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Ken&Barb

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Jul 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/20/97
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Hackwood wrote:
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> My Porter-Cable air powered nailer says to put 6 or so drops into the air
> inlet port each time it's used unless you have a oil atomizer (or whatever
> it's called) attached, which I don't.
>
> Can I use something like WD-40 or does it have to be a specific viscosity?
>
> HackWood


Air tool oil is pretty cheap, I'd just go to an auto-parts store or home
centre and pick some up. WD40 would probably be OK for emergency use.
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Regards
Ken
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Kurt Doherty

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Ken&Barb wrote:

I use Pneumatic oil for my nail guns. I have used WD-40 as the previous
poster said in a jam but be sure to use a regular oil product
afterwards. Be carefull and aviod lubricants(maybe wd-40 and liquid
wrench) that have solvents in them the solvents will eat away at the
seals in the tool.

Have a good one, Kurt


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Jack Zucker

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Jul 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/20/97
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Kurt Doherty wrote:

> I use Pneumatic oil for my nail guns. I have used WD-40 as the previous
> poster said in a jam but be sure to use a regular oil product
> afterwards. Be carefull and aviod lubricants(maybe wd-40 and liquid
> wrench) that have solvents in them the solvents will eat away at the
> seals in the tool.
>
> Have a good one, Kurt
>

Be careful about using WD-40 or Liquid Wrench. Not only do they eat up
the seals but they also dissolve the oil, defeating the lubrication.

BTW, my PC manual says to use 3 drops of oil, not 6. I suspect that a
small bottom of pneumatic oil will go a long way. I'm still on my first
bottle.

-Jaz

Bev n Ken Shelton

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Jul 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/21/97
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Use air tool oil. You can probably get some small cans at your
local auto parts store. In a pinch, SAE 10 motor oil could be used,
or a heavier oil cut with kerosene. Or 3-in-1 oil. Air tool oil
*IS* the best. BTW, think of WD-40 as solvent, not oil.

Ken

ASTAONE

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Jul 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/21/97
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You need to use an air tool oil, Marvel makes about the best. It can be
purchased for around $5 a quart from most auto parts stores.

Dennis
Houston, TX

Robert

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Jul 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/21/97
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I don't know how flamable wd-40 is but the oil in the gun has to be
designed as to not diesel when you pressure it up then release it. If wd-40
is very flamable you may notice a louder pop when your nailing with it. Not
sure I would want to use anything that wasn't designed for use under
pressure. If you think there isn't enough pressure on a nail gun to cause
dieseling then read about air rifles and why the pump up guns are so much
noisier then the spring guns. It's just a thought and maybe its safe but I
would be very careful about what went into my nail gun for a lub.

Paul A. Byers

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Jul 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/21/97
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> Can I use something like WD-40 or does it have to be a specific viscosity?
> HackWood

WD-40 os not a good oil for this. Its a lot of solvents and is very
flamable. Air Tool oil is cheap and on the shelf of most hardware
stores.

My dad talked me into putting a small auto-oiler on all my nail guns.
They run about $10 at Lowes, Sears, ACE, or most hardware stores in my
area. They are clear plastic so you can see when then need refiled and
they keep to tool oiled automaticly. (Did have to cut the carrying cases
to make the guns fit afterwards. :) )

Pavel

rmk...@earthling.net

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Jul 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/21/97
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In article <19970720192...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,

hack...@aol.com (Hackwood) wrote:
>
> My Porter-Cable air powered nailer says to put 6 or so drops into the air
> inlet port each time it's used unless you have a oil atomizer (or whatever
> it's called) attached, which I don't.
>
> Can I use something like WD-40 or does it have to be a specific viscosity?
>
> HackWood

Whee! Noisy power tool fun!

Oil atomizers are a pain in the butt that have to be kept upright--since
I drag hoses all over tha place, it ain't practical for me either.

I wouldn't use WD-40, as it is not that good a lubricant, and the silicon
in it could be darn hard to get off wood to be finished. I'm also not
sure that the solvent in it would be good for o-rings and other parts of
the nailers.

