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Bill

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Apr 5, 2011, 12:25:03 AM4/5/11
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I just happen to have this 32" torsion spring with a 2" i.d. left over
from an obvious home repair. I placed it in the garbage, at first, but
I retrieved it--in case it may be valuable! ; )

Seriously, is it material suitable for making any sort of wood cutter?
If it is, I think I can get a lot of 'em out of the spring!

Bill

Lobby Dosser

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Apr 5, 2011, 1:22:49 AM4/5/11
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>I just happen to have this 32" torsion spring with a 2" i.d. left over from
>an obvious home repair. I placed it in the garbage, at first, but I
>retrieved it--in case it may be valuable! ; )

You don't recycle where you live?

Doug Miller

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Apr 5, 2011, 7:10:07 AM4/5/11
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Scrap steel brings about $225/ton, or around eleven cents a pound. He'd most
likely spend more on gasoline taking to a recycler than he'd get back in scrap
value.

Drew Lawson

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Apr 5, 2011, 8:45:14 AM4/5/11
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In article <ine8va$mei$1...@dont-email.me>

I recycle where I live, but I've never lived anywhere that the
recycling pickup/dropoff would take steel other than food cans.

I'm digging out a 6' steel pole ('70s style satellite dish post)
in the back yard, and I have no idea what I'll do with it when it
is out of the ground.

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| some memories last forever

dadiOH

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Apr 5, 2011, 8:53:39 AM4/5/11
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Maybe you could make some sort of catapult and use it for disposing of
things the trash men won't take. Like dead cats :)


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RonB

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Apr 5, 2011, 9:12:11 AM4/5/11
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On Apr 5, 7:53 am, "dadiOH" <dad...@invalid.com> wrote:
> Bill wrote:
> > I just happen to have this 32" torsion spring with a 2" i.d. left over
> > from an obvious home repair.  I placed it in the garbage, at first,
> > but I retrieved it--in case it may be valuable!  ; )
>
> > Seriously, is it material suitable for making any sort of wood cutter?
> > If it is, I think I can get a lot of 'em out of the spring!
>
> Maybe you could make some sort of catapult and use it for disposing of
> things the trash men won't take.  Like dead cats  :)
>
...or live ones!


Ron

Doug Miller

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Apr 5, 2011, 9:59:35 AM4/5/11
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In article <2a08f8bf-24ff-4c1d...@w6g2000vbo.googlegroups.com>, RonB <rnrb...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Apr 5, 7:53=A0am, "dadiOH" <dad...@invalid.com> wrote:
>> Bill wrote:
>> > I just happen to have this 32" torsion spring with a 2" i.d. left over
>> > from an obvious home repair. =A0I placed it in the garbage, at first,
>> > but I retrieved it--in case it may be valuable! =A0; )

>>
>> > Seriously, is it material suitable for making any sort of wood cutter?
>> > If it is, I think I can get a lot of 'em out of the spring!
>>
>> Maybe you could make some sort of catapult and use it for disposing of
>> things the trash men won't take. =A0Like dead cats =A0:)
>>
>....or live ones!

Of course. Why do you think they call it a CATapult??

Luigi Zanasi

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Apr 5, 2011, 10:05:25 AM4/5/11
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On Apr 5, 5:53 am, "dadiOH" <dad...@invalid.com> wrote:
> Bill wrote:
> > I just happen to have this 32" torsion spring with a 2" i.d. left over
> > from an obvious home repair.  I placed it in the garbage, at first,
> > but I retrieved it--in case it may be valuable!  ; )
>
> > Seriously, is it material suitable for making any sort of wood cutter?
> > If it is, I think I can get a lot of 'em out of the spring!
>
> Maybe you could make some sort of catapult and use it for disposing of
> things the trash men won't take.  Like dead cats  :)

What a waste! Don't you know that dead cats make great push sticks.

Luigi
who squirrelled away a couple of garage door springs in his garage for
20 years (but not on the door) until he gave them to a locals sculptor
last year.

Bill

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Apr 5, 2011, 11:01:56 AM4/5/11
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Come on now. No fighting to be first in line to buy it!!!
New one's are going for upwards of $60. This one's already been cut in
two for easier storage! Serious offers only (please).

Bill

Josepi

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Apr 5, 2011, 11:29:34 AM4/5/11
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GEEESH! Talk to the solar PV people, especially if you have the mechanism.
Somebody will want to build a solar tracker from that one.

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dadiOH

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Apr 5, 2011, 12:49:59 PM4/5/11
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If you lived in central Florida you could just put it out by the street and
someone would steal it within a couple of hours. I get rid of all sorts of
stuff that way, gotta drag an old fiberglass jon boat that someone left on
my property down there pretty soon.

Drew Lawson

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In article <4d9b4831$0$1405$882e...@usenet-news.net>
"dadiOH" <dad...@invalid.com> writes:

>Drew Lawson wrote:
>>
>> I'm digging out a 6' steel pole ('70s style satellite dish post)
>> in the back yard, and I have no idea what I'll do with it when it
>> is out of the ground.
>
>If you lived in central Florida you could just put it out by the street and
>someone would steal it within a couple of hours. I get rid of all sorts of
>stuff that way, gotta drag an old fiberglass jon boat that someone left on
>my property down there pretty soon.

