the product. Within months, the infomercial wa­s ranked

among the top 10 in the country.


Little Giant Ladder replaced Dean with Richard Karn (Al from­ the
sitcom

Home Improvement) and asked Robin to continue as a spokesper­son and
shoot a new infomercial with Richard. As I understand it, be­cause of

her contract with Hometime, she had to leave the show in ord­er to

Upscale

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Jan 30, 2005, 8:57:21 AM1/30/05
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"Max" <bcta...@hotmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message
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> I have a friend who knows Robin. Here's the real scoop.

Just the fact that you've posted this comment a number of times
consecutively, would lead some to doubt the veracity of your statement. At
the very least, it makes you look like you're posting it to garnish some
attention for yourself.


Edwin Pawlowski

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Jan 30, 2005, 10:17:03 AM1/30/05
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"Upscale" <ups...@rogers.com> wrote in message
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Never had a news server hiccup on you did you? Internet communications via
Usenet is far from perfect.


Upscale

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Jan 30, 2005, 1:29:19 PM1/30/05
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"Edwin Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote in message news:PT6Ld.11625$X%

>
> Never had a news server hiccup on you did you? Internet communications via
> Usenet is far from perfect.

Sure, it's happened to me, but when it's happened, all the messages have had
the same time stamp. His four postings were all minutes apart and in
similar, but different threads. That's not a hiccup, it's repeated posting.


Edwin Pawlowski

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Jan 30, 2005, 3:06:05 PM1/30/05
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"Upscale" <ups...@rogers.com> wrote in message
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My server shows them all in the same thread. Two have time stamps four
minutes apart. Every once is a while I'll see a posting repeated with a
time stamp of a week or two previous. You say four postings, but I only see
three here. I'll try to remember to check on it at work as it is a
different ISP and servers.


Upscale

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Jan 30, 2005, 3:24:06 PM1/30/05
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"Edwin Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote in message
> My server shows them all in the same thread. Two have time stamps four
> minutes apart. Every once is a while I'll see a posting repeated with a
> time stamp of a week or two previous. You say four postings, but I only
see
> three here. I'll try to remember to check on it at work as it is a
> different ISP and servers.

You don't even have to do that Ed. In this particular thread, look at his
first posting and the one the following day. Same words, but the line
spacing is different. Hiccups might repost, but they don't rearrange line
spacing.


Chuck Hoffman

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Jan 30, 2005, 4:00:50 PM1/30/05
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I count five posts on this topic...two more than the OP's. Is this a waste
of bandwidth? Or have the net police arrived on the scene of a "crime?"

"Upscale" <ups...@rogers.com> wrote in message

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Ed Clarke

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Jan 30, 2005, 9:32:50 PM1/30/05
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I suspect "driver error". Save (think you're saving), make a little change,
"save" again and then discover you've been posting instead of saving.

Max

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Jan 31, 2005, 12:36:52 AM1/31/05
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Upscale,

You are correct. Unlike you, who is obviously an experienced "poster"
with some 1630 messages on this group alone, this was the first (and
probably last) attempt to communicate through this type of medium. I
thought I made a mistake on the first post attempt so I sent a second
post w/o realizing the first post had been actually been submitted.

So please accept my apologies for posting two messages, which
unfortunately diverted your attention and lead you to erroneous
conclusions.

As to your analysis that "At the very least, it makes you look like
you're posting it "to garnish some attention for yourself," you are
"at the very least" wrong. I was simply attempting to help a friend
who has co-hosted a home improvement TV show for 12 years by addressing
a growing number of questions from posters in various groups as to why
she left the show with factual representations regarding her departure.


As to your observations regarding the "veracity" of my "statement",
if you are really interested, click the following sites
https://www.ladders.com/vcc/littlegiantladders/littlegiantladder/125756/
and http://www.jwgreensheet.com/Frames.htm.

Max

Upscale

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Jan 31, 2005, 1:37:14 AM1/31/05
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"Max" <bcta...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> You are correct. Unlike you, who is obviously an experienced "poster"
> with some 1630 messages on this group alone, this was the first (and
> probably last) attempt to communicate through this type of medium. I
> thought I made a mistake on the first post attempt so I sent a second
> post w/o realizing the first post had been actually been submitted.

Seeing as how you're experienced enough to search out how many times I've
posted, I have to wonder how you could make a newbie mistake like hitting
the send button without knowing that you might be reposting. One would
further wonder how you accomplished that error by posting three times
including the gap of nine hours between your first message and the second.
Were you too lazy after those nine hours to confirm that your post had
actually arrived? Must have been some type of server delay error. Weird how
that server error is now cleared up so you can argue the point.

