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Robert Milberger

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May 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/15/97
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Hi there,

Has anybody tested the new F2 Ride?
I want to buy such a board. but don't know if it will be a
Axxis 272 , or the Ride.

any suggrstions welcome

hang loose
Robert


Ralf Sigmund

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May 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/18/97
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Hi Robert,
I recently bought myself the F2 Ride 277.
I weigh 90 kg - so if you weigh less than 80 kg you might get
different impressions of the two boards...
I spent one day with it on the water. I did surf the Axxis 272 before.
The Boards are quite different. The Ride plans much earlier and is
well suited for lower medium to mid strong winds, while the Axxis 272
needs at least steady 5 bft.
I was really impressed of the high speed I could achive with the Ride.
It was so easy toget really fast. The board turns very smooth and is
great for medium-radius fast powerjibes.
The Axxis is much more difficult to surf and it wants narrower jibes.
I guess it all depends on where You want to surf. The Axxis might be
better for areas with steady strong winds, perhaps even some waves.
The Ride feels great on flatwater and windwaves, where you can surf it
very fast, make smooth powerjibes and use your speed for big flatwater
jumps. It does not require as steady winds as the Axxis and can carry
larger sails (7 qm was fine).
Ralf


sailquik (Roger Jackson)

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May 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/19/97
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ralf.s...@stud.uni-hannover.de (Ralf Sigmund) wrote:

>>Has anybody tested the new F2 Ride?
>>I want to buy such a board. but don't know if it will be a
>>Axxis 272 , or the Ride.

Robert,
I had the chance to try the RIDE yesterday.
All I can say is this board is awesome and F2/ Peter Thommen has come
up with another winner.
It's quite fast (had two very fast guys I sail with chase me for about
2 miles to catch the RIDE yesterday on a 6.5 IQ+3 in about 15-20.
They got by, but just barely.
It jibes like a dream, even with a big old 12" weed fin (It must be
phenomenal with the stock 38 CM reverse profile, or maybe a slightly
swept pointer like the TA Teardrop).
First board I've been on in a long time that came right out of the
box, and all I had to do was adjust the footstraps, attach the rig,
and carry it to the water.
I was fully planing, in the straps 30 seconds and 10 yards later.
Things just got better, the board was fast and turny with the mast all
the way forward (it's maginally slower this way but stays absolutely
glued to the water) and just as fun, but a little faster with the
mast all the way back.
I'm not accustomed to racing my buds ten minutes after I get on a new
board and sail combo. but the RIDE/IQ+3 was so stable, so balanced I
sailed about half the time with one hand off the boom in 20 mph and
lite chop. And believe me the buds said later they worked very hard to
get by, and they were on gear they've had tweaked and tuned for a long
time.
If you are into flat water, B&J, or lite air waves, the RIDE would be
an excellent choice. Oh, I forgot to mention one of the most important
things about the RIDE. It jumps onto a plane quicker than anything
I've ever ridden, and planes thru and out of jibes effortlessly.
Try one, you will like it.
It's very lite, kinda like a Thommen edition for B/J and lite
wavesailing. I can't wait to try it with the footstraps moved in and
forward in a bunch more wind on a wavesail in some serious B&J
conditions.
I guess I could get enthusiastic and say "The RIDE rules". It just may
be the board that covers the widest range of conditons ever.


sailquik (Roger Jackson) US 3704 Ph. (301) 872-9459
F2 Thommen; North Sails/Rigs; True Ames/Rainbow Fins; SpeedTech.
Email= sail...@mail.ameritel.net

Steve Honey

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May 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/20/97
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sailquik (Roger Jackson) wrote:
>
> ralf.s...@stud.uni-hannover.de (Ralf Sigmund) wrote:
>
> >>Has anybody tested the new F2 Ride?
> >>I want to buy such a board. but don't know if it will be a
> >>Axxis 272 , or the Ride.
>

> If you are into flat water, B&J, or lite air waves, the RIDE would be
> an excellent choice. Oh, I forgot to mention one of the most important
> things about the RIDE. It jumps onto a plane quicker than anything
> I've ever ridden, and planes thru and out of jibes effortlessly.
> Try one, you will like it.


Roger,
Thanks for you post on the Ride. I was hoping to demo one this
sunday (W. Dennis) but something came up and I couldn't make it.

It sounds like a great replacement for my 7 year old Screamer.
I particularly like the part about being very quick to plane as
this will be my big board (I weigh 160lbs). I was wondering if
you have tried the Screamer II and/or the Pro-Tech 279 and how
it would compare to those boards. The Pro-Tech in particular is
suppose to be quite quick to plane. Also how well did the RIDE
go upwind (something my Screamer is not to good at)? What sail
range do they recommend for the board? I'd like to use a 7.0 and
a 5.4. A final question, you said the board is lite, do you
think it is strong enough to hold up for years of use (and abuse)?