That's how I get rid of lots of semi-useless stuff, but in the
pick-up sense rather than stealing. Our house is on a common
cut-through-the-neighborhoods path, so things with a "free" sign
don't last long. (I have an extra string trimmer I need to put
out. Any mechanic could probably make it run, but I'm no mechanic.)

We aren't in a wealthy area, but definitely a "not hurting" part
of town, so some people seem to make intentional shopping trips
around trash day. That's especially true in better weather.


--
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| intoxicated, could not explain his nudity."

chaniarts

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Apr 5, 2011, 1:55:14 PM4/5/11
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dadiOH wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>> I just happen to have this 32" torsion spring with a 2" i.d. left
>> over from an obvious home repair. I placed it in the garbage, at
>> first, but I retrieved it--in case it may be valuable! ; )
>>
>> Seriously, is it material suitable for making any sort of wood
>> cutter? If it is, I think I can get a lot of 'em out of the spring!
>
>
> Maybe you could make some sort of catapult and use it for disposing of
> things the trash men won't take. Like dead cats :)

that begs the question: why won't they take dead cats? i put dead pack rats
in my trash can (not the recycling one though).

(or not so dead, as my wife found out one night as she was making the late
night deposit, which was the last time she ever did so)


Lobby Dosser

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Apr 6, 2011, 12:01:25 AM4/6/11
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Out here we can take it to the curb. Reminding me that tonight's the night
...

Lobby Dosser

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Apr 6, 2011, 12:05:23 AM4/6/11
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"Drew Lawson" <dr...@furrfu.invalid> wrote in message
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Where I live (Portland, or area), if it's legal (your pipe would be) and
fits in the bin it's good to go. If it can't fit in the bin you can take it
to the recycler or pay $35 for a pu load at the dump. Our dump won't take
fluorescent bulbs or paint; they have to go to a special central recycling
center.

Lobby Dosser

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Apr 6, 2011, 12:07:23 AM4/6/11
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"Drew Lawson" <dr...@furrfu.invalid> wrote in message
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> In article <4d9b4831$0$1405$882e...@usenet-news.net>
> "dadiOH" <dad...@invalid.com> writes:
>>Drew Lawson wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm digging out a 6' steel pole ('70s style satellite dish post)
>>> in the back yard, and I have no idea what I'll do with it when it
>>> is out of the ground.
>>
>>If you lived in central Florida you could just put it out by the street
>>and
>>someone would steal it within a couple of hours. I get rid of all sorts
>>of
>>stuff that way, gotta drag an old fiberglass jon boat that someone left on
>>my property down there pretty soon.
>
> That's how I get rid of lots of semi-useless stuff, but in the
> pick-up sense rather than stealing. Our house is on a common
> cut-through-the-neighborhoods path, so things with a "free" sign
> don't last long. (I have an extra string trimmer I need to put
> out. Any mechanic could probably make it run, but I'm no mechanic.)

Reminds me, got a couple junker lawnmowers need to go to the curb with a
sign ...

Lobby Dosser

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Apr 6, 2011, 12:08:06 AM4/6/11
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"dadiOH" <dad...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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> Bill wrote:
>> I just happen to have this 32" torsion spring with a 2" i.d. left over
>> from an obvious home repair. I placed it in the garbage, at first,
>> but I retrieved it--in case it may be valuable! ; )
>>
>> Seriously, is it material suitable for making any sort of wood cutter?
>> If it is, I think I can get a lot of 'em out of the spring!
>
>
> Maybe you could make some sort of catapult and use it for disposing of
> things the trash men won't take. Like dead cats :)

That's what the beefy plastic bags are made for ...

Larry Jaques

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Apr 6, 2011, 12:56:11 AM4/6/11
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On Tue, 5 Apr 2011 21:05:23 -0700, "Lobby Dosser" <L...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

Fluor bulb cost: $2 each.
Fluor bulb recycling area: Portland only, nowhere else in Oregon.
Fluor bulb recycling cost: ONLY $4, delivered to the recycler.

"Uckfay atthay itshay!" sez I. I recycle everything else, though, and
when they make it convenient to recycle fluor tubes, I'll do those.
As it is, it's a tax on eco idiots by gov't approved scammers.

--
You do not need a parachute to skydive.
You only need a parachute to skydive twice.

Bill

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Apr 6, 2011, 1:29:15 AM4/6/11
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For disguising the cats or as freezer bags? What about the tail? ; )

Lobby Dosser

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"Larry Jaques" <lja...@invalid.diversify.com> wrote in message
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Did not know that. How about the big box stores down there, do they take
them? The electronic and office supply places up here all take printer ink
cartridges and various batteries. I think they also recycle laser printer
cartridges.

A BTW for pet owners, don't let them get at any of those button batteries
(infants and children too, I guess)! If swallowed, the damn things light off
and burn holes!

