Long Race Boards
Orca2
Mistral Equippe II Race XR (90-92mod)
or F2 Lightning World Cup Race (90-92mod)
I'm especially innterested in the quality of the boards, when it comes to
how the mast is connected
to the board (may I use Neilpryde equipment). And how durable the board is
in the long run.
I've heared lot's of nice comments on the Mistral, but as it is made of
Carbon it might be to easy to damage
as I also lend out the board to novice sailors.
To use the Mistral in regattas I also has to increase the weight so the
Carbon benefit dont mean so much.
Some comments would be appreciated, before I take the "long" drive to take
the boards into closer look.
Glenn
Vaughan James Sanders
<no.jun...@online.no> writes
The Mistral XR was the lightest, most expensive and most fragile of the
versions of the Equip 12kg against 16kg of the One Design version, the
strongest.
As far as I can remember F2 didn't have a version to match the One
Design but probably matched the XR with a light weight version, the WC
Race is a pretty high carbon content fragile board, about 14kg I think.
Although both boards are inherently very strong they will damage very
easily if they are bashed.
All you have to do is, put the mast track connecting pin of either
board, on to your mast foot and you can use any rig you like. I have
never heard of either boards mast track being a problem. If you intend
to race, you should check out the 7.5 race board sails most
manufacturers produce for this type of board.
best of luck with your decision
Jamie
Jamie Sanders
Chalkwell Windsurfing Club
http://freespace.virgin.net/ken.rosier/cwc.htm
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Vaughan James Sanders
Glenn O Kolberg
price eq. 400USD
So this will most likely be my choice.
I'm also offered a Mistral Equippe II XR for 650USD but dont want to spend
the extra money
if the boards performs about the same.
Both boards are 90-92 models.
Glenn
Vaughan James Sanders <j_sa...@custom1.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Wayne Proctor
wrote:
>What would be the better long board between
>Mistral Equippe II Race XR (90-92mod)
>or F2 Lightning World Cup Race (90-92mod)
>
>I'm especially innterested in the quality of the boards, when it comes to
>how the mast is connected
>to the board (may I use Neilpryde equipment). And how durable the board is
>in the long run.
>I've heared lot's of nice comments on the Mistral, but as it is made of
>Carbon it might be to easy to damage
>as I also lend out the board to novice sailors.
>To use the Mistral in regattas I also has to increase the weight so the
>Carbon benefit dont mean so much.
>Some comments would be appreciated, before I take the "long" drive to take
>the boards into closer look.
>
>Glenn
>
Hi Glenn,
If you intend to loan it out to novices, you might consider looking
for the Mistral Superlight II. It is the same shape as the Equippe,
but stronger. It weighs a couple of pounds more, but you said that
wasn't as issue. Probably cheaper to repair if the boom goes into the
nose like mine did when I was learning.
Best Wishes
Wayne
Peter Baggaley
Or is that the going rate, thoughts anyone?
Peter
Glenn O Kolberg <glenn....@online.no> wrote in message
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> Thanks for your reply. i'm offered a F2 Lightning World Cup Race to a fair
> price eq. 400USD
> So this will most likely be my choice.
> I'm also offered a Mistral Equippe II XR for 650USD but dont want to spend
> the extra money
> if the boards performs about the same.
> Both boards are 90-92 models.
>
> Glenn
>
> Vaughan James Sanders <j_sa...@custom1.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:yH7lCCAP...@custom1.demon.co.uk...
> > In article <fvmp3.443$HB5....@news1.online.no>, Orca2
> > <no.jun...@online.no> writes
> > >What would be the better long board between
> > >Mistral Equippe II Race XR (90-92mod)
> > >or F2 Lightning World Cup Race (90-92mod)
> > >
> > >I'm especially innterested in the quality of the boards, when it comes
to
> > >how the mast is connected
> > >to the board (may I use Neilpryde equipment). And how durable the board
> is
> > >in the long run.
> > >I've heared lot's of nice comments on the Mistral, but as it is made of
> > >Carbon it might be to easy to damage
> > >as I also lend out the board to novice sailors.
> > >To use the Mistral in regattas I also has to increase the weight so the
> > >Carbon benefit dont mean so much.
> > >Some comments would be appreciated, before I take the "long" drive to
> take
> > >the boards into closer look.
> > >
> > >Glenn
> > >
> > >
Vaughan James Sanders
<colin-...@home.com> writes
>Hi Jamie
>
>I've seen your posts on rec.windsurfing- they have been most informative. I
>just started windsurfing a couple months ago and would like to get into
>racing. What are the options availible? I know there is the strict
>One-Design class but what are the other classes and rule restrictions- or is
>it just a matter of bringing your fastest gear and racing with everyone on
>different boards? Is there a website with a list of regattas? Any advice
>would be greatly appreciated. I'm 150 lbs and live in Toronto, Ont. Canada.
