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Larry Jaques

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On 14 Oct 2000 03:12:02 GMT, rgre...@aol.com (RGreg2738) scrawled:

>Along with woodworking what other hobbies do the members of this group have?
>
>I will soon retire and have great plans for all those hours I spent at work,
>doing the things I really enjoy, which along with wood working include hunting,
>fishing, gardening, landscaping and for those cold wintery days when you can't
>get out of the house I am going to my studio and paint pictures.
>Thanks to my daughter, I now have a web site displaying my fine art. If your
>interested take a look. http://members.nbci.com/ronsart/ron-gregory

I get a 404 error for that page, Ron.


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Greg Millen

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funny you should ask that question, I have been thinking about this
recently. I know some of these guys (and gals!) have been on here a long
time, so computing is most likely a common interest. I have seen a thread
about music that drew a lot of responses, and photography has been topical
also. The common theme appears to be hobbies that demand a creative mind.
BTW, most seem to be independent thinkers also, and are likely to argue with
this post :~)

As for me: activities with the kids, computing, photography, gardening and
tinkering with anything that comes apart (no requirement to put it back
together if it doesn't want to go).

enjoy your retirement,

Greg
http://www.greg.millen.com

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Along with woodworking what other hobbies do the members of this group have?

<snip>

Nova

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Wood turning, computing, home remodeling, furniture refinishing, music
(guitar, banjo and harmonica and vocals), photography, target shooting (shotgun,
rifle and pistol), karate, drawing (pencil, charcoal and pastels), and skiing.
There's probably others that I no longer have time for (since taking up
woodworking) as well.

Jack Novak

> "RGreg2738" <rgre...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Along with woodworking what other hobbies do the members of this group have?
>

> <snip>


RGreg2738

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>Subject: Re: Woodworking- Hobbies

Opps! the web site is:

http://members.nbci.com/Ronsart/Ron-Gregory

Nova

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I still get an error 404 - Member's page not found from this new link.

Jack Novak

Bob

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Retirement is really very very nice...(g) I now have much less time
then I ever did before I retired...

I of course enjoy woodworking but I also tinker with cars... Now own
4 Corvettes which I am always playing with..current project is a
restoration on a 68 SS 396 Chevelle ...picked up a set of OEM
front fenders a few weeks ago in Carlisle.. This hobby is however
slightly different then woodworking...Talk about space limitations..
already making plans to expand one of the garages .. also will need
a second lift...

Enjoy your retirement...I sure am...

Bob Griffiths
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Doug Winterburn

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I tried the retirement thing for almost a year. I found that
woodworking, golf, electronics, cooking/bbqing, amateur astronomy, ...
are all fun, but I missed my prior career which was computer software,
so I got a job with a small company in the software business. I am able
to telecommute full time, so it not the cubicle situation. My time is
now more than taken, which is what I wanted.

RiderGuy

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Motorcycling, travel, flying, some DIY, chasing my wife, shortwave listening,
videography.

>Along with woodworking what other hobbies do the members of this group have?
>

<snip>

Robert Arguello

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Falconry, dog training, brewing, gardening.
Robert Arguello (aka BrewHawk)

Larry Blanchard

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Model railroading, motorcycling, gardening, reading, computers.

Amazing how computers have migrated to the end of the list since I
retired :-).

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Chris Swanson

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Computing, Shooting/hunting, coin collecting, DIY stuff around the house
(This goes hand in hand with woodworking, doesn't it? lol) 4x4-ing,
automotive mechanic work (working on my pickup, etc) designing projects for
woodworking, and archery are all hobbies of mine.

Chris Swanson


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Walt Akers

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Hey:

Falconry? Get the hell out of here... Where and how does someone
get involved in that? Is it as entertaining as it sounds?

Walt

Robert Arguello wrote:

> On 14 Oct 2000 03:12:02 GMT, rgre...@aol.com (RGreg2738) wrote:
>

> Falconry, dog training, brewing, gardening.
> Robert Arguello (aka BrewHawk)

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Doug Winterburn

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In late February, there's a several week long event east of Phoenix
called "The Renaissance Festival". I suspect similar events are held in
many other cities at different times of the year. One of the shows is
"Birds of Prey" where a half dozen or more magnificent eagles, falcons,
vultures, etc. and their handlers put on a show that is up close and
personal. If you think woodworkers have patience, you would not believe
the patience a "falconer" must need.