Thanks,

Steven J. Honey
sjh...@wsicorp.com
Mistral Screamer, Wind+Surf 8'6", Sailworks + Ezzy sails

KarabaszJP

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May 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/20/97
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unimpressed


sailquik (Roger Jackson)

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May 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/21/97
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karab...@aol.com (KarabaszJP) wrote:

>unimpressed
>
Gee, My impressions were quite different.
What conditions did you sail the RIDE in, what size sail, how much
wind.
I was fairly wound on a 6.5 race sail, straps in the slalom position,
mast at the front was a little slow, but board stuck to the water like
glue over small chop, moved the mast back and it was one of the
fastest boards on the water. 150# sailor, wind speed 15-20mph, fairly
flat water, 6,5 IQ+3.
I'm looking forward to some serious B&J sailing on a smaller wave
sail, and then some onshore lite wind wave sailing on the RIDE.
Different sailors, different impressions, or what ????

Marc A. Lefebvre (US-775)

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May 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/22/97
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Hello...

Just curious, what market does the F2 Ride seek, opposed to the F2
Xantos? Do they have distinctly different uses, or is there overlap
with the Xantos line?

---
Marc Lefebvre (US-775)
Cape Cod Windsurfing Association
Gear: Berky/NeilPryde/Fiberspar/Finworks
Phone: (508)862-3282
Email: lefe...@ultranet.com
URL: http://www.ultranet.com/~lefebvre/
Motto: "Windsurfing is life, the rest is just details!"

Philip Mann

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May 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/23/97
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I had the chance to sail the ride at W. Dennis this last weekend and
liked it quite a bit. It planes very fast and goes well to windward. I
was sailing it with the total flow 6.2 and the 2X 5.5 and found it
well suted for these conditions. It turned very nice as well, making
quick snappy jibes and long "race " type jibes.
Its not the slashy slaom board that the 272 Axxis is but with earlier
plainning and the capability to handle a larger sail the 277 definatly
has a place in many peolple quiver. I also appreciated the extra
volume in some of the lulls.
If you want a "wavy" slalom board look more towards the 272 but if
planing and speed are your thing the 277 is great.
I didn't have achance to jump the 277 due to my port side preference
(in other words i cant jump on starboard) but with the wide tail im
sure it will love the air as well.
Im getting mine next week.
let me know if you are interested in more info on this board.


Philip
Inland Sea Windsurf Co.


Inland Sea Windsurf Co.
http://www.together.net/~inlandc
888-inlandc


Roar J. Alme

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May 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/26/97
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I have looked in the latest F2 catalogues and F2's web page to find
information about the F2 Ride board, but so far the only place I have
seen it mentioned has been on this newsgroup. Does anyone know where on
the web I can find some info. about this?

Thanks and regards,
Roar

sailquik (Roger Jackson)

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May 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/27/97
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"Marc A. Lefebvre (US-775)" <lefe...@ultranet.com> wrote:

>Hello...
>
> Just curious, what market does the F2 Ride seek, opposed to the F2
>Xantos? Do they have distinctly different uses, or is there overlap
>with the Xantos line?

Marc:
The RIDE is aimed a quite a bit different market than the Xanthos
line. More high performance, and the one board for everything market.
It's very lite weight, handles chop really well, goes upwind, (at
least with a 10" Weedspeed or a 10 3/8" TA Blade Weed) like a rocket
ship.
Sailed it again yesterday with 6.0 & 5.0 race sails and I was really
fun. Did a few little chop hops and the lite weight really made a
difference. When things got really rough I moved the mast forward
( the RIDE has the shortest mast track I've ever seen) and it stayed
glued even in nearly sub 5.0 conditions out back of WS Hatteras. One
of the guys from the shop was out on a 278 Screamer Concept and the
boards were very even, but the RIDE blew the Screamer away upwind
altho the Screamer had a 5.3 Zeta and I had a 5.0 Prisma on the RIDE
so this may have accounted for some of it. Other than that a very even
match. That is until you pick the two of them up on the beach. The
RIDE is way lighter.
I'm going for a "reef run" next time out.
Maybe a lite jaunt over to Ego Beach for some lite wind waves (if the
wind cooperates).
later


sailquik (Roger Jackson) US 3704 Ph. (301) 872-9459

US Sail Certified Level 1 WS Instructor


F2 Thommen; North Sails/Rigs; True Ames/Rainbow Fins;

Email= sail...@mail.ameritel.net

Philip Mann

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May 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/27/97
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Length 9'1"
weigth 16.5lbs
Vol 103 liters
width 22.6
recommended sail sizes. 7.2-4.5
Color.....yellow of course.
Retail $1349


Rode it liked it ordered it.

Philip
Inland sea Windsurf Co.
1-888-inlandc

Wolfgang Soergel

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May 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/28/97
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Marc A. Lefebvre (US-775) wrote:
>
> Hello...
>
> Just curious, what market does the F2 Ride seek, opposed to the F2
> Xantos? Do they have distinctly different uses, or is there overlap
> with the Xantos line?

