Eric Sanford stoops to new low
Jane M. Gibbs
How many other woman find Eric Sanford's latest
CutBacks article in Windsurf Magazine offensive and totally
insulting? If it were *funny,* that would be one
thing - but it isn't... He's no Dave Barry!
Frankly, I think the Editors exhibited poor judgement letting
this one past the copy desk!
Just when I thought the magazine was really becoming top
notch with useful, informative articles for all sailing
levels... and genders....
Eric obviously has run out of material and should
take a leave of absense to gain perspective on
what is funny and what is not.
IMHO, I believe he and the magazine have just about alienated
every female reader of Windsurf Magazine.
Jane
P.S. Sure, our gear, wetsuits, etc. are often color-matched, but
that's a "girl thing" and has nothing to do with windsurfing...
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Kevin Clark
"Jane M. Gibbs" <ja...@shore.net> wrote:
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>
>... Eric Sanford's latest
>CutBacks article... If it were *funny,* that would be one
>thing - but it isn't... He's no Dave Barry
Maybe that's why I didn't get past the first paragraph. Now I'll have to
go back and read it to see what pissed you off.
Kevin
Ian Hutchinson
xtrs...@aol.com (Xtrsports) wrote:
>I think he ran out of good material or stopped windsurfing years ago.
>Funny, I thought that I was the only one until I heard a similar
>conversation going on between a group of about 10 sailors last Sunday.
>Skip
I think a larger perspective can realized by comparing that article
with others in recent issues, in which he has used a self-depreciating
viewpoint. I'm thinking specifically of his comparison betweeen old
and new boards, and his "slogging" in the waves due to sub-optimal
technique. One could extrapolate this and say that probably Eric is
alienating himself! Another issue dealt with the alienation of
accountants, psychiatrists, and lawyers.
But isn't this nit picking? Eric is illuminatinng sterotypes and I
feel we would all be better off if these traits were considered
laughable and not practiced commonplace. Are you shooting at the
messenger?
BTW, yesterday I sailed four hours overpowered in steady building
SWerly. We were all pretty well toast afterwards, and while derigging
and enjoying the camraderie of the mixed company, I thought that the
wind was more of an equalizer - all had fun regardless of $ sex race,
etc.
If we censor ourselves to death there will be no stimulus for what
Monty Python call "intellectual debate" ! Cheers - Ian
Xtrsports
Ed Foster
In article <4nijig$n...@usenetz1.news.prodigy.com>, HBF...@prodigy.com
(Kevin Clark) wrote:
I think Erric's been pretty weak lately, but I have to say that I liked
his latest effort. Sorry about that, maybe I'm just an unreconstructable
MC; either that or someone needs to lighten up.
Dennis Raulin
I was very surprised that anyone would publish an article like that these
days. Who is this guy? the article was ridiculous, not funny, and sure
doesn't describe the female sailors I know.
crash
Hey Jane,
What was said? I missed the article.
Steve
Doug Rose
Re: Eric Sanford stoops to new low
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My wife reads the magazine. Actually the only thing she reads is Eric and she enjoys it.
ellen faller
There were quite a few annoyed women that I spoke to in regard to Eric
Sanford's article. Most were annoyed that women were portrayed as being
interested only in the "appearance" side of windsurfing,
and seemed to have no technical ability whatsoever. These were all women
who sail a lot, rig their own equipment, and sail at or close to their male
companion's level. No, actually there were 2 who don't sail at all in the
sample!
I was annoyed mostly at the implication that his wife represented "women
windsurfers" in general. I also get annoyed when people at the beach ask me
why my husband isn't rigging my sail and carrying my board. (If he did it
wrong, who would be more upset?? 8-)
The thing that surprised me was that a woman could actually find things that
matched!! I might have a color preference if there are 2 identical sails in
different colors, but find things that match??? Once, I rigged up and found
that everything worked out to being red, black and white, and nearly had to
derig out of shock.
And the worst offender in the matching category was someone near here who
took back 2 sails his wife had specially ordered for his birthday (or
Christmas) because they did not match the rest of his quiver!