If you're lucky enough to see one of these shows, the bird handlers seem
to be happy spending time answering questions after the show.

Walt Akers wrote:
>
> Hey:
>
> Falconry? Get the hell out of here... Where and how does someone
> get involved in that? Is it as entertaining as it sounds?
>
> Walt
>
> Robert Arguello wrote:
>
> > On 14 Oct 2000 03:12:02 GMT, rgre...@aol.com (RGreg2738) wrote:
> >

Walt Akers

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Thanks, Doug:

Odds are good that I'll never be an active participant... However, I'd
sure like to see it. I wonder if they do that sort of thing in southeastern
Virginia?

Walt

Doug Winterburn wrote:

> In late February, there's a several week long event east of Phoenix
> called "The Renaissance Festival". I suspect similar events are held in
> many other cities at different times of the year. One of the shows is
> "Birds of Prey" where a half dozen or more magnificent eagles, falcons,
> vultures, etc. and their handlers put on a show that is up close and
> personal. If you think woodworkers have patience, you would not believe
> the patience a "falconer" must need.
>
> If you're lucky enough to see one of these shows, the bird handlers seem
> to be happy spending time answering questions after the show.
>
> Walt Akers wrote:
> >
> > Hey:
> >
> > Falconry? Get the hell out of here... Where and how does someone
> > get involved in that? Is it as entertaining as it sounds?
> >
> > Walt
> >
> > Robert Arguello wrote:
> >
> > > On 14 Oct 2000 03:12:02 GMT, rgre...@aol.com (RGreg2738) wrote:
> > >

1strecorder

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Some of my other hobbies include geodesic domes, alternative energy,
dinosaurs, strategic board games (i.e. war games), collecting and trading
Transformers toys and taking care of a friend's infant daughter.


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Dusty and Nina Richardson

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You asked for hobbies. I like crocheting, knitting, working on my
wife's 6 Studebakers and my 3, electronics, computers, listening to R&R
and country, wood working, model railroading, brick laying, writing
novels, writing poetry, loving SWMBO, watching football, the net, video
taping, photography, model design & construction, gardening, cooking,
sleeping, eating, quilting shows, latch hook rug making, swedish
weaving, leatherwork, silversmithing, jewelry making, coin collecting,
genealogy, locksmithing, talking on the phone and reading

I am a 50 years old and I have epilepsy and have been disabled with
severe osteoarthritis for the last 15 years. My wife enjoys all these
hobbies too, especially working on Studebakers.

Dusty

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RGreg2738

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>Subject: Re: Woodworking- Hobbies

Someday I may get use to the computer requiring perfect performance. Try this:

http://members.nbci.com/Ronsart/Ron_Gregory

I have tried it twice this time and it does work.

Sorry.

Larry Jaques

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That's it. The key was the underscore between Ron and Gregory.
You had used a dash before. LOVE the cats. You've got the eye
and the skill, I'll gareONtee.

Charles Self

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Dusty notes:

>You asked for hobbies. I like crocheting, knitting, working on my
>wife's 6 Studebakers and my 3,

Oh man. My father was a mechanic for Mount Vernon Studebaker (NY, not VA) and
my first car was a '50 Stude. Amazing. I got so I could change the rod
bearings on that piece of junk flathead 6 in the dark.

Charlie Self
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today than I was yesterday." -Adlai Stevenson.


Rob Stokes

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Charlie:

Do you lurk on the Stude group (alt.autos.studebaker)?? I haven't seen you
there if you do.

I have a '65 Daytona myself and am deep into parts collection mode. Hope to
start the restore in about a year.

Rob


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> OOOOh. My first car was a 50 Studebaker. A real bucket of bolts. Ran
into a
> clown who ran a stop sign on a dark and stormy night, just having been
fired from
> my part time job in a hardware store, just before Christmas. Gospel
truth.
> Turned out OK, though. Between insurance and the junk yard I was armed
with about
> $600 which was enough for a '50 Chevvy coupe with a cherry body and a
broken
> engine and a GMC 6 banger. Some carburation and I had my first street
rod. I was
> accused of having wing nuts on the (stock chevvy) transmission casing
though. Lots
> of fun.
> mahalo,
> jo4hn

Ray Ewing

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Worked for me.