> As to your analysis that "At the very least, it makes you look like
> you're posting it "to garnish some attention for yourself," you are
> "at the very least" wrong. I was simply attempting to help a friend

If I'd been absolutely sure that you'd done it on purpose, I'd have worded
it so. As it was, I simply stated how it looked Max, which left the question
open to some doubt. Obviously, you want to take it as an unwavering
accusation. That's your prerogative. Seeing your reply, my prerogative now
is to believe that you're either careless or just don't care.

Post here or don't post here, but at the very least, grow a thicker skin or
you won't survive for very long.

Have a good day.


Upscale

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Jan 31, 2005, 1:44:06 AM1/31/05
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"Ed Clarke" <cla...@cilia.org> wrote in message
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>
> I suspect "driver error". Save (think you're saving), make a little
change,
> "save" again and then discover you've been posting instead of saving.

No argument, I've seen that happen, just not over a nine hour period. I
guess there's a first time for anything. Doesn't matter. Max has decided
that I've directly accused him instead what it was, a suggestion of how it
looks, which to me anyway, entailed at least a little doubt. I guess I'm now
a big, mean net cop. Oh, the shame of it. :)


dte...@yahoo.com

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Jan 31, 2005, 7:25:36 AM1/31/05
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Side note about Little Giant Ladders. Nice ladder but way overpriced
and long, long wait, from Wing the manufacturer of the Little Giant
Ladder. Ordered my ladder Dec. 5 2004, expecting to receive by xmas.
All I received was a coupon and apologies the week before xmas that my
ladder
wil be shippped early January of 05. With the letter they said they are
adding more shifts to get orders out. second week of January I called
Wing for update on order and after the obligatory 45 min wait "for next
available person" they said they did not have record of my order. Well
emailed person made my purchase from asking what is problem and for a
shipper track number when they ship. I received the ladder last week
Jan 27, 2005. Two days later they emailed me the shipper number. That's
my story nice ladder but overpriced and not worth the wait. There are a
lot of similar knockoffs just as good, I have one from costco smale but
as good less than half the price. Robin made a big mistake in my
opinion leaving Hometime for Little Giant ladder infomercial, guess she
went for Money and more exposure.

B a r r y

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Jan 31, 2005, 7:54:51 AM1/31/05
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dte...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Side note about Little Giant Ladders. Nice ladder but way overpriced

Many items I've seen sold via infomercials are either overpriced, crap,
or both. The whole purpose of an infomercial is to generate hype beyond
what is possible in 30 seconds. <G>

Look what's typically sold via infomercial:
Exercise equipment
Diet plans and pills
Get rich schemes
Tools and appliances that solve problems that are either nonexistent, or
easily solved with something you already own.

Barry

bri...@sympatico.ca

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Jan 31, 2005, 9:43:14 AM1/31/05
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Hmmm...Looks like one needs the thicker skin because guys that are
obviously wrong won't admit it.

B a r r y

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Jan 31, 2005, 11:32:10 AM1/31/05
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bri...@sympatico.ca wrote:
> Hmmm...Looks like one needs the thicker skin because guys that are
> obviously wrong won't admit it.
>


Without some quoted material, some of us have no idea what you're
referring to.

Barry

ROBMURR

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Jan 31, 2005, 2:31:36 PM1/31/05
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I ordered my LG at a woodworking show
about 8+ years ago and it sure gets
borrowed a lot. I had it out when my
Gutter man was out to replace a gutter
and let him use it..He uses ladders everyday for 15years but not LG, Commented
that he really liked it.
He liked it even more when both he and I got on it to check something.
There are cheaper knock offs I am sure out there. Last time I priced an
emergency room visit it was a lot more than my LG ladder.
I guess they have been swamped by people buying their ladder and why you had
such a problem getting thru. My local
hardware store is a dealer in them now
too. Carrying even the biggest ones they
make.

patrick conroy

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Jan 31, 2005, 4:46:08 PM1/31/05
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"B a r r y" <keep_it_in_the_...@thankyou.com> wrote in message
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>
> Look what's typically sold via infomercial:
> Exercise equipment
> Diet plans and pills
> Get rich schemes
> Tools and appliances that solve problems that are either nonexistent, or
> easily solved with something you already own.