Lobby Dosser

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Apr 6, 2011, 3:48:04 AM4/6/11
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Tie it to a back leg ...

Jerry - OHIO

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Apr 6, 2011, 4:51:26 AM4/6/11
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If you have scrap tires put them in the front yard with a $50.00 'for
sale' sign on them and when it gets dark someone will steal them! Worked
twice for me!

JR


http://community.webtv.net/awoodbutcher/MyWoodWorkingPage


Steve Barker

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Apr 6, 2011, 9:45:32 AM4/6/11
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put it in the iron pile?

Throw it in a ditch?

cut it up and put it in your trash?

dig a deeper hole?

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Steve Barker

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Apr 6, 2011, 9:56:13 AM4/6/11
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Does that make this a squirrelapult?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBb7KReY6Eg

Steve Barker

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Apr 6, 2011, 9:59:37 AM4/6/11
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I just javelin them sonabitches into the dumpster and they disappear.

Steve Barker

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Apr 6, 2011, 10:02:02 AM4/6/11
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had a friend got rid of a push mower that way. Took his new one,
started mowing, then put the old one right where he left off, and it was
gone the next morning.

Larry Jaques

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Apr 6, 2011, 10:31:22 AM4/6/11
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There's an idea. Triplebag the dead cats in your freezer, putting
them out only the night before pickup so they don't give themselves
away by smelling up the can.

If only we had more Asian restaurants in town...

--
Some people are like Slinkies ... not really good for
anything, but you can't help smiling when you see one
tumble down the stairs.

Larry Jaques

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Apr 6, 2011, 10:36:00 AM4/6/11
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We have guys here in town who advertise that they collect all old
scrap metal, which they sell to the metal recycler. Free pickup.
See your local newspaper classified ads.

Or you could make something out of it. Retask these things, guys.

Bill

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Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 01:29:15 -0400, Bill<Bi...@NOSPAM.net> wrote:
>
>> Lobby Dosser wrote:
>>> "dadiOH"<dad...@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4d9b1115$0$27702$a826...@newsreader.readnews.com...
>>>> Bill wrote:
>>>>> I just happen to have this 32" torsion spring with a 2" i.d. left over
>>>>> from an obvious home repair. I placed it in the garbage, at first,
>>>>> but I retrieved it--in case it may be valuable! ; )
>>>>>
>>>>> Seriously, is it material suitable for making any sort of wood cutter?
>>>>> If it is, I think I can get a lot of 'em out of the spring!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you could make some sort of catapult and use it for disposing of
>>>> things the trash men won't take. Like dead cats :)
>>>
>>> That's what the beefy plastic bags are made for ...
>>
>> For disguising the cats or as freezer bags? What about the tail? ; )
>
> There's an idea. Triplebag the dead cats in your freezer, putting
> them out only the night before pickup so they don't give themselves
> away by smelling up the can.

LOL - How many do you have???

Lobby Dosser

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"Larry Jaques" <lja...@invalid.diversify.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 08:45:32 -0500, Steve Barker
> <ichase...@notgmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 4/5/2011 7:45 AM, Drew Lawson wrote:
>>> In article<ine8va$mei$1...@dont-email.me>
>>> "Lobby Dosser"<L...@invalid.invalid> writes:
>>>> "Bill"<Bi...@NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:ine5j...@news5.newsguy.com...
>>>>> I just happen to have this 32" torsion spring with a 2" i.d. left over
>>>>> from
>>>>> an obvious home repair. I placed it in the garbage, at first, but I
>>>>> retrieved it--in case it may be valuable! ; )
>>>>
>>>> You don't recycle where you live?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I recycle where I live, but I've never lived anywhere that the
>>> recycling pickup/dropoff would take steel other than food cans.
>>>
>>> I'm digging out a 6' steel pole ('70s style satellite dish post)
>>> in the back yard, and I have no idea what I'll do with it when it
>>> is out of the ground.
>>>
>>
>>put it in the iron pile?
>>
>>Throw it in a ditch?
>>
>>cut it up and put it in your trash?
>>
>>dig a deeper hole?
>
> We have guys here in town who advertise that they collect all old
> scrap metal, which they sell to the metal recycler. Free pickup.
> See your local newspaper classified ads.

Guys that do that in the Portland area also. Problem is they don't ask
before they remove the guard rails and stop signs ....

