DIY Network
David Pope
supposed to be much more detailed as to project instructions than the
competition, with the web site complementing with plans, etc.
Anybody know about this??
--David
Gunterman
>
> Just saw an ad for a new cable channel (DIY) coming on in Sept. It's
> supposed to be much more detailed as to project instructions than the
> competition, with the web site complementing with plans, etc.
Be afraid, be very, very, afraid!
Jim Mowreader
<david...@cwix.com> wrote:
> Just saw an ad for a new cable channel (DIY) coming on in Sept. It's
> supposed to be much more detailed as to project instructions than the
> competition, with the web site complementing with plans, etc.
>
> Anybody know about this??
>
> --David
>
>
The competition? You mean HGTV? The network that runs Nahm at 7:30 pm
(which is exactly the same time as Win Ben Stein's Money, BTW), Bob
Vila, a couple of other serious home-improvement shows (a serious
home improvement is one requiring a Sawzall, a jackhammer or high
explosives, all of which I have seen used on various home-improvement
shows), then segues into "At The Auction" and lots of pukey duck-
level "home improvement" programs. Oh yeah, the gardening shows!
Once I was watching one of those "redecorate this room for less than
five hundred bucks" shows that they run and I started screaming
incoherently...Lori came in to find out what was wrong. "They
*painted* that medicine chest!" 'So,' she says, it looks good that
way...' "No, dear, you don't understand; that's a solid oak medicine
chest." The last fifteen minutes of 'Cow and Chicken' was very good
that night.
I think there's definitely a market for a handyman's cable channel
with no pukey ducks, no Joanne Liebeler painting little bitty flowers
on the crown moulding, no gardening shows, and no damn auction crap!
Bring on the Sawzalls and RDX!
--
--jmowreader
David Pope
They seem to pander to the lowest common denominator just like (almost)
every other station. BTW, Cow and Chicken is better than some of that stuff
<g>.
--David
Jim Mowreader
(Fitch R. Williams) wrote:
> b...@execpc.com (Duke of URLs) wrote:
>
>>We've had HGTV for the grand total of three weeks now and at first I
>>was pretty jazzed.
>
> What is HGTV?
>
> Fitch"the only one that doesn't know?... probably!"Williams
Means "Home & Garden Television." Concept's good: take all the home
improvement, gardening, etc. shows and run 'em back to back, all day
long.
Reality isn't so good. There aren't enough of those shows to run for
24 hrs/day, so they gotta fill the time with the antiques-auction
stuff.
If they'd run Roy Underhill's "The Woodwright's Shop," though, that
would improve matters greatly.
--
--jmowreader
"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him to use the
Net and he won't bother you for weeks."
--Andy Grove
Fitch R. Williams
>Means "Home & Garden Television." Concept's good: take all the home
>improvement, gardening, etc. shows and run 'em back to back, all day
>long.
Thanks, at least now I understand the acronym. Gotta say though, that HGTV
certainly doesn't sound like a reason to leave the shop and watch TV.
Fitch"life is not a spectator sport"Williams
Duke of URLs
>The competition? You mean HGTV? The network that runs Nahm at 7:30 pm
>(which is exactly the same time as Win Ben Stein's Money, BTW), Bob
>Vila, a couple of other serious home-improvement shows (a serious
>home improvement is one requiring a Sawzall, a jackhammer or high
>explosives, all of which I have seen used on various home-improvement
>shows), then segues into "At The Auction" and lots of pukey duck-
>level "home improvement" programs. Oh yeah, the gardening shows!
We've had HGTV for the grand total of three weeks now and at first I
was pretty jazzed. I don't think it went off for the first weekend we
had it but then I saw Kitty Bartholomew. This I'll need an
explanation of. Still though, having HGTV is better than not having
HGTV.
snippage of HGTV atrocities...
>I think there's definitely a market for a handyman's cable channel
>with no pukey ducks, no Joanne Liebeler painting little bitty flowers
>on the crown moulding, no gardening shows, and no damn auction crap!
>Bring on the Sawzalls and RDX!
I'm with you on this one James. Even the Nahm Show could use an
extensive re-vamping.
Keith Bohn
Fitch R. Williams
>We've had HGTV for the grand total of three weeks now and at first I
>was pretty jazzed.
What is HGTV?
CharlieDIY
Nah. I don't know either. Comes of not having a dish or cable, I guess.
Life's a bitch with only five channels. I spend less than an hour a day
watching the idjit box and get a friend to tape most WWing shows.
Charlie Self
Word Worker
Larry Jaques
>frwillia writes:
>>What is HGTV?
>Nah. I don't know either. Comes of not having a dish or cable, I guess.
>Life's a bitch with only five channels. I spend less than an hour a day
>watching the idjit box and get a friend to tape most WWing shows.
You don't know how good you've got it, Charlie. The rest of us are
hopelessly addicted to the damned thing, worse than our wooddorking.
Why do you suppose so few of us out here actually LIVE in our shops?
Besides, having shows taped for you means that you can fast-forward
through any and all commercials, shortening the prog by 20min/hr.
THAT, kind sir, is truly a blessing.