Ray


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RGreg2738

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>Subject: Re: Woodworking- Hobbies

Charlie what do you crochet? I am into afghans both standard and the time
consuming afghan stitch. Great for making the hours pass on a cold winter
night in front of the fire place.

Jo4hn

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Charles Self

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Rob Stokes asks:

>Charlie:
>
>Do you lurk on the Stude group (alt.autos.studebaker)?? I haven't seen you
>there if you do.

Oh no. I usually try to forget that experience. Traded that thing for a down
payment on a '57 Chevy convertible. Dual fours, Duntov cam, close ratio 3
speed (column). Back in '57 that thing would pass anyting on the road but a
gas station. Had a pitiful 16 gallon tank, and a mpg of about 9 unless you
stuck your foot in it and brought that second 4 barrel on line. Then, 6-7 mpg.

Did the then 117 miles of the Jersey Turnpike in 55 minutes a couple times.
Had to pull off and wait for an hour at the restaurant to keep from getting a
ticket when the card was punched with the time.

Owen Lowe

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>I of course enjoy woodworking but I also tinker with cars... Now own
>4 Corvettes which I am always playing with..current project is a
>restoration on a 68 SS 396 Chevelle ...picked up a set of OEM
>front fenders a few weeks ago in Carlisle.. This hobby is however
>slightly different then woodworking...Talk about space limitations..
>already making plans to expand one of the garages .. also will need
>a second lift...

WhooWheee - 4! I've had a 67 coupe for 20 years now and a 72 I got cause
I wanted a "driver"; tho the 72 is now apart and awaiting resto and
rebuilds.

Used to live in Chambersburg, PA and went to Carlise many times in the
early 80's - now that I live on the left coast, I sure do envy you
easterners at times. (Really just for the car events and the local
hardwood availability.)

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Robert Arguello

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On Sat, 14 Oct 2000 16:24:34 GMT, Walt Akers <ak...@twisted-oaks.org>
wrote:

>Hey:
>
>Falconry? Get the hell out of here... Where and how does someone
>get involved in that? Is it as entertaining as it sounds?
>
>Walt

I earned my falconry license in 1970 and retired from the sport in
1996 due to suffering a stroke. Becoming a falconer is a lot easier
process now than it was 30 years ago as the falconry community was
"underground" back then, but with new laws, (in great part written by
falconers), the sport became legit and protected by federal law in the
late 70's.

If you are interested in falconry, you can contact your local fish and
game authorities to make certain the sport is legal in your state.
Every state that allows falconry will also have a falconers club or
organization that will help novices through the difficult licensing
procedures.

In a nutshell, there are three levels of license...

1. APPRENTICE. This lasts two years. You must pass a federal test
proving your knowledge of birds of prey, their life history, dietary
needs, basic veterinary, training procedures, the laws pertaining to
falconry in particular and hunting in general and other such stuff.
To apply for your apprentice license, you must also have your "Mews",
(hawkhouse), inspected as well as show the officer that you posess the
equipment and hawk "furniture" required. Most difficult, you must
have a "sponsor". A sponsor is a fully licensed falconer who is
willing to take you "under his wing", and make sure your bird comes to
no harm due to handler mistakes or lack of knowledge.

2. After two years of apprenticeship, you are eligible to apply for
your GENERAL license. With your sponsors approval, you will become a
general level falconer and stay at that level for 5 years.

3. After a total of at least 7 years, you may apply for your MASTERS
license.
Robert Arguello (aka BrewHawk)

Robert Arguello

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On Sat, 14 Oct 2000 17:03:36 GMT, Walt Akers <ak...@twisted-oaks.org>
wrote:

>Thanks, Doug:


>
> Odds are good that I'll never be an active participant... However, I'd
>sure like to see it. I wonder if they do that sort of thing in southeastern
>Virginia?
>
>Walt

Check with your fish and game authorities,
http://www.dgif.state.va.us/ , to see if there is a falconry club or
association in your state. If so, contact them to find out when and
where their next "meet" is being held.
Here in California, the California Hawking Club,
http://www.calhawkingclub.org/ holds numerous smaller meets each year
and also has a large annual meet. The large "meet" used to attract 200
to 400 falconers and their birds.