Unfortunately, there are many women who DO have their husbands rig for them,
and may actually be represented by this charicature. Maybe that is what
annoys the rest of us more!
My opinion...
Ellen
garyo%...@microen.com
> "Jane M. Gibbs" <ja...@shore.net> writes:
>
> latest CutBacks article in Windsurf Magazine offensive and totally
> insulting?
>
> that's a "girl thing" and has nothing to do with windsurfing...
>
>
Dear Jane:
Please take a little of the money you spend on girl things and buy
yourself a sense of humor.
BTW, it is a well understood and accepted rule that women having
periods should not go into Grizzly bear country. There have been many
documented incidents of bear attacks on menstruating (sp?) women.
Maybe, just maybe, there might be a similar phenomena with sharks.
Q
As a regular reader who usually enjoys Mr. Sanford's sarcasm, I think he
stepped a little to close to the line, but...
It IS sarcasm, so it points out something we would make fun of in real
life when we see it and it accentuates it to the absurd. Generally,
Eric's humor is fairly juvenile, but that is part of the humor. Although,
I will admit to enjoying this portion (of an otherwise improved magazine)
less in recent months.
Mach 10 and Windy Too. KPG
NCSU Chemistry
NCSU Windsurfing
Raleigh, N C, USA
Walter Clark
I waited until I got my June copy of Windsurf magazine to see what the
fuss was about. It came yesterday.
Well, Eric has never tried for a Pulitzer, but most of his articles have
a point and I dont think this one is any different, other than I gave it
a 1 on the 0-10 chuckle meter.
He is not taking a shot at women windsurfers, he is pointing out that
from his "guy" view and despite a common enthusiasm for the sport his
stereotyped woman is less intrested in the latest tech stuff than his
stereotype guy and much more into a fashion statement than a guy. Without
saying it directly he is also pointing out that even in windsurfing women
are someting of a mystery to guys. Yea its kind of sexist but I dont
remember you getting all worked up over his other guy stereotype articles
so it appears to me that you may only see humor when it is at someone
elses expense.
Walter
NLW TFW NM
Hey, didn't we all laugh at Archie Bunker -- without denigrating Carroll
O'Connor -- for at least the first decade it was on TV? As obnoxious as
Eric can be -- and he can outdo me at times -- you got to admit it took
some nerve, or stupidity, or ignorance, or chauvinism to write those
comments. Eric has nerve, and he isn't stupid, or at least is not
ignorant. I don't know about his attitude towards women.
But his commentary does state one thingloud and clear: he doesn't give a
flip about our opinion of his comments.
I think the primary people who are offended by his obvious satire are
those whose sensitivity and sense of humor have worn thin, probably quite
justifiably. And I think -- or at least hope -- that the only guys who
took it seriously are beyond hope anyway. Hopefully the only valid
objection is that even satire does reinforce and propagate a stereotype
among the already biased and the IQ-challenged, but that alone is a real
problem. Look at the U.S. Navy for obvious examples of the sexism problems
that still exist at all levels, and sexist satire helps foment that.
You might be a redneck if ... you 're a guy who takes MCP satire
seriously.
The problem is ... there are a lot of rednecks in pin-striped suits.
Mike \m/
Never Leave Wind To Find Wind
Walter Clark
...OK, so I guess I should take offense at Eric's other 40 articles with
the characatures of bald guys because I am mostly bald and a guy?
Lighten up!
Walter
Tim Orden
>
> Dear Jane:
>
> Please take a little of the money you spend on girl things and buy
> yourself a sense of humor.
>
> BTW, it is a well understood and accepted rule that women having
> periods should not go into Grizzly bear country. There have been many
> documented incidents of bear attacks on menstruating (sp?) women.
> Maybe, just maybe, there might be a similar phenomena with sharks.
You really hurt Jack!
I know many women that could probalby shred circles around you
but probably would do the world a favor by simply jumping on your head.
Eric's comments are typical of the guy's mindlesnes. His only excuse
for such inane commentary is that he doesn't know any better.
But you.... yer pushin it.
Why don't you come out to Hawaii where you can meet some really friendly
windsurfing women?
come on over!!!!
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