Lobby Dosser

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"Larry Jaques" <lja...@invalid.diversify.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 01:29:15 -0400, Bill <Bi...@NOSPAM.net> wrote:
>
>>Lobby Dosser wrote:
>>> "dadiOH" <dad...@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4d9b1115$0$27702$a826...@newsreader.readnews.com...
>>>> Bill wrote:
>>>>> I just happen to have this 32" torsion spring with a 2" i.d. left over
>>>>> from an obvious home repair. I placed it in the garbage, at first,
>>>>> but I retrieved it--in case it may be valuable! ; )
>>>>>
>>>>> Seriously, is it material suitable for making any sort of wood cutter?
>>>>> If it is, I think I can get a lot of 'em out of the spring!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you could make some sort of catapult and use it for disposing of
>>>> things the trash men won't take. Like dead cats :)
>>>
>>> That's what the beefy plastic bags are made for ...
>>
>>For disguising the cats or as freezer bags? What about the tail? ; )
>
> There's an idea. Triplebag the dead cats in your freezer, putting
> them out only the night before pickup so they don't give themselves
> away by smelling up the can.
>
> If only we had more Asian restaurants in town...
>

Chinese restaurant in town near where I was stationed in England got shut
down for that and serving cat Food (the canned kind). Most of us ate at the
Indian places, but I was always suspicious of the teensy tiny drumsticks in
the Tandoori Chicken ...

Lobby Dosser

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"Bill" <Bi...@NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
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> Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 01:29:15 -0400, Bill<Bi...@NOSPAM.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Lobby Dosser wrote:
>>>> "dadiOH"<dad...@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4d9b1115$0$27702$a826...@newsreader.readnews.com...
>>>>> Bill wrote:
>>>>>> I just happen to have this 32" torsion spring with a 2" i.d. left
>>>>>> over
>>>>>> from an obvious home repair. I placed it in the garbage, at first,
>>>>>> but I retrieved it--in case it may be valuable! ; )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seriously, is it material suitable for making any sort of wood
>>>>>> cutter?
>>>>>> If it is, I think I can get a lot of 'em out of the spring!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe you could make some sort of catapult and use it for disposing of
>>>>> things the trash men won't take. Like dead cats :)
>>>>
>>>> That's what the beefy plastic bags are made for ...
>>>
>>> For disguising the cats or as freezer bags? What about the tail? ; )
>>
>> There's an idea. Triplebag the dead cats in your freezer, putting
>> them out only the night before pickup so they don't give themselves
>> away by smelling up the can.
>
> LOL - How many do you have???
>

I've got three. All of them bigger than the dog.

Lobby Dosser

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"Steve Barker" <ichase...@notgmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 4/6/2011 3:51 AM, Jerry - OHIO wrote:
>> If you have scrap tires put them in the front yard with a $50.00 'for
>> sale' sign on them and when it gets dark someone will steal them! Worked
>> twice for me!
>>
>> JR
>>
>>
>> http://community.webtv.net/awoodbutcher/MyWoodWorkingPage
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> had a friend got rid of a push mower that way. Took his new one, started
> mowing, then put the old one right where he left off, and it was gone the
> next morning.
>

LOL!!

Steve

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Apr 6, 2011, 11:28:19 PM4/6/11
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On 2011-04-05 12:49:59 -0400, "dadiOH" <dad...@invalid.com> said:

> If you lived in central Florida you could just put it out by the street
> and someone would steal it within a couple of hours. I get rid of all
> sorts of stuff that way, gotta drag an old fiberglass jon boat that
> someone left on my property down there pretty soon.

Things are tough all over -- today was trash day (we have recycling
pick-up every OTHER week) and I noticed a heavily-laden old Chevy
pickup truck cruising the cans on my street. Not the first time, either!

(N.B. I've got plenty of partcle board for disposable jigs from a
entertainment center somebody left on the street, too -- just not from
MY neighborhood. <GRIN>)

Steve

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Apr 6, 2011, 11:30:34 PM4/6/11
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On 2011-04-06 00:05:23 -0400, "Lobby Dosser" <L...@invalid.invalid> said:

> Our dump won't take fluorescent bulbs or paint; they have to go to a
> special central recycling center.

If it's latex, all that's required here for trash pick up is that you
dump enough cat litter in the can that the paint's no longer liquid.

Steve

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Apr 6, 2011, 11:33:40 PM4/6/11
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On 2011-04-06 04:51:26 -0400, awoodb...@webtv.net (Jerry - OHIO) said:

> If you have scrap tires put them in the front yard with a $50.00 'for
> sale' sign on them and when it gets dark someone will steal them! Worked
> twice for me!

Thanks for the laugh!

Lobby Dosser

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Toledo Ohio about late 1960s we'd get an "all you can drag to the curb day"
a few times a year. Folks would be out all night cruising neighborhoods with
a kid hanging out a window spotlighting the curb.

Lobby Dosser

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They apparently really Do something with the paint here.

dadiOH

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Doug Miller wrote:
> In article <ine8va$mei$1...@dont-email.me>, "Lobby Dosser"
> <L...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> "Bill" <Bi...@NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
>> news:ine5j...@news5.newsguy.com...

>>> I just happen to have this 32" torsion spring with a 2" i.d. left
>>> over from an obvious home repair. I placed it in the garbage, at
>>> first, but I retrieved it--in case it may be valuable! ; )
>>
>> You don't recycle where you live?
>>
> Scrap steel brings about $225/ton, or around eleven cents a pound.
> He'd most likely spend more on gasoline taking to a recycler than
> he'd get back in scrap value.

How things change...

