Romex cable stapler - pneumatic?

[JayPique]

Anyone know of a good stapler for Romex? Those little nail-in thingies are tough on my thumbs... I'd prefer pneumatic, but price *is* an issue, so manual "staple gun" style might be ok if it actually works well. thanx
MEW

[Doug Miller]

JayPique <mwskan...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:cf026390-437b-4950...@googlegroups.com:

http://www.cableorganizer.com/gardner-bender/staple-gun/

I bought one of these a few years ago. Works *great* driving staples into any new
construction, not so great with the 55-year-old yellow pine joists in my basement.

[Eric]

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[Larry Jaques]

On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 18:47:42 -0700 (PDT), JayPique
<mwskan...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Anyone know of a good stapler for Romex? Those little nail-in thingies are tough on my thumbs... I'd prefer pneumatic, but price *is* an issue, so manual "staple gun" style might be ok if it actually works well. thanx

Use a pair of needle nose pliers to hold the staples, thus saving your
thumb and forefinger.

Air: I've never seen a pneumatic romex stapler.

Manuals: I've always liked the way Arrow guns work. Try their T-72
model. (Disclaimer: I have no experience with that one here, but have
used the T-50 lots and a T-25 once.)

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[k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz]

On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 18:47:42 -0700 (PDT), JayPique <mwskan...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Anyone know of a good stapler for Romex? Those little nail-in thingies are tough on my thumbs...

You're supposed to use a hammer.

>I'd prefer pneumatic, but price *is* an issue, so manual "staple gun" style might be ok if it actually works well. thanx
>MEW

I have the Gardner Bender stapler. It works pretty well, though sometimes it
doesn't go in all the way or I need a more substantial staple.

[Jim Weisgram]

On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 18:47:42 -0700 (PDT), JayPique
<mwskan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hold the back of your hand to the wood, the staple between your index
and middle finger. It doesn't hurt nearly as much if you hit your hand
that way.

Ditto for many nailing situations.

[Pat Barber]

Now,now....SYP is a softwood.

[Dave Balderstone]

In article <k3sj4o$6oq$1...@dont-email.me>, Pat Barber

And balsa is a hardwood.

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[k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz]

On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 18:26:30 -0600, Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:

>In article <k3sj4o$6oq$1...@dont-email.me>, Pat Barber
><mboce...@att.net> wrote:
>
>> Now,now....SYP is a softwood.
>>
>> On 9/20/2012 7:00 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
>> > I bought one of these a few years ago. Works *great* driving staples into
>> > any new
>> > construction, not so great with the 55-year-old yellow pine joists in my basement.
>> >
>>
>
>And balsa is a hardwood.

Only in the sense that it's deciduous.

[Dave Balderstone]

In article <1kr468h3i0sdr0r11...@4ax.com>,

And 55 year old Douglas Fir (we don't get SYP much up here) is a
softwood only in the sense it's coniferous.

(I know that you know all this... <grin>)

[Pat Barber]

I would gladly give you all the SYP we have for
a decent load of Douglas Fir.

[Swingman]

On 9/26/2012 9:55 AM, Pat Barber wrote:
> I would gladly give you all the SYP we have for
> a decent load of Douglas Fir.

+1

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[Dave Balderstone]

In article <k3v50a$j1k$1...@dont-email.me>, Pat Barber

<mboce...@att.net> wrote:

> I would gladly give you all the SYP we have for
> a decent load of Douglas Fir.

Decent Doug Fir is difficult to find, isn't it? Even here where the
stuff grows.

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like fishing because it�s the one thing I can think of that probably doesn�t. �
John Gierach

[Larry Jaques]

On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 11:13:29 -0500, Swingman <k...@nospam.com> wrote:

>On 9/26/2012 9:55 AM, Pat Barber wrote:
>> I would gladly give you all the SYP we have for
>> a decent load of Douglas Fir.
>
>+1

DF is all we have up here in the PNW. </brag> <g>

Freshly cut, it's as soft as pine. Dry, it's harder than oak.
Import nails bend when they just _see_ aged doug fir. And it handles
cold, rainy weather damnear as well as PT, cedar, or redwood. Amazing.

