Anyone use Ichthammol ointment for removing slinter / sliver?
Jay Pique
particularly stubborn doug fir splinter that broke off somewhere deep
in the joint on my index finger. I'm convinced it has gone underneath
a tendon or into the bone or something. The finger is pretty
swollen. Old wives tale says this salve works. Any of you old farts
use this? Looks and smells like roofing tar!
JP
steve robinson
Yes it does work , if its gone as deep as you say though you need
proper medical treatment
RP
It works real good for ~slightly~ embedded wood parts. If you cannot
see any part of the wood you need to dig it out in another manner,
especially if it's as bad as you say.
RP
Robatoy
If it is in the joint, it must be removed surgically. If it is in
there too long the body's defense will encapsulate the foreign object
and make you suffer for a long, long time. BTDT. I had a nice piece of
oak splinter that accordioned itself into the joint of my right index
finger. The superficial part of it had snapped under the skin so I dug
it out but obviously didn't get it all. 4 Months later that joint
wouldn't even bend without a nice shot of pain. Off to our awful
medical system where I was handled that same afternoon, by an expert,
for free.
Leon
"Robatoy" <counte...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Must be a terrible medical system if it took you 4 months of pain before you
decided it was worth going in for. ???
Robatoy
> "Robatoy" <counterfit...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:22ab762d-f7ed-4a07...@b6g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 25, 11:59 am, "steve robinson"
>
> <st...@colevalleyinteriors.co.uk> wrote:
>
> If it is in the joint, it must be removed surgically. If it is in
> there too long the body's defense will encapsulate the foreign object
> and make you suffer for a long, long time. BTDT. I had a nice piece of
> oak splinter that accordioned itself into the joint of my right index
> finger. The superficial part of it had snapped under the skin so I dug
> it out but obviously didn't get it all. 4 Months later that joint
> wouldn't even bend without a nice shot of pain. Off to our awful
> medical system where I was handled that same afternoon, by an expert,
> for free.
>
Leon:
> Must be a terrible medical system if it took you 4 months of pain before you
> decided it was worth going in for. ???
LOL. okay smartypants. I tend to try to 'walk things off'. I have
nothing but excellent experiences with our healthcare system..
besides, I have connections. (SO and her troupe) :-)
Jay Pique
So I applied the tar yesterday afternoon and again that night before
bed. This morning the first thing I did in the shop was get out the
tweezers....and it came out pretty easily. I'm not chalking it up
100% to the Ichthammol, but I definitely think it helped. It now has
a place in my anit-sliver arsenal.
JP
RP
Excellent! You got lucky Jay.
RP
Lew Hodgett
When I was a kid, the stuff was known as "drawing salve".
Lew
LDosser
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Somebody Paid.
Lew Hodgett
"Jay Pique" wrote:
> It now has
> a place in my anit-sliver arsenal.
Consider adding an Xacto knife with the "pointy" blade to your kit.
Have kept an Xacto holder /W/ a blade cover along with a bottle of
betadine in my shop med kit for years.
Lew
Scott Lurndal
_Everybody_ Paid. That's the purpose of insurance, after all. Having
a single entity (government or otherwise) collect the insurance and
requiring all to participate is the most cost effective way (compare the
5% overhead of the candian system to the 33% overhead of UHC[*] or Anthem,
or the 2% overhead of medicare).
Think about it - if you're going to require all to carry insurance,
then having someone who _already_ collects insurance (e.g. medicare
via payroll deduction or 1040 for self employed) do the collection
(if not necessarily the processing) only makes sense.
scott
[*] 2008 UHC 10K. USD 5,000,000,000 profit, USD 22,000,000,000 cost
exclusive of payments to medical providers (i.e. overhead) from
USD 80,000,000,000 revenue.
33% of every insurance premium dollar goes to the insurance company; plain
highway robbery.
I think I'd rather have a federal agency tell me what healthcare will
get reimbursed (and at what rate) than for UHC, Anthem or my employer
to decide whether or not a procedure is covered.
Actually, I'd rather just pay the doctor directly, myself, for most
routine care and have government provided insurance for catastrophic
care. Removing the middle man _will_ reduce the cost to the patient
(my doctor will already accept cash at 50% the rate he charges to
the insurance company).
Rumple Stiltskin
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But it is decidedly Not Free!