When I was a little kid in the early 40s old newspapers brought $0.10 a
pound. It was no trick at all to collect half a ton and - believe me - you
could buy a *lot* with $10 back then. For example...
jack plane
brace and 3-4 auger bits
hammer
crosscut saw.
All for $10, still have and use the hammer, brace and bits.

--

dadiOH
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dadiOH

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dadiOH wrote:
> Doug Miller wrote:
>> In article <ine8va$mei$1...@dont-email.me>, "Lobby Dosser"
>> <L...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> "Bill" <Bi...@NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ine5j...@news5.newsguy.com...
>>>> I just happen to have this 32" torsion spring with a 2" i.d. left
>>>> over from an obvious home repair. I placed it in the garbage, at
>>>> first, but I retrieved it--in case it may be valuable! ; )
>>>
>>> You don't recycle where you live?
>>>
>> Scrap steel brings about $225/ton, or around eleven cents a pound.
>> He'd most likely spend more on gasoline taking to a recycler than
>> he'd get back in scrap value.
>
> How things change...
>
> When I was a little kid in the early 40s old newspapers brought $0.10
> a pound.

Make that $0.01 per pound

Father Haskell

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Apr 7, 2011, 5:26:24 PM4/7/11
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On Apr 5, 12:25 am, Bill <B...@NOSPAM.net> wrote:
> I just happen to have this 32" torsion spring with a 2" i.d. left over
> from an obvious home repair.  I placed it in the garbage, at first, but
> I retrieved it--in case it may be valuable!  ; )
>
> Seriously, is it material suitable for making any sort of wood cutter?
> If it is, I think I can get a lot of 'em out of the spring!
>
> Bill

Heat it with a torch and stretch it out. Make it into
small scribes, detail knives, etc. The only difference
between spring steel and tool steel is the temper
(purple vs. straw).

Need a whole lot of cheap miter clamps? Cut the thing
down the side with a slitting wheel. Sharpen the cut
ends so they'll bite into wood.

Bill

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Father Haskell wrote:
> On Apr 5, 12:25 am, Bill<B...@NOSPAM.net> wrote:
>> I just happen to have this 32" torsion spring with a 2" i.d. left over
>> from an obvious home repair. I placed it in the garbage, at first, but
>> I retrieved it--in case it may be valuable! ; )
>>
>> Seriously, is it material suitable for making any sort of wood cutter?
>> If it is, I think I can get a lot of 'em out of the spring!
>>
>> Bill
>
> Heat it with a torch and stretch it out. Make it into
> small scribes, detail knives, etc. The only difference
> between spring steel and tool steel is the temper
> (purple vs. straw).

That's the kind of encouragement (and information) I was after!
Thank you.

Bill

HeyBub

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Lobby Dosser wrote:
>
>
> Toledo Ohio about late 1960s we'd get an "all you can drag to the
> curb day" a few times a year. Folks would be out all night cruising
> neighborhoods with a kid hanging out a window spotlighting the curb.

I do that in 2011. Here it's called "Heavy Trash" day (sometimes "Yard
Waste" day).

And I call my excursion "foraging."


k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

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On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 17:42:54 -0500, "HeyBub" <hey...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

>Lobby Dosser wrote:
>>
>>
>> Toledo Ohio about late 1960s we'd get an "all you can drag to the
>> curb day" a few times a year. Folks would be out all night cruising
>> neighborhoods with a kid hanging out a window spotlighting the curb.
>
>I do that in 2011. Here it's called "Heavy Trash" day (sometimes "Yard
>Waste" day).

We call it Wednesday. ;-)

k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz

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When I lived in VT, they'd mix it all together and sell it as a "custom" color
(usually an ultra-drab brown muck). ;-)

Larry Jaques

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On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 18:44:08 -0400, Bill <Bi...@NOSPAM.net> wrote:

>Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 01:29:15 -0400, Bill<Bi...@NOSPAM.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Lobby Dosser wrote:
>>>> "dadiOH"<dad...@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4d9b1115$0$27702$a826...@newsreader.readnews.com...
>>>>> Bill wrote:
>>>>>> I just happen to have this 32" torsion spring with a 2" i.d. left over
>>>>>> from an obvious home repair. I placed it in the garbage, at first,
>>>>>> but I retrieved it--in case it may be valuable! ; )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seriously, is it material suitable for making any sort of wood cutter?
>>>>>> If it is, I think I can get a lot of 'em out of the spring!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe you could make some sort of catapult and use it for disposing of
>>>>> things the trash men won't take. Like dead cats :)
>>>>
>>>> That's what the beefy plastic bags are made for ...
>>>
>>> For disguising the cats or as freezer bags? What about the tail? ; )
>>
>> There's an idea. Triplebag the dead cats in your freezer, putting
>> them out only the night before pickup so they don't give themselves
>> away by smelling up the can.
>
>LOL - How many do you have???

I don't have any cats and I have never done that.

But recently, I've noticed that lovely smell of cat urine in my
driveway once again. Some male is pissin' on my hedge again. Grrrrrrr!
So, I'm thinking about it. ;)

--
From the Book of Aussie Bush Etiquette:

Never tow another car using pantyhose and duct tape.