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[Swingman]

Larry Jaques <lja...@invalid.diversifycomm.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 11:13:29 -0500, Swingman <k...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9/26/2012 9:55 AM, Pat Barber wrote:
>>> I would gladly give you all the SYP we have for
>>> a decent load of Douglas Fir.
>>
>> +1
>
> DF is all we have up here in the PNW. </brag> <g>
>
> Freshly cut, it's as soft as pine. Dry, it's harder than oak.
> Import nails bend when they just _see_ aged doug fir. And it handles
> cold, rainy weather damnear as well as PT, cedar, or redwood. Amazing.

Vertical grain Douglas fir can make some nice looking furniture and carries
a premium price hereabouts.

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[Scott Lurndal]

Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> writes:
>In article <k3v50a$j1k$1...@dont-email.me>, Pat Barber
><mboce...@att.net> wrote:
>
>> I would gladly give you all the SYP we have for
>> a decent load of Douglas Fir.
>
>Decent Doug Fir is difficult to find, isn't it? Even here where the
>stuff grows.

For those in the bay area, Jackel in watsonville has nice new and
recycled doug fir; with the new in 8/4 and 10/4. Reclaimed is hit-n-miss.

[-MIKE-]

I love doug fir and the local big boxes used to carry it, regularly.
Very hard to find, anymore.
I'll ignore the "harder than oak" comment and chalk it up to hyperbole.
:-)


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[Dave Balderstone]

In article <k3vk1p$ias$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, -MIKE-

<mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote:

> On 9/26/12 1:26 PM, Swingman wrote:
> > Larry Jaques <lja...@invalid.diversifycomm.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 11:13:29 -0500, Swingman <k...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 9/26/2012 9:55 AM, Pat Barber wrote:
> >>>> I would gladly give you all the SYP we have for
> >>>> a decent load of Douglas Fir.
> >>>
> >>> +1
> >>
> >> DF is all we have up here in the PNW. </brag> <g>
> >>
> >> Freshly cut, it's as soft as pine. Dry, it's harder than oak.
> >> Import nails bend when they just _see_ aged doug fir. And it handles
> >> cold, rainy weather damnear as well as PT, cedar, or redwood. Amazing.
> >
> > Vertical grain Douglas fir can make some nice looking furniture and carries
> > a premium price hereabouts.
> >
>
> I love doug fir and the local big boxes used to carry it, regularly.
> Very hard to find, anymore.
> I'll ignore the "harder than oak" comment and chalk it up to hyperbole.

You'd be mistaken. Try working with 50 year old DF fourbatooz. You
pretty much have to drill to be able to drive a nail.

--
I used to like fishing because I thought it had some larger significance. Now I

like fishing because itıs the one thing I can think of that probably doesnıt. ­
John Gierach

[-MIKE-]

On 9/26/12 4:25 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <k3vk1p$ias$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, -MIKE-
> <mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9/26/12 1:26 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>> Larry Jaques <lja...@invalid.diversifycomm.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 11:13:29 -0500, Swingman <k...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/26/2012 9:55 AM, Pat Barber wrote:
>>>>>> I would gladly give you all the SYP we have for
>>>>>> a decent load of Douglas Fir.
>>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> DF is all we have up here in the PNW. </brag> <g>
>>>>
>>>> Freshly cut, it's as soft as pine. Dry, it's harder than oak.
>>>> Import nails bend when they just _see_ aged doug fir. And it handles
>>>> cold, rainy weather damnear as well as PT, cedar, or redwood. Amazing.
>>>
>>> Vertical grain Douglas fir can make some nice looking furniture and carries
>>> a premium price hereabouts.
>>>
>>
>> I love doug fir and the local big boxes used to carry it, regularly.
>> Very hard to find, anymore.
>> I'll ignore the "harder than oak" comment and chalk it up to hyperbole.
>
> You'd be mistaken. Try working with 50 year old DF fourbatooz. You
> pretty much have to drill to be able to drive a nail.
>

As hard as Oak?

