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Paslode vs. pneumatic type nailers

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RMartino

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Apr 1, 2002, 8:21:53 AM4/1/02
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Hello group,

Again I look to your advice. Still in process of beefing up workshop and
buying tools as I need them. Having put up crown molding in my new son's
nursery/bedroom I have decided that I need a finishing nailer. Right now I am
interested in the CP combo but I looked at a Paslode nailer. Interesting
device, I guess it uses a fuel cell to drive a piston?

Any advice experience. As a frame of reference, we have a new house and wife
wants crown molding in practically every room so the nailer will get used a
lot. Plus many of my projects from bird houses to shelves would benefit from a
nailer.

Regards,
Bob

Leon

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Apr 1, 2002, 8:50:28 AM4/1/02
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I have a lot of experience with the Paslode airless framing nailer and a
Senco air type finish nailer. Both are good tools. The Paslode, if like
the framing gun uses a fuel cell and a rechargeable battery. You get A LOT
of mileage with the fuel cell and battery. Cost of the replacement fuel
cells is very reasonable. Somewhere around $12.00 for a 2-pack.

If you have a have no other need for a compressor, I would advise the
Paslode airless. If you will ever need a compressor for any other reason
other than to power a nail gun, I would advise at least a 20 gallon oil type
compressor.

Bannerstone

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Apr 1, 2002, 11:06:06 AM4/1/02
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I pondered the pasloade angled finish nailer so I borrowed one from a friend
for a while and it ticked me off when I realized that it required pasloade nails
because the angle was unique. I bothers me when manufacturers design
proprietary consumables in to their products, as if the fuel cells and batteries
weren't enough.

Otherwise, from my brief use, I think its a good tool but its a tool best suited
for a punch out carpenter because of the smaller volume of work required per
job. Also it seems well suited for exterior trim work when working off the
ground on ladders, etc where dragging the hose around would really slow you
down. The framing version of this gun is a bit restrictive for volume work
because of its recovery time but still a great tool for punch out.

I'd say for around the home and shop go pneumatic. If you're on a different
site every day the airless is a good compliment to your pneumatic guns.

Oh and in a pinch, there's this thing called a hammer. :)

David

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Dave

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Apr 1, 2002, 12:58:45 PM4/1/02
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Bob,

I'm with you on the new house, new baby, and a wife who wants moulding
everywhere!

I've got the Paslode TrimMaster cordless angled finish nailer, and I
would not give it up for all the tea in China! I just trimmed out our
family room this past weekend. It's an open 2 story room, and not having
to have the air compressor and hoses dangling all over the place and up
and down the ladders and scaffolding was a huge plus. I've also got the
regular air-compressor powered nailers, and they work great, but the air
hoses are just a PITA when I'm going up and down scaffolding all day. To
do the whole room (crown, chair rail, shadow boxes, picture boxes, 2
doors, and 6 windows) I went through 1 fuel cell, 1 battery charge, and
half a box of nails. It's a pricey tool, but well worth it if you're
going to do a lot of projects. I've also used it with 1.25" finish nails
as a lazy man's brad nailer.

Regards,
Dave

Vernon Montique

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Apr 1, 2002, 8:37:03 PM4/1/02
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Hi Bob,

Do your self a favor and spend the money on the Paslode. I've
been a professional cabinetmaker, carpenter, and timberframer
for over 25 years, and i have found these guns not only a joy to
work with, but a big money saver in the long run. We have both
air nailers and Paslodes on the job we are working on now.

When it comes to framing a house, the air guns are the most cost
effective. But when the bulk of the framing is done, and everybody
starts working at the smaller projects, and even when you get into doing
the blocking, the cordlessness of the Paslode makes it the King. The
time saved in setting up the compressor, running and wrestling with
hoses makes it THE tool. The time savings is very large.

When it is time for finish work, once again it is the cordessness of the
Paslode that makes it SHINE. Finish work moves along, and this tool
moves with you. Once again, no compressor noise, no wrestling with
hoses, and NO MARKS ON THE PAINTED WALLS because of hoses!

The key to this tool is the freedom of movement that you gain.

So, If you need a nailer that can go anywhere, Grab the Paslode.

Hope this helps.

Mike

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Wayne Cannon

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Apr 3, 2002, 7:32:48 PM4/3/02
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I use Senco nails in my Paslode angled finish nailer. The nails are a slightly
different angle (2 degrees?) but I haven't experienced any problems, jams, etc.