Larry Jaques

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On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 23:30:34 -0400, Steve <k2desig...@indy.rr.com>
wrote:

It's better to take it to the recycling center for use. The downtowns
use it for painting over grafitti, a VERY worth cause.

Larry Jaques

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Hell, Bill, stretch it out, make it thinner, then make your own nails!

Larry Jaques

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On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 16:15:33 -0700, "Lobby Dosser" <L...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>"Larry Jaques" <lja...@invalid.diversify.com> wrote in message

I wonder if that idiot in the Suburban gets to keep the 100' of
railing which his vehicle processed while he was texting on the
freeway...
http://www.ridelust.com/texting-while-driving-dont-do-it/

Holy Shit, Batman!
http://www.google.com/search?q=texting+accident
Amazing! There was more than one accident. ;)

Larry Jaques

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On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 22:51:13 -0700, "Lobby Dosser" <L...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>"Steve" <k2desig...@indy.rr.com> wrote in message

I cruised the trashcans as a kid on the Air Force base. The AF gave
the families a weight limit and they tossed all sorts of good stuff
into the trash when they moved.

My sole problem with it was that time the yellow jacket crawled into
the little teapot I got for my sister. I put it in my pocket and a
minute later, it had stung me 4 times on the inside of my upper arm
and 5 times on the ribs. Mom rushed me to the hospital in case I was
allergic and some brilliant asshole intern dunked me in a tub of ice
water. When the doctor came in he screamed "Get that kid out of the
ice RIGHT NOW! If he'd been allergic, he'd have been dead before he
got here."

Bill

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Apr 7, 2011, 11:38:48 PM4/7/11
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Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 18:36:50 -0400, Bill<Bi...@NOSPAM.net> wrote:
>
>> Father Haskell wrote:
>>> On Apr 5, 12:25 am, Bill<B...@NOSPAM.net> wrote:
>>>> I just happen to have this 32" torsion spring with a 2" i.d. left over
>>>> from an obvious home repair. I placed it in the garbage, at first, but
>>>> I retrieved it--in case it may be valuable! ; )
>>>>
>>>> Seriously, is it material suitable for making any sort of wood cutter?
>>>> If it is, I think I can get a lot of 'em out of the spring!
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>
>>> Heat it with a torch and stretch it out. Make it into
>>> small scribes, detail knives, etc. The only difference
>>> between spring steel and tool steel is the temper
>>> (purple vs. straw).
>>
>> That's the kind of encouragement (and information) I was after!
>> Thank you.
>
> Hell, Bill, stretch it out, make it thinner, then make your own nails!

You say that like you think I wouldn't ever do something like that... I
Can make my own fishing flies (much better than the imported ones)..I
expect my nails would be better too! They would be forged--and
formaldehyde free! ; )

Bill

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Apr 7, 2011, 11:40:35 PM4/7/11
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You need a "body bag"? (lol)

Bill

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Apr 7, 2011, 11:52:47 PM4/7/11
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Bill wrote:
> Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 18:36:50 -0400, Bill<Bi...@NOSPAM.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Father Haskell wrote:
>>>> On Apr 5, 12:25 am, Bill<B...@NOSPAM.net> wrote:
>>>>> I just happen to have this 32" torsion spring with a 2" i.d. left over
>>>>> from an obvious home repair. I placed it in the garbage, at first, but
>>>>> I retrieved it--in case it may be valuable! ; )
>>>>>
>>>>> Seriously, is it material suitable for making any sort of wood cutter?
>>>>> If it is, I think I can get a lot of 'em out of the spring!
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>> Heat it with a torch and stretch it out. Make it into
>>>> small scribes, detail knives, etc. The only difference
>>>> between spring steel and tool steel is the temper
>>>> (purple vs. straw).
>>>
>>> That's the kind of encouragement (and information) I was after!
>>> Thank you.
>>
>> Hell, Bill, stretch it out, make it thinner, then make your own nails!

Pssst.. Just between you and me, I think maybe "custom nails" is where
the untapped market is... Ever hammered a custom nail? :P

That ought to leave the punsters something to nail... lol.

Bill

Lobby Dosser

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I was in the USAF and was a medic ...


Lobby Dosser

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"Larry Jaques" <lja...@invalid.diversify.com> wrote in message
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Bet he had to change everything from the waist down!\

>
> Holy Shit, Batman!
> http://www.google.com/search?q=texting+accident
> Amazing! There was more than one accident. ;)

Seems to recall a texting rail accident around LA.

Yeah: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,421801,00.html

and

http://www.bostoninjurylawyerblog.com/2009/05/boston_green_line_train_crash.html

Lobby Dosser

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"Larry Jaques" <lja...@invalid.diversify.com> wrote in message
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If you ever leave a vehicle in your driveway it is most likely Marking all
the tires. Oh, and all its friends ...