[Dave Balderstone]

In article <k3vt8s$a8v$3...@speranza.aioe.org>, -MIKE-

<mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote:

> On 9/26/12 4:25 PM, Dave Balderstone wrote:
> > In article <k3vk1p$ias$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, -MIKE-
> > <mi...@mikedrumsDOT.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 9/26/12 1:26 PM, Swingman wrote:
> >>> Larry Jaques <lja...@invalid.diversifycomm.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 11:13:29 -0500, Swingman <k...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 9/26/2012 9:55 AM, Pat Barber wrote:
> >>>>>> I would gladly give you all the SYP we have for
> >>>>>> a decent load of Douglas Fir.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> +1
> >>>>
> >>>> DF is all we have up here in the PNW. </brag> <g>
> >>>>
> >>>> Freshly cut, it's as soft as pine. Dry, it's harder than oak.
> >>>> Import nails bend when they just _see_ aged doug fir. And it handles
> >>>> cold, rainy weather damnear as well as PT, cedar, or redwood. Amazing.
> >>>
> >>> Vertical grain Douglas fir can make some nice looking furniture and
> >>> carries
> >>> a premium price hereabouts.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I love doug fir and the local big boxes used to carry it, regularly.
> >> Very hard to find, anymore.
> >> I'll ignore the "harder than oak" comment and chalk it up to hyperbole.
> >
> > You'd be mistaken. Try working with 50 year old DF fourbatooz. You
> > pretty much have to drill to be able to drive a nail.
> >
>
> As hard as Oak?

Easily.

[-MIKE-]

Doubt it. But I'm sure it's on the Janka hardness scale if you say so.
:-)

[Dave Balderstone]

In article <k401b4$jlg$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, -MIKE-

Pedant...

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like fishing because it�s the one thing I can think of that probably doesn�t. �
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[Larry Jaques]

VG carries a hefty price anywhere. VG cedar in a stain-grade tubasix
is $8-12/lf here, special order. Dunno 'bout VGDF.

[-MIKE-]

You may want to google the word, "hyperbole."

[Dave Balderstone]

In article <k40745$ukd$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, -MIKE-

No need. And I never referred to Janka hardness. <g>

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like fishing because itıs the one thing I can think of that probably doesnıt. ­
John Gierach

[-MIKE-]

I'm not the one who insisted DF gets as hard as oak. In fact, I
specifically let it alone because I knew it was hyperbole, speaking
figuratively. That was fine with me.

But then some other guy insisted it was, actually. And I call bullshit.

[Mike M]

On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 13:26:30 -0500, Swingman <k...@nospam.com> wrote:

My property is primarily Fir, Cedar, and Hemlock with some Maple and
Wild Cherry. I'm mostly taking out the 130' tall multi headed
Hemlocks so I can sleep better at night. With some of the Doug Fir
that came down on the neighbors property as I was splitting rounds I
probably put 25% to one side to be resawn for boxes ect. A tree guy
I do some work for hauling chips or excavator work got to log part of
an old growth forest. He's got 5' diameter rounds about 6' long
that's he is taking to the mill to have it cut for doing his floor. He
will also get it kiln dried. Wonderful colors in old fir. I did my
living room trim in clear straight grain fir with an oil finish.

Mike M

[Mike Marlow]

Mike M wrote:

>
> My property is primarily Fir, Cedar, and Hemlock with some Maple and
> Wild Cherry. I'm mostly taking out the 130' tall multi headed
> Hemlocks so I can sleep better at night.

Wow - that's weird, at least around here it would be weird. We don't see
multiple heads on Hemlock around here. 130' is also a really good height.
Not sure how often you could find that kind of height around here - usually
more like 60' or so.

> With some of the Doug Fir
> that came down on the neighbors property as I was splitting rounds I
> probably put 25% to one side to be resawn for boxes ect. A tree guy
> I do some work for hauling chips or excavator work got to log part of
> an old growth forest. He's got 5' diameter rounds about 6' long
> that's he is taking to the mill to have it cut for doing his floor. He
> will also get it kiln dried. Wonderful colors in old fir. I did my
> living room trim in clear straight grain fir with an oil finish.

Sweet. I don't think we have any amount of DF around here anymore, let
alone stuff that big around. You can find hard maple around that is that
size or even bigger, but even that is getting hard to find. Nice to be able
to score that and mill it into what you want.

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-Mike-
mmarlo...@windstream.net

[Mike M]

Here's one of them coming down.
http://s1185.photobucket.com/albums/z345/H20Slider/Tree%20Work/?action=view&current=201011040946482.mp4

Here's a picture of the stump from that tree. Took me 3 days to dig
it out and had to rent a bigger excavator in the end.

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z345/H20Slider/Equipment/photo2.jpg

I'm in the foothills of W. Washington so there still some tall stuff.
The hemlock isn't worth hauling to the mill, and the Doug Fir is
pretty low right now that it's shocking when you go to buy it. I was
going to finance a woodmiser sawmill for the tree guy but it didn't
pan out do to various complications.

Mike M