C'mon - I think that lil' soldering iron that goes cold immediately is
pretty neat! :)


Dave Hall

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Jan 31, 2005, 4:52:26 PM1/31/05
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Well, if we are going to talk about the LG ladder I would appreciate
any comments from LG ladder owners who have had the opportunity (and
taken the time) to look at the Gorilla ladder sold by Home Depot. It
seems quite good and is much less expensive, but if the LG is a lot
better then I will have to think twice about purchasing a Gorilla
ladder.

Thanks...and yeah, I have seen a few comments on a Google search but I
haven't seen a serious comparison made by a LG ladder owner.

Dave Hall

Unisaw A100

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Jan 31, 2005, 5:11:53 PM1/31/05
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I just figured he was referring to Upscale.

UA100, who also snipped away the referred to material...

LRod

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Jan 31, 2005, 5:17:13 PM1/31/05
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Look it up on the web, though. I think Amazon carries it, well, some
site that has feedback. The feedback was horrible. And not just one or
two.


- -
LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

Chuck Hoffman

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Jan 31, 2005, 5:28:40 PM1/31/05
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I've never seen one...never used one...but I can guaran-damn-tee that the
thing melts the solder only and doesn't heat the joint up enough to "tin"
it. This results in a "cold solder joint" and in a few weeks it will be
corroded and lose electrical contact. Don't waste your money.

"LRod" <LRod-remo...@pobox.com> wrote in message
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Lee Gordon

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Jan 31, 2005, 5:58:44 PM1/31/05
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<<Look what's typically sold via infomercial:
Exercise equipment
Diet plans and pills
Get rich schemes
Tools and appliances that solve problems that are either nonexistent, or
easily solved with something you already own.""

Typical line: "It replaces hundreds of dollars worth of ________." [Fill
in the blank -- cleaning products, kitchen appliances, power tools]

Even if it were true, I have already spent those hundreds of dollars and own
all that stuff. I might as well use it. Why should I spend more and add to
the collection?

So much of that infomercial stuff is total crap, but not necessarily all of
it. Years ago I bought a Foodsaver vacuum sealing machine and I would not
hesitate to do it again. (I've never tried using it as a vacuum press for
veneer but one of these days I may conduct an experiment.)
There's a guy who writes a column in the Courant called "As Seen on TV" and
he reviews infomercial stuff. He says that little cold heat soldering iron
is not so great for electronics but is probably useful for jewelry repair.
He also thinks that broom with the little rubber bristles is as good as
advertised and especially useful for clearing snow off a car.

Lee
--
To e-mail, replace "bucketofspam" with "dleegordon"


ROBMURR

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Jan 31, 2005, 6:29:37 PM1/31/05
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>Well, if we are going to talk about the LG ladder I would appreciate
>any comments from LG ladder owners who have had the opportunity (and
>taken the time) to look at the Gorilla ladder sold by Home Depot. It
>seems quite good and is much less expensive, but if the LG is a lot
>better then I will have to think twice about purchasing a Gorilla
>ladder.
>
>Thanks...and yeah, I have seen a few comments on a Google search but I
>haven't seen a serious comparison made by a LG ladder owner.
>
>Dave Hall
>
I have looked at them and they are made
in a similar way but the HD model is not
as heavy duty as the LG. Also they make
2 sizes 13ft and 21ft? I think..Not sure
exactly how high they become as stepladders, never seen one opened at
HD. The LG model they show is 7ft as
a stepladder and 17 ft as an extension ladder. I have no problem standing with
my feet across the 2 top rungs 7ft off the ground if need be. The HD also dont
come with the platform
to stand on or to put stuff on or that acts
as a brace when in scaffold mode..
the 13 cost $99 the 21 cost $198? or so.
If the shorter ladder works for you and
you cant spring for the LG get the HD
model. LG also makes a version that
looks more like the lighter duty HD model
for less than the infomercial priced one.


Brent Beal

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Jan 31, 2005, 7:31:34 PM1/31/05
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<dte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Max wrote:
>> I have a friend who knows Robin. Here's the real scoop.
>>
>> Hometime offered to renew her contract for the 13th season last
guess she
> went for Money and more exposure.

Naturally, more money. But I would prefer the more exposure part better.
Speaking of more, anyone seen the new commercial with JoAnne in it. Guess
her metabolism slowed some huh!
>


B a r r y

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Feb 1, 2005, 7:28:25 AM2/1/05
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Lee Gordon wrote:

> There's a guy who writes a column in the Courant called "As Seen on TV" and
> he reviews infomercial stuff.

