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Apollo vs Fuji HVLP Spray Systems

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Joe Zeh

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May 3, 2003, 7:50:16 PM5/3/03
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I am about to buy my first HVLP spray system. I have looked at the Apollo
800 & 1000 and the Fuji Q3 & Q4. I would like some feedback from people who
have used either, both or another system. I don't intend to spay latex. My
application is strictly furniture and cabinets. Any opinion on 3-stage vs
4-stage? Jeff Jewitt, in his book Great Wood Finishes, says that you should
get at least a 3-stage if you intend to spay water based finishes. I am
wondering if "at least" means to be safe get a 4-stage.

Joe....


Kim Whitmyre

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May 3, 2003, 8:51:39 PM5/3/03
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I've got the Apollo 2-stage model (700), and it sprays Hydrocote's
Resisthane just fine. . .

Kim
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Lawrence L'Hote

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May 3, 2003, 8:56:31 PM5/3/03
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> application is strictly furniture and cabinets. Any opinion on 3-stage vs
> 4-stage? Jeff Jewitt, in his book Great Wood Finishes, says that you
should
> get at least a 3-stage if you intend to spay water based finishes. I am
> wondering if "at least" means to be safe get a 4-stage.

I have the Fuji Q4. Only negative is the noise level (I wear ear muffs),
even though it's touted as a 'quiet' unit. What's remarkable about the hvlp
units is the lack of overspray compared to conventional spray units. As
with any spray system, filter the finish and do a thorough clean up. I have
to dismantle my gun regularly to clean out little globs that seem to appear
from nowhere and end up in the nozzle.
Larry
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Lawrence L'Hote
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BeanieMike

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May 4, 2003, 12:48:30 AM5/4/03
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I've had an Apollo 800 for a few months, mainly cuz' I tried one out
at school and we get a good price from Apollo who's just a couple
miles from me. Real happy with it so far. I think a 3-stage is more
than adequate if you're sticking with solvent- and water-based
products. You'd only need a 4-stage for a lot of latex work.

BeanieMike

Mike G

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May 4, 2003, 11:19:48 AM5/4/03
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Hi Joe

I've owned and used three HVLP units and have sprayed water based finishes,
oil based, and latex. The three units were the Campbell Hausfeld 2500 (a
relitivly inexpensive unit), the Accuspray, and the Fuji Q4. The Accuspray
is no longer in my shop but that is not to say it isn't a fine unit. There
were a couple of problems that I'd have to put down to luck of the draw and
not to any basic flaws in the unit or company.

I can't say enough good things about the Q4 and for various reasons I'd
recommend the Fuji Q units over others. However those reasons are bells and
whistles. IE the quietness, which, after using other units, is almost
startling when you first start the unit up, the crush proof hose with
infinite air volume control.

When you get right down to the nuts and bolts of spraying I'm sure the
Appollo will do as equally good job as my Fuji. That is, as fine a finish as
you are capable of putting down. That, of course, will depend on the effort
you put into learning how to use whatever unit you choose.

No, "at least" doesn't mean to, be safe you should get a 4 stage unit. With
the proper nozzle/needle combination and thinning you will even be able to
spray a decent latex job with a 3 stage unit. A 3 stage unit will do the job
just fine with any standard (oil or water based) stain/finish. Of course,
not being able to see into the future, that isn't to say you might not be
wishing you had opted for a 4 stage unit at some point. .

Note, most units I looked at and tested come with an intermediate
nozzle/needle combination that will do standard wood finishes, oil or water
based, just fine. The Fuji Q4 comes with a needle/nozzle combination better
suited for more viscous materials and if you go with it you'd probably want
to also order the next needle/nozzle combination down. A number 3 I believe.
In any case, before you buy, contact the maufacturer and find out what
needle/nozzle combination you recieve with the unit and what that
combination is recommended for. Get the next lower also if necessary

Hope it helps
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Mike G.
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net


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