If i'm not misstaken ther ride will fill the gap between
the Xanthos line (emphasis on early planning, ease of use,
easy jibing, smallest one is 285 cm / 118 l) and
the axxis line (highwind funboards, loose feeling,
largest one will be the 272 / 95 l, the 278 is replaced
by the ride 277).
So it will be a reasonably fast, easy to use, loose & turny
funboard, just as the Sunset Slalom used to be in it's
time. Probabely a sound concept (but i haven't ridden
one yet and probabely will never do so...)

Wolfgang
--
Wolfgang Soergel
Lehrstuhl fuer Nachrichtentechnik phone: ++49-9131-857781
Universitaet Erlangen-Nuernberg fax: ++49-9131-303840
Cauerstrasse 7 email:
wsoe...@nt.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de
D-91058 Erlangen, GERMANY
http://www.nt.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de/~wsoergel

NICK

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May 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/30/97
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The ride sounds like the right board for me but its pretty hard to
find one to try around here.What i really need to know is will it
plane significantly earlier ,than the fanatic pure Gecko 278 and
boards of that size,Boards mag in the UK have tested the new AHD as
the earliest planing 278,Any comments on this!!
NICK

sailquik (Roger Jackson)

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May 31, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/31/97
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ni...@tick.u-net.com (NICK) wrote:

NICK:

I'll try to find a 278 Gecko to test against the Ride and the 278
Screamer Concept, but I have the same problem in that there aren't any
AHD's around here to compare. I'll be back in Hatteras in 2 weeks and
I'll try to arrange this test and let you know.
You have no F2 dealers around where you sail?

Martyn Thompson

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Jun 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/2/97
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NICK wrote:
>
> The ride sounds like the right board for me but its pretty hard to
> find one to try around here.What i really need to know is will it
> plane significantly earlier ,than the fanatic pure Gecko 278 and
> boards of that size,Boards mag in the UK have tested the new AHD as
> the earliest planing 278,Any comments on this!!
> NICK
I tried the F2 Ride 277 last week in Cabarete - great board much more
responsive than the Axiss 278 or Gecko. Seemed to hold a line easier
through chop than most boards I sailed, both in a straight line &
through a gybe. Big problem with it though is the price, I'm not sure
its worth the extra Ł300 over the now X class Gecko.

Brian Weekes

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Jun 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/5/97
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Martyn Thompson <thom...@boat.bt.com> wrote in article
<339329...@boat.bt.com>...


> NICK wrote:
> >
> > The ride sounds like the right board for me but its pretty hard to
> > find one to try around here.What i really need to know is will it
> > plane significantly earlier ,than the fanatic pure Gecko 278 and
> > boards of that size,Boards mag in the UK have tested the new AHD as
> > the earliest planing 278,Any comments on this!!
> > NICK
>

I've been sailing mine for a couple of weeks and like it a lot. Its
probably lighter than the fanatic classx board Martyn mentioned. With a big
fin its better than my 290 Vivace and takes a modern 7m sail with ease.
Uphauling and tacking are also no problem. My first go on the 277Ride in
strongish winds (force 6-7+) was not fun though, too much unwanted air
unfortunately. Although it may be that I'm shit in a big blow anyway!

Definately worth demo-ing one, Nick. brilliant over any sort of chop due to
high nose rocker.

I notice that the Fanatic "mega" hawks have come down in price drastically
in the UK now from £1225 to £759, a very light carbon 275 board thats £100
cheaper than the 277 Ride (see page 42 of this months Boards mag).

Brian Weekes
Chalkwell Windsurfing Club
>

Robert

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Jun 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/13/97
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> The RIDE is aimed a quite a bit different market than the Xanthos
> line. More high performance, and the one board for everything market.
> It's very lite weight, handles chop really well, goes upwind, (at
> least with a 10" Weedspeed or a 10 3/8" TA Blade Weed) like a rocket
> ship.

Aloha,

Just a question about the fin.

Are there any standard rules for selecting the right fin for
such a board like the RIDE ?

My weight is about 85kg and the Ride ships with a 34cm North Shore fin.
Mostly I will use the board flat or choppy water (small wind waves; max.
1m)

Will be a 36cm or 38cm fin be the better choice for these conditions or
will the 34cm fin
do it right?

thanx for suggestions,
Robert

sailquik (Roger Jackson)

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Jun 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/16/97
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>Are there any standard rules for selecting the right fin for
>such a board like the RIDE ?
>
>My weight is about 85kg and the Ride ships with a 34cm North Shore fin.
>Mostly I will use the board flat or choppy water (small wind waves; max.
>1m)
>
>Will be a 36cm or 38cm fin be the better choice for these conditions or
>will the 34cm fin
>do it right?

Robert:

No, there are no standard rule. I'd love to try out the 34 cm North
Shore, but the weeds in the sounds at Cape Hatteras have been
absolutely terrible.
I think the stock fin might work well for you with a 6.0, but bigger
sails will need a bigger fin, and smaller sails require a smaller fin.
You will need to experiment some for the conditions you sail in.
If you have a quiver of fins that work for you already, they probably
will work just fine on the RIDE.


sailquik (Roger Jackson) US 3704 Ph. (301) 872-9459

US Sailing Cert. Level 1 WS Instructor

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