I just got a call to pick up my wife, so I can't run out to the shop and get
you exact numbers right now.

--Wayne

Bannerstone wrote:

> I pondered the pasloade angled finish nailer so I borrowed one from a friend
> for a while and it ticked me off when I realized that it required pasloade nails
> because the angle was unique. I bothers me when manufacturers design
> proprietary consumables in to their products, as if the fuel cells and batteries
> weren't enough.

> ...


> David
>
> In article <20020401082153...@mb-cb.aol.com>, rmar...@aol.com
> says...
>
>>Hello group,
>>
>>Again I look to your advice. Still in process of beefing up workshop and
>>buying tools as I need them. Having put up crown molding in my new son's
>>nursery/bedroom I have decided that I need a finishing nailer. Right now I am
>>interested in the CP combo but I looked at a Paslode nailer. Interesting
>>device, I guess it uses a fuel cell to drive a piston?
>>
>>Any advice experience. As a frame of reference, we have a new house and wife
>>wants crown molding in practically every room so the nailer will get used a
>>lot. Plus many of my projects from bird houses to shelves would benefit from a
>>nailer.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Bob
>>
>


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Wayne Cannon

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Apr 4, 2002, 12:57:08 PM4/4/02
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I lied. I'm using Paslode angled finish nails. The off-angle Senco nails I'm
using are for P-C pneumatic framing nailer. --Wayne

Wayne Cannon wrote:

> I use Senco nails in my Paslode angled finish nailer. The nails are a
> slightly different angle (2 degrees?) but I haven't experienced any
> problems, jams, etc.
>
> I just got a call to pick up my wife, so I can't run out to the shop and
> get you exact numbers right now.
>
> --Wayne

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Bannerstone

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Apr 4, 2002, 2:17:22 PM4/4/02
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In article <3CAC945...@sonic.net>, Wayne says...

>
>I lied. I'm using Paslode angled finish nails. The off-angle Senco nails I'm
>using are for P-C pneumatic framing nailer. --Wayne

Thanks man, you had me going there for a bit. :) I'm a big Senco fan and PC
for that very reason.

David

John

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Apr 5, 2002, 7:58:01 AM4/5/02
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Senco nails did not work in my paslode framer. left 15mm 1/2" of the nail up and
bent it 180 degrees. The nail looked like the letter J upside down. I went back to
genuine paslode right away because risking Possible damage to firing pin.

John

Mark Thieme

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Apr 5, 2002, 7:14:07 PM4/5/02
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Personally, I prefer air - which is what I think this topic boils down to -
personal preference.
One friend of mine (in construction) prefers Paslode.
However, I see more air nailers on job sites than "cordless".
Always wondered about PC bammers though.
Mark from Pasdena, MD

Joe Tylicki

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Apr 6, 2002, 10:27:18 PM4/6/02
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I was discussing Paslode vs. Air nailer with one of the guys behind
the counter at the local hardware store, and he showed me some
documentation on a brand new, battery only, nailer which is coming out
in a few months. I don't recall which model it was, but I saw a price
of $299, which is about $50-$80 cheaper than what this store sells the
Paslodes for. It claimed 1000 firings between chargings. It was made
by either Senco or Bostich I believe.

Joe


Randall Thomas

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Apr 7, 2002, 3:17:40 AM4/7/02
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I've got two bammers, and haven't had any problems with them, but I think I may be
the only one who hasn't. The bammers are dirt cheap on ebay right now. If you get a
bammer be sure to break it in like the instructions say, (fire off a rapid sequence
to get it heated up). If you intend to do mostly crown molding with it, buy the CDA
250, it is the angle feed 15gauge nailer, and is easier to get into the corners with.

Wayne Cannon

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Apr 8, 2002, 8:21:10 PM4/8/02
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Porter-Cable has a battery-operated (finish?) nailer. It can run off of either
battery or compressed air -- the battery runs a little on-board compressor.
Sounds heavy and slow to me, but I haven't tried it or read much about it. --Wayne

Joe Tylicki wrote:

Joe Tylicki

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Apr 10, 2002, 11:19:58 PM4/10/02
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Apparently, this is going to much different, as he has the PC model
there that you are talking about.

Joe

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