Swingman
> (my doctor will already accept cash at 50% the rate he charges to
> the insurance company).
My daughter's hospital charged me 50% more for recent surgery than it
charges her insurance company, who refused to pay based on PEC ... and
no, there was no other hospital where the surgery could be performed.
Turned out not to be caused by PEC, and now it looks like I'm going to
be forced to sue both the insurance company and the hospital to get
reimbursed, if at all ... the lawyers have to dip their beaks, too
doncha know.
My optician _used_ to charge less for cash payers, but they stopped that
about ten years ago, and now just charge you top insurance prices.
IMO, and having lived in both era's, the problem is, and always has
been, at least since post WWII in this country, _INSURANCE_.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)
Robatoy
Wow, they had that back then already?
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gdr
Robatoy
> "Robatoy" <counterfit...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Sorry…I meant to say I stole the service from the income tax of those
slaves whose paycheques I sign.
Swingman
Hell, it was on the same shelf with Hadacol.
We used various combinations of a fresh piece of egg shell, soaking the
splinter finger in white vinegar, or a poultice of white bread boiled in
milk, to do any splinter "drawing".
Amazing what country folk did in the way of "health care" in the late
forties and fifties.
Farmer Dave
the best "digger out er" I found was a new sterile hyperemic needle
(25 GA works great)
Dave
Doug Winterburn
> On 4/26/2010 6:20 PM, Robatoy wrote:
>> On Apr 26, 6:23 pm, "Lew Hodgett"<sails.m...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> RE: Subject
>>>
>>> When I was a kid, the stuff was known as "drawing salve".
>>>
>>> Lew
>>
>> Wow, they had that back then already?
>> .
>> .
>> .
>> .
>> gdr
>
> Hell, it was on the same shelf with Hadacol.
>
> We used various combinations of a fresh piece of egg shell, soaking the
> splinter finger in white vinegar, or a poultice of white bread boiled in
> milk, to do any splinter "drawing".
>
> Amazing what country folk did in the way of "health care" in the late
> forties and fifties.
>
Treat a burn with egg white.
Stop a cut from bleeding by coating in fresh coffee grounds.
The one I really hated was the daily dose of cod liver oil - Mom lined
us up and pulled each little nose up to get the mouth opened and shoved
a spoonful of that crap in.
Lew Hodgett
"Swingman" wrote:
> Hell, it was on the same shelf with Hadacol.
Ever hear about the sparrow that drank a bottle of Hadacol?
Raped two eagles and took off after a B-29!
Those were the days......................
Lew
Lew Hodgett
"Doug Winterburn" wrote:
> The one I really hated was the daily dose of cod liver oil - Mom
> lined
> us up and pulled each little nose up to get the mouth opened and
> shoved
> a spoonful of that crap in.
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You too huh?
I always thought that was my personal hell.
Lew
Lew Hodgett
"Farmer Dave" wrote:
> the best "digger out er" I found was a new sterile hyperemic needle
> (25 GA works great)
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Mikley likes it.
Me too.
Lew
Swingman
My great aunt, Milli (Melee), a good catholic old maid of 80, after
drinking a bottle of Hadacol for her cold one Sunday morning, and after
listening to a Baptist preacher on the local radio, took off, on foot,
with her .410 pistol, to do him bodily harm.
She ended up in Pineville (at the time, Louisiana's nuthouse). The only
one in the family so incarcerated to date ... but maybe not the only one
deserving.
Larry Jaques
<rpe...@hotmail.com> scrawled the following:
I've found that almost any greasy substance will work well as a
drawing salve for slivers of most substances. I used to use only
specific drawing salves or triple antibiotic ointment, but a few times
I've been out, so I put on some regular old Vaseline. It worked
extremely well, too. It may just be that anything which restricts
oxygen to the wound will encourage antibody/pus production.
--
...in order that a man may be happy, it is necessary that he should
not only be capable of his work, but a good judge of his work.
-- John Ruskin
Robatoy
> On 4/26/2010 7:17 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>
> > "Swingman" wrote:
>
> >> Hell, it was on the same shelf with Hadacol.
>
> > Ever hear about the sparrow that drank a bottle of Hadacol?
>
> > Raped two eagles and took off after a B-29!
>
> > Those were the days......................