RE: HGTV, I recently found it myself and was watching a back-yard
redo by the Surprise Gardener. I'd never seen a portable wall topper
(What're those screen thingies called? I'm not awake yet.) Whilst I
was jotting down some neat ideas fro mthe show, the Nahm came on and
I actually saw the man use a back saw to cut TENONS! I was one proud
Neander seeing this. Although he hogged out most of the mortises with
one of those tailed apprentices, he cleaned 'em up with a chisel by
hand. Judging by the sound it made, it was ScarySharp(tm), too!
I believe it was then that I fainted...
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In article <379d7237....@news.tfb.com>, lja...@pop3.tfb.com
(Larry Jaques) writes:
> [snip]
>
> the Nahm came on and
> I actually saw the man use a back saw to cut TENONS! I was one proud
> Neander seeing this.
I was halfway paying attention
and heard him say something like
"Believe it or not, this is one
time where a handsaw works best".
> Although he hogged out most of the mortises with
> one of those tailed apprentices, he cleaned 'em up with a chisel by
> hand.
Yeah, but it looked like one of those
yellow ones. ;-)
> Judging by the sound it made, it was ScarySharp(tm), too!
>
> I believe it was then that I fainted...
Heh. Then you missed another
thing he said that almost floored
me. He said he wouldn't put *any*
finish on the teak. No polyurethane,
no spah vahnish, no nothing!
Chuck Vance
Andy
company I've ever had the displeasure to be hooked up to. They recently
replaced the Discovery Home & Leasure channel with the Golf Channel, for
pete's sake.
Plus, I have to call them. The digital cable box conked out again and
needs to be replaced. That makes three this year.
Time for a satellite dish.
Jo4hn
mahalo,
jo4hn
Carol Clark
became interested in painting on wood and thought this group might be
helpful. I realize you are totally a different from what I'm looking
for.However, I read the remarks on HGTV, it also is'nt good for people
like me. It has almost nothing on crafts. As a matter of fact, you can't
find anything on this anywhere. I'm sure this doesn't really matter to
you, just wanted to let you know that HGTV misses the mark for a lot of
people carol
CharlieDIY
>It has almost nothing on crafts. As a matter of fact, you can't
>find anything on this anywhere. I'm sure this doesn't really matter to
>you, just wanted to let you know that HGTV misses the mark for a lot of
>people
Not just HGTV. Drop the HG. My lack of a dish is deliberate--I'm too far out
in the boonies--10 miles from the nearest town--to get cable. I got to my
son-in-law's, where there is access to viertually every cable channel known to
man, or woman, and click until my finger is tired, and 9 times out of 10, I end
up reading a book.
Charlie Self
Word Worker
jaci...@my-deja.com
to remove the sticky stuff from lead light windows, thus leaving them
in pristine condition?? Just one of lifes challenges i have yet to
unfold. Jak the knife.
In article <19990725105055...@ng-ff1.aol.com>,
> >
> >>We've had HGTV for the grand total of three weeks now and at first I
> >>was pretty jazzed.
> >
> >What is HGTV?
> >
> >Fitch"the only one that doesn't know?... probably!"Williams
> >
> >
> >
>
guess.
> Life's a bitch with only five channels. I spend less than an hour a
day
> watching the idjit box and get a friend to tape most WWing shows.
>
> Word Worker
>
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Gunterman
>> can anyone out there tell me how
> to remove the sticky stuff from lead light windows, thus leaving them
> in pristine condition?? Just one of lifes challenges i have yet to
> unfold. Jak the knife.
you mean the sticky putty-like stuff stuffed between the glass and the
lead?
you need to leave that in or the lights will rattle like crazy and
leak like a sieve.
(My mom did all the Stained Glass Windows in The Brownstone Restaurant
in downtown Hartford CT, I watched her for hours as a wee tot. Often
contemplated doing some stained glass work myself, but that is yet
another slippery slope ;-)
Larry Jaques
wrote:
> I was halfway paying attention
>and heard him say something like
>"Believe it or not, this is one
>time where a handsaw works best".
I swooned there.
> Heh. Then you missed another
>thing he said that almost floored
>me. He said he wouldn't put *any*
>finish on the teak. No polyurethane,
>no spah vahnish, no nothing!
Not too surprising. Did you see how much glue smear he had on that
thing? Hell, it musta weighed ten pounds heavier after gluing.
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>well i dunno about HGTV and stuff, but can anyone out there tell me how
>to remove the sticky stuff from lead light windows, thus leaving them
>in pristine condition?? Just one of lifes challenges i have yet to
>unfold.
Citrusolve(sp?), GooGone, WD-40 with a soap and water cleanup.
Conan The Librarian
In article <37a06c4e...@news.tfb.com>,
lja...@pop3.tfb.com (Larry Jaques) writes:
> On 26 Jul 99 11:56:57 CDT, cv...@tegan.swt.edu (Conan The Librarian)
> wrote:
>
>
>> I was halfway paying attention
>>and heard him say something like
>>"Believe it or not, this is one
>>time where a handsaw works best".
>
> I swooned there.
Then you probably shouldn't
see the show where he used a
block plane.
That might kill you outright.