Lobby Dosser

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"Larry Jaques" <lja...@invalid.diversify.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 18:36:50 -0400, Bill <Bi...@NOSPAM.net> wrote:
>
>>Father Haskell wrote:
>>> On Apr 5, 12:25 am, Bill<B...@NOSPAM.net> wrote:
>>>> I just happen to have this 32" torsion spring with a 2" i.d. left over
>>>> from an obvious home repair. I placed it in the garbage, at first, but
>>>> I retrieved it--in case it may be valuable! ; )
>>>>
>>>> Seriously, is it material suitable for making any sort of wood cutter?
>>>> If it is, I think I can get a lot of 'em out of the spring!
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>
>>> Heat it with a torch and stretch it out. Make it into
>>> small scribes, detail knives, etc. The only difference
>>> between spring steel and tool steel is the temper
>>> (purple vs. straw).
>>
>>That's the kind of encouragement (and information) I was after!
>>Thank you.
>
> Hell, Bill, stretch it out, make it thinner, then make your own nails!
>

Don't look, you'll just encourage him! LOL!!!

Lobby Dosser

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Yes. Still have some. IIRC, I got them from Lee Valley

Why, looky here:

http://www.leevalley.com/en/hardware/page.aspx?p=40383&cat=3,41306,41327

and, OMG here:

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=65183&cat=3,41306,41324&ap=1

Bill

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Hah! Those are cut from round stock!!! (LOL) : )

Bill

J. Clarke

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In article <innci...@news3.newsguy.com>, Bill_...@comast.net
says...

Those aren't what I'd call "custom nails". "Specialty", yes, but not
"custom".

Larry Jaques

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I want to see the video of you extruding your own monofilament fishing
line next. OK?

Bill

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I never even heard the word "extruding" before you mentioned it (but I
looked it up). Learning how to make one's own "fly-fishing line" might
make more sense (one can dispose of several twenties for that stuff). I
don't know what is involved in making monofiliment line. What do you
think: people didn't go fishing before monofilament fishing line was
EXTRUDED??? : ) If I took the blade off, I'll bet I could catch
fish with my weed-eater: Just push the button and "reel" 'em in...
easier than the fishin' magician! Add a few strings, and you could be
a fishin' musician! : ) Don't get me started... lol

Bill

Bill

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Apr 8, 2011, 6:29:04 PM4/8/11
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How about raising/growing my own fish?

BTW, I have a fish I stuffed on my old bedroom wall (my first effort at
taxidermy done when I was 13). I might have guessed I was older, except
I dated it. I hesitate to use the term "mounted" as some folks here
are easily excitable... Yep, I learned how by reading a few pages of a
book. I made an wooden oval panel to glue it to using a coping saw, a
rasp and sandpaper, and some blue paint I found in the garage. A few
streaks of paint across the fish, a few coats of varnish, a
suitably-sized lightbulb in his eye socket, and he/she still looks like
a fairly healthy (big) bluegill some thirty-some years later... I
didn't stop at the fish, but this is a good place to wind this up. If
anything made an impression on me, and it still does, it's that the
instructions to do stuff like that is sitting on the shelf of the
library. Pretty cool (the library, now known as Google books, et. al.)

Bill


Larry Jaques

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Apr 8, 2011, 9:16:05 PM4/8/11
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Bill, seriously, custom nailmaking could be a decent-paying
profession. Look at the price of handmade nails. They're hard to find
and expensive when you do find them.

Bill

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Yeah, I wonder what they would give me to pound out a few at one of
those "pioneer parks" displaying the ways of old-time living. They might
even feed and clothe me! Don't think I would pass up the chance to
make use of a forge and anvil if it were offered! ; )

Bill

Lobby Dosser

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HAH!

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=40387&cat=3,41306,41324&ap=1

--
Ever wonder why doctors, dentists and lawyers have to Practice so much? Ever
wonder why you let them Practice on You?

Bill

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Yep, looks like someone beat me to it... "A day late and a dollar
short..." : )

Larry Jaques

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I think most of 'em are entirely volunteer. The Antique Steam and Gas
Engine Museum in Vista, CA (where I used to live) was volunteer except
for a few admin personnel. http://www.agsem.com/


>Don't think I would pass up the chance to
>make use of a forge and anvil if it were offered! ; )

Yeah, as long as you're upwind and far enough away from the forge,
it's exciting, tiring, and filthy dirty fun. I hit a few licks (forge
welding) and have a new level of respect for blacksmiths. What
surprises me is that I seldom see earplugs or muffs on these guys.
That's noisyass work, fellas!

Lobby Dosser

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My story was a day early and about $1,000,000 short in software development
and, unfortunately, had most of my brilliant ideas while working for stuffy
companies. :()

Lobby Dosser

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I think the folks at Williamsburg are paid.

Larry Jaques

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On Sat, 9 Apr 2011 04:03:34 -0700, "Lobby Dosser" <L...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>"Larry Jaques" <lja...@invalid.diversify.com> wrote in message

>news:crlvp61kvjcif4tsu...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 22:58:13 -0400, Bill <Bi...@NOSPAM.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 23:52:47 -0400, Bill<Bi...@NOSPAM.net> wrote:

>> I think most of 'em are entirely volunteer.
>

>I think the folks at Williamsburg are paid.