>
> My great aunt, Milli (Melee), a good catholic old maid of 80, after
> drinking a bottle of Hadacol for her cold one Sunday morning, and after
> listening to a Baptist preacher on the local radio, took off, on foot,
> with her .410 pistol, to do him bodily harm.
>
Larry Jaques
<dlwint...@yahoo.com> scrawled the following:
Try it now. I happily drink a gulp every morning. Nifty lemon-lime
flavoring. It's barely oily and has no fishy smell at all. I love
the new "molecularly distilled" stuff.
Nature's Answer, Liquid Norwegian Cod Liver Oil, Lemon Lime Flavor, 16
fl oz (480 ml) $14.94 at www.Iherb.com , my fave discount herb shop.
Mark & Juanita
> So I just bought some Ichthammol ointment to try and draw out a
> particularly stubborn doug fir splinter that broke off somewhere deep
> in the joint on my index finger. I'm convinced it has gone underneath
> a tendon or into the bone or something. The finger is pretty
> swollen. Old wives tale says this salve works. Any of you old farts
> use this? Looks and smells like roofing tar!
>
> JP
Used to use it when I was young. My folks swore by it. I don't know, I
guess it worked some of the time, it did help loosen things up.
If you've got swelling and aren't seeing the splinter, it may be time to
suck it up and visit a doctor. (No, I don't make that statement lightly, I
resist with every ounce of my being having to visit a doc, but sometimes you
just gotta do it)
--
There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage
Rob Leatham
J. Clarke
A while back after dealing with a particularly recalcitrant splinter, I
got one of these
<http://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/Merchant/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=toolshop&Product_Code=MS-SPLINT.XX>.
The forceps are crap but the probe is excellent.
Lew Hodgett
"Swingman" wrote:
> My great aunt, Milli (Melee), a good catholic old maid of 80, after
> drinking a bottle of Hadacol for her cold one Sunday morning, and
> after listening to a Baptist preacher on the local radio, took off,
> on foot, with her .410 pistol, to do him bodily harm.
-----------------------------
Have a .410 single shot shotgun and shot a fair amount of game with it
in years past.
Nice light weight weapon.
Never realized there was a .410 pistol.
Lew
Swingman
This one was pretty old, but they were around a lot when I was a kid.
They are probably illegal now. I vaguely recall that if they have a
smooth bore they are classified as shotguns and thus the barrel would be
considered a sawed-off.
Lee Michaels
"Swingman" wrote in message
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It would be a very close up kind of weapon. The spread on that would be
crazy. Maybe snakes?
Mike Marlow
Got one. Except it's referred to as a .41 Magnum. Great hunting gun. It
was originally designed to be a police weapon, falling between the .357 Mag
and the .41 Mag - more power without as much kick. Never caught on though.
Deadly accurate in the right hands, on big game out to ~75 yards. Probably
wouldn't try game much bigger than a white tail though. Definitely not a
carry gun!
--
-Mike-
mmarlo...@windstream.net
Mike Marlow
Responded to this in a different post - might have not realized you weren't
really talking about the .41 Mag. Oops...
--
-Mike-
mmarlo...@windstream.net
Larry Jaques
<sails...@verizon.net> scrawled the following:
DUCK! http://www.gunblast.com/images/Taurus-Judge/Dsc00284.jpg
Scary, wot?
The Taurus Judge looks like a sweet little wrist breaker.
http://www.gunblast.com/Taurus-Judge.htm
--
Losing faith in humanity, one person at a time.
Robatoy
> On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 15:25:17 -0700, the infamous "Lew Hodgett"
>
>
>
> >"Swingman" wrote:
>
> >> My great aunt, Milli (Melee), a good catholic old maid of 80, after
> >> drinking a bottle of Hadacol for her cold one Sunday morning, and
> >> after listening to a Baptist preacher on the local radio, took off,
> >> on foot, with her .410 pistol, to do him bodily harm.
> >-----------------------------
> >Have a .410 single shot shotgun and shot a fair amount of game with it
> >in years past.
>
> >Nice light weight weapon.
>
> >Never realized there was a .410 pistol.
>
> DUCK! http://www.gunblast.com/images/Taurus-Judge/Dsc00284.jpg
> Scary, wot?
>
>
> --
> Losing faith in humanity, one person at a time.
Redefines close quarters. Like useful inside a Mini Cooper when
confronted by a dangerous passenger.
But I bet is sounds impressive.