:-)
>> Heh. Then you missed another
>>thing he said that almost floored
>>me. He said he wouldn't put *any*
>>finish on the teak. No polyurethane,
>>no spah vahnish, no nothing!
>
> Not too surprising. Did you see how much glue smear he had on that
> thing? Hell, it musta weighed ten pounds heavier after gluing.
I love how he deals with
squeezeout (in his case it's
more like "runoff").
"I'll just take this wet
rag heah and kinda smear the
excess glue all over the piece,
making sure to work it well
into the grain."
Chuck Vance
pms...@hathor.dera.gov.uk
>
> I love how he deals with
>squeezeout (in his case it's
>more like "runoff").
>
> "I'll just take this wet
>rag heah and kinda smear the
>excess glue all over the piece,
>making sure to work it well
>into the grain."
>
>
> Chuck Vance
>
I probably shouldn't admit to this, but every so often I get waaay too much
glue on too. What do you WWing Gods do?
Paul Scott
Conan The Librarian
In article <7nnfl8$73e$1...@hathor.dera.gov.uk>,
pms...@hathor.dera.gov.uk writes:
> I probably shouldn't admit to this, but every so often I get waaay too much
> glue on too. What do you WWing Gods do?
I wouldn't claim to be a god,
but first of all I use glue
sparingly and make sure it is
spread evenly on both surfaces
to be glued.
For most jobs I spread it with a
1/2" natural bristle throwaway paint
brush that I've modified by trimming
the bristles back so it's stiffer.
Next I clamp just tight enough to
get a small, even bead of squeezeout
at the glue-line.
Finally, I leave the squeezeout to
set for about 30 minutes and come back
with a chisel and the stuff just peels
right off.
If you smear it around like Nahm
does, I don't see how you can ever
expect to get it off (especially on
open-grained woods).
Chuck Vance
Andrew Barss
: If you smear it around like Nahm
: does, I don't see how you can ever
: expect to get it off (especially on
: open-grained woods).
If'n you're Norm, you just blast the suckah with enough
sandpaper to get right down to bare wood.
A couple tricks for getting glue off without doing that (to add
to Conan's excellent post):
a) if you're planning to sand, scrape, or plane the wood after glueup
(like on a tabletop), put some paste wax or shellac on the surface of the
wood near the joint; the glue can't stick, and comes right off.
b) use blue masking tape -- same deal.
-- Andrew Barss
Larry Jaques
>I probably shouldn't admit to this, but every so often I get waaay too much
>glue on too. What do you WWing Gods do?
What's a WWing God? I either chisel it off immediately or let it set
and chisel it off dry, depending upon area.
BTW, I saw the Paddylac table at the SDFWA meeting tonight and talked
to John Crum for a moment. That garnetlac is D A R K schtuff, son. I
may try some super blonde some time. And maybe some shellac another.
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In article <7nnn54$1d9$1...@news.ccit.arizona.edu>, Andrew Barss
<ba...@u.arizona.edu> writes:
Good points. A couple more things that
might be helpful:
I usually finish *before* glueup (except
when edge-gluing larger panels from smaller
boards), so that makes cleanup a breeze.
When making boxes or carcases where it's
hard to get into the inside corner, I usually
tape it off just inside the joint line before
glueup.
Then I just have to peel off the tape and
any excess glue comes with it.
Chuck Vance
Jack-of-all-trades
Hi, I just happened on this group. I was interested because I just got
became interested in painting on wood and thought this group might be
You will never know unless you ask. Why don't you post your specific
question? You should be aware tho that some wood just isn't made to be
painted. I pretty much like to confine my painting to plywood (hope to
talk my kids into painting my house, already got one willing to paint my
car. Hehe)
You should ALWAYS try to have a Plan B.
And even more important, have a Plan A.
rec.woodworking FAQ: http://www.robson.org/woodfaq/
WILLIE POPE
I wonder if you prefinish and don't want to sand any more fi you can use
petroleum jelly instead? Mineral spirits or naphtha should dissolve it
easily.
--David
Gary Robson
> Not on my cable system. TCI (now AT&T) is probably the worst cable
> company I've ever had the displeasure to be hooked up to.
When I lived in Fremont (California), the city had a complaint form for
people that called in to gripe. It had two checkboxes at the top. One said
"TCI Cable" and the other said "Other."
The service stunk. The quality stunk. Their policies stunk.
Now, I live where there ain't no cable TV. I have a big dish and a small
dish (my wife and I work in the TV industry). The quality is incredible,
and there's much more selection, but I do miss getting the local cable
channels sometimes...
-=- Gary -=-
rec.woodworking FAQ: http://www.robson.org/woodfaq/
Closed Captioning FAQ: http://www.robson.org/capfaq/
My Web Site: http://www.robson.org/gary/
Rob Weaver
<snip>
> You will never know unless you ask. Why don't you post your specific
> question? You should be aware tho that some wood just isn't made to be
> painted. I pretty much like to confine my painting to plywood (hope to
> talk my kids into painting my house, already got one willing to paint my
> car. Hehe)
Hey Jack - let us know when the car is done; I guarantee that'll qualify
as a drive by!
(gr&r)
Rob Weaver