Also, NAFA, the North American Falconry Association, sponsors a meet
each year. Their event is global and attracts falconers from all over
the world. http://www.n-a-f-a.org/

Robert Arguello (aka BrewHawk)

Loyd Blankenship

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I have several hobbies that dovetail nicely with woodworking -- I build
model planes (and sometimes cars), and also quilt (mostly the design and
piecing end of things, the wife is a far better quilter than I -- I still
have lineman's hands). Music is a hobby is well, I hope to some day be
confident enough in my WW abilities to make my own instruments. I have the
LMG catalog, I drool on it occasionally.

Loyd
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Besides woodworking:
skiing, flyfishing and flytying, hunting/shooting, computers, electronic
microscopy, skydiving, pen and ink as well as watercolor.

I have a lot of hobbies that I kinda got out of or don't have the time for such as
ham radio, radio controlled aircraft/modelling, photography, audiophile (although I
still have and listen to my extensive LP and reel-to-reel tapes of 50's/60's/70's
music)

Philski

Doug Winterburn

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Ah, yes - I forgot to mention building model airplanes. It's
kinda/sorta woodworking as all I do are the stick models (balsa & tissue
paper). Have a B17, B25, Stuka and 4 unopened boxes including a space
shuttle stick model. I just hang mine from ceiling with monofilament
fish line as they are rather heavy after several coats of paint and I'd
hate to try and fly one and go down in flames after all the hours put in
building.

-Doug

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Okay gang, here's my 2 bits. NCR Corp. 27yr. large scale edp maint. &
repair, 10yr. OTR Truck Driver, retired because of Type II Diabetes, on
80units insulin daily. Woodworking(newly rediscovered), motorcycling
(gave it up, donated my Gold Wing to S.I.L. because my knees went to
hell, can't have them doubled up at all, and highway boards only
provided temp. relief), hunting/shooting(ditto the knees), music(church
choir), church men's club(we try to take care of physical plant needs
of the church), maintaining my '89 F150 workhorse & wife's 98 F150
pride & joy. Right now the 89 is jacked up w/rear end torn apart.
Started out to rebuild brakes, found leaking axle seal, also found bolt
holding spider gear shaft broken, had to literally cut carrier apart to
get shaft out and remove axles. Tomorrow it's a junkyard carrier and
probably one axle, as the bearing surface on it is going gray instead
of shiny(what do you expect, it's only got 162,000mi. on it!)
Remodeling house, on constant call from 4 daughters & S.I.L.'S as I
seem to be the family "wizard" for "what's wrong with my
tractor/car/truck/lawnmower/woodstove, etc.,etc., plus 4Hr. daily
during week as a volunteer for my best friend, assisting with teaching
1st thru 4th grade children with emotional problems, often compounded
with learning disabilities, etc.
All this makes me wonder what I did with my time before I retired!!!
Norm
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>> > RGreg2738 wrote:
>> >
>> > > Along with woodworking what other hobbies do the members of this
>group have?

And numberous others contributed an intersting list of activities...

Model railroading here - in fact, that got me into woodworking - small projects
(boxes, clocks, things like that) since I had a good selection of small tools
already.


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> fish line as they are rather heavy after several coats of paint and I'd
> hate to try and fly one and go down in flames after all the hours put in
> building.

This is the process known as re-kitting :-)

Matt Bridges

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I read a lot. Probably a 300 page book a week (think of all the dust and
curlies I could make if my nose wasn't stuck in a book!). I also enjoy
playing chess, bowling, watching sports, and painting the things I've cut
out.

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Phil Anderson

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I have a few coin-op machines in a small game room. A pinball, two upright
video games, a counter top game, a jukebox, a dollar bill changer and five
slot machines. It can be a problem keeping them all going, but so far,
I've had pretty good luck. I will be making some stands for a couple of
the slots. My wife doesn't seem to think they should be on the end tables
in the family room.
Anyway, party time always seems to be at my house.

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rgre...@aol.com (RGreg2738) wrote:
> Along with woodworking what other hobbies do the members of this
group have?
>


Seems that we all have lots of hobbies. Reading the other posts I have
seen many things that I do or have done and one that I always wanted to
try (playin with the birds).

There are two that take up most of my time, first and formost is
staying at home and raising my two boys, 4 and 6 years old. Been the
best six years of my life. Both are wanting to help dad in the shop
with the woodworking and they both are going to get some "real" tools
from Santa this year.