I quote the rule, you the exception. OK. Go for it.

You and Bill are gonna be _rich_!

Father Haskell

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On Apr 8, 11:59 pm, Larry Jaques <ljaq...@invalid.diversify.com>
wrote:

> On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 22:58:13 -0400, Bill <B...@NOSPAM.net> wrote:
> >Larry Jaques wrote:
> >> On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 23:52:47 -0400, Bill<B...@NOSPAM.net>  wrote:
>
> >>> Bill wrote:
> >>>> Larry Jaques wrote:
> Never tow another car using pantyhose and duct tape.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

One man's noise is another man's music. Nothing
takes you back in time like the sound of a 2 lb hammer
on an anvil.

Father Haskell

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On Apr 8, 5:03 pm, Larry Jaques <ljaq...@invalid.diversify.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 23:38:48 -0400, Bill <B...@NOSPAM.net> wrote:
> >Larry Jaques wrote:
> >> On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 18:36:50 -0400, Bill<B...@NOSPAM.net>  wrote:
>
> >>> Father Haskell wrote:
> >>>> On Apr 5, 12:25 am, Bill<B...@NOSPAM.net>   wrote:
> >>>>> I just happen to have this 32" torsion spring with a 2" i.d. left over
> >>>>> from an obvious home repair.  I placed it in the garbage, at first, but
> >>>>> I retrieved it--in case it may be valuable!  ; )
>
> >>>>> Seriously, is it material suitable for making any sort of wood cutter?
> >>>>> If it is, I think I can get a lot of 'em out of the spring!
>
> >>>>> Bill
>
> >>>> Heat it with a torch and stretch it out.  Make it into
> >>>> small scribes, detail knives, etc.  The only difference
> >>>> between spring steel and tool steel is the temper
> >>>> (purple vs. straw).
>
> >>> That's the kind of encouragement (and information) I was after!
> >>> Thank you.
>
> >> Hell, Bill, stretch it out, make it thinner, then make your own nails!
>
> >You say that like you think I wouldn't ever do something like that... I
> >Can make my own fishing flies (much better than the imported ones)..I
> >expect my nails would be better too!  They would be forged--and
> >formaldehyde free! ; )
>
> I want to see the video of you extruding your own monofilament fishing
> line next.  OK?
>
> --
> From the Book of Aussie Bush Etiquette:
>
> Never tow another car using pantyhose and duct tape.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

In a flask, tank, bathtub, etc., add equal parts 1,6 hexanediamine
and sebacoyl chloride without mixing. The nylon 66 forms as a
boundary layer dividing the two. Create your mono line by drawing
the nylon around a pencil or glass rod.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7ihpZhCj6k

Lobby Dosser

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You 'think' you quote the rule.

Roy

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On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 00:25:03 -0400, Bill <Bi...@NOSPAM.net> wrote:

>I just happen to have this 32" torsion spring with a 2" i.d. left over
>from an obvious home repair. I placed it in the garbage, at first, but
>I retrieved it--in case it may be valuable! ; )
>
>Seriously, is it material suitable for making any sort of wood cutter?
>If it is, I think I can get a lot of 'em out of the spring!
>
>Bill


I've used garage door spring to make strikers. Older springs are more likely to
be bigger in diameter. Modern metallurgy has let them cut down on the diameter
of the metal. You can always upset it if you need more diameter.

One spring makes a good many strikers at 5-6 inches of steel each. I made a lot
of the CF type in the link below for Boy Scouts and to trade in years past. I
would expect it would make good turnscrews, chisels and knives, but limited in
size due to the diameter. It is overkill for S-hooks for fire iron sets where
mild steel is sufficient.


http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartList.aspx?catID=17&subID=111&styleID=423


Disclaimer - no affiliation with Track, except as a satisfied customer.

Regards,
Roy

Bill

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Roy wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 00:25:03 -0400, Bill<Bi...@NOSPAM.net> wrote:
>
>> I just happen to have this 32" torsion spring with a 2" i.d. left over
>>from an obvious home repair. I placed it in the garbage, at first, but
>> I retrieved it--in case it may be valuable! ; )
>>
>> Seriously, is it material suitable for making any sort of wood cutter?
>> If it is, I think I can get a lot of 'em out of the spring!
>>
>> Bill
>
>
> I've used garage door spring to make strikers. Older springs are more likely to
> be bigger in diameter. Modern metallurgy has let them cut down on the diameter
> of the metal. You can always upset it if you need more diameter.
>
> One spring makes a good many strikers at 5-6 inches of steel each. I made a lot
> of the CF type in the link below for Boy Scouts and to trade in years past. I
> would expect it would make good turnscrews, chisels and knives, but limited in
> size due to the diameter. It is overkill for S-hooks for fire iron sets where
> mild steel is sufficient.
>

Very interesting. Lots of folks around here don't seem to appreciate
"extra work" the way you and I do! Extra work, the stuff they don't pay
ya for: it makes time timeless.

Bill

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