>
>Take care,
>Colin
>
Hi Colin
When I was out in Canada last winter (Quebec) there was a windsurfing
feature run daily on the TV (out door life channel I think) so you
should have no problem finding some good racing. The best place to start
is at a local club where the racing is not to serious. Here are some of
your options.
IMCO : one design, Mistral Olympic class, 1 sail 7.4 I think?
Race Board : long board (big Mistral Equippe's etc.) not sure how many
sails allowed but 7.5 is the max.
Formula Windsurf : any 1 board plus 2 sails? ( production only I think)
per regatta, for example a 72 AHD course racing board and 8.8 + 9.9 RX1,
or any thing of your choosing depending on the wind strengths that are
expected, There is talk of this being the Olympic class instead of IMCO.
Fun Board Racing : this might be restricted to recognised production
boards and sails but unrestricted in what you use. Or completely
unrestricted like the PWA (Professional Windsurfers Association)
national bodies running this type of racing might, like the BWA here in
the UK split the fleets up : Pro : Amateur : Restricted etc.
If you use the link to Boards mag on our web page, they have links to
all the UK national associations which have links to the World
associations, which may lead you back to the Canadian associations.
Anyway I will post this reply on the NG as well, I am sure that there is
someone who will tell you all you need to know about the Toronto race
scene.
all the best
ps. I nearly forgot, when you get really good you can always take up
Speedsailing :-))
Marcus Hooper
In Toronto the best (?) place to check out would be the Toronto Windsurfing
Club <http://reality.sgi.com/csp/twc/index.html>. They are located in the
outer harbour and hold club races every Wednesday.
For a broader range, the Ontario Sailing Association has race listings at
<http://www.sailon.org/d_9_frame.htm>.
Since most of the racing in Ontario is blesses with winds from 3-15 knots,
you are usually limited to Raceboard or IMCO classes. If the wind is above
15 knots, they may try to scramble and get some slalom heats off.
IMCO (International Mistral Class Organisation) is based on the Mistral One
Design with a 7.4 sail, and is a pretty cheap way to get started (if you
don't have a longboard or sail yet!).
Raceboard includes any board with a daggerboard (they may have tighter
requirements, but I no longer have a rule book) and a max. 7.4 sail for
people < 190 and 8.5 for those over.
If you have any more questions, I'd be happy to help, but I also think that
John Brija (Windsport Magazine) and Stuart Hall (TWC) are lurking on this
newsgroup also...
ttyl
-marcus
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WINDSUMIKE
The Equippe is quite delicate the F2 is bomb proof, I have an F2 (for 4 years)
an not managed to mark it. I also have a Mega Cat which is even more delicate
than the Mistral!
Mike K 445
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> Doesn't that seem like a lot of cash for a 7 to 9 year old board?
> Or is that the going rate, thoughts anyone?
That certainly is. One mail order place is having a closeout on brand
new ones for about $950. I think it was water-play in FL but I'm not
sure.
People can ask what they want. About 2 months ago there was the guy
whose neighbor was going to sell him some truly archaic crap for $400.
Ben
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sailquik (Roger Jackson)
wrote:
>Doesn't that seem like a lot of cash for a 7 to 9 year old board?
>Or is that the going rate, thoughts anyone?
>
Peter:
The F2 Lightning Race Carbon is still a very competitive board in longboard
racing.
The World Cup Edition is even rarer and just as fast.
If you just want to knock around on a big beginner board, the heavier F2
Lightning is a better choice. More durable, less complicated, and comes with a
recreational type plastic centeboard.
The Lightning Race comes with a huge all carbon centerboard which (in certain
year models) fits into a really stout very easy to use, removable CB cassette.
I paid $400 USD for the Carbon version, with the carbon CB a couple of years
ago, after searching for months for one of them.
If you want to race competitively, then the price may be higher due to the board
having superior components, lighter weight, and being overall faster as a
result.
I also have the new F2 380 Race, and it's as fragile as the Mistral/Fanatic/AHD
raceboards, but it's also light and competitive with these other boards.
Lightweight/ race ready gear will always be more expensive, in WS just like most
other sports.
later
sailquik (Roger Jackson) US 7011
Cert. WS Instructor (Lvl 1)
F2/MPB/Sailworks/Tectonics/True Ames/Chinook/Kokatat/DaKine
Phones: So. MD (301)872-9459; Avon, NC (252) 995-3204
Paulr353
the F2 is very much more susceptible to impact damage. However for heavy weight
sailors the f2 has the advantage with higher volume and has advantage on the
run/broad reach - but in windy conditions f5 up then the control element is
more important and equipe better. - hope this helps - Paul