Mitre guillotine v compound mitre saw
Richard Fulton
guillotine(trimmer) give better results than a compound mitre saw. I would
also like to make small boxes and have heard the some boxmakers use a
guillotine to make accurate mitre corners on small boxes.
Any help or advice would be gratefully received.
Richard Fulton
ric...@rowallane.demon.co.uk
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it to the EXACT size/angle.
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Bernie Hunt
Get the blades nice and sharp and tie the thing down to something nice and
stable and you can cut glass smooth surfaces at any angle you like. You just
have to remember that the mitre trimmer likes to take off slices. It won't
cut to length.
I gave my plumber a paper thin slice of 4" crown molding as a sovenier. Mine
was laying in the middle of the floor and he tried to move it to get the mat
it was sitting on. It was so sharp he didn't even notice the cuts till he
felt something wet on his are. Sharp and powerful.
Bernie
PS: Got mine from the Good Merchant of Aushby. The guy at the sharpening
shop already offered me more for my 50 year old blades than I paid for the
whole thing. Apparently they don't use the same steel anymore.
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Andrew Barss
: I want to make some picture frames and was wondering would a mitre
: guillotine(trimmer) give better results than a compound mitre saw.
In my experience, yes. A good mitre trimmer (I recommend the US-made
pootatuck machine, rather than the imported knockoff) will give you
endgrain cuts that are so smooth they'll actually reflect light. A CMS
has a couple of drawbacks: it can produce tearout on the back of the
workpiece (you can work around this by building backer board jigs), and
it's a big, powerful machine that I wouldn't want to try to cut 1/1000"
off the end of a 3/4" piece of molding with (you can make cuts that small
with a mitre trimmer).
If you're serious about mitred moldings, or for the other sorts of
precision work you're describing, get the guillotine.
-- Andrew Barss
Dave Beyerl
<ric...@rowallane.demon.co.uk>, wrote:
> I want to make some picture frames and was wondering would a mitre
> also like to make small boxes and have heard the some boxmakers use a
> guillotine to make accurate mitre corners on small boxes.
Yes, the miter guillotine(trimmer) will produce better
finished results. However, as the name trimmer implies, it is
meant for fine-tuning trim cuts and not the initial cut-off to
approximate final length. Since the miter guillotine is not
intended to perform that task you will need to get both a miter
saw and the miter trimmer, or be prepared to lay out big bucks
to keep the blade sharp so you can get the fine finish you
want. Depending on the type of boxes and other work you may
have in mind, a plain miter saw rather than a compound miter saw
may be just fine in your application.
Paul Womack
>
> I want to make some picture frames and was wondering would a mitre
> guillotine(trimmer) give better results than a compound mitre saw. I would
> also like to make small boxes and have heard the some boxmakers use a
> guillotine to make accurate mitre corners on small boxes.
>
>
Err. For picture frames and "simple" boxes you don't need
a "compound mitre saw". You need a "mitre saw".
Other alternatives you don't mention are:
* Hand operated mitre saw (Nobex is top-o-the-heap)
* Mitre shooting boards with the sharpest plane you can manage.
Oh, and my local builder/joiner uses the APTC mitre
guillotine, and speaks highly of it (I notice you have
a UK mail address)
With regards to the "guillotines only trim" idea, it's true,
but you could happily make the initial cut with a backsaw
in a "mitre box" (you know, the 2.50 GPB things you hated at school)
and then trim.
BugBear
shavings
"Bernie Hunt" <bh...@optonline.net> wrote:
> PS: Got mine from the Good Merchant of Aushby. The guy at the
sharpening
> shop already offered me more for my 50 year old blades than I paid for
the
> whole thing. Apparently they don't use the same steel anymore.
What'd he charge you for sharpening, if you don;'t mind me asking?
Would you reccomend him?
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"Richard Fulton" <ric...@rowallane.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> I want to make some picture frames and was wondering would a mitre
> guillotine(trimmer) give better results than a compound mitre saw.
I was raised using a guillotine cutter for moulding and other angle
cutting work. They are wonderful. Several posters commented that you
need to cut the piece to a 45 degree angle first, and I would say that
we never did that. We cut the piece slightly longer, and at a 90
degrees. Then we just trimmed off 1/8" slices of the 90 degree cut to
make it into a 45 degree cut. A sharp trimmer can do those cuts in
less than a minute. Then 1/32" to 1/64" slices would be made to get
the cut perfect. A good guillotine will make the end grain smoother
than 220 grit polished face grain. Toss in a bisquick and some glue
and joint of two 45s meeting to form a 90 degree will disappear. Truely
a perfect joint. My father was from the old school and he hated the
cuts that mitre saws made. He said and prooved many a time that he
could tell between moulding angles made with a trimmer vs a mitre saw.
Brook
Bernie Hunt
so I don't really remember. He has the contract for sharpening the Zamboni
knives for the NY Islanders every night before the game. Now that's a big
stone, hahahahaha.
Yes I would recommend him, but I haven't sent any saw blades or other knives
to him yet.
Bernie
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> In article <8apmnk$ana$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>,
> "Bernie Hunt" <bh...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> > PS: Got mine from the Good Merchant of Aushby. The guy at the
> sharpening
> > shop already offered me more for my 50 year old blades than I paid for
> the
> > whole thing. Apparently they don't use the same steel anymore.
>
> What'd he charge you for sharpening, if you don;'t mind me asking?
> Would you reccomend him?
>
>
> --
> John Gunterman
> http://www.shavings.net
>
>
Richard Fulton
trimmer!
Richard Fulton
Richard Fulton wrote in message
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>I want to make some picture frames and was wondering would a mitre
>guillotine(trimmer) give better results than a compound mitre saw. I would
>also like to make small boxes and have heard the some boxmakers use a
>guillotine to make accurate mitre corners on small boxes.
>
>Any help or advice would be gratefully received.
>
>Richard Fulton
>ric...@rowallane.demon.co.uk
>
>