The second is volunteering with the local fire department. Made captain
about a year ago. Have my B firefighter card and am also an EMT
Paramedic and love it. When the kids both get into school I would like
to work part time at a paid department. If I can finish my shop by that
time and get good enough at marketing my wookworking wares, I would
like to go full time with the wood working.

The other intrests that I have and do on a regular basis are camping,
boating, waterskiing, collecting old tools and anything with computers.

Things that I do occasionaly, shooting trap, hunting, control line
model planes, RC boats, maple syruping, old cars & trucks.

I worked on getting my ham ticket till I had a fire and lost all of my
equipment, to many other things more important to buy at the time and
never got back into it, would like to someday though.

Have to mention my wife here also, she married me eight years ago(still
can't understand why), she is not a hobbie rather what makes my life
complete.

Mike

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rgre...@aol.com (RGreg2738) writes:

> Along with woodworking what other hobbies do the members of this group have?

Jewelry making--bead stringing, off- and on-loom beadweaving, setting
faceted stones in snap-in findings, wire wrapping, and so on.

Papercrafts--pop-up cards, origami, making clever little boxes,
folding and pleating paper to put around tea-light candles, pergamo
parchment work, and fancy gift wrapping. Some papier-mache work.

Book binding and book making.

Rearranging, sorting, and generally playing with supplies and
equipment for the previous three.

Poring over catalogs and books to find new materials and new ideas for
first three.

Cooking, particularly candy.

Drawing geometric figures, tessellations, and optical illusions with
water-soluable colored pencils and aquarelles.

Making greeting cards and various decorations, etc, with computer
graphics software and various papers and other supplies.

Candle making and decorating.

Soap making and decorating.

Wreath making and decorating.

Sewing--exercise wear, casual wear, lounge and sleep wear.

Photography.

Needlepoint.

Reading.

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Are you sure it's Mary and not Martha? :-)

-Doug

Mary Shafer

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Doug Winterburn <do...@winterburn.net> writes:

> Are you sure it's Mary and not Martha? :-)

I've never watched Martha or read her books or anything. I'm just a
product of my age, being old enough to have been raised to do things,
not just watch TV (although many of my hobbies can be practiced in the
same room at the TV that's got football, basketball, or car racing
going).

I've never been able to understand how anyone could just sit and watch
TV without some sort of hand work to do or a book to read.

Pam Niedermayer

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All depends on what you're watching. Now I'd hate to spoil a really good movie
without ads interrupting by being distracted by other things. Or a really good
science or history show with no ads. Or a really exciting tennis match between
the ads during court exchange. OTOH, we've gone years with no TV at all, except
for DVD's and video tapes, don't think we've missed anything much.

In fact, I've found that there's little or no point in trying to read and watch
TV at the same time. Seems I don't remember either what I saw or what I read. Of
course, you'd have hand work product to use.

Pam

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Charles Self

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Oct 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/17/00
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Mary Shafer writes:

>I've never watched Martha or read her books or anything. I'm just a
>product of my age, being old enough to have been raised to do things,
>not just watch TV (although many of my hobbies can be practiced in the
>same room at the TV that's got football, basketball, or car racing
>going).

Actually, I can read through anything on TV if the book is any good. The
product of having kids in the house, I think, or maybe it is the grandkids that
produced that, except that I recall doing it back in the '50s before either.

>I've never been able to understand how anyone could just sit and watch
>TV without some sort of hand work to do or a book to read.

Even entertaining TV is non-productive in any sense of mental effort. Jeopardy
may make you think about trivia, but there's virtually nothing else on that
requires mental effort, so a book goes nicely.

rave...@my-deja.com

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Oct 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/17/00
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Mary,
Sometimes I get real stupid! How do you make papier-mache? Need to do
some for landscaping a "mountain" on Christmas village display.
Thanx, Norm

In article <u0em1gq...@orville.dfrc.nasa.gov>,

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Don Rumrill

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I'll toss my hobbies into the hat too: Besides woodworking, marathon
canoe racing (and canoe repair!), rowing (crew), flyfishing and
gardening; both veggies and flowers. I only wish that I had more time
in my week and in my life to do more. I've finally given up downhill
skiing as my knees have said "No more moguls or slalom gates!" but I
still do a little cross-country skiing.

Don "Boat Moon" Rumrill

Terry G

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Oct 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/17/00
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Woodworking is one of my newest hobbies that I am enjoying very much.