I use a SENCO oil specifically compounded for air nailer-type tools. I
think the reason is that is seems to be water-soluble, and prevents water
in the air from gumming up the tool. A contractor buddy of mine used
Marvel Mystery Oil for his tools. I'm not sure about that stuff. Six
drops does sound like a lot, but I probably get more than that into my
tools over the course of a day playing in the basement.

I'm using the SENCO oil on Bostich, Craftsman, and other weird brand
nailers, and it seems to keep them working OK. My home shop has a small
oil type compressor with a tank in need of regular draining (I'm in the
Alabama area) because of water accumulation. Water seems to be the main
hazard around here.

--Rich

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Jack Zucker

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Jul 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/21/97
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I don't understand the big deal. Why use something other than what the
manufacturer recommends? Is it to save a few bucks ? If you want to save
money, why stop at power tools? Why not use WD-40 in place of motor oil
in your car? How about fuel-heating oil in the car? That ought to be
pretty cheap too.

-Jaz

Becky Jackson

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Jul 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/21/97
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3 in 1 oil is hard on O-rings use Pneumatic Tool Oil or light weight
non-detergent oil

Jack Zucker

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Jul 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/22/97
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> Don't presume. My query had nothing to do with saving money. I was simply
> curious if I could WD-40 since I have plenty of it around and didn't know
> that tool oil is common and inexpensive. Didn't even know where to buy it
> or what to ask for, so I asked on the forum and am now a lot smarter than
> I was before. Heck, even the librarian was stumped.

I apologize. I didn't mean to come across as so severe. I agree that
much useful info can be gleaned from almost any subject line.

Regarding 5-6 drops of oil - I'm still not convinced. If you're a
hobbiest and use the thing 5 minutes at a time, 5-6 drops of oil a day
for a week straight could end up overdoing things. You may end up with
oil on your workpiece.

-Jaz

Paul Celley

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Jul 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/23/97
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Jack Zucker wrote:

> Regarding 5-6 drops of oil - I'm still not convinced. If you're a
> hobbiest and use the thing 5 minutes at a time, 5-6 drops of oil a day
> for a week straight could end up overdoing things. You may end up with
> oil on your workpiece.
>
> -Jaz
Speaking of oil on the workpiece, has anyone experienced this problem
with normal
oil usage(4-6 drops) per day of decent usage. The reason I asked is I
just returned a SENCO angle finish nailer(oiless) an replaced it with
the Porter Cable that is being discussed. The $250 I saved will surely
come in handy. The PC obviously needs oil, but has anyone who has used
it extensively had problems with getting oil on the work? If so, I would
rather dish out the extra cash for the SENCO and not have to worry about
oil stains on unfinished stock...

Your experiences are appreciated.


Paul Celley
--
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

Bill Pounds

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Jul 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/27/97
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Hackwood wrote:
>
> My Porter-Cable air powered nailer says to put 6 or so drops into the air
> inlet port each time it's used unless you have a oil atomizer (or whatever
> it's called) attached, which I don't.
>
> Can I use something like WD-40 or does it have to be a specific viscosity?
>
> HackWood

Absolutely Not! Never put WD-40, 3 in 1, or any other penetrant in any
pneumtic tool or compressor. It will ruin the seals without question. I
design packaging machinery with extensive pneumatics, and we have seen
maintenance persons who should have known better, do exactly that and
cost their companies thousands of dollars in repairs. Sorry about the
lecture, but this one is a hot button for me. I love WD-40 for many
uses, but it pisses me off that they can't include this basic warning on
the freakin can! Come to think of it, if they have an email address, I'd
love to tell them so.

What you do want to use is very simple. It's SAE-10 weight non-detergent
petroleum based oil. The non-detergent part is important, or you can
swell the seals as well as cause some foaming. You won't find this oil
at most auto parts stores, but any place that sells pneumatic tools or
compressors should have it. My brad nailer came with a small bottle of
the correct oil, and I suspect it is included for self defense reasons.
I am surprised that P-C doesn't do the same.

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Bill Pounds
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