Don't forget, the original infomercial guy, Ron Popeil, is from the
Hartford area!

Barry

Joe Gorman

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Feb 1, 2005, 8:16:41 AM2/1/05
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check the archives of rec.crafts.metalworking. There was a thread
on this in the last few months.
Joe

Dave Hall

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Feb 1, 2005, 10:28:32 AM2/1/05
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Thanks for the reply. I was kind of interested in the 21 ft. gorilla
ladder (18' 11" useable length - the 21' is the total combined length
of the 4 sections) as it makes a little better than a 9' step ladder
while the 17' LG only makes a 7' step. Of course I could go with a
bigger LG to get a bigger step. I did set the Gorilla up as a step
ladder and climb to the top and it was solid. However, if the LG is
significantly more heavy duty I may have to consider it. Any idea id
the LG platforms would fit on the Gorilla ladder?

Dave Hall

Cothian

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Feb 1, 2005, 1:10:14 PM2/1/05
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Joe Gorman <gor...@musc.edu> wrote in
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Got one for X-mas. Tried using it once, ended up getting out the soldering
iron and promptly gave it to someone I didn't like very much.

Coth

Lee Gordon

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Feb 1, 2005, 7:15:19 PM2/1/05
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<<Don't forget, the original infomercial guy, Ron Popeil, is from the
Hartford area!>>

I did not know that. I can't understand how the local boosters can
publicize that people such as Katherine Hepburn, Charles Nelson Reilly,
Dominick Dunne and Amy Brenneman are from Hartford and then omit one of the
greatest of them all, Ron Popeil. It is shameful. ;-)

B a r r y

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Feb 2, 2005, 7:28:36 AM2/2/05
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Lee Gordon wrote:
> <<Don't forget, the original infomercial guy, Ron Popeil, is from the
> Hartford area!>>
>
> I did not know that. I can't understand how the local boosters can
> publicize that people such as Katherine Hepburn, Charles Nelson Reilly,
> Dominick Dunne and Amy Brenneman are from Hartford and then omit one of the
> greatest of them all, Ron Popeil. It is shameful. ;-)
>
> Lee


Ron gets mentioned on a regular basis by Colin McEnroe on WTIC.

Barry

dusty

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Mar 23, 2005, 3:21:29 PM3/23/05
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First post, you have a friend that knows her:
>>I have a friend who knows Robin. Here's the real scoop.....

Second post, she is your friend:


>I was simply attempting to help a friend who has co-hosted a home

improvement TV show....

Which is it?


dusty

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Mar 23, 2005, 3:22:30 PM3/23/05
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First post, you have a friend that knows her:
>>I have a friend who knows Robin. Here's the real scoop.....

Second post, she is your friend:

>I was simply attempting to help a friend who has co-hosted a home

improvement TV show....

Which is it?


dusty

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Mar 23, 2005, 3:20:23 PM3/23/05
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First post, you have a friend that knows her:
>>I have a friend who knows Robin. Here's the real scoop.....

Second post, she's your friend:


>I was simply attempting to help a friend who has co-hosted a home

improvement TV show....

Which is it?


dusty

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Mar 23, 2005, 3:30:07 PM3/23/05
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FOR THE RECORD.........I sent this only ONCE!!!!!!


"dusty" <walk...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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glieberman

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Apr 26, 2005, 7:21:20 PM4/26/05
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I'm astounded as to how much time and energy has been spent on this
posting. My question is: So what if you are right and so what if that
is what he is doing? Is it REALLY that important?


--
glieberman

tng1949

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Sep 12, 2015, 4:44:04 PM9/12/15
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replying to Upscale, tng1949 wrote:
> upscale wrote:
>
> "Edwin Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote in message
> see
> You don't even have to do that Ed. In this particular thread, look at his
> first posting and the one the following day. Same words, but the line
> spacing is different. Hiccups might repost, but they don't rearrange line
> spacing.


Come on....really! Who gives a rat's ass how many times it's posted? Get a
life!

--


John McCoy

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Sep 12, 2015, 5:19:38 PM9/12/15
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tng1949 <caedfaa9ed1216d60e...@example.com> wrote in
news:df83e$55f48e91$cf3aab60$16...@news.flashnewsgroups.com:
LOL. You're bitching about a message from January 2005.
Don't you think the guy bitching about a 10 year old message
is the one who really needs a life?

John

Markem

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Sep 12, 2015, 6:54:15 PM9/12/15
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I believe that thread was dead dead dead till you resurrected it.
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