Others have been, racing motocross and supercross from 1989 to 1998. I made it to
the intermediate class and was looking to turn professional in another year, but a
bad crash caused me to hang it up. Drag racing my 1969 Mustang for a few years
while in high school. Computers have been a hobby of mine since I was 10 years old
when my Dad bought me a Xerox computer and a cord to connect up to a cassette
player. Soon after that I had my first C-64. And things took off from there.
Welding is also a fairly new hobby I have taken up. I built my first boat trailer
about 2 months ago. Came out real nice. I have been jet skiing for about as long
as I have been riding dirt bikes. I have owned a few street bikes including a
Yamaha V-Max. I enjoy fishing, and have been doing that with my dad since I could
walk. These are a few that I can think of right now.

I am now an RF Engineer and I basically love to design and build anything I can.

Terry

RGreg2738 wrote:

> Along with woodworking what other hobbies do the members of this group have?
>

Matt Bridges

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Oct 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/18/00
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>
> I've never been able to understand how anyone could just sit and watch
> TV without some sort of hand work to do or a book to read.


It drives my SWMBO absolutely crazy when I do this, LOL. You don't even
know how many times I've heard, "How can you watch TV and read at the same
time, yet when you read you don't hear a word I say!?" LOL Just one of my
talents I guess.


--
Matt Bridges

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And You Can Pick Your Nose
But You Can't Pick Your Friend's Nose

Jeepnstein

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I'm kind of new to the group. Mostly lurking in the dark and listening
rather than displaying my lack of knowledge on the topic.

Woodworking is a natural extension of my real hobby which is Home
Remodeling. As that affliction progressed, I found that much of what I
wanted or needed had to be custom, so naturally I set out to take my
skill to the next level. I am not there yet. It's fun to walk through
my home and see my progress. I'm shopping for a money pit to attack in
a couple of years. This last year has been a quantum leap forward in my
attention to accuracy and detail. My shop is small, about 12x16, so
until I can find more appropriate space I will concentrate on learning
joinery and finishing.

I love to lay brick, but I am by no means skilled yet. I did build a
fireplace that turned out just OK. It's safe but no work of art. The
next one will be better, I promise.

Dogs have always been another affliction. I took a couple of years off
after I had to say goodbye to my German Shepherd, Hondo, after twelve
years. I'm meeting alot of pups right now trying to find just the right
fit between man and beast.

I volunteer part-time as a Deputy Sheriff, doing mostly surveillance and
PR details. The challenge of doing the job in a professional and
attentive manner is immense. There is no greater thrill than doing a
building search or a good foot pursuit. I couln't take the cut in pay
to do it full-time and those who do always have my deepest respect.

Travel is my latest money burner. We are planning another trip to Italy
in the spring. This ties into an old love of photography, although I'm
kind of thin on gear right now with only one Olympus OM Body and a
handful of lenses.

I sold all my motorcycles last spring. The Buell was the hardest to
part with.

And then there is politics. I'm quite active on the local level and
have served as a campaign treasurer, as a coordinator, and just doing
the grass-roots thing for years.

Jim

1strecorder

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> >
> > I've never been able to understand how anyone could just sit and watch
> > TV without some sort of hand work to do or a book to read.

My SWMBO always knits or does needlework while watching TV. As she has
often explained that is so no matter how bad the movie is it won't be a
complete wast of two hours.

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The lesser or two evils.

Doug Winterburn

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If one of your passions is cooking, it can meld with woodworking in many
ways. The obvious are cutting boards, knife handles, kitchen islands
and infinite other kitchen/bbq utensils.

Also, I bet I'm not the only one who cuts up ham/beef soup bones on the
bandsaw?

-Doug

Mary Shafer

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rave...@my-deja.com writes:

> Mary,
> Sometimes I get real stupid! How do you make papier-mache? Need to do
> some for landscaping a "mountain" on Christmas village display.

I buy the stuff from a catalog, to be honest, but the basic technique
is to use soft, clean paper (like the newsprint paper that U-Haul
sells for packing) with PVA glue (or wall-paper paste or Elmer's
glue). Tear, don't cut, the paper into moderately-sized strips, as
the ragged edge makes the join harder to see or feel. Then water the
glue down greatly, soak the paper in it until it's sodden but still in
sheet form, and lay it on in layers over a form. Be careful to keep
the thickness constant as much as you can, as thin spots will be
weaker than thick spots and the piece may deform. For sculpting, you
can let the paper soak until it falls apart or use very thin paper,
like tissue paper, and then use the glue-coated paper shreds or
wadded-up tissue, but this won't have as much strength as using paper
in sheet form, so you need to build up a good shell first. It will
also take longer to dry.

To get a nice finish, use white tissue paper for the last layers.
Don't let it soak in the thinned-out glue for very long, though. It
will make a smoother finish that's less absorbant, so you won't have
to put as much paint on it to begin with.

When you get to the final layer, brush over the piece with glue that's
been diluted just enough to brush smoothly. Do this inside and out if
your piece is hollow. Or, spray it with clear matte Krylon (which is
what I do) or do both. This is analogous to the spitcoat of shellac
so often recommended in finishing wood. It seals and protects the
papier mache and prepares it for painting, etc. Then paint it or
decorate it.

You can also get lovely tissue papers with things like dried flowers
in them, or colored tissue, which you can also use for the top layer.
All you need to do with the fancy paper is seal the piece; no painting
or other decorating is required.

You can buy paper that's essentially powdered, which is faster than
soaking it until it disintegrates. I think this comes with the glue
already mixed in and all you do is add water. However, this stuff
takes forever to dry if it's any thickness at all. Plus, it's kind of
gray, not white, and I don't like its looks. Actually, the regular
paper-glue stuff doesn't dry very quickly in thick layers, either. If
you live in a humid climate, you may find that your project will mold
or mildew unless you do it in thin layers, allowing each one to dry
completely before laying the next one on.

A useful technique for saving time and materials, as well as
circumventing the drying time problem, is to start with a form that's
got the general shape you need and lay the papier mache on it. Once
you've got a reasonable thickness made and dried, you can pull the
form out, which will reduce drying time, as the air can circulate on
both sides. In addition, items you make this way will be lighter and
less likely to split apart if dropped. If the form is smooth and
somewhat flexible, you can just put down a damp (water, not glue
solution) piece of white tissue first and you'll be able to pull the
mold out. However, for rigid forms or to be absolutely certain it
will release easily, you can spray the object with some sort of mold
release, like silicone spray, Pam, etc.

I bought a little hexagonal softwood box from a craft supply shop and
made a lid for it by putting a balloon over the box and molding the
lid from papier mache. When it was done, and nearly dry, I cut the
balloon apart, popped off the lid, pulled away the balloon, and let it
dry completely for a couple of days. I'd used colored tissue at the
end and then put sequins and glitter on the tissue after brushing it
with thickish glue. I then put one last layer of very thin white
tissue over it to hold everything in place, brushed that layer with
glue, and added yet more glitter. After it dried, I sprayed it with
gloss Krylon, trimmed the edges evenly, and it was done. The
thickness of the balloon gave it the right amount of ease, too. I
considered putting a bit of dental floss around it, down at the edge,
and folding the paper up over it, to make the edge stronger and less
likely to fray, but decided that this wouldn't get enough use for it
to be an issue.

There's a clear iridescent glitter you can get that sort of mimics the
sparkle of snow, incidentally, but I don't know what it's called.

There's a classic technique from the '50s and early '60s that I really
like for making Christmas decorations. Use blown-up balloons, better
round than oval, as the form for string or heavy perle cotton and
slightly-diluted glue to make open-work balls. You soak the string
generously in the glue and wrap it around the balloon (this is kind of
messy, but kids love it), making sure that you wind it in random
directions and leave a lot of open spaces. You're trying to make
lacework, not a solid ball. Then untie the balloon and pull it out
through an open space. These look really good suspended, particularly
if you can put a frosted low-wattage bulb inside. These cast
beautiful shadows when lit from inside. You can sprinkle the last
layer with glitter, particularly the clear, iridescent kind, to get
the frosty look we associate with Christmas, too.

Tim Rowledge

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> > Along with woodworking what other hobbies do the members of this group
> have?
Although I'm not retired yet (twenty, thirty years maybe) I work at
home in a field that would be my main hobby if I didn't get paid (well)
for it. Aside from Smalltalk systems software development, I build &
ride motorcycles, fly model airplanes, do woodwork, metalwork , amateur
photographer & pornographer and addicted latte drinker.

If I had the time, I'd get back to archery, amateur dramatics, ballet
school stage management (loadsa pretty girls) and maybe even life
drawing.

Sigh.

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